#1 Restaurant in the World Thread

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The legendary chef, Rene Redzepi, making an Asparagus and Spruce dish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqwtWBVKons

>>7903599
there is literally nothing wrong with this

>>7903607
Quality ingredients handled perfectly by talented chef.

>>7903609
yes, I agree, except for the sarcasm.

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Edible soil made up of beer, butter, malt, and hazelnut + herb cream and radishes with stems climbing high out of the pot.

>>7903613
I'm not being sarcastic, me and my cousin are planning to eat at Noma.

Here's the changing menu
http://noma.dk/food-and-wine/

>>7903618
fair enough. I've had some friends eat there, they said it was a very interesting experience.

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Aebleskiver and Muikku

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>>7903622
>tfw it's not æbleskive sæson

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>>7903622
> muikku
Little, almost trash tier fish that is commonly served during summer from paper boxes as a fried snack.
Somehow that dry little fish in pastry ball is more expensive than whole meal worth of those delicious little shits

>>7903717
it's one of roughly 20 meals, probably with some wicked seasoning and an exhaustive selectioning process.

>>7903621
its because its so fucking expensive they dont want to be seen as if they got memed

>>7903599
I got a couple pine trees in the back if they need more of those

>>7903757
they're so fucking rich though, they regularly go to high end restaurants

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Fresh Peas and Fermented Peas, Aromatic Tea Broth

>>7903757
More than 900 chefs voted for Noma to be #1. And everyone who actually ate at the restaurant said it was a pleasant experience.

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Brown Crab, Egg Yolk, and Herbs

People actually pay money for this shit?

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Oyster complemented by seaweed oil, gooseberry, and buttermilk

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Tartar and Sorrel, Juniper, and Tarragon

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Pike Perch and Cabbages, Verbena, and Dill

The amount of work that goes into each plate is actually insane

>>7903599
do you eat the pine? i think fine dining is cool and all, but i dont think inedible stuff really belongs on the plate

>>7904759
wtf

>>7906581
https://youtu.be/JFunPVsuW9Y?t=10m4s

>"Can we eat the pine leaf"
>"Please push the big pine leaves to the side."

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Rhubarb and Milk Curd

>>7906596
what's even the point then? he didn't even really flavor anything with it. noma really gives fine dining a bad rep i think

>>7906606
I think the chef explains it here >>7903601

He's pretty honest about how and why he prepares the food the way he does.

>>7904759
The plating was way better when I was there three years ago. This is just a stupid smear and neither appetizing nor convenient.
I bet it tastes incredible though.

The irony is that you were probably trolling the /ck/ challenge on the basis that people were judging food that they weren't able to taste.

I'm guessing you've never been to a high end restaurant and regularly post in tipping threads.

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>>7906611
I don't go on /ck/ that much, and don't go to restaurants that much. But I'm excited about going to Noma.

>>7906609
shit didn't even notice that, makes more sense now

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>>7906600

WTF. You must be fucking kidding me. How much does this shit cost?

I guarantee everyone leaves this place looking for another joint to fill the other 9/10s of their stomach...

>>7906632
I think Noma looks like bull most of the time but if you think you leave fine dining restaurants hungry, you've not been to many.

9/10 if you go to a Michelin starred restaurant, you will be stuffed. The food more often than not is extremely rich and the gaps in the courses slow your appetite down.

>>7906632

>i'm a poor loser who's never experienced a high end restaurant in my life and am resentful about it on an anonymous image board
>blah blah blah

Every.Fucking.Time.

>>7903599
A friend of mine at there recently, he told me it was pretty good but of course a bit pretentious. It's affordable as well if you compare how many dishes you get even with a wine pairing. I wouldn't go because I'm not into Nordic cuisine so I probably would go to Osteria Francescana for the same amount of money. But you have to see this not as fine dining but as a one in a life time experience. Maybe I'll go in the winter.

>>7906632
>"My dad took me to Red Lobster once so I know about fine dining."

