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Do you think there's an untapped market for lolita designs

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Do you think there's an untapped market for lolita designs on men's clothing?

I'll admit, I don't follow lolita culture at all really, but whenever I pass by a lolita vendor at a con I can't help but wish I had that design on a nice suit jacket.

I know male lolita and brolita exist but I'm sure there's some middle ground that's yet to be considered, what do you think?

I made this mock-up to give a rough example of what I mean, I wanted to put in a classical lolita design but I couldn't find any good pictures of just the fabric online.
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I fucking wish. I want to dress up with my husband and match but the only options are to make everything myself or buy shitty borderline steampunk clothes. Guys need cute things too.
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>>8746972
I can't even get ouji items with prints on them so I would kill for this.
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>>8746972
I think there'd definitely be an appeal. Lolita was subversive when it first happened and this would be subversive as well.
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Pretty sure floral patterns on men's suits are/were already a thing.
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>suit jacket
>with shorts

fuck men's fashion jfc
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Looks like you've found yourself a new business venture, OP. I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of shit boomed.
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OP here, if anybody has a design they want to see on the jacket then post it, I got the photoshop file open and I'm bored.
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>>8746991
pls

sans banana
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>>8746985
what skeletal disease does this poor model have
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>>8746994
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>>8746991
Please
please make it work
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>>8746994
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>>8747014
Wow I didn't realize how low resolution that was or how badly I erased, I'm tired.

>>8747001
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>>8747014
thanks anon

+cake for effort
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>>8747016
it's beautiful. Thank you
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>>8747014
Loving the bottom border. the top row seems a little weird. I'm thinking a small edge border just on the pocket area would be perfect, though.
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in one of the three colorways?
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>>8747022
Shit's way low res
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needs more sweet.
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>>8747028
Those look like fucking anteaters
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>>8747030
don't you dare insult poor derpy-chan like that
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>>8747028
Now we're talking
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>>8747035
thanks anon!! how about another /cgl/ design if you're up for it?
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>>8747040
forgot to attach file
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>>8747040
I'm uploading the psd file right now so other people can give it a try, but yeah i'll do one more before I have to get off.
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As a guy...
this shit looks gay as fuck.

*Maybe* if it's subdued. Maybe if it's monochrome like iron gate and used as a supporting element. But OTT sweet prints?

Fuck no.
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>>8747046
Yes, we are 100% legit about a derpy-chan suit jacket and in no way is this just fun. Thank you for understanding, male anon.
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>>8747046
>As a guy
as a guy i am loving anon's work

as a guy you are free to have an opinion but don't presume to speak as a guy for an entire gender, okay guy?
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>>8747046
"As a guy" As a guy, I'd prefer this shit over going brolita anyday.
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>>8747046
As a guy I'd wear the shit out of it desu
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>>8747065
brolita is only good if you're a trap
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Apologies for the delay, I got sidetracked.

Here's the PSD file if you want to make your own, it's very simple: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7XxsvozMQ46NG1EdDdoMTlyMlk/view?usp=sharing
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>>8747086
trippy
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>>8747086
I could imagine a fedora wearing this
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>>8747100
you got me thinking of a flame suit jacket now
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>>8747014
The gate entrance is right at his crotch. Thank you anon.
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>>8747108
top kek
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>>8747108
it's the one thing all lolitas crave
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From the ita thread.
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AP's Chocolate Quartet remade into an ouji vest.
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>>8747121

Jesus Christ the beautiful pattern matching across the button front of that vest is COMPLETELY wasted on the rest of that outfit. What the fuck dude. That green doesn't even match. Why is he wearing RHS with shorts. This outfit is like that picture of a guy in a suit holding a sewing machine and standing in front of a UPS truck in a ditch, given life as a completely discordant outfit without apparent rhyme or reason. I have no real reason why my jimmies are this rustled, and yet here we are.
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>>8747121
the absolute madman
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>>8747121
I-I kind of dig this. I'd just give him some normal pants and brown shoes, though. He's got some feminine legs there.
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>>8747149
all the more reason to show them off. it's ouji after all.

better shorts and better everything would work, well, better.
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There's an India-based men's (and women's, on request) clothing manufacturer called Luxire that is pretty much willing to make any design you send them as long as it's physically possible. Maybe try them? Their quality standards are pretty high, I have some shirts and pants from them I designed and the handiwork is top-notch. Pic related, is a pair of jeans with styling I had copied from a picture I sent them, they followed my additional instructions to a T.

