Does price equal quality, /ck/?

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Do you go for what you think/know will taste the best?

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Do you try to buy whatever is the cheapest? Either per quantity or net price.

>>7947155
Holy heck, where are you getting these prices?

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Or do you try to buy for what you think you'll use in an appropriate time? For example buying the largest quantity you can find, or smallest so you have minimal food waste?

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>>7947159
by living in the most remote place on earth

>>7947142
Depends. Just do a taste test and find out which brand you deem is worth the money paid.
>>7947170
I'm surprised you have a choice at all.

>>7947180
>Depends. Just do...

I'm not asking for suggestions on what to do. I'm curious as to what (you) /ck/ does.

Doesn't necessarily mean only cereal. Mostly groceries in general. Bread/eggs/butter/cereal/meat/milk etcetera.

I already know what method I do.

>>7947192
Use your comprehension skills. What I typed is what I would do.

>I already know what method I do.
Then fuck off, you snooty prick.

>>7947203
>Then fuck off, you snooty prick.

>>I'm curious as to what (you) /ck/ does.

'Use your comprehension skills.', senpai.

>>7947142
Just buy corn flakes, they're cheap, every brand tastes identical and they're not loaded with fucking sugar.

I'll generally try the cheap store brand and if it's acceptable then I'll stick with it. I find it odd that all frozen vegetables are the fucking same, but the disparity in canned veggies is pretty noticeable.

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No, there's no guarantee for quality. And if there was, there'd be no guarantee you'd even like it.

Just buy whatever. If you don't like it, buy something else. If you can't afford it, buy something cheaper. If you're out of options, tough shit.

>>7947292
>not loaded with fucking sugar
This is why I've started eating granola with milk instead of cereal. It's just cereal spelled differently.

Add sliced banana and it's the fucking tits.

It depends. For a lot of items the name brand really does taste better, and I decide if it's worth the extra few cents or dollar.

>>7947342
I agree. With certain products the cheapest option isn't always the best value because it sucks so much. Bread, booze, desserts, eggs, cheese, coffee... All are worth spending a little extra imo.

However, my mum used to work at a factory and said they would put the exact same product in different labeled packaging, and then later she'd see those different items being sold for different prices. You're paying for the label, as she says. I think the product she saw this happen with was canned veg, maybe baked beans.

Aldi recently opened in my city and 95% of their packaged products come out of the same factory as the legit branded name.

They usually alter the recipe a little then sell it half the price

Fuck the brand names, Aldi is good enough for me

>>7947702
Can you taste the difference between cheap and expensive eggs? I'm guessing you're an ausfag like me based on your post, apologies if you aren't but

The next part about the same shit going into different bags at the factory is exactly what I was talking about in my aldi post above

>corn flakes
>quality

you may as well eat the box

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>>7947707
I'm British.

As for eggs, the super cheap battery farmed ones are noticeably worse here. Shells are brittle and the egg inside is watery with a limp yolk. You also get more of that weird brown shit in there (pic related - apparently called "blood spots"), which is caused by illness in the hen. I feel bad for battery farmed chickens too. I know they're only birds but the living conditions are pretty horrific from what I've seen, and the guilt actually affects my enjoyment of the eggs. Not so much that I go vegan though.

By contrast, my old flatmate's mum kept chickens and gave us her surplus eggs. Way better. The shells were hard and the egg inside was so thick and pure it was almost like frying a steak by comparison.

I'll be honest, I don't think I ever noticed a difference in actual flavour, but the difference in general quality is huge.

>>7947723
Yeah sorry m8, I knew you were either a Brit or Aussie but wasn't sure.

It sounds like your battery eggs are way fucked up there. I have never seen anything like that here and I only ever buy cage eggs. The free range ones are about $2 more per dozen and I'm a poor fucker so have to save every cent I can.

I have on occasion had free range eggs when visiting the parents etc but I can't say I've noticed a huge difference in flavour, they did seem to taste better but it could be just because everything tastes better when someone else cooks it. Well, not everything, but fried eggs and bacon taste better when someone else cooks it and you're hungover as af

I'm really surprised about that shit you get in your eggs and the brittle shells. Maybe your cage egg industry has even shittier standards than ours, even though I thought ours were pretty bad

>>7947707
>Can you taste the difference between cheap and expensive eggs?
I make sure to not buy the cheapest ones. For the cheap eggs they feed the animals something strange so the eggs induce barfing reflexes when eaten.

