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Dashcon 2014 #5

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Previous threads in autosage >>7672973 >>7674079 >>7674680 >>7675377

Tumblr does a con. It's going as well as anyone could hope.

Friday:
>Con organisers ask for $17000 dollars in an hour otherwise the con will be shut down because "upper management doesn’t like the people at the con"
>turns out Dashcon didn't read the contract properly and it said payment due on day one
>Saying they'll refund donations once money's in from walk-ins

Saturday:
>Main draws of the convention, Welcome to Night Vale, walk after not being paid
>Anyone who forked out for extra-cost reserved seating for the event gets an extra hour with the ball pit
>an extra hour in a tiny, timed-entry, homestuck-paint-filled kiddie pool with some plastic balls in a giant empty room
>neat
>there's a bouncy house too
>Time Crash (who they?) concert and BDSM 101 panels later
>THE BALLPIT deflates
>Sexual assault?
>Webcomic artist flees.
>No one on tumblr knows what dashcon is.

Sunday:
>We are waiting for someone to die or be eaten.
>Murder? Suicide? BDSM Gone-Oh-Wrong? Place your bets, kids.
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These threads have been glorious.
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Metrocon has its response
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Wow we are burning through these threads.
It's so beautiful.
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>>7676262
oh that was me
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>>7676252
It's like watching a car fire with the driver still buckled in
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>>7676262
>bounce house
>not a bounce castle

ho hum
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>>7676263
I feel like I'm in an /sp/ gamethread. It's amazing
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ED anon again I need as many different pics of that ball pit as possible. I'm going through tumblr tags and have 3 so far.
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#CASHCON
#BRASHCON
#RASHCON
#DOSHCON
#BALLPITSW4G
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So, the Bakerstreet Babes pulled out, which are a "big" thing in the Sherlock fandom and the artist Gingerhaze got the hell out. Holy shite.

Still catching up on thread #4, did the ballpit really deflate?
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Whoever is writing the ED article, here's some stuff to include. 1/3-4ish.
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>>7676276
The other threads are still up, considering /cgl/ runs about as fast as Pixyteri.
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>Bare feet

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>7676252
Link to previous thread/post with webcomic artist fleeing? Missed that!

God this shit is gold
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>>7676252
>No one on tumblr knows what dashcon is.
Assuming this is poorly worded sarcasm because every 5th post on my dash is a ballpit macro.

I'm really fucking tired of it all tbh because the smug posts are now /almost/ as grating and repetitive and annoying as the cries for donation and stuff were yesterday. Like it feels as though segment A of tumblr is very self-satisfied about not being quite as pathetic as segment B of tumblr and it's so fucking annoying. I kind of just want to not acknowledge this thing's existence anymore (blacklisting "dashcon", "dash con", "tumblrcon" etc hasn't even worked, it's everywhere)
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>>7676273
>bounce castle
>not bouncy castle
Fuck off
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Reposting video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxAeAo7duYc
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BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BALLPIT???
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>>7676283
then get out of the thread.
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>>7676279
So they filed this the day the indiegogo completed even though it didn't makes its goal? Amazing.
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>>7676282
Gingerhaze left a day early and ended up having to pay for her hotel room as well. It's on her twitter.
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>>7676278
They didn't pull out. Their tweet was taken out of context. They did the stuff they agreed to do as a guest and then left the convention.
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>>7676289
wait shit that's 3/14 not 4/13 nvm
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>>7676282
https://twitter.com/Gingerhazing, you may have to scroll down a bit to get to the tweets where she talks about it, but most of her recent stuff is retweets about the con as well, so yeah
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>>7676265
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>>7676283
i pretty sure it because most people were surprised when Dashcon got brought up. No one knew what it was outside the Superwholock fandom.
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>>7676291
Yeah, was just about to correct myself, but thank you, still reading through the #4 thread, just reached the correction bit.
It's like the neverending story.
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>>7676287
Nah anon I'm not complaining there's a thread where I can read entertaining drama, I'm complaining about this specifically:
>segment A of tumblr is very self-satisfied about not being quite as pathetic as segment B of tumblr
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I'm honestly wondering if they had the legal rights to show Pacific Rim considering they're trying to show Dr Horrible without permission.
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>>7676303

Whereas the FOUR threads on /cgl/ totally aren't smug.
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https://twitter.com/PlanetofFinks/status/488184888068419584
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>>7676305
Don't worry. They have LAWYERS (allegedly)
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>>7676283
I think you should reconsider the people you follow.

>tfw Dashcon hasn't even been mentioned in my dashboard and if it wasn't for /cgl/ I would never know anything about it
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Someone in the last thead was saying there was anger towards the WTNV guys for pulling out right? Maybe that was just the early reactions or whatever bc I'm seeing 99% overwhelming support and staff mocking and a few halfhearted "i wish they hadn't done that" floating around

In fact it seems like by slighting the universally beloved Night Vale people the event organizers dealt the last blow to any remaining shreds of goodwill people might have had to them.
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>>7676306
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kinda been zoning out on this thread a little, hope no one brought this up yet if so sorry

http://trashcon.tumblr.com/post/91613153829/very-important-note-the-prizes-for-the-consolation#notes

