What are some of the biggest scams in the food industry?

>>8420018
That might be for the plastic instead, ASSUMING it's actual, real, botulism-with (which is normal and why not to give to infants) honey

>The year of our Lord 2017
>STILL don't know the difference between "best before/sell by" and "expiry date"

>>8420021
Does this sentence make sense to anyone?

>>8420028
I think he's saying the plastic will expire before the honey does, so long as it is real, not artificial honey and carries botulism, which, by the way, is why you don't give honey to babies.

>>8420027
>implying such a thing as 'best before' applies to an essentially immortal substance like honey

Unless the packaging is sub-standard, it will literally remain unchanged for centuries.

>>8420049
90% of the time in any food product these dates are just to get you to throw it away so you can buy more
Obviously honey is just HFCS, and will therefore last a long fucking time but people just assume old things are bad so if you put a date on it they will throw it out and buy more

>>8420049
The standard packaging still leaches off-flavors into the food over time, smart guy

>>8420018

>What are some of the biggest scams in the food industry?

Diet soda
Sugar free candy
Eating Subway makes you lose weight
Kale
Toaster Strudel are better than pop-tarts

>>8420059
But kale is actually good for you..

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>>8420051
>Obviously honey is just HFCS

>>8420049
>essentially immortal substance like honey

You're a very silly person. Honey absorbs moisture from the air and eventually spoils due to this. Honey in a container like a vacuum-sealed jar will probably keep indefinitely until opened; honey is a shitty plastic container will probably eventually expire, unopened, due to slowly leaching moisture through the seals.

>>8420018
The FDA requires a best buy/sell by date on all food products sold in stores.

Even if the product itself will never "expire" this is required by law.

As a result many companies just use the date of 1-2 years after date of manufacture.

>>8420065
Honey is pretty much HFCS, no microbes will grow in these concentrated sugar solutions because there isn't enough water

>>8420060

It is but the way people eat it is not

Kale smoothie is the only way to eat kale, that way I won't have that shitty plant taste in my mouth

>>8420069
do you.. know where honey comes from?

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>>8420059
>Toaster Strudel are better than pop-tarts is a scam

How does it feel, being objectively and morally wrong?

>>8420077
What are you trying to imply?

>>8420078

>>Toaster Strudel are better than pop-tarts is a scam

Exactly

Toaster Strudels are not better than pop-tarts

Salsa is grossly overpriced in my opinion. There is no way some tomato paste mixed with spices and meme vegetables could possibly cost that much

>>8420116
Its crazy how expensive the higher quality salsas are

>>8420116

....just like any other premade food, Anon. You're paying the dumb tax if you don't make it yourself.

>>8420069
>Honey = HFCS

Wow, bees have started using the glucose isomerases process to convert glucose from corn starch into fructose. Better watch those crafty devils, I think they might become a bigger threat than illegal aliens.

>>8420142
lol, the process is slightly different, but chemically and therefore nutritiously they are very similar

>>8420018
Fettuccine Alfredo at restaurants.

90 cents of materials and they have the nerve to charge you 15 bucks for it.

>>8420116
>tomato paste

what the fuck kind of salsa are you making

>>8420149
>chemically and therefore nutritiously they are very similar
>Hydrogen peroxide & water are very close chemically so they're both good to drink

Ohio pls

>>8420330
thats not what chemically similar means. HFCS and honey are primarily made up of the same chemical compound in very similar ratios, not simply made of chemicals formed from similar atoms as you are implying
Not sure if you are trying to be facetious or are just dumb

>>8420149
I think what he means is that HFCS is corn syrup and comes from corn, and honey does not come from corn. yes they're similar in composition because honey is mostly fructose, but it's a bit misleading to call it "pretty much HFCS" as the name HFCS denotes the origin of the fructose. it'd be more accurate to just say honey is pretty much just fructose.

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>>8420125

>What is opportunity cost

Unless what you make at home is better for you and/or it tastes better, you are actually losing time, money and energy by making your own food.