>>7947737
Lucky I buy the 700g dozen instead of the 600g dozen which are about 40-50c more.
So relieved to know I won't have them explode inside me, thanks bro

>>7947741
For cheap eggs I believe they feed the chickens fishmeal. They give the eggs a strange taste I can't handle.

>>7947731
>hungover as as fuck

I have definitely been that hungover

>>7947704
>Aldi recently opened in my city and 95% of their packaged products come out of the same factory as the legit branded name.

Former Aldi manager here, makes me laugh that people believe this.

>>7947758
Laughed too. Aldi got their produce from 3world countries.all taste like shite,. Milk is ok, tho

>>7947731
No worries Anon. Not many Brits on here at this time of day.

The blood spots thing is usually only found in the absolute worst eggs. We label eggs by production standards over here in the EU:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_marking

They range from 0-3, with 0 being free range organic and 3 being caged, and it's only really with the category 3 eggs that I've noticed a major difference. I dunno how the production methods differ from Australia, but it sounds like you get better quality fresh food in general.

>>7947758

>implying the manager of a grocery store knows what factory a packaged product comes from

You're a twit.

>>7947704
While it might be somewhat true in certain places in Europe they will use other recipes and ingredients with a lower quality class. For example Lidl and "premium" chain store's low price brand gets a lot of their products from major companies that produce both premium and low price wares.

It's nothing wrong with the low price products in a country with strict food laws. Just that they may for example have used cucumbers that weren't straight enough.

>>7947330
Protip: most granola sold anywhere in the world ever is made with butter and sugar so is more calorie dense than other cereals.

>>7947142
>Does price equal quality?
They /tend to be/ correlated but aren't necessarily and one does not equal the other, no.

>>7947149
>Do you go for what you think/know will taste the best?
Within the range of what I'm willing to pay for it, yes. I go for what I think will be the best bang-for-the-buck purchase.

>>7947156
>Do you try to buy whatever is the cheapest? Either per quantity or net price.

If/when I do that, it's always per quantity. And again, I try to get whatever's the best bang for the buck. Like yesterday, I bought a pound and a half of parsnips. One had about two inches or so rotted, so the pack was on manager's special for 59¢. I was going to have cabbage rolls in sour tomato sauce with rye bread and buttered carrots for dinner, anyway, and adding a parsnip to that wouldn't be a bad thing. SO I changed it up and had carrots and parsnips instead, using the good part of the rotted parsnip. Good meal.

>>7947163
I just buy whatever will be the best bang for the buck, utilising a freezer if necessary to prolong usefulness.

>>7947833
I dont care about your comment amerilard
I'm in Australia and there's only a handful of manufacturing companies here so that means most of Aldi's shit comes local

>>7947758
My last comment was meant for you, tard

>>7947142
for cereal you really pay for quality. better tasting, bigger flakes, and so on.

>>7947155
>fibers
>lower cholesterol
even homeopathy magic makes more sense.

>>7947142
get kelloggs you slut look how endearing that tiger is

>>7948043
>whole grain consumption doesn't lower cholesterol

>>7947142
Brand recognition is a thing

>>7947142
Kellogg's and General Mills products sure as fuck do not equal quality in any meaningful sense of the word. They are trash.

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>>7949176
So are you a Post kind of guy?

>>7949193
I do not buy any boxes of sweetened, processed grains. I avoid ready to eat industrially produced food as much as I can because it tastes like shit and I'm not convinced it's particularly good to eat.

>>7947758
It is true though. Do you have any idea how complicated the process is for making something like cornflakes is? There are not hundreds of cornflake factories vying for business out there.

Case in point: when the McVities factory in Carlisle flooded, the supply of Ginger Nut Biscuits dried up. Everywhere. All brand names, all the supermarket brands. All of them. Because they were all made in that one factory.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/12139012/Britain-suffers-biscuit-drought-following-McVities-factory-flood.html

>>7949247
>Ginger Nut Biscuits
Who the fuck buys that shit? That's what I don't get. I could see how it might have been novel in the 1960's or 70's but I really don't get who is still buying that stuff today.