"Very important note: the prizes for the "consolation" raffle are the prizes that were supposed to be given to the IndieGoGo donors. The pics & autographs were going to go to people who donated at different levels. Clearly that didn't happen."
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>>7676290
>>7676295
Ugh, she's such a sweet person, too. Fucking con treating all my favorite people like shit.
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>>7676308
Oh man, for the soft-spoken Joseph Fink to use words like weird and bad about something, that really says something about the shit they had to go through.
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>>7676307
/cgl/ isn't tumblr. People being smugass bitches here at least have the decency to not think they have some kind of moral high ground
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>>7676313
I'm still finding the same few furious "HOW DARE WTNV NOT COME HERE" posts being reblogged with people agreeing with it.
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>>7676289
I don't know anything about the IndieGoGo deal. Can you elaborate? They made some modifications to the filing as you can see in the first image, I'll just put them up here for easy access.
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>>7676306
What are good baby names for Dashcon's legacy?
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http://thumbcramps.tumblr.com/post/91609010899/i-decided-to-look-into-dashcons-newest-give-us
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>>7676326
Dashconned
Trashcon
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>>7676326
Parenthood Options
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>>7676327
that was deleted fast
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http://iced-lightning.tumblr.com/post/91613554311/fyi-not-to-start-any-shit-but-im-not-entirely

and of course there's been some art theft
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>>7676325
Why was this done in Ohio if the con is in Illinois?
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i'm still waiting to see how the BDSM panel went down. i really hope it was as hilarious as i'm expecting.
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>>7676326
If we kill the parents, we can make it grow up into an SJW themed anti-hero.
THE FEMINAZI
EL BRONIO
THE SOCIAL JUSTICE GLADIATOR
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>>7676332
goddammit

http://organiccyborg.tumblr.com/post/91612007603/thumbcramps-i-decided-to-look-into-dashcons
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>>7676310
same experience on my end, I don't believe anyone on my dash even knows this thing exists.
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>>7676337
It was an Ass Disaster
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they are becoming self-aware
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>>7676337
Latest reports says no body was checking the door so anyone was able to get in.
Even those below the age of 18
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>>7676322
Putting #wtnv in the search bar shows that four or five of the dozen or so most quickly rising posts rn are text posts mocking or criticizing the organizers for what happened and a few more are neutrally remarking on it

Can you cap one of the ones you mean? I kind of really want to see what bullshit entitled reasoning people are using if they say otherwise
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>>7676348
Bullshit.
A crap ass con can't have possibly achieved what a shitstorm assault by /b/ couldn't.

Captcha:
ibutsex question
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>>7676352
>minors getting into bdsm

IS NOTHING SACRED???
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>>7676335
I'm not quite sure myself. In order to conduct business as a pass-through entity in nearly any state, you must register with that state. A limited liability partnership is a pass-through organization because profits "pass through" the organization itself to the partners. Because they failed to file in Illinois, they're operating illegally within the state and are subject to taxation and potential fines.
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>>7676308
>two of the top guests had to band together to find an AirBnB after they find out they have to pay for their room and board

oh lawd
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Dashcon (volunteer) staff here. I've seen some shit.

This place is a fucking mess and I have been heartily enjoying all of these jokes.

Especially the ball pit. Please post more ballpit.
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>>7676355
It's the fact of the matter than an 18+ panel let minors in with no qualm
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>>7676310
>>7676345
Are you guys only following jfashion and lolita or cosplay blogs? I'm seeing mocking and macros pretty often same as anon but i follow no Superwholock blogs or similar, rather, i follow a lot of personal blogs with some interest in fandom or anime. quite a few of them just heard about it today through the ballpit photo with 30k notes and started making snarky posts
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I legit feel bad for some of the most naive people. A friend of mine got a table at the artist alley, and she was so hoping to sell some shit. She doesn't believe in tumblr being awful, I don't even feel good thinking I FUCKING TOLD YOU A CON OF TUMBLR WOULD ONLY IMPLODE ON ITSELF
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>>7676352
i've been scouring the tag for an hour now and the most i've seen about it is some girl claiming they were checking IDs at the door but she didn't even try to get in so i trust nothing she says.

i'm also hella curious about what happened inside the actual panel, if it was real actual useful content or if it was all 50 Shades shit.
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>>7676355
There's plenty of gods that consider BDSM equipment sacred tools of faith and devotion.
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>>7676359
Please elaborate, friend

>captcha: which DASEcon
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>>7676359
Oh god. When the volunteers start thinking its a joke, its much worse then it was initially feared. Please elaborate on what has been going on. Oh and if you could post proof that would be cool
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>>7676359
Say something worth shit if you're in on things
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>>7676306
This can't be true. Remember the transtrenders are crying that to be real they need to go through with surgery. Ergo none of the "guys" there have the means to reproduce.

Unless they coaxed the guy Jack Frost into it
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>>7676362
Literally the only person I know at the con is someone in their AA and I feel so bad for them with the low attendance and all hope our friends sell enough to make the trip worthwhile

captcha: butstanc
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From @PlanetOfFinks:
>also we had dinner with @Gingerhazing and now are trying to figure out how our airbnb ikea sofabed works so she will have somewhere to sleep
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>>7676358
And even through all that, they decided to give shitcon another chance.
I love these people and they deserved so so much better.
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>>7676363
http://delicatestarfish.tumblr.com/post/91616817008/so-dashcon-is-a-convention-organized-for-tumblr
here you go!
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>>7676362
I mean, that's kind of an excuse, even a convention attended by a tumblrtard crowd didn't have to turn out like this. Let's not forget this is pretty much singlehandedly the fault of the dumbshit organizers.
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iconic
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>Punk Frozen
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>>7676362
I feel really bad for a lot of the con attendees. Even if it was looking shady from day 1, I bet a lot of them were just looking to meet like-minded people and maybe the WTNV guys or an artist they liked. Now they're going to be forever branded with the memory of this clusterfuck...
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>>7676285
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>>7676374
wuh?
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>>7676381
Is that tape?
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Does ANYONE have pictures of the dead ballpit?
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>>7676376
I don't think they're giving it another chance, they're just being incredibly PC about it not to ruffle any feathers.
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>>7676357
>Because they failed to file in Illinois, they're operating illegally within the state

So, they're now potentially facing legal action from WTNV and other guests, the vendors, Joss Whedon, Guillermo Del Toro, concerned parents AND the state of Illinois.