They serve you up to 20 dishes, currently 16. If you leave hungry, you probably consider a family size pizza a snack.

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>>7906614
All these things look so incredibly primitive.
As if they were foraging in a forest, and this is the best they could find to put on a plate.

I've had "Fine Dining" that was not this Nouvelle Cuisine bullshite... the chefs and sycophants pushing this garbage are charlatans and cheats.

>Noma is, as it has been compared to many times, a ballet, telling a riveting story full of comedy, drama, romance, and grace."

That B.S. is why I hate haughty "foodies" who blather on as if they are experts on the molecular structures of peas.

Me? I enjoy foods where the only "Story" my food tells is that it was seasoned and cooked well by someone that knows what they're actually doing.

If I order Cannard l'orange I better get half a duck, bones and all on a plate with a side of rstic fried potatoes.

If I'm instead served as tiny little wedge of duck meat balanced upon a single cube of potato... I swear I'm going to storm into the kitchen and fucking murder the "chef" who has the gall to pull such shit.

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>>7906973
You wouldn't murder anybody you fat pussy. And you don't go to a restaurant like noma to fill your fucking maw just like you don't go to the louvre to look for shit to hang in your basement

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>tfw my parents ate there with a friend this summer while I was busy with uni
I fucked up.

>>7903599
Are you supposed to eat the pine ?

I'm really confused, all those dishes look like what you'd get if you thought about parodying high-end restaurants. At the same time, I'm sure it tastes good.
Probably not my time of thing though.

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>>7907037

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I unironically long for the return of upscale dining with waiters in jackets or tuxedos.

>>7904759

How do you even eat that? You take a leaf and wipe up the sauce with it or what?

>>7907039
I think it was steamed with the pine purely for aromatic infusion/.

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$6 with fries

>>7906973

>As if they were foraging in a forest, and this is the best they could find to put on a plate.

that is pretty much exactly what noma is.

anyway, if you want your big plate of roasted meat, fine, go to a different restaurant, but you won't get the variety you get at a place with a tasting menu.

>>7904749
As much as dislike these kinds of restraunts. this aesthetic is wonderful

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wat

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>>7906614
I'd like to eat these. The rest looks like the cooks would jump out of the kitchen, point at you and laugh for ordering joke dishes from the menu.

the one thing at noma that really gets on my tits is the hen and the egg dish. that is the one thing they've done that makes me think it's a bit of an emperor's new clothes scenario.

it's such a patronising gesture and it's a gimmick. i don't think the dish would stand on its own without the whole process. but all the diner's doing is cracking a fucking egg. if there was some creative element to it i'd give it a pass, but it's not like you're encouraged to customise it in any way. you're just supposed to savour the privilege of watching a fucking egg you've cracked open sizzle on a hot plate. it's like it should be on the kid's menu or some shit.

getting the diner to participate in the meal can actually be a really cool thing, but ultimately who goes to a fine dining restaurant to eat a fucking fried egg with some woodsy liquor poured on top of it?

>>7907109
>food pics from japan
?

>>7907053

there's meat under the leaves, you just sort of drag it around the plate.

>>7906549
looks like cat sick

>>7907146
Yeah, maybe, but how did it actually taste?
Was it good?

>>7907389

and a million other things that are foamy.

>there are people on /ck/ right now that have and will continue to defend this

Come get your dinner you fucking "sophisticated" chu/ck/s

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>>7907422
whoops forgot pic

>>7906568

Fair bit of prep and plating, but from the point of order to serving it seems very tame to me because of the small portions. Generally one small heated part with few components which can be done in little time and off to plating. Easily parallelized, highly predictable timing, highly predictable work load.

Nothing wrong with that, but compared to getting multiple large dishes with large pieces of meat/fish done at nearly the same time it's easy.

>>7903599
Looks like the type of dish gays and society women would love.

>>7906639
Holy mother of projection!

>>7907500
that's not noma.

>>7907401
you think anon actually can afford visiting noma?
lmao

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>#1 restaurant in the world

Pic related, $9.07 at a store near you

>>7907543
why not?