>Not buying the store brand stuff and only getting the name brand stuff when it's on sale.

>>7947704
>same factory
doesn't mean shit. A factory varied the quality of the products. It's not a closed constant chainsometime they even make like a thousand of the same product then change the label depending on the final result quality.

>>7949261
>Stop liking what I don't, the fedora tip.

Who buys them is entirely beside the point.

Kellog's rice crispies costs 6,70€/kg my nearest store. https://www.foodie.fi/products/search/kellogg's

I buy cookie crisps because I'm sexually attracted to the wolf mascot.

He used to wear a red sweatshirt and blue jeans when they first introduced him. Could you imagine the look on my face when he started appearing on the box naked?

>>7947142

No. Store brand stuff is usually, with exceptions, equivalent to name brand stuff. Try all the store brand stuff at least once and learn what is and isn't equivalent through trial and error. Save money by doing so.

>>7949267
It's a legit question though. Back in the day this stuff sold on health fad quackery and customers wanting to embrace modernity. How is this stuff selling now? Customers who just don't give a shit, or don't know any better? I really don't get it.

>>7949299
How is what stuff selling? Biscuits? I assume because people like them.

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>>7949262
>Not buying everything when it's on sale.

>>7949304
That too.

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>>7949277
They don't sell those here. They look good though.

I wonder if you could make "cookie crisp" with those dried up packaged cookies.

>>7949302
Ready to eat highly processed food in boxes. It's just so degraded. If you've ever had a cookie/biscuit made by someone who knew how to bake why would you ever settle for what they sell in boxes in the supermarket? That shit is not even in the same universe. And if you've ever had a delicious breakfast why would you ever choose to eat breakfast cereal? Is it just not giving a fuck about what you eat?

>>7949352
>If you've ever had a cookie/biscuit made by someone who knew how to bake why would you ever settle for what they sell in boxes in the supermarket?

Because we live in an industrial age where skills & knowledge are now too specialised for a single person to know how to do everything, thus leading to people to rely on mechanisation and mass production for their needs rather than small communities of more generalised skills?

If we go any further you'll have to sign up and pay for the Sociology 101 course.

>>7949352
Fresh cookies are more expensive. They're not even better, just different. Softer and chewier. You don't want one or the other ALL the time.

As for breakfast, it's quick and mess free on most days. Who wants to cook right before work?

>>7949357
>now too specialised for a single person to know how to do everything

But that's not true at all. We just fill our heads with useless shit like pokemon rather than bothering to learn cooking. If anything, it's easier to learn these skills today than it ever was in the past. Thanks to the internet we can now get advice and instruction on anything from anywhere in the world. We can use free machine translation to read and understand cookbooks (and whatever else) written in foreign languages. We can watch how-to videos from experts anytime we feel like it. And thanks to modern shipping we can buy ingredients from anywhere in the world.

It's not hard to learn how to make a biscuit. Even people who have zero education have done so in the past.

>>7949363
>But that's not true at all.

Even if I knew how, I do not have the time to catch, gut, fillet & smoke my own Salmon. Or indeed to build the smoker, cut down the trees and prepare the smoke wood to smoke my own Salmon.

Which is why I buy smoked Salmon.

>It's not hard to learn how to make a biscuit.

Okay, but what about making your own puffed rice or corn flakes? Do you know how to do that? What about granola: do you collect your own honey, grow your own grapes & dry your own raisins, and grow, harvest & flay your own oats?

>>7949362
>Who wants to cook right before work?

Do I want to? No. But it beats the alternative. I don't enjoy brushing my teeth or shaving either, but I still do those things.

I'd rather endure the hassle of cooking before work than eat shit food before work.

>>7949370

completely off the topic of overly processed foods. you buy basic ingredients and prepare your own finished product. sure you buy oats that are processed by a factory to make your own cookies, but that's leagues different than just buying their finished product with 20 different chemicals added to enhance shelf life and ridiculous taste.

>>7949370
You seem to be dumping anything to do with "DIY" into the same category while in reality those things are very different.