Holy fuck.
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I haven't seen a single fucking picture of the deflated ball pit and that upsets me.
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>>7676381
that belongs on an aesthetic blog or something
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>>7676381
/r/ing ball pit creepypasta
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>>7676385
I think she's the glow cloud from Nightvale
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>>7676374
For a split second I thought she had engulfed her actual child in a cotton "costume" and brought it
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>>7676362
I really hope someone stops by tomorrow and brings those poor kids something nice. I realize the idea of the convention was pretty dumb, but it's just depressing seeing how shitty and garbage this con turned out.
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>>7676381
Is it an inflatable raft now??
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>>7676386
The rumors are true
The ball pit has deflated
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>>7676381
This is Gummo-tier depressingly trashy/hilarious, holy shit
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>>7676372
It's her first con too, this shit ain't going to be encouraging
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I hope absolutely no one shows up for Sunday.
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>>7676372
>butstanc
>buttstank
I kek'd. prob what the ball pit smells like atm

>>7676377
thanks kind anon. I wonder what "property" was damaged.........pls tell me the edgy hairdye and homestuck paint didn't stain every shower in that place.
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>>7676383
>For some, Dashcon will be their very first convention
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>>7676381
>they duct-taped it together
holy shit
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>>7676306
Shit, this really brings back church camp memories. "I heard someone conceived while doing heroin in Satan's Shack last night!"
I can't tell if they are being facetious or they really are just a stupid teenager, like the church camp crowd.
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>>7676359
Post the dirt please. What's going on?
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>>7676395
Some kind anons hsould go and hand out free flower crowns or something
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>>7676404
And their last :<
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>>7676361
All fandom blogs, though no SuperWhoLock or anything widely popular except Free! and DC Comics. I've already unfollowed anyone who posts a lot of SJW or personal boohoo though. I've not gotten a single Dashcon mention so far.
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>>7676306

How could you possibly check that so soon
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This is where I would put my ballpit
IF I STILL HAD ONE
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>>7676389
>Guillermo del Toro
Wait, what?
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i still can't get over the "BDSM 101" panel like what did they cover and was it as hilariously misinformed as i'm guessing it was

what the fuck do you teach at an intro to BDSM class like. what
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>>7676420
no ballpit?
IT'S OVER
DASHCON IS FINISHED
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>>7676426
Pack it in, put it in the books, put um in a coffin.
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This is the best thing on /cgl/ in forever.
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>>7676424

Apparently they showed Pacific Rim without getting permission.
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>>7676424
People at Dashcon tried to play Pacific Rim at the con, even though they didn't have the right to do so
along with Dr. Horrible
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>>7676424
For showing Pacific Rim at a paid event without permission.
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>>7676382
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>>7676361
>the ballpit photo with 30k notes
I'm guessing some of these kids could only dream of 30k notes so... mission accomplished?
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So yeah, looks like there's no ID yet on the fem-Cecil from >>7675978. Shame.

>>7676432
>>7676433
>>7676434
Welp. They're probably boned.
I sure can't wait for Dashcon 2015!
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>>7676425
I got dragged to a Fetlife meetup and it turned into a BDSM 101.

They taught people how to safely do basic rope work/tying up (they tied up peoples arms in different positions) and then discussed the different types of safewords. Honestly a great intro into BDSM.

I have a feeling the panel was just scanning through fanfic and going "THIS IS WRONG BECAUSE REASONS" and no demonstration.
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Does anyone know exactly how old the people running this shitshow are? I imagine they aren't actually 14 year olds but I would be fucking shocked if they aren't barely 18.
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>>7676326
Doshcon
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>>7676441
There's a 32 year old woman, a 22 year old woman, two 20 year olds, and a 17 year old.
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>>7676441
only one was under age, the others were 20 and up the oldest being almost 30 i think.
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>>7676441
>>7674702
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>>7676441
Actually I believe one of the people in charge is 17
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>>7676441
http://dashcon.tumblr.com/tagged/meet-the-admin
It looks like the main ones are 20 and 32.
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>>7676441

Head admin is 17. Everyone else ranges from around that to 30ish.

Yep, 30 years let a 17 in charge. Probably to pass the buck should any legal hassle pop up.
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>>7676357
I think you're a little confused.

It might be different for an LLP in Ohio than an LLC in other states, but in general you have to file your company in the state the owner has residency in, if there is no office. So if the owner lived in ohio, the company is formed in ohio.
pass-through entities aren't used for businesses simply because the owners get paid. It's more about dealing with state corporation taxes.

Of which virtually no first year con ever qualifies because most states have a required revenue stream much, much higher than a first year gets (in Ohio, it's 150,000)

But even on top of that, operating a company as a pass through has it's income reported on your personal taxes, not separate business taxes.
They DO need to register their business in Illinois, because Illinois has special "out of state LLC registration" filing (500 dollar fee) but A) do we know they didn't file that? and B) it doesn't mean they are subject to taxes outside of sales tax, because like in Ohio, they'll be filing on their own personal income taxes, aside from the 1.5% they'll pay for the ppr tax

IF they even TAKE a profit. If they don't make money, i.e. if they're in the red, then none of that matters.

