What up, see-kay? Going to New York on my honeymoon this month.

>>7943491
Momofuku milk bar birthday cake truffles are great!
St. Anselm get the tea brined chicken
cafe mogador
Restaurant Nippon get the Beef Negimayak
Xi'an Famous Foods
Bon Chon Chicken
2nd ave deli

Definitely check out La Morada in Mott Haven

>honeymoon in NYC

why?

>>7943529
Because they want to visit the greatest city in the world.

also where are you from?

>>7943529
as much as I love NYC, it seems like an odd place to honeymoon

>>7943537
>>7943529
We're both theater geeks from the midwest, and one thing we have in common is that we've both been to NYC before, but didn't see a show on Broadway the first time we were there. This is our plan to right that wrong.

And, of course, New York has some of the best eats in the country. Thing are going well for us financially at the moment, so why not treat ourselves?

>>7943564
No that's cool, NYC is great to visit but I thought honeymoons were traditionally in low key kind of places.

Be sure to check out the nightlife too, the bars close at 4AM which is pretty cool.

What kind of foods would you like to try?

>>7943573
I'm not so much a stickler on certain types of food. I just care that, whatever the category, it should be done well. The people making it should actually give a shit. We're not looking for anything super-fancy. It just has to be well made by people who care. And we're open to all foods, regardless of nationality.

>>7943587
understandable

I think you should check out a Oaxacan restaurant called "La Morada", it's highly regarded and relatively inexpensive

Any non-food activities you're interested in, aside from the Broadway show?

>>7943515
>St. Anselm get the tea brined chicken

If you're waiting for St. Anselm, get the blade for two

>>7943603
Fiancee mentioned something about a tour of Yankees Stadium. Neither of us are Yankees fans, so it seemed odd to me, but whatevs. I like baseball, I like history, so let's do it.

We're also into art museums. I'm sure there's a few we need to check out while we're in town.

>>7943515
I had fried chicken from a place called Root and Bone and it was marinated in sweet tea I think, that was the best damn fried chicken I've ever had

>>7943612
Go to the The Metropolitan Museum of Art

>>7943612
>We're also into art museums. I'm sure there's a few we need to check out while we're in town.

You can spend days at the Met.

MOMA and Guggenheim are also must sees.

If you want to combine food and art, I recommend Cafe Sabarsky. It's in an Austrian art museum, and is pretty much a Vienesse cafe.

>>7943564
>why not treat ourselves?
Get a reservation at Mission Chinese. Go bar hopping in the EV, and eat at Downtown Bakery (Mexican). Au Za'atar and Babu Ji in the EV are good, too. Then there's Russ and Daughters' Cafe and Katz's, which are touristy old school Jewish NYC icons on the LES, but they're good nonetheless. Lombardi's is the pizza version of the same idea.

If you have to eat in midtown the Korean joints on 32nd St can be fun.

And get a burger at Joe Jr.

Beyond that you might want ramen (plenty of good choices) and to spend some time wandering around Chinatown.

>>7943612

yeah there are a lot of museum's and they're generally inexpensive. I've been to few that were cool but I can't remember the names off the top of my head.

Edit: the poster above me mentioned one of them, The Metropolitan Museum of Art

You're better off actually seeing a Yankee game in my opinion, perhaps they'll be versing your home team during your visit.

You should also try out some guilty pleasures stuff, a bacon egg and cheese sandwich is a New York classic

>>7943634
Yes I second Barhopping in the East Village, as well as the Lower East Side

Where will you guys be staying?

>>7943653
Z NYC in Long Island City, Queens.

>>7943673
oh cool, Queens has a lot of cool food stuff easily accessible from Long Island City

Thanks everyone! You've proven that 4chan actually has some decent people about.

No chains is EZ tier. Hardmode would be chains only.

