Coffee and Espresso

I've been pulling shots of a Kenya Nyeri from Sump. Using Strietman CT1 espresso machine and LyW EG-1 grinder.

Using a 15g in the basket, but I've been playing around with the output a bit. 20g out puts me around 18.25% extraction yield, and a rather sweet and fruity shot. Down to 18g puts me around 17% extraction and more of an intense fruity acidity, still sweet but not as much as the 20g shot. Would rate the 18g higher to my tastes overall. But the Kenya does well basically any way I've tried it so far.

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quickmill 810
with passalacqua e.s.e.

>>8323683
Huh?

10 oz. fair trade ethiopian light roast
5 cups water
18 hours in oxo cold brew station
paper + mesh filtration
poured over ice
add coconut milk creamer
wa la

why do people drink espresso? it tastes bad

dirty mr coffee machine
water filter coffee in
wait a couple of minutes
drink shit coffee

>>8323708
I assume you're talking about the extraction yield stuff, it's just a value derived from the tds% of the coffee as measured with a refractometer and the input/output mass.

TDS is total dissolved solids mass as a percent of espresso mass. Extraction yield is the mass of coffee grounds that ends up dissolved in the coffee, by percentage of coffee grounds mass.

>>8323722
Good espresso is absolutely delicious. If you get it from some random shop it's almost certainly bad espresso.

>>8323838
I've had "good" espresso before. I've been to sump many times. it all sucks

>>8323841
I don't believe you. Meet me there for lunch sometime and I'll buy you your drink of choice. Hell, if you don't like coffee I'll buy ya lunch tomorrow somewhere in the city if you're actually here.

I'd have believed if you said basically any other fancy coffee place, but this is too much of a location coincidence for a random inflammatory comment.

>>8323849
ok i've been to blueprint, comet, sump a bunch of times. what do you want.. i don't live in st. louis anymore anyway

Always just made filter coffee or cafetiere before, just recently got a second hand espresso machine, because I went to Portugal on holiday and they had fucking amazing espresso and long blacks. Im addicted to crema now.

Got a second hand, and probably shitty by you guys standards, Gaggia Cubika. It seems to work fine and it pulls a great espresso. I have been playing around with 15-18 grams and different tamping pressure, with a few rocky starts.

I started off just using Lavazza red espresso pre ground coffee because I dont have time to get good beans during the week. It was still nice but extracted too quick even if I basically stood on the tamper. At the weekend I got some beans from a local roaster and holy shit it is good. I usually make long black with 1.5/1 water/espresso

>>8323851
Well I'll be damned, I'd have bet you were just trollin.

>>8323855
Always tamp until the coffee is fully compressed, don't worry about varying tamp pressure. Ideally you'd be changing grind setting, but since you don't have that focus on dose (amount of coffee on portafilter) instead.

Is it bad that my espresso machine leaks when pulling a shot? As in, some drips of water squeeze past the sides of the portafilter and fall into the drip tray. It's only maybe 20 drops of water per shot pulled. And I do attach the portafilter fairly tightly.

I can get it to not leak by just grinding coarser or tamping less, but then it takes me only 20 seconds or less to finish the shot. I usually shoot for 25-30 seconds for best flavor (13.5 g ground coffee in, 40 g espresso out) but that always leads to some leaking.

Please don't include espresso in coffee threads. Espresso is the chicken tendies in the coffee world.

I've never had espresso and I don't feel like pouring tons of sugar and milk in my coffee to make a drinkable cup.

>>8323668
>Drinking black coffee
shgydggy

>>8324533
That's why you drink it straight.

As someone who loves "coffee" (i.e. the type of shit starbucks serve with the syrups), would you advise getting one of those Tassimo/Nespresso machines?

No hate, I just like what I like.

I'm too shit to brew my own coffee beans properly.

>>8323683
>Strietman CT1 espresso machine
>$1300
anon can I try that coffee?

>>8325282
>>8323683
NOT TO MENTION THE GRINDER ALONE COSTS $3K

WHAT THE FUCK

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>>8324511
>>8324511
>>8324511

>>8325282
>>8325284
If you're near me I'd be more than happy to pull you a shot.

It's a big hobby for me, not just something to drink. Same goes for the roasting.