>>7907556
Well it doesn't look very good and the composition isn't professional.

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>>7903599
I couldn't find any trace of food even with an electron microscope. People who "dine" here must all look so sophisticated.

>>7907563
so? they could serve it ironically.

>>7907549

anyone can afford visiting noma you pleb, it costs as much as a week's work on minimum wage.

>>7907558

'stealing leftovers' is actually an idea i could imagine some chefs running with. like heston blumenthal could put something like this out at the fat duck with the justification that it 'conjures memories of my childhood'

>>7907578
no? noma has integrity.

The Parts Unknown episode that features Noma is really fascinating, really incredible stuff

>>7907602
>Charging a fuckton for a plate of aspargus tied to pine trees branches is integrity

Ok

>>7903615
EDIBLE SOIL????!!!!!

This is some next level shit

>>7907609
>that's all they did xD

>>7907601

So are these leeks impregnated with something?

Otherwise once you peel the cancer off won't you be simply left with plain grilled leek?

>>7907615
I suppose they lightly cooked the aspargus, my bad

>>7907612

Seems like food poisoning waiting to happen.

it's all fun and games until you see how much it costs...

>>7907621
and created an oil and a vinegar specifically for it, as well as a spice mix

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>>7907627

it was a huuuuuuuuuge fad between 2 and 5 years ago. literally everybody was doing it.

>Seems like food poisoning waiting to happen.

are you joking

>>7907618

they're burnt, the inside is taken out and mixed with other shit, then put back in.

suggest your own noma creations lads

a blanched bat wing-encased spring roll filled with nettles from the car park with a smear of bear faeces on the plate.

>>7907645
there are almost no bats in denmark, or bears.

>>7907659

this is for a hypothetical pop-up in canada

>>7907665
how would you make bear feces appetizing and pleasant tasting?

>>7903599
lol okay, whatever those fags say. we just play along

no picture on the internet could remotely compare to how much I want to laugh at this

>>7907639

I took the "soil" thing as literal, with the plant actually being allowed to germinate in it, instead of a cutesy presentation ... which I find a bit beneath Noma.

>>7907679
Can you imagine Daym Drops or Joey getting all 20 plates of these things to go and reviewing each one in their car?

>>7907682

when the patrons ask if they should eat the bear faeces the waiters will be drilled to tell them to just look at it between bites.

>>7907693
that's not noma

>>7907692
it still has to be aesthetically pleasing.

>>7907703
many of these aren't

>>7907711
They can Dillute them slightly and swirl them around so it kind of looks like a chocolate mousse swirl

OP how much $$$ for the full dining experience?

And is it one of those places you have to reserve months in advance unless you're Jerry Seinfeld?

>>7907726
that'd look edible.

>>7907685

Disappointed that that's just a broken and reglazed plate ...

I thought they made the iceberg effect out of some kind of partly frozen foam.

>>7907682

"here in denmark, often we like to use manure to grow crops, and it is a natural habitat for mushrooms... we thought 'why take this manure, which has given so much life to our cuisine, and shared its aroma with the produce we use, and...almost, sort of disrespect it by not eating it?' so, we bathe it in lye, then slowly dry it in a controlled atmosphere until the maillard reaction occurs, and it creates this intensely rich flavour that easily rivals a slow roasted piece of meat but with so much complexity from the bacterial activity and an exchange of aromas with the plants. served alongside a selection of vegetable juices, you are tasting not only the traditional ingredients you are familiar with, but also the stuff which gave it life... it is a much more honest and comprehensive experience of nature"

>>7907645
Regular beef patties except they have a copy of Van Gogh's Starry Night carved into them and they are served with a secret sauce mix with 20 ingredients

>>7907751
that sounds so good, I wish I could afford it

>>7907751
if it's good that's literally fine

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>>7907768
A pan seared pile of cow feces?
Can't tell if serious.