Also "co-owners" don't mean anything if they aren't listed as the legal owners.
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>>7676361
I follow only a few j-fashion ones. Mostly, I follow lit, travel and history, and many personal blogs. 583 in total, an even searching through my whole dash, nothing about dashcon shows up. And no sjw-related content ever comes up either. Honestly, just start following better people.
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>>7676441

Mostly useless post-grads/Uni students in their 20s, the 'head' of the con is a 32 year old interior decorator with no future and the head lolcow of the staff is a 17 year old girl who seems to be taking a lot of the credit for shit/seems to be begged as head staff.
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>>7676440
well that's called "doing it right." i expect no "doing it right" from any teenager on tumblr, ever. fuck i'm not even a teenager anymore and i still can't do anything right fffff
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Have any of the other 4chan boards picked up on this dashcon mess?
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>>7676381
makes a beautiful wallpaper
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>>7676454
And even then, you still didn't go to Dashcon. You're clearly doing something right.

Dashcon. Not even once.
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>>7676456
I'm from /co/ and we vaguely know what it is. There was a thread earlier I think but it was deleted for not being /co/.
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>>7676453
It seems more like the others are throwing the blame on the 17 year old girl.
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>>7676459
>but it was deleted for not being /co/.
oh the ironing
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>>7676456
not that ive seen. dashcon is very unknown from the looks of things.
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>>7676451
>in general you have to file your company in the state the owner has residency in, if there is no office. So if the owner lived in ohio, the company is formed in ohio.
That's not necessarily true. One of the oldest tricks in the book is filing your LLC in this one state where it's free to do so, I forget which one but I think it's Michigan. My BF has an LLC and I have also looked into creating one. It's just more convenient for certain reasons if it's in your home state.
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>>7676456
I saw some /co/ threads here and there, not surprising since /co/ has plenty of tumblr already, but the mods keep deleting them (as they should).
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>>7676451

>http://methmerizing.tumblr.com/post/91599691704/dashcon-legality

Apparently, they did not file as an out-of-state LLC.

Even then, they can get sued out the ass by so many parties that it doesn't even matter.
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>>7676460
>It seems more like the others are throwing the blame on the 17 year old girl.

>>7676449
>Probably to pass the buck should any legal hassle pop up.
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>>7676381
Be right back, making a touching tribute.
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The ball pit is dead.
Long live the ball pit!
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this is the best thing ever.
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>>7676310
>>7676361
I follow sherlock and doctor who tumblrs, as well as some j fashion ones and WTNV and cats and stuff. Yet I only heard about this via facebook oddly enough.

I guess it really makes a big big difference who you follow...
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>>7676456
Considering half of Tumblr had no idea this was happening, I imagine almost no one here had any clue.
[spoiler]I'm from /a/ but I somehow still have a tumblr.[/spoiler]
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>>7676459
It's always interesting to me how different boards handle things. I'm glad the janitors are leaving them up here, as much as you guys bitch about the janitors they do have some sense.
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>>7676472
Well, this IS /cgl/, and that con is ripe with the scent of homestucks.
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>>7676460
Which is a little shit to me, given that several of them are running this thing and all the rest of them are 18+. Why give this 17 year old any power at all? Just to be a scapegoat? That's pretty fucking horrible. The other people running this need to be held accountable, unless she's the man behind the curtain but I don't know if that's true.
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>>7676451
I think you're a little presumptuous.

I never said they were not required to file in Ohio. You're reiterating exactly what I stated. We know for a fact that they did not file in Illinois under either name, and this was supposedly entered into as a for-profit venture.
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>>7676471
'what the fuck is dashcon' is now officially a meme on tumblr it seems.
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>>7676453

From a volunteer inside the con: 17 year old (Lochlan) isn't the head, Roxanne is the one in charge

altho, not denying she paid $800 for her flight out of denver
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>>7676439
Cute.
If she survives this she should do a shoot with the similarly un-ID'd female Kevin whose pictures from katsu were floating around
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>>7676471
GTFO.. just kidding, I only recently started on /a/ but their hate for tumblr is a little unreasonable. It's a site that hosts images that also come up on google images sometimes.
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>>7676470
Yeah, it's no so much about theme as about the actual people. You can tell a crazy snowflake from their description. Or from the moment you enter their blogs and music is on auto-play.
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>>7676472
>>7676475
There's also, y'know, the fact that any kind of convention discussion is officially on topic for /cgl/.

That's why we have Artist Alley generals and "what are your plans for ___con?" threads
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>>7676395
I bet its just going to get shittier and there will be no silver line by the end
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>>7676476
From what I can tell she doesn't really have any power besides being a mouth piece, so she's standing there and taking shit as it comes
.
captcha: the raminor
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>>7676483
If you follow nothing but furry porn blogs, you might avoid cancer in its entirety.

Yes, the furries are the best part of tumblr.
Take that how you will.
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>>7676463
The cost of filing that you have an out of state LLC in Illinois is 500 dollars, which is the cost of registering your LLC in Illinois (thought that's after you've registered the name, which costs 300 on it's own)

Illinois is a horrible state to do business in, it's true.
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>>7676485
I still wonder why moot deleted /con/. It's not as though it had served its purpose after that one convention he went to.
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>>7676485
The AA generals are probably too unoffensive to report, but I always figured the plans threads got by because people discuss their actual cosplay and lolita plans. I've never thought of /cgl/ as /con/ but I guess it effectively is. I thought some other board was theoretically supposed to handle that, but I don't really know.
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Dashcon staff here <--- There's my badge.