A setup like mine, or any home espresso setup, makes no sense at all to someone who just wants good tasting caffeine bean water, I recommend a Feldgrind and Clever dripper to them.

>>8324511
>>8325312
What's the machine? It could be leaking because you're overdosing the basket, or it could just be that you need a new group gasket. You can also try Dow 111 on the gasket, it can really bring a stiff gasket back to life sometimes.

>>8323668
your mom

>>8324029
I like cortados and espresso+milk drinks but on it's own it's not very pleasant. and I hate when places pull it with sugar.

Ordered a French press on monday, should be here tomorrow.

>>8325333
Never actually seen anywhere pull it with sugar. I've heard of it, but don't exactly want to subject my machine to it just to try. Maybe I'll do it with my Caravel sometime.

>>8323668
i bought a moka pot and should be here soon via amazon. have i made a mistake, /ck/?

>>8324511
Yes.

Any Aus-Anons here that can recommend good beans? Or beans I could easily get here.

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I'm thinking of buying a manual grinder, but how long does it take to grind enough for a cup?

Also, at what price do you start seeing grinders with no shitty plastic parts and all metal grind shafts?

All the cheap ones have plastic cores and "AVOID THIS" reviews.

>>8323668
Starbucks's Christmas blend, it's actually not bad at all, some very interesting flavors: crazy for a Starbucks literally charcoal coffee.

>>8325725
My Hario Skerton takes me about 90 seconds to do 23g of medium roast at a medium-ish grind (6 notches)

>>8325806
their blonde roast isn't half bad

i only went to starbucks once, they had pike roast and it was plain burnt trash

>>8325806
you've got shit taste

>>8325821
Yeah I know it isn't, but I wanted to try out their other roasts and blends, as well as their seasonal stuff.

>Chiapas, single-origin
Was a "medium" blend, but would be otherwise known as dark. Was ok but largely shit.

>Thanksgiving blend
Was a pretty dark roast. Shit. Only drinkable if you eat it with a pastry or cookies. It was meant to pair well with both sweet and savory dishes that you might find in a Thanksgiving meal.

>>8325725
Hario Skerton or just buy an electric one like the Baratza Encore.

Why is coffee so finicky?
I was so used to getting preground, but I bought whole bean and a grinder to mix it up.

>30 second grind, 20g coffee, 16 fl. oz water, 3 min in french press
The texture looked similar to preground, so i thought I was doing ok.
Tasted like trash, i tried 3 times and the brew was very watery, like weak tea.
imagine mixing 1 part soda with 9 parts water, and that's what it tasted like
i tried to salvage it by adding half and half and I felt like I was mixing water with milk, absolutely disgusting

>attempt 15 second grind
Suddenly it tasted much better. A bit too light, but it was actually drinkable, and didn't resemble watered down food coloring.

Does this mean a 7 second grind will be twice as good?

Is there a limit to this?

>>8325962
Blade grinders are absolute trash. Any decent cup is solely luck. Use the blade grinder for spices and get a Feldgrind for coffee.

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Any alternatives to bialetti? Tastes like ashtray and cannot afford fancy espresso machines.

>>8325968
my blade grinder cant even grind coriander seeds properly...

how 2 grind beans without grinder???/?

>>8326314
mortar and pestle
multiple plastic bags and a rubber mallet
hammer or other blunt object

>>8326314
Blender

Starbucks Kenya isn't bad at all

Been making a 12 hour cold brew using a french press and dark roast beans from trader joes.

I just leave it on my desk overnight and it's ready the next day when i wake up for work.

Tastes amazing and seems to have the same caffeine as hot coffee. Not as bitter either.

>>8323716
Does your cold brew come out a little chalky/grainy? I normally use a drip or moka pot but decided to try cold brew but i hated the texture even after filtering through a normal coffee filter.

got a used BES860XL and that thing has been kicking ass. The quality of the espresso beats starbucks and most cheap coffeehouses with a nice thick crema. As for getting my espresso to the next level, I'm not sure. I got my grind size and amount set for the most part (16-17g) but I'm still not convinced I am using the optimal beans.

