Ramsay: 50% spit 50% spite

>>8194509
After some of these Ramsay threads I watched some Kitchen Nightmares (German, so I've never seen it before).
Where exactly do the 50% spite come from? If anything he's pretty nice. If someone calls himself a cook and wants peoples money, he better delivers. It's no excuse that shit quality food isn't broken/disfunctional, like shit quality products are in most other branches.
If I was a cook and dedicated a good time of my life to that profession and I'd see these """cooks""" i'd be pretty mad as well.
He's never mad at people who don't deserve it though, like the waiters.
The overly dramatic production really gets on my nerves though.

>>8194509
ITT: The daily douchebag shilling for a worthless piece of shit, who became a celebrity, by promotional self-aggrandizement.

>>8194509
He tells it how it is and doesn't care about feelings which makes him the ultimate criticism machine. It's good to have people like him because some people can't improve unless they get proper criticism.

>>8194509
For the most part, you don't get on Kitchen Nightmares by being a competent chef who's down on their luck. You get it by being a flagrant fuckup. So he's being a spiteful dick to people who arguably deserve it.

Watch his British shows.
He's way calmer and rational.
His demeanor is all an act to entertain Americans who love the stereotype of the nasty English villain.

>>8194509
I get why people think he's an asshole watching Kitchen Nightmares-- he is. See also >>8195044

Why I personally like him is because I feel like he genuinely comes to cooking from a place of-- love isn't the right word, more like quiet worship. I do music more than cooking, and I always think of this Bach quote where he says "Anyone can play an instrument-- you just push the right buttons at the right times, and the instrument plays itself". That's how I feel watching Ramsay cook-- it isn't an adversarial, controlling thing, it's like he's just passively doing the right things at the right times to help the food become what it wants to become.

I think that's part of what makes Kitchen Nightmares so compelling, honestly-- it's Gordon Ramsay confronted with something he can't just passively guide into what he wants to happen.

Also, watch him in anything else-- if you aren't a self-important cock or an unrepentant fuckup, he's got a heart of gold. I think he's honestly a kind person at his core, and I think cooking helped him get there-- he wants to share that solace with anyone else who might find it.

>>8195072
This. Watching his cooking shows on YouTube is just awesome. He takes raw ingredients and just makes magical bullshit that I try to recreate but never get exactly the same. Plus the way he talks about food is erotic almost so it's very entertaining.

>>8194509
he respects food.

>>8194509
Hes a good cook, but Hell's kitchen has been unwatchable for atleast 3 years now and Masterchef is going to shit too

Marco Pierre is at least twice the cook Ramsay is. At least. He's a guy who learned the classics and prepares foods accordingly.

Ramsay seems to just rush through everything using the correct ingredients, but still just neglecting the dish.

>>8195760
Making food is not porn. Results are what matter, not aesthetics when making shit, you dumb fuck.

>>8195794
I disagree. I think a well-cared for preparation creates a finer meal.

Did this thread get shadowbanned?

It seems like all the other threads are getting bumped, but this one isnt.

>>8195794
Aesthetics is part of results. If your food looks horrible, no one would want to eat it outside of extreme hunger/a child who has no choice.

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>>8194509
He's a character who puts ameriburger scum in their places.

HOT PAN

WELLINGTON

OLIVE OIL

SALT AND PEPPA

S E A S O N E D

KNOB OF BUTTAH

AND JUST, ROLLIT

AROUND

FILLET OF BEEF

NIGGERS

AND PAN FRY

WELL DONE

OFF THE HEAT

F R A G R A N T

BACK ON THE HEAT

AND JUST

STIR THE HAGGIS

CURRY POWDER

OFF THE HEAT

PAT DRY

ON THE HEAT

CANDIED EELS

OFF THE HEAT

MARSHMALLOWS

A NICE RUSTIC FLAVOUR

BACK ON

FOODWISHES

PLATE

AND AS ALWAYS

ENJOOOYYY~

>>8195890
>animu on a food and cooking board.
Retard.

>>8195055
This

>>8194542
First post best post.

He's never a dick to someone who doesn't deserve it.

>>8195930
Reminder you're on a weeb website owned by a Japanese man.