Cutting down a tree is very impractical for an average citydweller. It's child's play for someone who lives in the country.

Fishing your own salmon is easy if you live in the right place. It's very impractical if you don't. And so on.

>>puffed rice?
Very easy. Deep fry rice. Done.

>>corn flakes
I've never tried to make those since I don't like them. But I imagine it would be pretty simple.

>>Granola
No, I don't keep my own bees. But I do buy honey, raisins, oats, etc from the supermarket and make the finished product myself.

>>7949357
>skills & knowledge are now too specialised for a single person
I don't believe that, though. I think perpetuating that myth sells more crappy products to consumers who believe they don't have the time to do basic things like cook or bake for themselves. But these same people spend hours watching TV, so I don't buy it.

The thing that gets me about it is the degradation of the products sold. I would understand it if the industrially produced ready to eat foods were anywhere near the same quality of what you could cook for yourself, but they're not. It's aisles and aisles of seriously degraded food in the supermarket that saves you what? The greater part of an hour a day in the kitchen, which would make it relatively easy to eat so much better for the same money (or less)?

Like I said, I can see why folks went for it back in the middle of the 20th Century when being modern was the marketing angle. But we're way past that today. What's the allure of settling for such degraded food today? Not giving a shit is the only answer I can come up with.

>>7949391
>completely off the topic of overly processed foods.

No it isn't. I'm establishing where we're going to draw our entirely arbitrary line.

>sure you buy oats that are processed by a factory to make your own cookies, but that's leagues different than just buying their finished product with 20 different chemicals added to enhance shelf life and ridiculous taste.

Oh there we go, found it. "Muh chemicals" is it, apparently.

>>7949376
But it's not shit food. You just don't like it.

>>7949396
>Very easy. Deep fry rice. Done.

Nope.

>I imagine it would be pretty simple.

A simple "no" would suffice.

>No, I don't keep my own bees.

So you admit you rely on the conveniences of other people doing things you can't? Cool. So your complaint is entirely baseless. Glad I could help.

>>7948818
>whole grain = fibre, but fibre =/= whole grain

>>7949399

Enjoy your cancer.

>>7949407
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Puffed-Rice

>>7949370
all I hear is

>I am a lazy cunt

seriously there's a million and one guides for fishing out there and disregarding your retarded 'rhetorical' argument for more than a few seconds it's not hard or expensive to go fishing.

you're just looking for excuses to be lazy and continue shitposting on 4chan like a typical millennial manchild. all too common and all too tragic.

the death of america~~

Here's the real talk:

Never buy the cheapest brand. The cheapest brand is always going to be shit quality.

The second cheapest brand is usually the best value for money. The food quality is higher than the budget version but still a reasonable price.

Above this you get diminishing returns on quality for the price, but definitely worth the investment for certain products, but this varies by region, tastes, and priorities.

>>7949370
>Okay, but what about making your own puffed rice or corn flakes?
The only reason anybody eats that is because it's easy to mass produce with cheap ingredients and can sit on the shelf forever without going bad. No one in their right mind would choose to eat that if it's weren't for convenience. It's not good stuff. Eating it is degrading.

If you were going to put the effort into actually making something you would choose to make something much better than that. And it isn't difficult.

>>7949424
>he says, shitposting on 4chan

Other people have lives just like you.

>>7949437
Huh?

>>7949432
Do you have a full English every day or something?

It's placebo. You are neurologically wired to associate value with quality even when it's bullshit.

So when you buy the shittiest brand it impacts your tastebuds and tricks you into thinking it's worse even when it's all the same processed shit except with prettier mascots in the end.

Look up veblen goods to see how manufacturers exploit this consumer tendency by positioning certain items as 'upmarket' and thus ensue greater profit margins.

>>7949424
Oh cool so I can spend 5 hours fishing (not including the travel time to a salmon ground, of course), then lets see, a day to fell & prepare a tree, then chip it, a weekend to build the smoker, then an hour to prepare the fish, and a day to smoke it.

Cool! Only about a week and a half and I can have some smoked salmon!

I'm going to need some cream cheese though so I best start rearing the calves now, and building the milking shed. Guess I'll need to fell some more trees for that. Oh and smelt the iron for the nails; or do I need to mine that myself?