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>welcome to Noma, heres your appetizer

>wala~

>>7907791
obviously not

>>7907799
The autism was telling me that you could be serious, but carry on.

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So if I take a tomato, burn the shit out of it with a torch, sprinkle salt on it, and then smoosh it onto a plate and lay a pine tree branch over it, I can call it "deconstructed deep dish za" and be on the same level as Noma?

>>7906632
fat
poor
reddit
american

fuck off

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>get invited to go to Noma with some friends
>bring a small bottle of Tabasco sauce to fuck with the chefs and waiters

>>7907834
that's not noma.

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>>7903622

This is what happens when you activate almonds in Finland.

>>7907962
that's not noma.

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>>7907911
lol

>>7906639
Excuse me, this is a Sicilian renaissance painting bbs, thank you very much.

>>7907549
>you think anon actually can afford visiting noma?
>lmao

The tasting menu is $300, expensive for sure but anyone with a job can afford it at least once.

Looks shit, what kind of retard pays money for this crap?

>>7907811

That looks good. Could do without the hay though.

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>not picking Nordisk Spisehus or Mash instead
Noma is obscure gone famous.

>>7908634
Menu itself is $280
Wine is (7-8 glasses) is $160
Non-alcoholic beverage 'menu' is $100

>>7908348

I can easily afford that.

Problem is, I can't blow 300 bucks just to say I ate at Noma without feeling like I should kick my own ass for being a pretentious asshole.

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>pay $500 to eat at Nomas

>get a fucking tree branch on a plate

get with the times, osteria francescana in modena is the #1 restaurant in the world now.

pine sap is pretty nasty. enjoy your "unexplained" colon cancer.

>>7903822
>food so good, the cook already ate it for you before serving you the bowl

>>7903826
chefs grading each others without external input is not really relevant. They only see the pro aspect of the product.

>>7906549
>spit on the plate
pretentious garbage.

>>7906637
you are served paintings, not food. Sorry but this is a fucking caricature or pretentious snob shit.

The replies in this thread.. No wonder 90% of the threads on /ck/ are about fast food/noodles/booze, you're all idiots. Are you even interested in food?

Overpriced pretentiout and overrated.

These are the guys giving fine dining a bad name.

Also : when the name of the restaurant is a synonym for mouth gangrene (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noma_(disease)) you know they're just taking the piss and testing how gullible the pseudo food elitists can be.

>>7903599
Food is an art, and this is the "Modern "Art"" of food.

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>>7907037
>apple blossoms
Those look like elderflowers

>>7907555
$9.07 is too much for that

>>7909829
>Are you even interested in food?

Yes, we are. We aren't interested in pine needles, flowers and burnt veggies. Special handmade oil/vinegar/spice on it or not.

>>7909829
>you just don't GET it
a smear of sauce on a plate isn't a dish. You are trying really ahrd to excuse being scammed. It's literally the king and the invisible gown story at work except with empty bowls.

>>7910025
agreed. What sort of shitty place sell this for more than 5 or 6 $?

>>7907500
MAGNIFIQUE

>>7907560

my cat regularly produces masterpieces like that

>>7904759
>leaves with a snail trail
yum

>>7907500
Should be garnished with a cut-up pizza box.

>>7906600
The plate looks dirty.

>>7907553
>ew, I hate capers
>wait, are those fucking insects?

>>7910072
kek

>>7903599
>pine
Clearly Norway spruce.

>>7906614
I've tried reindeer lichen before when I was doing forest surveys and thinking about caribou and how they basically live off the stuff.

It was basically unpalatable. I think this is a case of feeding anything to rich people and convincing them it is great haute cuisine.

>>7909814

i don't see how that stops them fairly choosing the best out of a selection

>>7910054

>the king and the invisible gown

always find it hilarious when someone botches an idiom this hard

>>7910205
>the king and the invisible gown
kek

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Wow all this """"artismal"""" food looks great guys. Allow me to give you my """artismal""" tip.

Having done the tasting menu at the slanted door...

I came away feeling that I paid $400 for a giant circle jerk.