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related

>>8195901
You forgot the creme fraiche. That Scottish fuck loves that shit

I once told him that he was a fucking poofy wee cunt and he shat it.

t. IRL Glaswegian

>>8195901
LET
THE
KNIFE
DO
THE
WORK

I like ramsay. He's a dick but at least it's with people who deserve it.

>>8194542
Watch the UK series (Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares), not the American version for retards.

>>8197295
Thanks kind anon, I'll take a look

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I dunno, he's an asshole and is famous for it. Maybe people see themselves in him.

Also every episode of kitchen nightmares showcases people who are inept at running a restaurant, which makes him look good by comparison. You know, the Dr. House type of "rude but brilliant" character. Folks like to imagine being allowed to yell at people and be right all the time through him.

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he doesn't seem like an asshole to me

>ask ramsay to come into your restaurant to try and fix it
>then argue with him and lie to him

he brings awesome bantz, lighten up m8!

>>8195716
Masterchef was shit and rigged for views after season 2 are u joking?

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>>8195072
>Also, watch him in anything else-- if you aren't a self-important cock or an unrepentant fuckup, he's got a heart of gold. I think he's honestly a kind person at his core, and I think cooking helped him get there-- he wants to share that solace with anyone else who might find it.

This is why I prefer Marco. He genuinely does not give a shit about other people's opinions or issues, only about mastery of his craft. Not people above him, under him, or his equals, not a single one matters to him.

I also think he is keenly aware of what people will break or be honed under intense pressure, video very related.

https://youtu.be/9lnP4ApEOiU

He reads people clinically, like a psychiatrist, completely stripped of emotion.

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I say he should wear a mouth mask all the time, he has that horrible habit of bending over the food and screaming at the chefs spraying with saliva everything on his path.

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I was hammered drunk when I met him, my wife told him his clam chowder sucked and he raised an eyebrow and said "Oh? And you could do better?"
"No" she said meekly and looked at her shoes, it was hilarious.

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>>8199611
so the critic can't be criticized? talk about irony

>>8198396

Mastery of what craft? Cooking for smokers?

He loved the kitchen obviously, but is no stranger to self indulgence to the point of detriment to his cooking.

So I just watched some of the uk series and I seriously don't get where the 50% spite are supposed to come from now.
It seems to me like it's a pleasure to work with him, maybe not under him, but as long as you deliver what you "promised" he seems pretty cool to me.

>>8194542
the UK version is so much better not nearly as dramatic as the US version.

>>8196602
It's like I could actually hear it.

>>8197295
Its sad too because you can tell Gordon was getting tired of the American versions bullshit. That and dealing with owners that almost never listened to a goddamn word he said. Its probably no surprise that almost all the places that listened to him and followed his advice are still open.

>>8198396
I have great respect for MPW but I can't stand most of the shows with him in because it's so painful watching him talk to other people. You know immediately what he's going to say - "don't do that" or "you did that well" - but it takes him ten fucking minutes to do it because either the other person won't shut up or he wants to make the point in a slow, dramatic way.

It's great when he's just relaxed and talking normally though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOTBc28OIno

>>8194542
Even then, he's only an asshole to ARROGANT people. If a chef on Nightmares is like "Oh my god dude I have no fucking idea what I'm doing, please help me" he will be the nicest motherfucker on the planet, because actually-giving-a-shit is important to him.

It's the apathetic "Pft, I know what I'm doing" assholes who call him in to save their restaurants and then rebuff his suggestions that he goes nuclear on.

>>8195055
Britbong Kitchen Nightmares >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Burger Kitchen Nightmares

Also the american version focused too much on the restaurant owner's personal problems instead of food. Gordon is a chef, not a therapist. He should be fixing people's cooking, not fixing their marriages or counseling them because their father never hugged them. The american version is nearly unwatchable for me due to how far the actual cooking is shoved into the backseat. Also it lacks Gordon's narration.

Huh, only just realised he's a lefty.

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>brits
>cooking

>>8195055
>stereotype

You do know that he fucked up Marco, right? The US version of his shows show his real character.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/mar/26/foodanddrink.travelnews

>>8200108
>inb4 he deserved it, UK version is superior, ramsay is the nicest person ever, he won't hurt a fly, americans are a bunch of ignorants, etc

>>8200108
Evil mastermind.