The cucumbers are easy enough at least; although it's too late this year.

The bread is fine; I can do a sourdough, but the wheat is going to take ages. And do I need to build my own mill to grind it? If so, do I need to make my own millstones?

What about all of the tools to make these things? Can I buy those, or must I make themselves myself to not be a "lazy cunt"?

Hang on, wait: what about the clothes I wear when I do all of this? I don't have any sheep, so I guess I better get some.

I guess come back in 5 years and I'll finally have a smoked salmon, cream cheese & cucumber sandwich though! Woo, not relying on anyone else rocks!

>>7949453
You wrote this out family. Seek help.

>>7949453
how butthurt are you at being told you're a lazy cunt?

all you're doing is spamming strawmen arguments implying that all human self improvement needs to be in totality when nobody in this thread made that argument.

you're just looking for excuses to type a lot of words of 4chan and continue being a lazy cunt

now, answer the question like a mature adult instead of a babby *channer

what is so hard about learning how to fish? Not learning how to chop down trees, not learning how to rear cows, what is so hard about learning how to fish?

>>7949453
>Can I buy those, or must I make themselves myself to not be a "lazy cunt"?

You can buy most of what you're talking about.

Want smoked salmon? Buy a salmon. Smoke it using a store-bought smoker fired with store-bought wood.

You're talking this to some kind of absurd Nth degree.

>>7949457
I wrote it on a computer that was designed & built by somebody else, too. Shit; if you give me a couple of weeks to collect & dry some firewood, I can send smoke signals instead. Although I'll need a blanket, so if I'm not allowed to purchase one that somebody else made I'm going to need a year or two to raise the sheep to produce enough wool to weave one.

Shit I'll need to weave it. I guess I'll need to build a spinning jenny & a simple weaving machine while I wait for my sheep to grow their fleeces out.

Unless I need to mine the ore to make my own nails & tools again.

Damn, this not-being-a-lazy-cunt thing is tough. How do you all do it?

>>7949453
>weekend to build a smoker

You should take up a craft and work with your hands once in awhile. A smoker only takes a few hours (if that) to build.

>>7949460
>what is so hard about learning how to fish?

What's so hard about building your own smoker, felling the tree, chipping it, gutting & preparing the fish and smoking it yourself?

What's so hard about making your own corn flakes?

What's so hard about building your own computer to shitpost on 4chan?

>>7949466
>intentional forced logical fallacies

oh so you're just le trawling XD

carry on

>>7949464
>You can buy most of what you're talking about.

I can buy smoked salmon.

>You're talking this to some kind of absurd Nth degree.

I'm just trying to establish where this imaginary and entirely arbitrary line is.

So far we've got to baking your own cookies == good; mining your own iron ore to make nails == bad? Perhaps you could narrow it down?

>>7949460
it's an big messy waste of time. what would that average person gain from fishing?

it's mostly automated already, it won't be long before robots are raising and catching fish. why bother?

>>7949467
>A smoker only takes a few hours (if that) to build.

From materials you have at hand that somebody else already prepared? You lazy cunt. I bet you didn't even make your own fishing pole to catch the salmon, did you?

>>7949474
Paid salmon industry spokesperson detect.

>NO ANON! DON'T LEARN TO FISH IT'S TOO HARD BUY ALL OF OUR OVERPRICED PRODUCTS INSTEAD

How much are you being paid per post? I'm genuinely curious as to what the going rate for viralers is these days.

>>7949443
Fuck no. Most days I make oatmeal with some toasted nuts. Doesn't take much effort, and is much less depressing than corn or rice flakes soaked in cold milk.
>>7949453
There are always going to be things you buy already made. But when the choice is between a degraded version of something industrially produced and a much better result easily made at home it seems to me it ought to be obvious. There's no reason to get into hyperbole about cutting down trees and building your own smoker. I'm talking situations where a small amount of effort yields a dramatically better result. In those situations why settle for less?

>>7949481
Yes that's right goyim, everyone who doesn't learn how to fish is just elitist! Buy our products! Spend your hard earned shekels $12 for 6oz of farmed salmon! It's okay, you can afford the credit card debt. :)

>>7949481

We're all lazy cunts; I should've willed the ore into existence. Fuck me I'm a twat.