Inexpensive:
Xi'an Famous
Soup dumplings from Shanghai Cafe/The Bao/Joe's Shanghai
Chicken over rice from a halal cart (I personally think the Halal Guys on 53rd are meme tier but they're the most famous)
Pizza (Prince St. Pizza/Joe's/John's of Bleecker/literally so many choices here)
Mamoun's Falafel
Bacon Egg and Cheese on a roll (from a bodega)
Corner Bistro/Burger Joint/I'd say Umami burger is better than both but you said no chains
Katz's is a must
Bagel from Russ & Daughters/Bagel Bob's/Black Seed/Ess-A-Bagel/Murray's Bagels
I think Ippudo has better ramen than Momofuku, but Momofuku has better pork buns
Los Tacos No. 1 in Chelsea Market
Earl's Beer and Cheese if you find yourself on the UES
Veselka
Pommes Frites

Splurge:
Hill Country Barbecue
Gotham Bar and Grill
Perla
Minetta Tavern's Black Label Burger
Gabriel Kreuther
Wasn't super impressed by the food at Mission Chinese but the drinks are amazing
Chef's Club
Kang Ho Dong Baekjong
Keen's Steakhouse
Peter Luger's
Nougatine at Jean Georges

Gonna stop there for now. It would really help if you could be more specific about what you're looking for because there are literally thousands of options. Pizza, bagels, and chicken over rice are better here than pretty much anywhere else in the country/world so I'd make sure to hit those (plus they're cheap).

>>7943738
How is Los Tacos? I've been meaning to go there?

Also, have you tried Udon West? I think it's pretty good.

>>7943738
>Keen's Steakhouse
>Peter Luger's

Honestly, St. Anslem's blows both out of the water. It's a pain because they don't take reservations, but if you're willing to chill next door for a while it's probably the best steak in the US right now.

>>7943761
oops, 2nd question mark was unintended

>>7943491
If you want a REAL good NY slice you HAVE to go to sbarro's my friend,you won't regret it.

>>7943799
Kek

>>7943491
Hotel Tortuga
MUD trucks
Wafels and Dinges
Mamouns
Saigon Shack
Five Napkin Burger
Mumbles
99 miles

Shake Shack (the one in Madison Sq Park is the first)

you said no chains but I couldn't resist.

>>7943818
is hotel tortuga authentic or is it gringo-mex?

>>7943673
Queens is also worth a bit of exploring. Definitely grab some Greek food while there, and there's good Mid East food there too.

>>7943865
and South American, Chinese, Indian, and Mexican

>>7943869
Yeah I was only there a few days and didn't get to try enough places to eat 2bh. Easily most diverse place I've ever seen.

>>7943878
hell yeah, parts of Queens, really most of Queens,are super diverse

it's funny that there are retards on 4chan who think diversity/multiculturalism are destined to fail, then you spend time in Queens and see that's not true

macdonals

>>7943515
Bonchon is a chain
Xian is a chain
Momofuku is (a) arguably a chain and (b) mediocre as fuck

The rest I either don't care about, don't disagree with, or have not been to
>>7943529
Because not everyone is a shut-in sperg who gets triggered by proximity to strangers, loud noises, the sight of a brown person, or food that costs more than "free because my mommy slips it under the door between temper tantrums"

>>7943612
definitely check out the whitney, the balconies connecting the upper floors are great during the summer and you get a gorgeous view of chelsea and the hudson

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I was just in NYC and went to Totto Ramen in Hells' Kitchen. It was super good and had a cool ramen house vibe.

>>7944541
>"free because my mommy slips it under the door between temper tantrums"

kek

>>7943761

Beats the ones I've had in LA and Mexico, honestly. Would not hesitate to call it the best taco in NYC. Haven't been to Udon West.

>>7943770

Haven't been there yet, but it's been on my list. Hope you're right about this place because ever since I learned how to make a good steak at home restaurant steaks haven't been all that impressive.

>>7944541

These are pretty NYC area specific chains though

>>7944551

The new Whitney is beautiful. The Guggenheim, MoMa, and the Met are all world class too.