>>8420341
Except that my entire point is that the origin doesn't matter, only the empirical qualities of the substance when it comes to chemicals and their effects on humans
I was mostly just trying to draw attention to how similar honey and HFCS are and contrast that with how wildly different society's attitude toward these things is

>>8420339
>HFCS and honey are primarily made up of the same chemical compound in very similar ratios

I was being lazy. There are plenty of isomers which are entirely different compounds.

>>8420348
>how wildly different society's attitude toward [honey & HFCS] is

That's because one is produced through hard work and honest labor, and the other is produced through theft, lobbying and government subsidies.

>>8420085
Wrong

>>8420369
>That's because one is produced through hard work and honest labor,
How is exploiting innocent animals honest labor?
I'm fully against the tax policies that support HFCS, but its a fucking absurd assertion to claim that such policies are behind HFCS's bad PR

>>8420364
Still, when people use the term "chemically similar" they are talking about their chemical properties, not superficial similarities

>>8420404
No one is forcing the bees to make honey; they make it whether you eat it or not.

>>8420408
Yeah, and then you fucking steal it from them

>>8420413
It's a harsh universe. They still made it through honest labor.

>>8420427
Stealing from animals is not any more or less honest than stealing from taxpayers

>>8420431
The bees aren't stealing from anyone. Their labor is honest. The Ohio corn grower is not.

>>8420441
um, yeah, you are stealing from the bees

>>8420447
And? That's between me and the bees.

>>8420431
no one will round up the bees and shoot them if they refuse to provide honey

Most Italian Olive Oil is fake

>>8420046

I get it now, though shit, your sentence, which isn't any better, is actually pretty bad too, especially when you consider that, just so you know, a million fucking commas makes you sound like a retarded william shatner.

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>>8420483
You don't know me.

parmesan cheese is mostly wood shavings

>>8420116
You probably make easy mac and consider that cooking.

Is it hard to be this ignorant?

>>8420285
Are you eating at Olive Garden?

>>8420051
>HFCS,
Complete fucking moron. You probably give advice here too.

>>8420581
please elaborate on how you think that statement is incorrect

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1. Any kind of 'crab' meat sold in mid-range restaurants/food-courts: it's just a processed composite of left over fish parts

2. Wasabi: the green stuff you get with your sushi is horseradish and food colouring. Real wasabi (pictured), besides having numerous health benefits, is noticeably more spicy and flavorsome.

>>8420018
Salt is millions of years old.

>>8420116
>BUYING PREMIXED SALSA
>NOT BUYING INGREDIENTS TO MAKE YOUR OWN

>>8420715
horseradish is better than actual wasabi though

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>>8420729
.....

sugar is the biggest scam of all time

>>8420072
I like kale in certain soups and salads. Smoothies with kale are nasty.

>>8420431
Barry the bee get out

>>8420049
Honey crystalizes and turns murky over time if not sealed perfectly. Have you even ever owned honey?

I put an opened glass of honey in my fridge! Am I crazy?

>>8420285
Cheese and cream and stuff isn't actually all that cheap yknow.

>>8421158
Literally all you need to do is put the honey in the microwave with a mug of water for 60 seconds to get the honey back to a non-crystalline state

>>8420018
Bottled water

Soft drinks at restaurants and especially movie theaters

Fucking water sugar and a little co2 in a paper cup, costs less than 10 cents but they fucking charge you $3 for it. You get free refills when they're nice and they still make a huge profit

>>8420116
THERES NO TOMATO PASTE IN SALSA

>>8421174
I've done this and I have been satisfied with the results

Does anybody else think that honey is the GOAT pancake topping?

>>8420077
high fructose corbiculate syrup

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>>8420018
I worked at a grocery store and I can tell you right now 90% of food items that don't have Best Buy labels don't get sold.

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>>8420059
>Eating Subway makes you lose weight

No food "makes" you lose weight but it is healthy if you get 9 grain bread and don't drench the thing in mayonnaise

>>8420116
My homemade salsa sucks because the flavors don't blend and it comes out too bland and "fresh"
I just buy salsa by the pint from my favorite local Mexican restaurant

>>8420059
Diet soda has a nice aftertaste. It's like drinking cola flavored plastic.