If you could source suitable fabric, you could end up with something great. I think it would be worth seeing how they could make a princess seamed back, waist seam jacket to better fit the lolita aesthetic.
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>>8747147
that hat needs a bigass brown feather
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>>8747171
Side note, the more specific you are with your instructions, the better the result. Communication is often slow (up to a week to respond to emails) and stuff that's really custom will take extra time. However, I don't think they've ever turned down a request, no matter how illogical or unusual it may be.
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>>8746997
That's how most male models look, they're usually even skinnier than that
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I own at least a dozen sport coats of different weaves and patterns, from tartan virgin wool to diamond tessellations on polyester. All vintage.
While Lolita may be a bit farfetched, there does exist and has existed men's fashion with more than a matte look to it. Though, knowing congoers, you'd risk printed fedoras with some psuedosuited mess to boot.
I'd actually post the weirder designs I have to show the novelty and uniqueness that appeals to me, but I'm on mobile now.
TL;DR: totally possible, not likely.
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>>8747214

If you have the time, I'd love to see the weirder stuff you've found. I sew for BJDs and would love some inspiration for the boys.

Pretty sure the other guys on cgl would like to see what other interesting stuff for guys is out there, too.
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>>8746972
>I know male lolita and brolita exist but I'm sure there's some middle ground that's yet to be considered

Dandy?.... There's many types of dandy, some of them can get really quirky and cool, some are really historical, some are more modern. But yeah man, I'm pretty sure what you're looking for is Dandy.
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>>8746997
Amerifat? This guy has a weird face but doesn't look that skinny?
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>>8747229
I really miss the days lolitas and dandy where tied together.
But then Lolita's went hella weeby and cosplayish and we stopped relating to them and them to us.

Anyways, I watched this a couple of days ago, you might like it?https://youtu.be/YZ2oeghwBsE
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>>8747028
i am laughing so hard. .. i kinda want this to be a real thing..i want to make one of these.. this horse is so ugly its nose looks like a flaccid dick
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>>8747229
>Mads in front of antlers

Hannibal print when
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>>8747246
are you new to Lovely Horse Derpy-chan?
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>>8747229
Is that supposed to be dandy?
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>>8747262
It IS. Not all dandies are vintage dandies if that's what you're thinking.
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>>8747270
I'd give you Mads styled as Hannibal if we are to assume it's Hannibal. The other two are just tossers and posers.
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>>8747280
Hannibal seems more bon vivant than dandy imo
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>>8747280
Lol you're a fucking idiot
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>>8747229
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DESU I wouldn't be suprised is a kpop group wore something like that, They wear alot of floral / bright / pattern suits
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>>8747301
wtf it turned t . b. h. into desu o_0
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>>8747284
True too.

Also modern dandyism still requires more effort than just wearing a suit. more eccentricity than a floral pattern.
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>>8747301
>>8747302
Please leave.
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>>8747303
Not really. A dandy is basically anyone who's dapper consistently. Stop making up rules for it this is not jfashion.

>>8747284
Hannibal is the very definition of a dandy.
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>>8747308

Make me.
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>>8747303
Sounds like you think you learned everything about dandy just from looking at that one video above.

Here are the store owners to a rather popular dandy shop.
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>>8747317
And now compare that to >>8747229
No ties, casual suiting, open shirt, fucking aviators.
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>all this dandy talk
>not posting a true dandy guy
>from space

It would actually be cool if brands made actual pieces men could wear in a matching set for lolita dresses. I know there is ouji but a lot of it doesn't fit men very well since it looks a but unflattering but something like tail coat suits with prints or designs sounds really cool. My boyfriend and brother would actually be willing to wear something like that than ouji or EGA
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>>8747328
This isn't jfashion anon. This is not a spacific fashion. It's more of a term for well dressed guys and not really a specific clothing style with guidelines etc.

Both of these very different looks can be dandy. Dandies do casual wear too. You don't always have to wear a tie and who the fuck says you can't do sunglasses?