>>7943491

Depends what you want to get. My friend has brought me to this little place in china town called Shanghai cafe.
Get some soup dumplings and jelly fish salad. It's really good and cheap. If I remember right the menu is only in Chinese tho

>>7945145
It's not Chinese only
Also congrats on being the first non-NYer in the history of this board to actually mention a Chinese restaurant in Chinatown by name, it's always "muh hole in the wall" because being a racist tard is moar authentic

>>7943770
St. Anslem is indeed amazing. Their hanger steak is delicious and the price is great for what you get. Fette Sau across the street has amazing BBQ as well. Shame that area is full of huge pussy hipsters though.

>>7945182
Well the hipsters have been priced out of Williamsburg for a while now, but they still hang out there

>>7945253
Huh?

>>7945257
Williamsburg isn't really the hipster capital anymore, it is now Bushwick

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If you aren't lmaopoorfaggots you should splurge on a dinner at Del Posto. It's the fanciest place I've ever been to, and I will always use it as a benchmark for 'niceness' until I am fortunate enough to experience something nicer.

>>7943634
Do you live around there, anon? I live in Harlem and I don't get around to the east side as often as I should.

I went to this small place in the EV that made awesome Cacio e Pepe in the pecorino wheel and everything, but they only took AmEx and cash for what its worth.

OP, if you ever find yourself in East Harlem, please make sure you go to Patsy's on 1st and 117th. Get a slice or two at the side door and eat on someone's stoop, or go in and get a cheese pie for like 10 bucks. True old school pizza from the 30's back from when East Harlem was Italian.

>>7945487
If OP isn't too scared to leave white Manhattan, lol

>>7945832
>white Manhattan
He lives in Harlem, no leaving needed

>>7945872
I thought you were talking to OP, who is from the Midwest

That was a joke but in all seriousness OP, don't be afraid to go to places that are majority minority

>>7945872
I live north of 125th, man. Not many whiteys like myself here.

>>7945882
Anywhere west of Broadway above 170th or so is white folks majority

Ergo, you live below 170 or east of Broadway

>>7945882
Do you feel like anti-gentrification groups and their propoganda lead to black people in your neighborhood resenting you?

>>7945921
>tfw no thicc booty Dominican gf from Waahington Heights

>>7943515
momofuku sux fgt

>>7945930
>washingtong height
Ftfy

>>7945921
Well yeah, I said I lived In Harlem, not Inwood or Washington Heights. I live close to Harlem Hospital, so it's pretty much right in the middle.

>>7945927
You know, I'm an Urban Planner, so I've studied a lot about this subject and it was a worry of mine when I first moved here, but the people where I live are some of the nicest and friendliest people I've ever known here.
2 weeks after I moved, people in my building and at my local stores and restaurants recognized me and some even knew my name. There are the occasional guys with megaphones doing the whole Nation of Islam Malcom X shit that have yelled at me, but they are pretty much restricted to 125th street and the Malcom X mosque on 116th.

>>7943491
Momofuku

>>7945942
Kek

>>7945946
Yeah as long as you don't snitch on people for being loud or smoking weed, I don't think people really have a problem

Harlem has white folk for years now anyway, and rent is even going up in NYC neighorhoods with no white people.

I wish I could love in the South Bronx and suck Puerto Rican and Dominican girls' asses

>>7943515
Momofuku is a meme, wouldn't advise.

Everything else seems good. Looked up St. Anselm, looks amazing.

If you have the money, Wolfgangs steakhouse. Get a reservation now. If not Peter Lugers

go to a ghetto ass bodega and order a fat sandwich

hey guys I'm going to NYC next week for vacation and I got an airBNB off University Ave and W174th st, is this a safe area?

>>7946954
West Bronx is OK. Kind of out of the way and not that convenient for subway access. Really cheapin' out, eh? Hotels in NYC are the cheapest they've been in a while, you can get a hotel in Chelsea for ~120.

>>7946983
Well I'm really just gonna sleep there so it's not a huge deal

I'm not cheap but I'd rather spend the money on other stuff

We might be coming home late at night though, will it be safe to walk home from the nearest subway station? I think it's relatively close to the 4 train.

Is it loud? My wife's son has trouble sleeping with loud noises.