>>8420454
You gonna get stung (8>

>>8420049
Factually incorrect.

>expiry date on salt

>>8420077
bees shit it out

>>8422666
Actually they puke it out but close

>>8421180
Honey is the GOAT roast chicken glaze, pancakes are too sweet for honey

>>8420018
Kosher salt. If someone recommends you use kosher salt for a recipe, that's a license to disregard anything they say.

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Anything with this. This is an imaginary marketing standard, as food meeting this standard provides absolutely no additional benefits at all from any other food. However, they do get to sell this crap at inflated prices.

>>8423073
what's wrong with kosher salt?

>>8420876
>>8420072
>>8420060
My mom makes this awesome kale salad with just kale, nice parmesan cheese and toasted pine nuts with a really awesome lemony oil based dressing.

Tastes awesome and really healthy.

>>8423145
bait

>>8423086
>food meeting this standard provides absolutely no additional benefits at all from any other food.

Except multiple studies over decades showing that switching from conventional produce to organic will significantly lower the amount of pesticides found in your body.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1367841/
>Organic Diets Significantly Lower Children’s Dietary Exposure to Organophosphorus Pesticides
>We conclude that organic diets provide a protective mechanism against OP pesticide exposure in young children whose diets regularly consist of fresh fruits and vegetables, fruit juices, and wheat-containing items. Such protection is dramatic and immediate. This is particularly true for certain OP pesticides, such as chlorpyrifos and malathion, as measured in this study, and is probably true for other OP pesticides such as azinphosmethyl, dimethoate, and acephate, which are registered only for agricultural production.

>>8423148
what is baity about that you god damn mongoloid

>>8423165
>memekale, par-meme-san cheese, and toasted meme nuts
>with a le-meme-y oil based dressing
>healthy
just stop

>>8421310
We also store the produce next to the wet waste compactor.
We put all the produce, meat and seafood in that.
And it rots.
Ah boy does it rot, it fumigates the whole stockroom.
You are eating that.

>>8423177
yeah you're right basic flavour pairings & ingredients are memes, u sure got me

>>8421308
Bioscientific kek

>>8423186
those particular flavor pairing and ingredients are memes, tell your mom to get some fucking taste.

t. le cordon blue graduate

>>8423177
>>8423192
Not him but why is it you shitpost here? Is it because you're banned from /v/ and /ck/ is the first board on Clover? Is it because a chef touched you in your no-no place? We really need to know.

>>8423086
Oh brilliant! And just how many organic farmers have you talked to? How many farms have you visited? None.

No petroleum based or manufactured fertilizers or herbicides are permitted. Yes, Pyrethrin broad spectrum pesticides are permited, but no reputable organic grower routinely uses them. It defeats the whole purpose. We use other methods like crop rotation, proper disposal of plant residue, developing environments that attract predator insects and other animals, insecticidal soaps, and insectcidal specific biological agents like BTk.

I've grown organic on 1/2 acre for the last 5 years and only once had to use Pyrethrin on a small patch of legumes. Stop following the bullshit Alex Jones or Breitbart tells you.

>>8423307
Fuck off hippie, organic food holds 0 benefits over food grown with pesticides and GMOs. Deal with it.

>>8420871
Sugar is basically poison.

>>8420715
>1. Any kind of 'crab' meat sold in mid-range restaurants/food-courts: it's just a processed composite of left over fish parts
Dang I had no idea about this.

>>8420343
wow you must have gunned your first year microeconomics classes you fucking piece of shit

So red pill me. How long after the "best by" date can I wait?

>>8420500
people that believe shit like this is how trump got elected

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>>8423073

ive been on 4 chan for 9 years and this is the dumbest thing I've ever fucking read here.

>>8420018
Have you actually ever bought honey close to the expiration date? The plastic jars crumble if you bend them at all, and dropping them 10cm will make them splash honey everywhere. Well, as far as honey splashes, really.

>>8424256
>on 4chan
>doesnt support trump
reddit is that way friendo

>>8420285
Any pasta at a restaurant is a rip off

>>8424238
Varies by food type. As simple as it sounds, just judge by taste. You're not going to poison yourself or anything.