Fashion outside of the jfashion community doesn't work that way. There's no rules or guidelines just a general aesthetic. One persons outfit doesn't define anyone else's.
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>>8747332
Again the guy you posted is wearing a very structured shirt, he's not wearing aviators, he's wearing a bow tie, not some open shirt and he's even got them patterns. You don't just wear any suit and call it dandy, fashion does still work that way outside of jfashion. Preppy is not dandy, a power suit is not dandy, the thin tie 90s look is not dandy, the job application dad suit is not dandy.
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>>8747348
You need to do some reaserch. A dandy is basically a well dressed, dapper man. Again, its not a specific look but the term used to describe someone who cares about their appearance and dresses UP (as opposed to down) often if not all the time. A specific outfit is not dandy, this is not lolita. The person himself is dandy. Sure there are general dandy traits but you don't stop being dandy because you wore aviators or an open shirt, you're nitpicking like its lolita and it's funny because all those things you're whining about can definitely be dandy.

Anyways, here's a picture from the dandyportraits tumblr that's run by the author of I Am Dandy that will probably blow your mind.
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>>8747348
This fucking attorney with his average ass attorney suit seems to think he's dandy:
https://youtu.be/f29FvfutQqM
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>>8746972
This shit would be a whole new reddit fedora neckbeard weeb tier. Only acceptable on a female. And that's coming from a /fit/izen.
n-no homo though
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>>8747364
[Edit] by "all the things you're whining about" I meant the open shirt, sunglasses etc. Not the other things, just clarifying.
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>>8747384
That was pretty cool to watch, thanks for linking! Dandy wellington at the beggining *swoon* it reminds me of this interview with him. All this talk about dandies and no dandy wellington?
https://vimeo.com/88633514
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>>8747386

This. It would end with them feeling part of the lolita community.
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Any good ouji/dandy examples?
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>>8747364
I appreciate you, anon.

Actual, real life 'dandy' isn't a something-kei, or a whatever-core, which cgl (and to an extent, fa) tries to impose on increasingly specific looks and styles ex: uchuu-kei, larme.

It's really a more broad category than that, and applies more to the image of the person, as opposed to a specific outfit.

Infamous Numero shoot pic attached, cuz it's pretty cool.
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>>8747489
Basically, if you see a guy wearing some nice clothes and you think "well, it not exactly a business suit, it's something more" and looks classy for the sake of being classy rather than for some specific event... Then that's dandy. And it usually has some small quirk, from something small like a uniquely embroidered tie to something big like a wacky hat
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>>8747348
You need to stop comparing one look to another to determine it's dandyness. Dandy is broader than lolita. It's like comparing sweet to classic and claiming one isnt lolita because it doesnt look like the other. Yes there is a general aesthetic but there but it's not as specific as you seem to think it is. It's basically just dressy men and just about anything but casual street style goes. I'm not sure where you got this idea that open shirts and aviators are not dandy.
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>>8747508
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>>8747121
Men should never wear tights
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>>8747121
And they say that replica fabric will never bring anything bad...
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>>8747147
I love this old dude and everything he does. I wish we had a cool old non-pervert ouji/aristo in our comm.

>my headcanon is that he keeps an eye out for the girls in the comm and shoos away pervs and creepers for them because he's just a chivalrous eccentric old guy
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>>8746997
It's so sad how you've gotten so used to the rampant obesity in your country that you think this average sized guy is "skeletal".
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>>8747564
They said skeletal disease cause his legs look wonky, not because he's thin. He's not so thin. Anyway, I think OP's designs have merit of something Lolita related but more suited for male bodies
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>>8747508
Hello. That's what I'm talking about.

I love OP's idea but I think just cutting and pasting lolita prints onto suits isn't going to work. Border prints are usually so wide that they look really off on suit jackets. But as stupid as >>8747035 looks, the vertical striped thing sorta works. I think this could be done.
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>>8747508
I like this from the neck down but the hair and tash plus sunglasses combo make him look like a bit of a tit.

if you're gonna go sunglasses when it's not especially sunny, you may as well go pic related
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>>8747608
those sunglasses are so fucking ugly
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>>8747348
>Dandy does not have defined rules.
>But these guys don't follow the rules!
Honestly, anon.
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>>8747532
Why not?
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>>8747662
Sorry you have shit tastes. They're great for particular gothic coords.
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>>8747309
>Hannibal Lecter is the definition of dandy
Couldn't agree more. I wish I had a boyfriend like him, you know without the psychopath part.