>>7946990
Are you actually with a kid, or are you being an ebin memer? That part of the city is really quiet at night, but I think it definitely depends if you are ground floor or have a window facing the street, it should be safe before midnight, although I would minimize looking like a tourist, don't carry a camera.

>>7947051
Yes, my wife has a 6 year old son. I'm not quite sure where the apartment is situated, as long as it's not super loud (people blasting music at 3AM) he should be fine.

We won't really stand out aside from being white maybe.

I wonder if there are any neat food places near my airbnb though, it's hard to tell from google maps alone.

>>7945271

Yeah - old Williamsburg hipster here, now a yuppie in Bed-Stuy. Hipsters really stopped being a thing in 2008, at least in Williamsburg, because Manhattan decided they liked what hipsters did to neighborhoods and bought it all up.

>>7945182
Fette Sau is the same group as St Anslem, as is Speutenduvel, which if you're a beer nerd is incredible.

Fette Sau is not as good as it was 6 years ago though - it's like these guys can do ONE restaurant really well at a time. But still worth a visit.

>>7946874

This has already been dealt with. St Anslem, but you will have to wait. Having been to every famous steakhouse in NYC except Delmonico's, Anslem is the clear leader.

>>7946990
>Well I'm really just gonna sleep there so it's not a huge deal

Meh, you'll spend an hour or more each way on the subway. It's why people I know move to the Bronx, then immediately move back to the tri-boroughs.

If you're visiting, btw, do NOT carry a paper subway map. While NYC is safer than almost any place in the US, it still marks you as a tourist immediately. And the out of the way parts are very block by block - one block is fine, the next is not.

Use Google Maps, or download City Mapper instead. It'll do step by step anyways, and you won't get lost.

>>7947076
the subway stations all have maps from what I hear. I researched it anyway though, and it seems pretty easy.

I don't think where I'm staying is too terribly far from Midtown Manhattan, the 4 runs express once it gets to Manhattan.

>>7947076
>NYC is safer than almost any place in the US
HAHAHAHAHAHA
FULL fucking damage control

>>7947076
The South Bronx is no further from Manhattan than Western Brooklyn/Western Queens

Mott Haven is probably going to be gentrified in about 10 years or so

>>7947083
It's one of the safest big cities in the country, behind only San Diego.

Your only knowledge of NYC must be from Taxi Driver, or you're a sheltered white kid on Long Island whose parents tell you NYC is bad.

>>7947063
Every block is different about annoying neighbors, so keep that in mind and consider earplugs as an emergency option. Can't stop the noise of sirens, and you're somewhat close to I-95, one of the busiest interstates in the US.

Also, be careful about relying totally on the 4 train, as every weekend its been fucked up. Always know how to hail a cab, or at least have Uber on your phone.

>>7947083
>FULL fucking damage control
full ignorance

>>7947088
I might just take uber here and there, I don't think it will be too expensive.

So to my understanding, the demographics of this neighborhood is predominately Dominican, are you familiar with that cuisine at all?

>>7947087
>The South Bronx is no further from Manhattan than Western Brooklyn/Western Queens

Depends what you mean by Manhattan, I guess. If you're going to midtown, sure. If you're doing the EV/LES, or even Williamsburg/Rest of Lland, it gets pretty far.

>>7947088
Yeah I have family in Kensington Brooklyn, it's a very safe neighborhood but there are sirens at night all the time. It doesn't really bother me, but someone only used to the suburbs might be annoyed by it.

>>7947083

So is it you flyovers are fully aware you could never afford to live here, and are protecting your egos by pretending it's dangerous?

Or are you just a huge bunch of pussies that think seeing a non-white is being assaulted?

Either way, you're not good at stats it seems.

>>7947101
Yeah I mean Midtown and the UES

It's probably not even that bad of a trip to Union Square/EV

Shit, I went from Kensington to Mott Haven once and I didn't think it was THAT bad

>>7947087
>Your only knowledge of NYC must be from Taxi Driver

>implying one day a real rain won't come and wash away all the filth. And pile it up on Staten Island.