>>8323683
Holy shit dude, you looking for apprentices? I want to learn your ways, espresso yoda

>>8326958
What beans are you using? I'm usuallyea pretty big single origin guy, but I think if I were using a Breville Barista Express I'd look for a quality blend I like. More often than not, there's a wider sweet spot, and the built in grinder isn't good enough for hitting the narrow sweet spot I find in some single origin coffees. Some SOs do have a pretty wide range they're good in, but it's largely guesswork if one will be.

If there's anything in particular you're interested in I'm happy to share my personal advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU-n-ZA242s

Jack does a fucking pour-over. He also shills a coffee-canister that is beyond useless.

>>8327665
>Jack does a fucking pour-over.
So what?

>>8325349
i'm pretty sure blueprint pulls with sugar for straight spro

Drinking some instant coffee. I don't know much about coffee apart from it waking me up.

Every morning, I drink between two and four 4 oz espressos with some half and half. Then, when I get to work, I have a cortado or black eye (or black guy, as I like to say). Then, before the coffee people close up, I sometimes get a double espresso, and pour cold half and half in it in front of the roaster, to upset him.

>>8327265
I use an Italian roast that I buy at an international market that they source themselves. Its definitely not single origin but produces a nice crema. I would like to experiment a bit then perhaps spend some good money on a better grinder and try some more.

>>8326141
You're doing something wrong most probably.

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In a workplace where no-one drinks coffee, how would you make it?

Would look super autistic to bring in a full cafetière, would be broken or used by other people.

I bought some disposable sealed little filter cups that work surprisingly well. Taste better than the shitty work tassimo and instant anyway.

I realised I kinda overlooked American style filter coffee. Are these things any good? Paper filters, or get fancy with reusable metal one?

>>8327842
what's that thing called?

>>8327842
in an office I'd say paper for sure, one less thing to clean and it's easier for other to understand and operate should the need arise

>>8327842
A good pour over like a Clever, v60, or chemex would be good for that situation. Probably v60 considering how it can accommodate cheaper filters easier than a chemex, and considering it has no moving parts to break like a Clever. No co-worker would be able to fuck it up, and most wouldn't even use it because it takes some practice to make good coffee with a pour over. Pour over provides a lot of control over your brew and between grind size / water temperature, you can dial in exactly how you like it done

Does anyone know if instant coffee also has cockroaches/insects like ground coffee?

>>8327995
Instant coffee is just dehydrated coffee. It's made from coffee beans just as much as anything you brew at home.

>>8327795
Italian roast is going to be no good, too overoasted. I've heard Red Bird is a good beginner one.

>>8327985
Can you really tell the difference between coffee filters?

>>8327842
Clever or Bonavita Immersion Dripper. Pourover is too involved.

>>8328245
It's pretty dramatic between a v60 and Chemex.

I'm interested in indulging myself in the world of coffee, but so far I've been just having different blends in my trustful moccamaster.

Will one of you coffee hipsters enlighten me a little?

>>8328392
Are you already grinding your own beans

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>>8323668
My mom is buying me this dualit "3 in 1" for xmas

hope its good

I've just been brewing with a mesh ball tea infuser. They're cheap and it tastes better than drip.

>>8325665
Where are you at? I buy from a cafe nearby my place, I recommend you do the same

>>8328434
I know of the possibility, but haven't been able to buy a grinder. I'm a bit lucky though, there's a small roastery in my town that does suitable grinding if asked. The coffee they sell is ground on the spot and what they have in their small shelves is never older than a month

>>8328472
>haven't been able to buy a grinder
That is #1 on your list

>>8328505
Step it up, bud. 1-step list is pretty easy to fill, considering christmas bonuses an' all.

who was the St. Louis guy?
I tried blueprint once, but wasn't really blown away.
I can never really tell between a place like northwest coffee or blueprint. I like bissengers a lot two, but I' trying to find the best coffee spot in STL

>>8328444
'least it looks qt as hell

Sometimes the grinder is just as if not more important than the espresso machine, so if you get some regular baskets (those seem to be pressurized), look into a good grinder, it really makes a difference

>>8327842
Just make it at home and bring it in a vacuum flask, I do it every day.
It stays hot for 5 hours.

>>8328542
Blueprint doesn't usually blow me away either honestly, they have great beans but I'm not typically too fond of their espresso, and pour over just depends who you get. Sump is my favorite followed by maybe Comet.