>>8423086
fuck off monsanto

>>8420018

If you want your honey to last longer and not go into botulism mode... make mead out of it.

>>8424304
>he thinks hes paying for the food
You're not. You're paying for the time, utensils and competence of cooking it. And renting a seat in a nice room.
If you want cheap food you can cook it yourself.

>>8421308
you are too educated to be on this website

>>8421166

It is when you buy a 100lbs of it at a time.

>>8421308
nice

>>8420018
I was always mad when my parents threw out food that was perfectly fine

>>8420060
>grandma made roasted kale chips
>didn't hear of the kale meme, just tried some
>they're actually pretty good

>>8420500
how the fuck do I get mozzarella for pizza?
I can only find shredded stuff

>>8420715
that imitation crab stuff is decent though

>>8423324
>pesticides
kind of worrisome desu
>GMO
literally nothing wrong with them
dogs are GMO
corn is GMO
everything humans cultivate is GMO

>>8423324
They did studies like this for peeled potatoes and carrots and found no difference between organic and other stuff. The skin is what contains all the actual nutrients, though. I wouldn't be surprised if they have similar stuff going on in studies involving other organic produce.

>>8420018
Packages being far bigger than their content.

>>8424258
>been on 4chan for 9 years
>still don't know how to save an image file

>>8423153
Amazing how people blame vaccines for autism when there's so many other more likely suspects like pesticides, herbicides, food dyes/artifical flavorings/preservatives.

>>8420018
>low fat

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>>8420051
>HFCS

Ha.

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>expiry date on salt
i get it that all foods for sale need an expiry date but this is just retarded

Red Velvet anything

It's fucking chocolate cake dyed red but it's always more expensive than the regular chocolate cake.

>>8420364
1. water and hydrogen peroxide are not isomers, they are radically different, chemically.

2. HFCS is water, fructose, and glucose. Honey is water, fructose, and glucose. And trace amounts of other shit. We're not even talking different isomers, just different percentages.

HFCS is about 55% fructose, 45% glucose.

Honey is about 50% fructose, 40% glucose, and 10% maltose.

If they changed the name to High Fructose Bee Syrup people would be freaking out, saying they could taste the difference, and claim it was giving them tumors.

>>8425833
Fructose level varies depending on the pollen sources. Typical samples of wildflower honey indicate fructose levels in the upper 30%, not 50%. So no, the sugar composition of honey is not the same as HFCS. Analysis of HFCS samples indicate a small percentage of byproducts from the industrial conversion of cornstarch glucose to fructose, as well.

All in all, wildflower honey is a much better choice for a sweetener than the government welfare subsidized HFCS. But the fact is, if you don't ingest amerifat mass produced and processed garbage that pretends to be food and drink, you needn't ever come in contact with HFCS. That's how sensible people avoid it. Coincidentally, they tend to be /fit/ter and don't suffer from 'beetus.

>>8425888
>in the upper 30%, not 50%

That's only if you include water in the calculations, dipshit.

>>8421316
Sometimes bread that sounds healthier really isn't, Jimmy John's 7 grain bread has way more fiber than their french bread loaf but it also has way more fat, carbohydrates, and sodium. I wouldn't be surprised if Subway's was that way as well. It's also probably not real whole grain, "multi-grain" type products usually aren't.

>>8420018
Whenever you ask a worker in a grocery store to "check the back" even though they just told you that the particular item is sold out, they just go out, look at their phone for 2 minutes. There is no "back" anymore. Almost everything is just-in-time.

supermarket spices are, by far, the biggest scam.
Totally overpriced.

Spices should be cheap, because they have a long shelf life. I buy spices in bulk online.

>>8426338

My grocery store has basically every spice there is for a dollar a piece.

>>8425792
What if the boxing goes bad? Plastic and paper goes bad eventually, unless you buy your salt in glass jars.

>>8420404
The bees make the honey and a portion is taken as rent for the safe location of the hive.

>>8424429
I had the opposite problem with my step-dad.
Man had canned goods that were literally over thirty years old, it was weird.

shit thread

>>8426676
fuck you.