Ask away.
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>>7676495
Have you read the sticky, anon....?
"Conventions and gatherings" is the fourth bullet after cosplay, lolita, and jfash
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>>7676454
> fuck i'm not even a teenager anymore and i still can't do anything right fffff

This whole mess is making me vaguely uncomfortable (I mean, more than it otherwise would) because I really can't do anything right and this is what happens when I try to accomplish things. This is exactly how it'd turn out if I ever tried to start a con.

>mfw
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>>7676490
I'm not into furries but they are really not all that bad at all. I just think it's ridiculous /a/ gets mad at tumblr filenames occasionally. But I guess every board has its shitposting. I like /a/ in general
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>>7676465
>>7676463
>>7676492
LLPs and LLCs are entirely different business entities, though they share similar filing and management procedures.
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>>7676496
WHAT
HAPPENED
TO
THE BALL PIT
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>>7676496
why hasn't anyone killed themselves yet?
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>>7676496

>also staff
let's do this shit
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>>7676496
How can you sleep at night?
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>>7676483
Considering tumblr's absolute shit taste in anime and their "fandom" attitude, I'm not really blaming them for being paranoid about that. But we're also a board of autists, so I guess that's also part of the deal.
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>>7676496
>>7676503
seconding. We need more Tales from the Pit.
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>>7676496
How is the artist alley and dealers room looking?
Also I saw the badge + concert ticket package was sold out. Did people really buy them all just to see a Doctor Who band?
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>>7676496
is it true you guys have the WTTNV people locked up in a radiator under the convention?
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>>7676490
>Yes, the furries are the best part of tumblr.
I can smell your custom fursuit from here
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>>7676465
the site they linked to does not seem to list out of state businesses, only registered LLCs

to operate in illinois, you don't need to file a seperate LLC filing, you need to file a special "doing business in illinois" type filing.

It wouldn't be in this list unless they also had an illinois office.
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>>7676496
How many people attended?
Were IDs checked for the 18+ panels?
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http://www.dashcon.org/dashcon-2015-advance-reg/

It won't stop...it will never stop...
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>>7676424
>>7676434
The problem of having a teenager or tumblr loners operating this thing is that they probably were never in a club, sports team, or other school organization. Therefore, never had to deal with the shit that is student organization training. If they were in an anime club, they would at least know copyright issues of showing stuff at a club event (although I know a few of my friends just do it anyways, but they know it's not legit)
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>>7676496
Put every admin on suicide watch you crackaloo. Someone's cutting themselves in a bathtub tomorrow, we're calling it here
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>>7676496
>>7676506
inb4 shitstorm
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>>7676496
at first i thought "wow its so shitty, they might just be fucking with us" but on second thought this quality is exactly what one would expect

so i guess we have an inside man now huh?
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>>7676496
>>7676506
Officially, what were your positions, did you have any idea what you were getting into, and do you regret it at all?
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>>7676496
who the fuck thought a kiddie pool was a good ballpit. why not a bigger pool.
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>>7676496
Tell us everything.
We will not judge, you can cry on our shoulders.
And tell us where the money is.
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>>7676512
Not them but you missed the point entirely
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>>7676499
But you didn't convince yourself that you could, so it's okay.
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>>7676496
When are you going to lock all of the doors and order everyone to start Battle Royale-ing each other?
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>>7676504
>>7676503
NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BALL PIT. I'M VERY UPSET.

As for the killing themselves thing - I can confirm that staff wants to. We want to.

God help us. Please.

Send help.
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>>7676512
That means it's good?
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>>7676496
>>7676506

Tell us something juicy, got any cringe worthy stories from your experience?
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>>7676481
Aww, she IS cute.
Maybe later I'll post something or other about it in the WTNV tags.
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>>7676496
How was the BDSM panel?
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>>7676521

I was brought in as a general volunteer which meant I was cannon fodder half the time

don't regret it because interesting stories abound
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>>7676528
it rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
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>>7676507
anon
it's 1 in the morning
clearly they cannot
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>>7676528
Can you tell us why nobody paid the Nightvale people when arranged (before the show), after the hotel payment debacle the night before? I've heard the money was "in the bank and just needed to be picked up" or something. Was it really that or did they just not have it and thought WTNV would do the show for...what, free?
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>>7676496
Are the allegations that someone was raped at dashcon true or are they just being tumblrs.
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>>7676528
What panels did you see/how cringeworthy were they?
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>>7676528
>>7676534
What happened with the BDSM panel? Literally all we have on it is was that it was
>a dangerous ass disaster
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>>7676496
Any hilarious /lgbt/ stuff that happened there?
Did tumblr do anything like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cOzekvYZig
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>>7676515
Oh shit this is in my state. Send help. Or sabotage if this goes through.
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>>7676531

>THERE IS NO STEAM POWERED GIRAFFE

WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK WE HAVE STEAM POWERED GIRAFFE