>>8195055
>nasty English villain
>English

wut

>>8200108
This just makes me like him even more.
The kitchen shouldn't be a touchy feely safe space. It's a studio.

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>BRITS
>FOOD
>COOKING

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

>>8200726
>le edgy millennial kid
you have to be 18 or older to post on this site.

>>8200757
I'm 29. I'm sorry that your mid shift supervisor at yelled at you for not cleaning the grease traps.

>>8200760
(you)

>>8200726
>stealing your own reservation book and blaming it on your mentor is acceptable behavior

Literally scum.

>>8200790
*literally british
fixed that for you

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nice 'za

>>8199611
>not getting you a free Ramsay blowjob by challenging him to suck you off better than she can

Shit wife

>>8200795
But he's Scottish.

The british kitchen nightmares where he doesn't shout and does stuff at high end restaurants was pretty swell.

His twitter is a gold mine occassionally, and its funny how he wont stop posting about truffles

>>8197295

Yeah the American version is garbage. The UK version actually makes him seem like a really cool dude. He coaches people and inspires them. It's great.

I don't understand why he even does the US version. Obviously it makes money but if he were only about money then he wouldn't work so hard to win those Michelin stars and all that. He rants about quality in food yet pumps out garbage on the TV. He's a perplexing contradiction.

>>8201725
He craves the spotlight over everything else, including cooking.

Ramsay is a good guy. He is knowledgeable not only about food, but about managing a business properly.

Most of the "rage" is more so for TV. He is very intense but there's a purpose for it. The only way to train a chef is to grill him hard and put him under pressure, Ramsay knows this.

Watching his British shows gives a better picture on how Ramsay is.

>>8196602
>guitar riffs in the background
>not this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeahDDyFhWY

>>8198396
wtf i hate mpw now

>>8195795
>tips fedora

>>8194509
That's a really nice topic title, OP.

>>8202488
>anyone more intelligent than me must be pretentious.
Nice one, Cleetus.

>>8194509
>why do people like him?

I like him because he's incredibly skilled and is a perfectionist.

Plus, if you look at his UK shows rather than the over-dramatized US ones, you'll see that he's also very good at being supportive & teaching others.

>>8201725
>Obviously it makes money but if he were only about money then he wouldn't work so hard to win those Michelin stars and all that. He rants about quality in food yet pumps out garbage on the TV. He's a perplexing contradiction.

Same reason MPW shills shitty stock cubes now. He put two odd decades of his life into being a head chef, achieved the greatest accolade in the craft, and now that he's been there and done that, he'd rather just take the money and live a comfortable family life.

>>8201725
>Obviously it makes money but if he were only about money then he wouldn't work so hard to win those Michelin stars and all that

Incorrect. His Michelin stars are the reason for his fame and credibility. If he lost that then he would have far less marketability for his real moneymaking empire--the TV shows, cookbooks, and so on.

And besides which, he really doesn't spend that much time on the stars currently. He worked his way up, and now he has various other chefs that trained under him who actually run the day-to-day operations of his restaurants. Ramsay is an executive, not the chef du cuisine at any of his restaurants.

>>8202735
When will one of his chefs do to him what he did to Marco? It's a doggy dog world after all

>>8201725
>He rants about quality in food yet pumps out garbage on the TV. He's a perplexing contradiction.

I don't see a contradiction; it's all about context.

When he's working with a fine dining restaurant, yes, he's anal about quality. Same when he's involved in a dramatic TV program--the whole point is watching him act like the aggressive perfectionist. For many other things he does indeed let the quality slide...but that's not in the context of a fine-dining establishment, or an acting role that requires a certain character.

I remember a few years ago there were some news headlines regarding a pub that he owned serving food that was prepared offsite and then reheated. People were astounded that the great Ramsay would do something like that. Well, what the heck did people expect? It was a pub, not a three-star restaurant. Of fucking course a £10 meal at a pub is going to have some corners cut compared to a £200 meal at his flagship restaurant....

>>8199611
>that logic
he's an asshole and a moron

>>8199611
Why would someone go onto the internet and lie?

I saw Gordon Ramsay at a supermarket in Chelsea yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>>8203118
the start of this gets me every time