>>8420431
You're right. Those bees should be paid fairly with an honest wage for their work, so they can spend it on such bee essentials as ????

You fucking clown.

>>8426730
no fuck you. i came into this thread expecting some good examples on topic. of course you faggots argue about honey and hfcs for 130 replies

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>>8424456
>dogs are GMO
>crossbreeding is the same as direct gene splicing

that's like saying horses are cars

>>8428897
>genetically modified organism means gene spliced
nope, and besides it's been proven literally thousands of times that GMOs are better for both the end consumer and the producers

>>8428904
i'm not here to argue the health or danger of GMO, i'm just here to tell you you're literally taking the semantics of "GMO" to their absolute and most meaningless extreme because you're a moron

>>8428907
>the definition is semantics
hah, try this one on for size, definition 2.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally

>>8428912
alright i'm mad

>>8420018
Diet X.

>>8420116
Mexico here.
For how much salsa goes in the US?

>>8420085
Fucking imagine thinking pop-thots can even come close to the quality embedded in every flash frozen pack of Pillsbury™ Toaster Strudel™. If you are unenlightened simply set your conventional toaster oven to 4 and let the magic take place. The result will be a crisp, browned, delicious strudel. BUT HOLD ON, the journey is not over yet brother, the placement of the icing is the critical factor; any run-off will ruin your strudel. Like the application of thermal paste the icing must be distributed very carefully, i myself am a supporter of the X pattern as it ensures maximum coverage. If you take note of my post you will enjoy a tasty, healthy, German breakfast. But don't be fooled, there are many shit flavors to sway you from the true path, let wildberry be your anchor.

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>>8429227
Pic related is my favorite type of salsa. People suggest I buy bulk restaurant salsa but it simply isn't the same. The restaurant salsa is a sloppy mess whereas the Chi-Chi's salsa is more refined and chunky. These cost around $2.50 each which is terrible considering a bottle only lasts me about 3 meals

>>8420060

Spinach is better for you

>>8420343
why do people like you come to the cooking board? It's like browsing /p/ and saying "You stupid shits should just google pictures instead of taking them. It's easier"

>>8423073
i-is this bait?

>>8420715
I've always wanted to try genuine wasabi, but from what I understand the only place you can really get a hold of it is a small town in japan.

>>8429629
http://www.wasabia.com/wasabi-order.php

>>8423513
Fish cake, it's great. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surimi

The difference between crab meat and surimi crab sticks is completely obvious, you're not getting duped by sneaks.

>>8424877
One thing I've noticed recently is "easy portion" packs that are divided into sections, but they put the cardboard label over the divider so it looks like one large container. You get some tiny amount of product either side of it and a giant fuck off gap in the middle.

>>8428148
I agree with you anon

>>8421175
>bottled water
Why?

>>8421318
Roast your stuff on a grill. It will cook down and get rid of the water in them.

1. Throw some jalapenos, garlic, and tomatillos on a flat grill pan. Cook the tomatillos down until they are brown all over. Don't burn the garlic, and roast the jalapenos.
2. Throw this into the blender with some chicken stock. And a 1/4 onion and fresh chopped cilantro. Black pepper, and a dash of salt.
3. Blend
4. Enjoy this yummy salsa. I use this as a base for Chile verde.

Source: I'm a mexican

>>8432112
Do you tend to make big batches of the stuff? Whenever I cook Mexican food it takes me twenty minutes just preparing the sides, so that seems like a pain in the ass if you're doing it every day.

>>8431985
because it's fucking tap water anyway

>>8432269
just no. there's places where you can't drink the tap water because it's so shit

>>8432276
If you live in Haiti. In the US (which is one of the largest consumers of bottled water in the world), all public water is regulated and tested multiple times daily.

https://www.banthebottle.net/bottled-water-facts/

>>8432347
tell that to the people who can literally set their tap water on fire because of fracking

>>8420715
>1. Any kind of 'crab' meat sold in mid-range restaurants/food-courts: it's just a processed composite of left over fish parts
You mean surimi? What kind of shitty place do you live in to be sold surimi under the name "crab meat" and not "imitation/fake crab"?