HELP
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>>7676496
This is the most replies I've seen to a comment on /cgl/ in this amount of time
Makes sense, the only way for anyone associated with Dashcon to have any kind of hope of redeeming themselves after this is to throw everything under the bus. Every.thing. WTNV knew it, Gingerhaze and the other "guests" knew it. This is your final option. Godspeed
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>>7676533
What about the British Men...With Cheekbones panel
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>>7676398
Someone get Harmony Korine to film the last day of this con
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>>7676538
WHAT? I didn't hear about this!
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>>7676534
We've heard there were like, 6 people in the brony convention. Did you see that? What was it even supposed to be?
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>>7676540

We bailed to our hotel rooms before then thank god
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>>7676549
You really should give yourself a name, staff-anon. It's super confusing when you reply to stuff.
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>>7676549
Tell us something interesting faggot
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>>7676538

Nobody was raped at Dashcon

That's fucking stupid
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>>7676506
>>7676496
The two of you start from the beginning.
>Why did you do this yourselves? What made you think a tumblr con would work and why did you decide to get involved?
>Did the hotel actually charge that money or did it not?
>Is anyone keeping tabs of the money you have at all?
>What's the story behind the guests that were not paid?
>What property has been damaged?
>How are you dealing with parents?
>Were they checking IDs for the 18+ panels or not?
>Share the worst things you have seen today in terms of "tumblr behavior".
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>>7676549
>>7676551
Yeah, dude, put your name back on.
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>>7676547
Anon is just fucking with you
every con has a rape rumor
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>>7676536
They better not

>>7676528
I'm worried about my fucking friend, she's too naive and this was her first con, I just want to know what happened to artist alley
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>>7676543
that's not very juicy, staff-chan
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dashcon anons should post stories.
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>>7676521
I ran around a lot, handled a lot of random things. I don't want to give away TOO much about myself just in case someone finds this.

I did not know what I was getting into and I mildly regret it?? But at the same time I don't because I've got some really amazing friends that I've met and hung out with and the admins are lovely, the ones that were actually there and helping, of course.
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>>7676553
It's ok, it's not your fault.
>>
remember that episode of spongebob where mr krabs made that shitty theme park

that is what dashcon is looking like right now
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>>7676555
Oh wait, scratch this. Didn't realize there were two people.
I would like to mention that you guys are heroes, right now, for real.
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>>7676556
>every con has a rape rumor
True fact
I remember being in debate in high school and even fucking debate club had a rape rumor. It was always "some girl from another school" that was unspecified and no one ever knew who she was or anything.
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>>7676537

We had the money in the bank but Night Vale did not want to wait

If you do research on Night Vale and look at their track record at previous cons you shouldn't be fucking surprised, smh
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So is no one gonna talk about the 6-person "lolita meetup"
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>>7676567
I found Waldo!
No I have to find Waldo a gym!
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>>7676567
Why are their boobs so big?
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>>7676543
because of the fucking website
>Please also note, Steam Powered Giraffe is no longer performing at DashCon, we are still having a concert, however, with the esteemed Time Crash!
http://www.dashcon.org/reg-1/
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>>7676545
This question seems like it will never be answered
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>>7676567
second girl from the left has such a pretty coord holy shit
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>>7676533
>>7676540
>>7676545

No idea about Panels. I never visited any except one for like, five minutes before I had to leave.
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>>7676560
Just be careful about it and change nonessential details
Also, as I've said before, you do not want to be associated with these people, no matter what they've done with or for you. We are your best friends right now. Anything you choose to do in the future will NOT involve them. This is basically your chance for redemption and a new start.
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>>7676567
suffering
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>>7676574
WELL WHAT WAS IT THEN GOD DAMMIT
SPILL
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>>7676567
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>>7676567
>no one mentioning the random chick(?) in a star trek uniform
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>>7676566
How dare they want to be paid up front after hauling their ass down during an already established tour for some lame tumblr con where nothing was put together well.
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>>7676560
>Tens of thousands of dollars seemingly unaccounted for
>Well it's ok, I have amazing friends and we hung out all day at the expense of hundreds of people

You guys better release a COMPREHENSIVE list detailing all of your expenses or else you guys are fucked.
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>>7676567
>cow lolita
WHY
this looks more like people hosting a panel.
Star Trek chick looks pretty good but why is she there? Why is Waldo there?
>mfw Waldo is easier to spot than ever
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>>7676566
>didn't want it
it sounded like they weren't getting their travel costs paid, and that was the real upset.

Any knowledge of that?
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>>7676573
Somebody please save her and bring her to a proper comm
We'll give her tea and biscuits
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Will do another version with the summary greentext tomorrow.

http://youtu.be/tVcqai-PtIA
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>>7676564

We're so sick of this con, we just wanna fucking go home, and since we're up anyway might as well do something productive
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>>7676589
kek'd
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>>7676566
It's bad business to just be like LOL WE HAVE THE CASH JUST HOLD ON A SECOND BRO. WTNV was totally well within in their rights to walk. Nobody cares about a balance on a screen, that means jack shit. That means after they finished and are waiting to be paid, someone could come up to them and be like WEH THE BANK IS MALFUNCTIONING WE CAN'T WITHDRAW YOUR PAY. MUH RAINCHECK PERHAPS?
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>>7676566
If you're gonna start talking shit about WTNV you can fucking leave right now, cunt.
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>>7676566
We need a number. How much money was WTNV expecting to have in hand before performing?
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>>7676589
I cried
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>>7676585
>>7676567
have some more

>"So we were supposed to have a lolita meet-up this morning but like 7 people showed up

>We had fun anyway minus Megan’s hip power

>Please tag yourselvesssss"
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>>7676566
Anon what are you on abt, their previous record with shows has been that people always enooyed themselves and it went smoothly. I don't know details about payment or have heard of anything like this but if they'd ever walked out because of impatience before well, why haven't there been posts and outrage about it?