Pretentiousness for the sake of pretense.

"look at ourselves, aren't we're so rich & high cultured"

I honestly would rather spend 1/4 that price at house of prime rib and eat until I explode.

>>7907084
>dude why would you go to uffizi if you could go watch some shitty local painter :^)

>>7907911
>put the tabasco sauce on everything before tasting it
>watch for reactions
I probably wouldn't shell out 500 bucks to do it, but more power to you

>>7910271

the slanted door doesn't have a tasting menu

>>7907645

tomato and strawberry blended and sundried on stones to heartshaped cookies , sprinkled with sugared waspwing and goldleaf served on a huge rope

>>7907679
or joey in het mickey mouse cap and dirty shirt in the restaurant

>>7906632
$300ish
+
$200ish for wine

So a single dine = $500ish

>>7910604
Do you leave full? I'm 150lbs and 6ft for reference. Moderate eater.

>>7909821
>I am a fucking faggot who hates nice things.
good for you? the rest of us don't see a need to pointlessly limit ourselves to only hot dogs and tendies when we can enjoy both the shit you eat and the good stuff we like.

>>7910624
Most places like this don't drop you a single plate, you're basically eating at least half of this stuff.

>>7906581
You can eat spruce bough though. The fresh tips in the spring are the best, but regular pine needles can be made into tea or mush too.

>>7910659
Pine needles are an abortifacient, I'm not sure what's up with spruce needles. Natives made a spruce needle tea full of vitamin C but I feel like consuming conifer needles regularly is a bad idea.

They are full of tannins and phenols and the like that function as anti-insect compounds.

>>7910669
I call this one "a single fire roasted green bean with leaves and flowers."

>>7910679
As a Scandinavian I very much doubt that since it has been used for food since pagan times. Googling it only turns up American ponderosa pines

Making pine needle tea and chewing the tips people do even outside the survivalism clique

>>7910738
and googling it only says you should avoid it if you have dysfunctional kidneys

>>7906610
>I bet it tastes incredible though.

Who gives a fuck if it tastes good if all you get is a lick of it off the plate

>>7911026
is that one fucking mussel

All the triggered fatties in this thread that are so upset that they shitpost these pics.

If you want to get your mony's worth of fat, salt and sugar, there are still enough burger kings in your flyover town.

>>7911034

yes, but you get a lot of empty shells to look at too

>>7910271
>Pretentiousness for the sake of pretense
What other sake would there be for pretentiousness, you fat dumbass?

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>>7911026
I'll have the single mussel on a plate of shells with a side of spruce branch and lichen. And I'll have the grass foam and rock for dessert - I shouldn't because I'm on a diet but this is a special occasion - I'm so bad!

Oh by the way, is the birch bark gluten free and how much sodium is in the deconstructed river stone souffle?

There was a "crackhouse or Vancouver manision" website. Someone should do a "garbage or Noma" game.

>>7906596
They ate the shrimp live. Jeez. Dont think I could do that

All that foamy junk looks like bile.

Noma should serve a venus fly trap.

>>7911083
terrible presentation

>>7911083
looks like a dog ate some grass and threw up on a plate

>>7911133
it literally looks exactly like that

>>7911114
Looks like what I spit out all day when i'm dehydrated/hungover.

>>7910639
lol 10/10

>>7907844
ttrriiggeerreeddd

>>7910639
hahahaah all of my kek

>>7910344
>>7910271
rekt

>>7910344
>the slanted door doesn't have a tasting menu
I was there in 2014 and yes, it does have a tasting menu. Most restaurants don't necessarily put "TASTING MENU" on their website/menu, which I'm assuming is where you checked.

This is hilarious.

>>7911203
I have spend many many hours looking at forest plants under a stereo microscope and conifer needles are absolutely crawling with mites and nematodes.

They are harmless, but its funny to think that these rich fucks are eating food crawling with organisms that would terrify them if they knew about it.

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im derailing this thread

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WTF? Is this a troll restaurant? Do these people eat rocks?