>>8423165
It's a recipe with ingredients, not a fast food item. This is /ck/ damn it!

>>8429629
It's grown in USA and/or Canada, and in the UK. Maybe elsewhere. (Out of Asia I mean.)
Still on my list of things to try.

>>8432347
Also, some cities have to use so many chemicals to make it safe, no one, and I mean no one, can drink it unfiltered without gagging.

t. lived in one of those cities.

Beer. It tastes like shit and unlike most shitty tasting things doesn't even have any health benefits.

>>8432347
What is Flint, Michigan

>>8433252
Beer isn't for taste or your health.

>>8432448
now super tempted to try growing wasabi in a hydro/aquaponics setup.

>>8433968
If I wanted to drink alcohol I don't see the point in only getting ~7% by volume out of a nasty drink.

t. beer hater

"Everything in moderation."

I know that's controversial, but most people are fucking idiots and have no idea what "moderation" is. Okay, maybe that's a bit harsh, but the eating part of the human brain isn't much different to that of a bear's, so vague phrases like "everything in moderation" are about as helpful as trying to spit on a China Syndrome.

>>8433252

I like beer, but I do hate pretentious alcohol.

I don't give a shit what kind of wood your whisky was aged in, moron. I prefer vodka anyway.

>>8424350
pasta neither takes much time nor skill to cook though

water injected into most/all the meat in the supermarket.
Some of the butchers stuff he trucks in from Poland also water injected.
Scummy.
Scammy there is real way to know if you are not eating halal/kosher meat in UK either.

>>8420142
Don't worry they're going extinct

>>8435028
Enjoy paying $20.00/apple if either one of those crafty devils become extinct in the US.

>>8420715
>it's just a processed composite of left over fish parts

its made from a specific fish, not random fish parts
unless you are eating out of a food truck 'restaurant'

>>8435044
Bees going extinct is the biggest meme in conerservatiosn. There are over 600 MILLION honeybees in the American west coast ALONE. Bees could easily pollenate every plant in the entire world 10 times over inside 5 hours if they wanted. The issue isn't bees dying, it is a poor work ethic held by modern bees, created by modern beekeeping techniques that encourage lazy sit at home bees. Bees are the issue and people defend them with this pathetic 'muh poor bees' story. The worst part is that bees are an intelligent species - they KNOW humanity needs them and are deliberarly not working.

>>8435061
Sounds exactly like a parody of the argument against illegal aliens. Good job.

>>8420059
>tfw prefer Coke Zero to coke
desu, and purely anecdotal, but back when I switched from Coke to Coke Zero, and changed nothing else in my diet, I lost 15 lbs over a few months. Granted, I was never obese, just a little overweight. I also eat fairly well and don't sit on my ass at work. Pop is just empty calories; while no pop is definitely better, cutting those calories out makes a difference.

>>8420323
came to post this
and how much is this guy paying?
about $2 a jar from my grocer

>>8423073
what a terrible opinion

>>8435061
don't be such and insectophobe jeez

>>8423086
glyphosate is so healthy 4 u

>>8420051
>HFCS
Probably is where you come from, fuckwit.

>>8429540
kidney stones tho

>>8435061
>There are over 600 MILLION honeybees in the American west coast ALONE. Bees could easily pollenate every plant in the entire world 10 times over inside 5 hours if they wanted.
source?

>>8424282
>On 4chan
>Not against that asshole
/r/trump is that way friendo

>>8421174
why do u need a mug of water.

>>8435061
Dumbest thing i've read on this site today

>>8420491
He used them correctly you fucking, faggot.

>>8436224
putting a mug of water in the microwave when reheating things like pizza stops them from drying out. try it, works really well

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>>8420046
>He refuses to use semi-colons

>>8434838
Doesn't matter, it's standardization
>"He thinks he's paying for the food"
>At all
[spoiler]in most cases[/spoiler]

>>8420018
The FDA MAKES EVERYTHING HAVE A DATE FOR WHEN FOOD EXPIRES SPICES AND DRY PASTA DO NOT EXPIRE

>>8437394
packaging such as plastics can degrade and have an impact on the food it is containing

>>8435059
>"Surimi is made of different kinds of fish, which are ground together into a paste."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/14/imitation-crab-meat-what-is-it_n_6464560.html

>>8429540

Spinach is one of the few green things that tastes absolutely delicious. Broccoli too.