Wait, does this mean that those elusive posts mentioned upthread that were blaming the Nightvale people for very reasonably leaving when it looked like the "WE NEED 17K NOW" convention couldn't fucking pay them were...made by the dashcon staff members/con volunteers?
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>>7676570
not all boobs can be squished down perfectly flat.
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>>7676567
>6 people lolita meet
>only 2 lolitas
>and one of them is ita
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>>7676554
>>7676554
>Why
Friends. Really only friends that were coming.
>Hotel
Yes, they charged it. That was definitely not a scam.
>Guests
What story is that? Are you talking about Nightvale?
>Property
None, actually. We've been very well behaved for a con, surprising.
>Parents.
Not a lot of parents actually. Had some older people come along though and complain that we didnt have steam powered giraffe.
>IDs
No idea. Didn't attend panels but I know the (competent) admins would not stand for no ID checking. Hell, the rumor that 15 year olds got into the bdsm panel has been going around for awhile and the catcher is that the BDSM panel didn't even happen until tonight.
>Tumblr Behavior
Hmm. It's actually been very tame? I think it's been very tame, really, besides from the MASSIVE AMOUNTS of superwholock. Everyone's been very kind, especially in the artist's alley.
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>>7676589
rest in pieces
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>>7676598
>not all boobs
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>>7676597
I wouldn't put it past dashcon staff or members to do anything to defend their precious con.
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>>7676567
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>>7676596
>the only good lolita apparently split
What a surprise.
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>>7676586

We tried to arrange their travel and hotel but they refused to let us and arranged it themselves beyond that I don't know

again, we're pretty low end staff
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>>7676567

>I don't know what I even expected.
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>>7676557
>>7676557
Artist Alley is actually going well!! Everyone is extremely friendly in there and nothing bad has happened in there. Arda Wigs packed up and left though, and so did Gingerhaze.
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>>7676600
So have you done anything at all? It seems like you just came to a con to hang out with friends. Being Staff doesn't mean you can just sit around and do fuck-all. How the hell can you be a Staffer and not even have checked in on any panels throughout the con?
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>>7676596
I don't even care if she's not in lolita, star trek chick can come be mai waifu
I would say she'd be a good Yar but I don't think the gold uniform would flatter her all that well
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>>7676607
Honestly it's probably best they arranged it themselves, given how terrible the rest of the con's been run.
>see Gingerhaze
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>>7676600
Nicely dodged the question about keeping tabs on the money.
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>>7676600
Confirmed for shill
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>>7676608
#savedashconloli
>>
People blaming Night Vale for walking away can go jump in a lake.

Not getting paid for the upfront = no show.
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>>7676615
>DashDamageControl coming out of the woodwork
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>>7676610
>mfw motherfucking arda wigs got conned into going there
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>>7676579
THERE WAS JUST PANELIST INTRODUCTIONS AND THEN I LEFT
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>>7676610
>shilling
I don't know why I expected anything else
Get a real staff member in here who has some sense of preserving their future. Only the captain goes down with a sinking ship. Are you a captain?
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>>7676496
Theories from a person who has help run big cons:

-Dashcon didn't hit room block therefore the sudden $17k to pay for the space. True?

-Your pre-reg was likely low being a first year con so you had hardly in the bank to pay the bills. True?

-How old is your conchair? She appears to be 19.

-Was there any large backer or investors besides the IndieGoGo? You can't run a con on good faith.
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>>7676610
Arda was there? Oh man. Guess they came out since they're local.
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>>7676600
>>7676611
Seconded, anon I can buy that panels and finances were somehow both outside your area of supervision but then what exactly do you do/oversee?

Honestly between 'teehee, i don't know about this or that thing' you and 'ugh nightvale sucks for walking' anon, both of you do sort of sound like you don't know what you're doing, I don't know why so many people reacted positively when you posted here
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>>7676621
Left to do what?
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>>7676583
HAHAHAHA oh man you're hilarious, thinking we have that shit for you.

Hahaha, oh lord.
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>>7676611
I think I get it now.
They were so cheap that they didn't even hire competent staffers to keep tabs. They're just volunteers who wanted free entry.

It's a beautiful mess.
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>>7676620
Arda is already in Chicago so it was probably nothing for them to go there. And they smartly packed up and left when they realized what was happening. Nothing on Arda, they are still golden and smartly abandoned ship.
>please get more fucking restocks in though, fuckers
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>>7676610
I don't blame Gingerhaze. She's sleeping on a pull out sofa right now in WTNV's room because she's got no where else to go.
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>>7676610

Had no idea Arda was going.
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>>7676572
i want it to be. thats the one panel i expect to be filled with hambeasts
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news on the BDSM panel - someone claiming to be a/the panelist posted this. look at the fucking tags. "fuck off haters." like. what the fuck does that mean.
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>>7676612
Yeah it's a good cosplay and I'm pleased to see people are still into non-New Movie Trek (since it's much better source material than either Superwholock or New Trek, in pretty much every way); gives me hope for the younger fan set
>>
You have no professional allegiance, staff anons. Sell 'em out.
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>>7676597

There have been instances of unprofessional conduct behind the scenes but nothing quite like this, GRANTED DASHCON ISN'T ANY BETTER LET'S BE HONEST

>why haven't there been posts and outrage about it
there could very well have been in the past but no con has been investigated or blown up as much as this con before

as for the second bit that's a probability but I could give less of a shit about WTNV to be honest, not a fan so I stayed out of that shitstorm
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>>7676600
>We've been very well behaved for a con

So the singing and harassing hotel workers and the weddings didn't happen?
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>>7676628
So basically you're a shitty con staff who just hung out with friends and did nothing... and you came on here just to try and save DashCon's ass.