Be happy to buy ya a drink at any of the downtownish ones.

>>8327665
Wew I knew it would be bad

>>8328523
Well, you already found a local roaster and your drip machine is the opposite of a piece of shit. What more do you want

>>8327665
>Boyer's mug and coffee
Sweet. He's still a worthless fag, though

>>8326861
never, not ever.

filtration is everything. i have a mesh and a paper liner l i t e r a l l y on top on one another to ensure total filtration.

if anything, i would describe my cold brew as liquid adult candy :^)

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My espresso table.

>>8328523
Get a Feldgrind if you want a good grinder, a Bunnzilla if you want top tier, or EK43 if you want to make sure to blow as much money as possible.

>>8324523
wtf I hate espresso now

>>8329481
daaaaaaaam. that looks rad af

>>8328189
I'll try it out, not too much more than what I pay for a pound already. Any suggestions for a replacement grinder in the future? Not looking for the 3000 range but I'd be willing to spend up to 1000.

Also I looked up the EG-1 and it said on the product page:
>The EG-1 is an industrial Class A electrical appliance. It is not intended for home or domestic use.

Does it require a 220 jack or any special considerations? It looks like its is a normal part of the house in >>8329481 .

You'll have to share some turkish coffee tips sometime as well

>>8329481
>dat horrendous table

your espresso station sorely needs a proper stand

>>8330010
$1,000 would get you an HG-1 or used K10. A used Mythos if you're lucky. They all have their quirks though. And used always has a chance of needing to replace burrs. I'd have other recommendations between $1k and $3k.

You could get a Sette for way less, and it's supposed to be pretty good from what I hear. Bit of a flimsy consumer machine though.

The EG-1 is 110v with a standard outlet. It's just not rated for home use.

>>8330020
I love vintage furniture! Even if some people find it "horrendous" looking today. If I ever switch out the table, it'll only be because I'd like it to be taller. And I'd keep that "horrendous" table around for sure.

Starbucks single origin Sulawesi through my Keurig. Come at me /ck/unts

>>8327842
get an aeropress. those things are indestructible and cheap, easy to clean, and they don't take up much space. and they make decent coffee in about 2 minutes.

>>8325338
If that's your first real coffee brewing method or not, congrats!

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So, uh, I am looking to upgrade my equipment from a shitty blade grinder and French press. I'd like to eventually get an espresso machine but for now, I need a new grinder manual or otherwise. Could you guys recommend a decent grinder for French press/pour over and another for espresso? I really do need to keep it cheap, I'm a poorboi who enjoys coffee ;_;

>>8331372
W-what is going on in that pic...

>>8331393
A boy with a rare disease that causes large keratinous plate-like tumors to form on the skin having the growths surgically removed while under anesthesia. Picture taken at a clinic set up by Médecins Sans Frontières in Venezuela, 1996.

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Is there a noticeable difference (in flavor, etc) between pour over and French press?

>>8329481
>every fucking time every fucking thread
Let loose the idiotic discussion about expenses

I use an Aeropress. Good for my budget, being an uni student. Also did my first cold brew over last night, 1 to 6 coffee to water, steeped for ~18 hours in a 20.5c cupboard (a bit colder than average room temp but significantly warmer than fridge). Turned out all right, I'll probably go for 1 to 4 ratio next time.

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Picked up a new to me. Starbucks (saeco) machine for parts and ended up just cleaning and using it works great best 20 bucks I've spent in a while

Alright guys, coffee question:

I'm looking for some really, really good whole bean coffee to buy for my boyfriend for Christmas. Usually we don't buy anything too fancy but I'd like us to foray into something better.

He likes Ethiopian Yirgacheffe and mostly light and medium roast coffees. What are some good brands and roasts? I'd like to buy several for us to try. I'm looking at Camano Islands Coffee Roasters, Koffee Kult, and the Bean Box variety samplers.

If it matters, we alternate between a drip machine and french press depending on the time we have in the morning and I'm looking into a good manual grinder to replace our shitty electric one.

>>8331538

Is that a joke? Because there is a HUGE difference. French press doesn't have a lot of filtration compared to a pour over so you end up with a super heavy body with lots of tannins. Pretentious coffee autists stay away from french press.