>>7947106
Probably both. Their perception of NYC is stuck in 1985, plus they might be racist and butthurt about the presence of minorities.

The Bronx is underrated as fuck, buying property in the parts closer to Manhattan would be very smart.

>>7947113
When I moved to Harlem, my grandparents were worried about me, because the last time they went to NYC was in fucking 1970 in a station wagon.

>>7947122

Meh, I'm waiting to buy myself, but I think everywhere in the 5 boroughs is overpriced right now.

The average rent is way above the average salary, to a psychotic degree. You also are beginning to see the luxury market top out of demand, as more buildings are coming online.

To me that means you'll have the political will to upzone massively, along with a big chunk of supply coming online. Which means prices fall, and lots of speculators panic sell. And that's when I want to buy.

>>7947132
haha I'm sure they were petrified

The funny thing is that those people who white flighted themselves out of NYC are now mostly stuck in boring suburbs, while the neighborhoods they moved out of are now up and coming, and have higher property values than most of the suburbs.

>>7947134
I kinda think it's all overpriced too, however if you were to buy a place in say, Melrose it would probably be a good investment.

I don't think it's gonna get any cheaper overall, I just think the higher end might cool off a little.

>>7947145
Yeah, I get you. However, sticking it out in places like Harlem in the 70's and 80's was really really tough because of the riots and the unreal amount of crime.

Also, don't forget "Ladies and gentlemen, the Bronx is burning"

>>7947083
t. flyover whose streets are patrolled by APC

>>7947097

Uber in the city is more expensive than anywhere else I've seen. Wouldn't rely on it unless you're Mister Moneybags.

>>7949171
The other day I took an uber from Kensington to Flatbush and it was less than 5 bucks

But I'm sure going from Manhattan to anywhere else will be expensive.

I recommend taking the subway whenever possible if you're not a pussy or in terrible shape.

What are some good spots for West Indian food?

>>7950266
Maybe Mount Vernon. Ozone Park. Just, the kinds of places that take forever to get to, that you kind of regret going to once you're there.

>>7950266
>>7950298
What about Flatbush? It's pretty easy to get to if you live in Brooklyn or Lower Manhattan

There's a place in Nolita called Prince St. Pizza. It sells pizza by the slice, you should stop in and get a slice. It's really good.

>>7943894
Eh, I wouldn't call Queens a paragon of multicultural success. I just meant it's truly diverse, as opposed to a place that's 70% X, 15% Y, and 15% Z.

I'm sure Queens is full of social problems typically associated with multiculturalism. And then there are the very numerous examples of "multicultural" places that have much worse social problems. And then there are places like Japan and Norway, which are objectively far better than most any "diverse" place.

It's a fascinating place, but I certainly wouldn't call it evidence that fostering multiculturalism is preferable to being like Japan and Norway.

>>7950301
>Flatbush
Like I said, the kind of place that you regret going to once you're there.

>>7950315
Queens's social problems are largely limited to low income areas with higher than average crime, which have nothing to do with multiculturalism.

And the Norway and Japan example is dumb, first of all Japan is not for everyone and has a shitty work culture, second, a place like Belarus is also homogenous (and white) but still a shithole.

>>7950331
What? I've been there a million times it's, fine.

Parts of it are even really gentrified now.

>>7943491
I've never been to New York but enjoyed these shows about it:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xo2jbj_the-layover-s01e02-new-york_travel

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2iis2a

>>7950332
>Queens's social problems are largely limited to low income areas with higher than average crime, which have nothing to do with multiculturalism.

This is a wild assumption--the idea that those problems have nothing to do with multiculturalism.

And you didn't even begin to disprove the point about Japan and Norway.

>Japan is not for everyone and has a shitty work culture.
Really? That's the best you can come up with? It's still literally 100 times better than diverse places that don't have a "shitty work culture." Better to have a stressful work culture than super high crime, terrible health care, etc. etc. Shouldn't have to even point that out.