By the way, this thread gave me an orgasm, love my men in a suit.
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Doesn't dandy fashion belong on /fa/?
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>>8749337
No, it belongs with lolita
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>>8746972
>>8746985
All I see is
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How come no one posted this yet?
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>>8747301
Sure did.
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>>8749337
It's not jfash, so yes, it technically does. But if it's an interesting thread and is being related to jfash in some way it seems they usually let it slide.
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>>8747139
>Why is he wearing RHS with shorts

Have you ever even picked up a G&LB? He looks bad but that's not why.
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>girls get countless different kinds of dresses and skirts and sleeves and collars and corsets and what-have-you
>guys get like one or two kinds of suits with patterns

I should just become a brolita.
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>>8749618
i feel you anon. i don't want to crossdress but the prints and details lolitas get are so much more varied and creative than what's available on the boystyle side.
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Check Dolce and Gabbana's 2015 winter men's collection
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>>8747086
Be still myheart. This is my favorite anime.. I'm going to die.
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>>8749669
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>>8749669
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>>8749669
Let's not forget last years winter collection too,
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>>8749746
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>>8749747
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>>8747565
This is what I meant. His big weird hands near his weird bowed legs are freaking me out.
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>>8749750
oh god, the upper half of his body looks normal but then his legs look like someone photoshopped them smaller
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>>8749635
Can y'all stop being weebs and look at western fashion? You don't have to wear ~jfashion~. Specially if it doesn't have what you're looking for.
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>>8749761
do you know where you are anon
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>>8749761
Yeah, and lolitas should wear skirts from urban outfitters and forever 21 when they can't get a nice one from a real brand, right?
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>>8746994
...why is there a banana though?
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>>8749846
To measure. What else do you use bananas for?
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>>8749437

Did they ever end up releasing that male cut? I didn't follow the mirage castle release that closely
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>>8750069
no
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>>8747086
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7XxsvozMQ46NG1EdDdoMTlyMlk/view?usp=sharing

Woah this file is crazy, i hope you didn't make this because holy shit that would have taken forever.

Anyways wanted to try it out, really just using random prints I have saved on my computer
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>>8750098

>forgot my file opps
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>>8750114
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these are fun but i wish his arms were at his sides. the print going over his arms like a projected slide is trippy as a duel over a rose bride
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>>8749669
>crotchgates
based D&C
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>>8749669
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>>8749635
Why not do something creative yourself instead of complaining the work isn't being done for you? Lolita was created by people who made their own clothing and then the brands came, not the other way around.
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>>8749785
Oh my god you idiot weeb. If you don't like the style of clothing then look for another style DONT bitch and whine that the style is not what you want it to be.
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>>8749785
> implying all western fashion is just mainstream mall clothes.
>not like glorious Japanese fashion

oh, the weeb.
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>>8750104
>>8750114
Fuck I want these.
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>>8749618
>>8749635

I've actually complained about the same thing to my husband- I have all these awesome clothes but his men's wear is basically all the same. So I started trying to design neat stuff for him that's nice without being the usual waistcoat and tie.

You can have just about anything you want to wear if you're willing to make it yourself or pay someone else to do it.
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>>8747301
desu senpai
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>>8747147

I appreciate this man and all he stands for.
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>>8749747

Holy hell I need to find a way to convince my bf to wear this. And then we are going to the museum and being rococo as fuck.
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I just need my partner to wear Dolce and Gabbana and we're set!
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>>8749669
1st thought too

this is what i have
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All clothes should be unisex in the first place
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>>8752923
Calm down tumblr.
not everyone wants to wear a dress.
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How about we name it Lolita Dandy, or Danlita, or something.
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>>8753024
Or just dandy since it's already a thing
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>>8753026
People are trying to decipher a strict set of rules. Might as well separate it from normie dandy.
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>>8747233
Heeey, it's the same guy that did the look into lolita! I like that guy, it's one of the few legitimate western coverage of the fashion. And he looked great in ouji.
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>>8753036
Dressing a particular kind of way within the dandy spectrum still makes it just dandy. Unless you plan on mixing with jfashion or making it something new there's no point in renaming it.
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>>8752920
Personally would leave the sleeves black or move the circles to the outer shoulders are least.
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>>8747332
Okay but the #menswear movement DOES in fact have specific rules.
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>>8747233
good video, and his treatment of lolita in the lolita episode was fantastic.
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