>>8330919
just because it's vintage doesn't mean that it's tasteful. discerning eyes know :P

>>8334695
>I have special eyes

Trying and failing to get any crema on my moka pot espresso

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>>8323668
Had my first espresso last week and god did it taste like shit. Had I put that entire thing down my throat at once I would have thrown up within the following 2 seconds.
Having just 1 small sip made me want to run to the fucking bathroom.

Inb4 "fuckin' pussy, real men drink espresso"

I get why they serve it in those small cups.
1. Idiots want to be noticed when they drink such pretentious garbage.
2. No one could drink a full-sized cup without getting explosive diarrhea of the mouth.

>>8334755
Freshly ground coffee? Grind not too big?

>>8334771
i don't think your coffee preference makes you more 'manly', however it may be indicative of a younger man's palate, since people often grow to appreciate bitter tastes as they get older

also, consider this; intensity of a flavour can demand small portions

>>8334695
Maybe I'm just not into tasteful interior design, I'm fine with that.

>>8334771
Most places serve shit espresso. Where'd ya get it?

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>>8324523
No amount of jumping through hoops will convince me that espresso is "tendies of coffee".

That's like saying craft beers are the tendies of alcoholic drinks.

I would put it to you, that stale diner coffee is the tendies of coffee.

>>8335452
Man, espresso isn't to coffee what craft beer is to beer.

There's a lot of really good third wave brewed coffee. And I'd liken the third wave movement itself to craft beer. But even as a huge espresso fanatic, I can't call it better than good brewed coffee. It' just different.

If coffee is wine, espresso is brandy. Sorry I don't have a good beer analogy. Probably doesn't help I'm a few glasses of "coffee" in tonight.

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>>8334771
Man, I've been everywhere on this website, and there's always one of you.

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>>8325137
It ain't difficult, you just need to be willing to invest in a few things.

Sweat-for-your-cup mode:
Aeropress and a manual burr grinder (Hario Skerton is my choice). Follow instructions and you're good to go. (side note: if you want to do lattés and cappuccinos, consider getting a milk frother. A $5 frothing wand is good enough, just combine it with simmering some milk in a saucier.

I-wear-Giorgio-Armani mode:
You don't really have to break the bank, i have a now-discontinued Breville espresso machine that cost me around $250 (you can certainly get a decent espresso machine cheaper than that) , and a Baratza Encore burr grinder thay cost me $120 (it's a decent chunk o' change, don't get me wrong), and you do get more bang for your buck if you go this route. The espresso machine has to have a steaming wand for your milk. Apart from that, on/off switch is really all you need. The burr grinder should have grind settings that can do ALL your coffee requirements (from super coarse for your cold-steep and your french press, all the way down to your espresso and your Turkish). Google some guides on how to draft a perfect pull if you're going this route.

I've gone both routes, and they're both good, but route 1 will leave you wanting to go route 2

Lastly, remember that all your Starbucks coffees are based on the Italian espresso. A café latté is 1 part espresso, 2 parts steamed milk, and 1 part milk foam. A cappuccino is 1 part espresso, 1 part steamed milk, and 2 parts milk foam.

Best of luck anon

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Unlike fucking kuffar like you, I make my coffee using this.

>>8335593

No one in non sand related subsistence societies respects you people in the least. You're like a street person criticising a human. Don't ever lean on middle eastern/islamic culture because you're all looked on as human garbage these days. Rightly so unfortunately. WHo the the prays 5 times a day? Even if you are retarded.

>>8335858
Hahaha :) Take a look at this funny infidel swine :))

>>8335895

Dirt people are dying in Syria by the thousand. Your lives are worthless to everyone else on the planet. GET THE FUCKING MESSAGE and grow up.

>>8335895

You're not even as valuable to humanity as rhinos or elephants.

>>8325137
I have a manual grinder and average espresso machine at home. The coffee I make, at least to me, is a lot better than nespresso
However, we have a nespresso machine at work, with the little capsules, so I actually end up having way more of those in a week (3 per day)

By no means are they bad, it's just that they're a bit pricey imo at 0.40 euros per capsule

Most of my colleagues also have one at home and they're are more than fine with it

Point being:try out a few different things before deciding. After all, I used some shitty coffee pads for more than a year before getting a grinder and espresso machine, and I didn't hate my life (least not because of that)
Go to a few café's, get double shot espresso at each, find some way to try nespresso, maybe in one of their stores, and then decide for yourself

Not gonna go into financials yet

>>8335907

you know that a burr ground drip coffee is better than anything you'll have in a pod, right?