>>7911241
Now they're just taking the piss. Let's pick some fucking weeds from the garden and put them on the plate. Those ponces will love it.

>>7910166
That's part of the appeal uncultured swine

>>7909814
>They only see the pro aspect of the product.
And why is that not relevant all of a sudden? It's not ment to be your weekday diner. It's a chefs showroom and mad laboratory. That's the point. Your don't have to appreciate it. The target audience does that.

>>7903599
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""food""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

this isn't even interesting shit, if you aren't actually making real food you can at least bring in some chemists and make cool shit

>>7910663
For such an expensive restaurant, they sure can't even keep ants out of the food

>>7911320
The ants are an essential part of the dish, you pleb!

>>7910624
>150lbs and 6ft
>moderate eater
No you're not

Do people actually enjoy eating this shit, or do they just pretend to enjoy it to seem sophisticated?

>>7907629
>we put pine needles in a fucking blender and then threw the rest into a food processor with some salt, that'll be $300 plus tip

>>7911429

That's an onion inside a charred sweet potato?

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>>7911241

What are you actually supposed to eat here?

>>7909814
>without external input

why would experts give a shit about outsiders opinions?? It's not like scientists go around asking for input from lay people

>>7904749
why don't the potatoes count as part of the dish

>>7910625
Food isn't meant to be an art piece you fucking troglodyte. Any idiot that spends more than a few cents on this trash should have their money taken from them so they stop making such stupid decisions.

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>>7911429
>>7911432

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>Hey! You opened Nomas!

>Yes. Our biggest seller is Bean Pizza. Six kinds of beans, plus several things that look like beans.

>Beans, huh? Mmm. This is great! How to you make the crust so fizzy?

>Ah-ah-ah! Ancient Noma secret!

>My husband, some hotshot! Here's his ancient Cygnoid secret! Live hornets! We smush them right into dough!

>I don't care if there's horse manure in it!

>That's a-good!

Literally the Death Grips of food

>>7911513

So, did I get it right? What the hell is that?

Mark Twain has a funny saying about stuff like this

>>7911626
An onion. Baked at extreme heat so the peel turns to ash and the centre is baked. Common chef thing. Try placing a leek directly on your preheated (electric) stovetop until it's completely black and ashen, cut it open and eat the core baked and steamed in its own juices. It's awesome.

>>7911641

Interesting, it must get that slightly-charred-but-sweet taste

>>7911225
>that pasta contraption
Is it 1994?

Anyway, I love these threads so much.

>>7911501

Those are rocks.

>>7903599
>people are actually defending this meme of a restaurant
>i didn't realize /ck/ was actually an abbreviation for cuck

>Food is not art
>It can be filling, cultural, historical, traditional, rustic, really any variety of emotions and sensations, but it is still supposed to be sustenance
>anything that doesn't fulfill that last category isn't food.

>>7907084
honestly as shitty as this is, its better than almost everything already posted

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The guys in charge at Nomas are fucking geniuses.

>walk out behind restarunt
>pull branch off tree and pick some rocks up off the side of the road
>bring them inside
>go out and find some ants and put them in a jar
>throw rocks and branches on platter
>put dollop of sweetened sour cream in the middle of the platter
>smoosh the ants into the cream
>bring out "appetizer" and charge out the ass for it
>laugh in the back room counting your stacks of money as hipsters and foodies post on all their blogs about how fucking amazing your food is

>>7907139
You don't order it, they just send it out to you.

>>7910624
There are around 20 different courses.

>>7911714
lol, I mean, it does come off that way, doesn't it?

Whats with all the fucking ants?

I'd tug on the waiters sleeve and say "Excuse me, your guys pantry seems to have an infestation".

This is fucking stupid.

>>7907751

Underrated post

Ive been to noma


Absolutely insane experience. By far the best meal Ive had in my life, everything tastes fucking amazing, and they are so fucking dedicated to their concept and philosophy.