Congrats on at least being aware that Belarus is monocultural and still shitty. But that just means monoculturalism doesn't dispositively ensure high quality of life. Certainly doesn't prove diversity is conducive to high standards of living, as Belarus is an exception instead of a trend.

The weight of your social engineering has smothered your logic.

Vic's.

>>7950479
I tip my fedora to you, Ken-Sama

>>7950479
alt-right nonsense

Nobody into Walter Foods here?
great food and kick ass cocktails

What are some good bars in Lower Manhattan?

I've been to many and I like most of them, but there must be some gems that I'm not aware of.

I like

>mixed crowd
>lively but not too packed
>relatively inexpensive
>dingy

>>7950522
naturally you can't muster a logical argument based on evidence--given that diverse places like Brazil, Baltimore, etc. are objectively awful or less than first world 98% of the time--so you have to use a blanket insult. I'm not even "conservative," which is what you must mean by "alt-right."

This is a logical truth set apart from a conservative's or liberal's political agenda.

>>7945940
>>7946868
wat
I can understand not liking noodle bar or their other "normal" restaurants but the snacks at milk bar are GOAT

Have you even tried them or are you just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian?

>>7950540
Baltimore and Brazil are shitty for completely different reasons, though.

Baltimore isn't really diverse, it's mostly black and white neighborhoods segregated from each other.

My house :)

I will make my Oh Baby sauce for you

It has a good, rich taste. Two very, small meaty balls.

:)

Come to my house, the sign out front says to come try my sauce.

I will pour my sauce on you both -- haha, a joke. Pour it on your taste buds, that is.

>>7950548
No, they're church bake sale tier desserts, with edgy names, served in a "hip" setting. Nobody who has eaten many desserts made by a top-tier pastry chef could be impressed by it.

On some level you'd expect a dessert place associated with a michelin-starred restaurant operation to be serving desserts at a superior level, right? Wrong. What you'd get is a fucking cliff bar that someone took out of the package and put in a new package with LMAO SMOKE BATH SALTS K-K-K-KRAZY KID'S SHOULD DO DRUGS stamped on it.

If it wasn't for all the hype I wouldn't be mad, but people talked it up like it was something special, so I went out of my way to go there, and that's what it was. Sorry you can't deal.

>contrarian contrarian contrarian
You're that guy who calls anyone who disagrees with him a "contrarian" aren't you. As if the contrarian isn't the person claiming cliff bars with edgy names are actually good.

>>7950557
It may help for you to understand the guy's reasoning to know that racist shitheads usually consider "diverse" and "not white" to mean the same thing

>>7951290
>gets that badly triggered by naming something "crack pie"
Fucking pathetic.

>>7951366
Hi Christina, isn't it time for your morning jog? I recommend the path along the weeds on the Belt Parkway :^)

p.s. ur cookies suck

>>7951290
>Nobody who has eaten many desserts made by a top-tier pastry chef could be impressed by it.

no shit, that's not the point

>>7951371
So what is the point? To separate fools from their money? It's doing a great job of that.

>>7951384
Well it's New York after all.
I was talking about the snacks, I don't care much for their desserts, although I did somewhat enjoy the crack pie.

Also I went there when it was still pretty new, it wouldn't be that surprising if it had a drop in quality.

>>7951407
I went there within the first year it was open, but honestly, what "quality" was ever there to drop? Now you're just gonna say "oh but I was there before it was opened officially", yeah just fuck off, it was never good

>>7951424
Have you tried the veggie bun and the bagel bomb?
They're fucking amazing.

>>7951428
Oh now you're gonna nitpick and say I didn't have the right thing
Sorry
Not falling for it Christina

>>7951432
I was just making suggestions, there's no need to be upset.
If you hate it that's your prerogative but I still find it silly to talk shit about everything when you actually tried only a couple things.

>>7950498
>Vic's

Vic's is a great neighborhood spot, but not a must do if you're only going to be here for a few days.

>>7950536

Not gonna give up my favorite dive bars to the sperglords of 4chan

>>7943491
Katz deli

21 club