>>7949484
>But when the choice is between a degraded version of something industrially produced and a much better result easily made at home it seems to me it ought to be obvious.

No. Because your values are not my values. My time is not your time. I may have different tradeoffs of time:value.

>a small amount of effort

It's a couple of hours to bake a batch of cookies. That's time I could spend doing something like reading a book, or painting a new model for my railway, or practicing the foreign language I'm learning, or visiting a friend. To me, some of those things are more valuable. So I may choose to spend my time doing those things instead.

Or we could all just spend our time shitposting on 4chan, instead.

>>7949484
>But when the choice is between a degraded version of something industrially produced and a much better result easily made at home it seems to me it ought to be obvious

I couldn't have said it any better myself.

>>7949484
So you're just eating a slightly less processed cereal.

What do you think happens exactly to corn and wheat and oats when they're "industrially produced" that makes them so "degrading" and "depressing"?

Also cold milk sounds a lot nicer in the summer than hot oatmeal.

>>7949490
>It was /pol/ all along.

I should have guessed.

>>7949499
>It's a couple of hours to bake a batch of cookies

pls gut gud at shitposting senpai. too garbage gg

>>7949499
you don't do any of that shit you just shitpost on /int/

stop pretending like you have a life: You're on 4chan. You don't. It just makes you out for the autistic NEET you truly are.

Now post your piss jugs.

>>7949499
>That's time I could spend doing something like reading a book

You can do all of those things while the cookies are in the oven. You don't have to sit there and stare at them while they bake and then cool down afterward.

>>7949509
I don't have an oven large enough to cook 50 cookies at once.

>>7949503
You... realize you can make oatmeal cold right?

My little anon can't be this shit at cooking. No wonder there's so many fast food threads lmao

huh I guess economies of scale don't exist, well I better tell every economist ever that /ck/ proved them wrong

>>7949511
>You can do all of those things while the cookies are in the oven.

OR I could do those things and not just bake the cookies. AND you could just accept that everyone is not you and frankly many people just don't give a shit about cookies.

I only buy organic, gluten free, vegan food that costs 5x as much as the toxic crap you plebs eat, it must be healthier and taste better because it's more expensive!

>>7949512
Easy-bake oven detected

>I don't know how to cut down recipes proportionally

>>7949520
i care about cookies, you goddamn nazi.

>>7949503
>So you're just eating a slightly less processed cereal.

Right. but that "slightly less" processing happens to have a huge effect on the taste.

>>What do you think happens exactly to corn and wheat and oats when they're "industrially produced" that makes them so "degrading" and "depressing"?

They're shitty varieties of those grains which are selected for maximum growth rather than flavor. Compare, say, Anson Mills wheat with industrially produced wheat. But that's a pretty minor gripe. The real problem isn't the wheat or the grain or whatever, it's what's done to it to make it into the finished product.

Nothing wrong with buying plain oats (or whatever) from the supermarket. OTOH, once it goes into a cereal with all kinds of unpronounceable bullshit in it...that's a different story.

And another factor is simply freshness. Even with identical ingredients that's a huge thing. Even if you took the exact same ingredients used in highly processed food but you did it "to order" rather than having it sit in a package for a long time the finished product would be much better.

/ck/: cooking is too hard :(((((

sad desu

>>7949523
Great so now the time to prepare the dough & the energy to heat the oven is precisely the same but I get even *less* back in return?

The other Anon was right: "Economy of scale" is an entirely alien concept to you, isn't it?

>>7949535
>energy

shut off your computer and stop shitposting on 4chan for a day, there's your energy

you won't though because you're really just pretending to be retarded and you have baked cookies right next to you as i type this

>One anon conveniently derailing a thread about the fallacy of a price-value correlation


Gee, I wonder who could be behind this "argument"....

>>7949503
>What do you think happens exactly to corn and wheat and oats when they're "industrially produced" that makes them so "degrading" and "depressing"?
The grains are stripped of all their natural fiber, oils and any flavor they had is destroyed so it can be replaced by whatever set of natural and artificial flavors they like at the factory. The nutrition is added after the fact as well.