>>8335914
you either didn't read or didn't understand what I was getting at

I was basically saying that the anon asking for advice might have different tastes, so he should just try the various options and decide

You, for example, like drip coffee more than nespresso. That's lovely, maybe the anon hates drip coffee, fuck should I know.
For example I tried french press for a month and didn't like it, so I moved to espresso, which I love

One thing that bugs me about the nespresso capsules is that they have fairly small amounts of actual coffee. Like the "lungo" ones have just 6 grams, and most others have 5g

What do you guys think about Gaggia? Planning to spend around $500 for a grinder(Orphan Pharos)and an espresso machine. Also, any good guide on cold brew?

>>8335905
>rhinos or elephants
are you implying those aren't valuable?

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>>8335935
hope I don't end up in """""coffee-lovers""""" territory, but I agonized for more than a month over what espresso machine to get

main point of concern about the Gaggia was that, at least in Europe, production is actually done by Philips, and eeeveryone flipped and is saying that they're shit now

I eventually got one (Gaggia Classic) and there are differences from what you'd probably see in the states and in videos. It's somewhat more plastic-y, it comes with pressurized baskets instead of regular ones (which kinda pissed me off), and the steam wand is also not as fancy as it seems to have been

But! Everything else is fine. I got regular filter baskets, used the steam wand quite a few times, and everything is fine really. And for the price I think it was the right choice

Pic related is a hastily made comparison. Haven't opened it up yet, haven't obsessively measured temperature at every milliliter of the way that water travels through it.

Post when you get the Pharos please. I have the Lido 2

>>8335948
Thanks for the insight dude, think I'll cop the Gaggia classic as well. Heard about the built quality issues since they need to follow the EU law.

I'll be getting the pharos in 2 weeks time since I need to go overseas to buy it, funny how my country produce amazing beans but it's always a struggle to get a proper tools to make a good coffee.

>>8335971
hah!

but I just saw a video of how it works, isn't it a bit of hassle to get the beans in and then get the ground coffee out? looks like a fairly bulky thingy

aesthetic as fuck tho
>tfw a manual espresso machine is expensive and a huge hassle to use
would go great next to one

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Please kill me.

>>8335988
can i do it through decapitation?

>>8336020
Yes, I drank two cups of this shit. I'm ready.

>>8334593
>>8334593
>>8334593
I require assistance please coffee gurus

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Pic related in a moka pot

>>8336334
>>8334593
unless you're going to roast it yourself, just go to your local coffee shop that sells whole beans, read them this post and ask for a recommendation.

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I've been making pourover for a while now, with a regular size 2 Melitta. I've seen people and cafes using Hario and Kalita equipment, and I've seen from their advertising that it's supposed to be good because of this and because of that. Often in ways that contradict the competition's claims.

So what I want to know is, is there a "best" design for pourover cones? How can they be compared, without resorting to arbitrary arguments. Hario argues that the pointed cone is good because it extends the contact time between the coffee and the water. Kalita argues that a flat cone is good because it gives a more even extraction.

Is there any science to this?

And maybe more importantly, what is the best way to time the pouring? Also here I feel like the suggestions I have found are completely arbitrary.

>>8331393
its just bread

>>8336458
Theres no science to any of it despite what the people who are selling you something will tell you (also the people who fell for it)

Coffee is entirely subjective and using fancy tools like TDS means literally nothing, not even "consistancy" because the dissolved solids change with temperature.


Thats not to say there arent ways to acheive consistantly good tasting coffee, but there is no science behind it, just placebo and marketing.

>>8324511
if you're dripping water you're losing pressure and that will effect the quality of your shot. you most likely have a crack in your O ring (from over filling the basket too often or from wear and tear). for most machines replacing the O ring is an easy fix (part of long term maintenance). Just visit your machine manufacturer's website for the part and follow a youtube guide to replace it.