>>8439527
>Spinach
>absolutely delicious
nah, only raw. cooked it's debatable, but most people don't like it that way
Broccoli is almost the exact opposite, awful raw but cooked very awesome in many dishes

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>putting FAT FREE! on candy

>>8429503
>16floz
>lasts three meals
>~5floz/meal
Ease up, Paco.

>>8420500
Not if you buy real Parmigiano-Reggiano.

>>8426338
>I buy spices in bulk online.
Where? I've bought some on eBay, but the shipping costs end up eating into the savings.

>>8432347
>https://www.banthebottle.net/bottled-water-facts/

>The recommended eight glasses of water a day, at U.S. tap rates equals about $.49 per year; that same amount of bottled water is about $1,400.
Bullshit.

The whole 8 glasses of water a day shit is misleading. Many doctors have said it's 8x8, meaning 8 servings of 8 ounces. Others say it is half your body weight in ounces.

If we are to assume that it is the standard 8x8, you would be consuming 64 ounces of water from a bottle per day. That comes out to 23360 ounces per year. A standard water bottle where I am from holds 16.9oz. 23360 divided by 16.9 is 1382. Most people buy bottled water by the case, and most cases have 24 bottles in them. 1382 divided by 24 is 57. Each case of water costs, at a high estimate, around 8 dollars. 57 cases of water a year at 8 dollars each is 456 dollars.

Fuck your bullshit source

>>8439858
>not having artesian well water pumped directly to your house from the source.

You poor fucking soul.

>>8420508
*tips sombrero

>>8420018
>expire dates
FTFY

>>8420116
premade salsa is pretty bad. make fresh salsa like
>>8421318
although he needs to add a tiny bit of olive oil to his salsa recipe and let it sit for a little bit - lets the non-water soluble flavor compounds in the ingredients mix together.

>>8429503
but brother, chichis is a restraunt.

>>8420590
Because Honey is made by bees, not with corn like high fructose corn syrup is, you mong.

>>8420722
my country doesn't have good quality tomatoes

>>8424350
From the moment you begin to get ready to leave, to the time you are back home and settled in, you will have always used more time that if you had cooked and washed for yourself. So there is no time benefit there. Pasta does not require any particular level of competence. You aren't getting anything special with pasta in a restaurant.

>but muh atmospheres

Realize that you have the ability to make your home into a far better atmosphere, tailored specifically to your desire. Fuck dining out.

>>8420051
>Obviously honey is just HFCS
lol no

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>>8420491
>when you consider that, just so you know, a million fucking commas makes you sound like a retarded william shatner.

>>8420069
>Honey is pretty much HFCS, no microbes will grow in these concentrated sugar solutions because there isn't enough water
This isn't true. Osmophilic microorganisms can grow on low water activity substrates, for example Wallemia species are commonly found on chocolate, candy, salted fish, etc.

Honey has a water activity (aw) of around 0.6; fungi like Saccharomyces rouxii and Xeromyces bisporus can grow around this aw.

The low water activity of sugary substrates greatly reduces the number of fungi capable of colonization, but the fact is honey further inhibits moulds due to the presence of fungistatic and fungicidal compounds.

To say honey = HFCS is incorrect. Honey is a complex heterogeneous blend of chemicals originating from the pollen source and the bees.

>>8420077
No one actually knows where honey cones from fucktard

>>8441632
you fucking idiot everyone knows honey combs from that furry kooshball thing

>>8420491
Shut the fuck up you unbelievable cunt.

>>8420046
Interesting comma usage.

>>8424452
lol where do you live?

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high fructose corbiculate syrup
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>>8424282
>falling for a con artist
Hope you enjoy paying for the wall, my russian cock-sucking friend

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>>8435061
Is this the fucking plot of Bee Movie?