Why the fuck would I pay for the privilege of eating that when I like the taste of oats, toasted nuts and cinnamon. Those are recognizable flavors, not some made up industrial bullshit that doesn't taste like much of anything.

That's what depressing and degrading about the industrially produced stuff.

>>7949512
Who the fuck needs 50 cookies at once?
>>7949520
>many people just don't give a shit about cookies.
That's the only way I can imagine this stuff sells. The customer really doesn't give a shit. They're barely noticing what they taste like as the mindlessly eat them in front of the TV. Because anyone who actually gave a shit would not eat cookies that were such poor quality.

>>7949558
>The grains are stripped of all their natural fiber, oils and any flavor they had is destroyed so it can be replaced by whatever set of natural and artificial flavors they like at the factory.

lol

Yeah and the chemtrails keep the sheeple blind to the truth!

>>7949595

do you really find the former so hard to believe?

Haven't you ever eaten fresh grains at your grandma's house or something and realized how different that tastes from the crap at the market?

>>7949595
Not at all. It's just that the processing isn't being done to make a better product for the consumer. It isn't done to improve the taste or nutrition of the final result. It's done to make the result as cheap to produce and shelf stable as possible while being ready to eat at any given time.

That's not my set of priorities. I'll take something that tastes better, even if it requires a little effort on my behalf to prepare. I'll take recognizable flavors instead of approximations of them any day.

>>7949636
>do you really find the former so hard to believe?

In the case of oats? Yes. They're just rolled or steel cut. They are not treated in some weird Chemical X acid bath and then re-built with Chinese industrial waste, or whatever fantasy conspiracy we're entertaining here.

>>7949645
Rolled oats are rolled oats. Steel cut oats are steel cut.

You might want to look at the actual process that corn goes through to become cornflakes; it might surprise you.

For that matter, there is very little actual process in making something Weetabix or Shredded Wheat.

SOME cereals are highly processed; Fruit Loops or Trix are clearly nothing like whole grains, and rightly deserve the label of "artificial". The problem is you're tarring with a very wide brush, and it undermines any point you're trying to make.

>>7949647
>In the case of oats? Yes. They're just rolled or steel cut
Exactly. How is the corn in your cornflakes treated? Milled corn is a decent start if you like corn. Sugar is a bit much for breakfast, but whatever. Malt flavor? Well who doesn't like their corn a little malty? BHT? Nope. You can put in as many vitamins and minerals after that as you like, but first explain why in any universe I would choose to eat BHT for fucking breakfast? There's absolutely no reason for me to eat that ever, if I can avoid doing so.

>>7949692
>How is the corn in your cornflakes treated?

It is soaked and then rolled.

>BHT

Oh I'm sorry I live in a free country, we don't add BHT to our cornflakes. Whoops, maybe that explains the argument? I live in a country with laws against feeding people industrial waste.

>>7949647
>In the case of oats? Yes. They're just rolled or steel cut. They are not treated in some weird Chemical X acid bath

Right. That's if you buy a bag of just plain oats. No mystery shit there.

But a processed cereal doesn't contain those same, plain, oats. Many of them have the oats processed further in the production process of the cereal.

>>7949352
I love my homebaked chocolate chip cookies but fuck me if i won't tear into a bag of tim-tams given the chance

>>7949717
Living in the States you have to be super on guard when it comes to industrially produced food, because the producers almost always put bullshit into it. If you don't want to eat stuff like BHT you're pretty much not buying anything made by General Mills, Kellogg's, Post, Nabisco, Keebler, Kraft and their ilk. You're buying ingredients and making your own stuff, which tastes better anyways if you know what you're doing.

>>7949518
Conversely, generally the last, most advanced step in the production chain adds the most value. This means your time is best spent on that step. In foods this means buying whole, raw ingredients and cooking them - for many people the return on investment in money saved and quality gained is worth the value of their time.

For people with a very low time value, or who find these activities fun, fishing, hunting and gardening are economical. At the absolute bottom of the scale is farming grains - economies of scale absolutely win there every time, even if you really enjoy driving a combine, because the cost per unit is so low that the cost of capital makes a huge difference.