The hate here is hilarious, it just goes to show that people love to comment on shit they have no clue about

>>7907607
Scandinavian coconut!

Fucking legend

>>7911741
t.shill

>>7911204

Sure, sure.

>Google image search noma
>Just get pictures of black kids with really fucked up mouths

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>>7911741

>their concept and philosophy

>>7907751

Too spot on for life

still love noma though

>>7911458
Because pleasing their client is part of their jobs as a chef. When that's not an issue and you only listen to similarly pretentious fucks you end with inedible shit like carbonized onions or ants on shaving cream.

>>7911762
I know, its hard for you to imagine that someone truly cares about what they do, or have a notion of passion, but try at least

>>7911790
God, you are such a moron. If you dont want to eat at noma then shut the fuck up and enjoy your steak and chip restaurants or wherever the fuck you go to be a miserable person.

You dont go to noma to eat a hamburger. But im afraid youll have to accept that thousands of people, critics and chefs have been to noma and fucking loved it.

You go there to get stuff served their way, not yours

>>7911762

Foraging for ingredients then experimenting with ways to showcase their unique qualities and the environment in which they're found, without excessive use of fat or thickeners or whatever, as a way of helping you appreciate the edible ecology of the local landscape, is a quite clear and direct concept.

I don't think you could possibly argue that what they do at noma is lazy or disrespectful to the diner - it can be a bit patronising and sanctimonious though

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>>7907563
I am reminded of a movie called Art School Confidential that I had the displeasure of being compelled to sit through.

There's a scene in the movie where one student produces a very basic art piece that is highly acknowledged by his peers, and another student sees this and replicates the first's style exactly. It's to the point that during presentation the two art works are identical.

The peer group praised the first student's work and tore the second a new asshole, even though both products were identical in every way, only because they had advanced knowledge of which piece came from which student. The critiques had no other basis. For added insult the praised student was actually not even an art student, he was a plant from a local police department investigating shit on campus.

What I'm trying to say is, if you took a dish from a Noma chef and held it side by side against a dish that was physically identical in absolutely every way but created by some nobody in his home kitchen, you would praise the plate from Noma and your assessment of the home dish would be either: god what a phony and uninspired dish, awww look at the troglodyte trying that's sweet, the important elements are there but this simply isn't as robust as what Noma creates. Or, a combination of the three. It doesn't have to make sense it just needs to have a sufficient amount of cognitive dissonance.

>>7911829
Being very clear about a bad concepts doesn't make it any less of a bad concept.

>>7911811
>You go there to get stuff served their way, not yours
At any other place without the hundreds USD$ price tag it would have been considered as bad customer service.

>>7911848
>and another student sees this and replicates the first's style exactly
Have you considered that he got belittled for being a plagiarizer?

Whats the front of house staff like at Noma? Do they do anything cool?

>>7911849
>At any other place without the hundreds USD$ price tag it would have been considered as bad customer service.

Why? No one is forcing you to eat anywhere, you can go wherever the fuck you like, to eat what you like.

So why would you go to a place you dont like, and then be a fucking asshole about it?

>>7911849
The customer, in your case, is wrong

If you want it "your way" you can go to MacDonald's

>noma defense force ACITVATE

>>7911829
>I don't think you could possibly argue that what they do at noma is lazy or disrespectful to the diner - it can be a bit patronising and sanctimonious though

...........

>I don't think you could argue that what they do at Noma is disrespectful
>it can be a bit patronizing and sanctimonious

>I don't think what they do at Noma is disrespectful
>I think what they do at Noma is patronizing and sanctimonious

What qualifies as disrespectful behavior in your book, exactly?
How does one say "I'm not saying x is true, but x is 100% true" with a straight face?

>>7911892
No man, that burger king you fuck up

>>7911849

i don't think what i described is in any way shape or form a 'bad concept'

>>7911968

if you consider that disrespectful then perhaps i just mean it in a different sense - i don't think they're taking advantage of the diner in order to fleece them. elaborate measures are taken to deliver a valuable product.