A+
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>>7676636
>picturing any of these "miners" involved with any BDSM activities -- let alone sex itself

eeeewwwwww
>>
>Dean & Cas genderbent steampunk cosplay
how even? are these people just using random tumblr word generators to justify their misuse of corsets in public?
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>>7676636
looks like they're going for the "omg we're minors going to the bsdm panel how risque we are for getting in and going"
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>>7676636
>Miners
>Miners
>MINERS

BREAK OUT THE PICKAXES MY FRIENDS.
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>>7676624
oh shit, this nigga knows what she's talking about
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>>7676607
a lot of guests do that. Scott McNeil does as well.

Considering they flew in mid-tour from vancouver, that makes sense.

But the flight costs alone would have cost 500 per person, and then there's hotel costs, which no doubt would end up being a few hundred more.

I don't know how much they run in appearance fees, but when travel and room cost them, up front, a 2-3 thousand dollars... yeah, I'd be demanding that up front too.

Not to mention if all they had was an email agreement and a verbal confirmation of agreement, and not a full contract, they're not entitled to perform until they get paid.
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>>7676636
Can you imagine?
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>>7676628
So you're saying you don't have any paperwork covering expenses?

I'm not saying release it on here, that's fucking retarded, but do you have anything? Any sort of list saying who spent what where?

I mean, you promised reimbursements, people are going to be asking for refunds, if that hasn't been happening already. Plus if you're raffling off the Indiegogo backer prizes over the weekend, you DO realize the people to donated to the Indiegogo can demand for their money back since you never gave them anything, right?
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>>7676614
Oh yes sorry let me just go ahead and pull up the financial records all volunteer staff get immediately once they sign up. Of course, sorry anon, how could I forget about that?
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>>7676628
So you really just came here to shill. You've said NOTHING about the dirty dirty which you should have known in advance we all want.
Please GTFO and bring in someone who's actually smart enough to care about their future, and throw dashcon under the bus where it obviously belongs. You're not going to redeem it here with us.
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>>7676643
>that loose corset
Please stop
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>>7676374
Why does she look so dirty.
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>>7676636
>tries to use the wrong minor to be funny or she doesnt remember 3rd grade english
fuck off but i guess no minors were there. but the ppl in the pic arent much better.
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>>7676639
Sauce please on WTNV's 'unprofessional conduct'. We have more of a reason to think you're a shill than trust you.
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>>7676643
if you showed me that picture with no explanation i would have no fucking idea what they were supposed to be representing.
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>>7676636

My god I would never fuck any of them.
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>>7676636
It's a...sex pun, right? I fucking wish I could just interpret it as a retarded misspelling but it's probably not
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>>7676641
This

Dashcon staff, get the fuck out.
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>>7676637
>non-New Movie Trek (since it's much better source material
My friend
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>>7676456
Not from what I've seen. I'm from /co/, and one of my seagull friends literally called me on the phone today to come to /cgl/ and see this. I can't thank them enough, this is amazing.
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>>7676643
the worst part is the girl on the right actually has a cute face. why would she dress like that and ruin it
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>>7676626
Everyone posted positively because we thought we hit a gold mine, we were finally getting the dirt, some was bailing ship, or that juice tid-bit of information that we all are craving and seeking.
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>>7676617
Tbh I agree with you. We should have paid them ahead of time.

It's all about the 'verbal contracts' again, where they agreed to be paid afterwards, but I honestly think that after what happened on Friday, they freaked and demanded it upfront.

I honestly don't blame them, but I just wish they would have waited for us to get them the money. We had it, after all, but like I said I don't blame them.
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>>7676643
nothing about this says Dean or Castiel, so fucking shitty
>>
wtnv are pretty chill people
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>>7676647
I handle multi-million dollar hotel contracts for cons. I think I know a thing or two.
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>>7676643
>>7676654
those are bustiers but oh god it wont even go on her boobs...
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>>7676643
>random tumblr word generators
So... no one had made a random word cosplay generator yet?
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>>7676643
I've seen three different photos of these lazy ass motherfuckers at this point, why the fuck do all of the dashfags think this is good cosplay????
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>>7676652
If you can provide the goods, not seeing a reason we should give you the attention you're apparently seeking.
>>
Disappointingly, it seems the staffers are just damage control for DashCon and aren't going to tell us anything interesting.

"But we've made so many friends!"
"But people have been so well behaved!"

Yeah.
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>>7676607
So how'd Gingerhaze end up having to room with WTNV then if you guys were so willing to pay for guests rooms? Why didn't you?
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>>7676639
But you're a staffer. Why would you stay out of the 'shitstorm' which is a guest having payment issues? Who cares if that isn't your 'fandom' or whatever, you promised attendees at YOUR convention (and yes it is YOURS since you are staff) a guest and you didn't deliver.

God both of you Staffers are coming of as complete entitled cunts

>if it isn't directly correlated to me idk lol
>idk what is happening lol
>well I hung out with my friends so idk lol
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>>7676652
We wanted a yes or no. Get the fuck out bitch, you have absolutely zero reason to get all high and mighty. You two are disgusting.
>>
Dashcon staff,
you shouldn't be shilling here

you should be packing money into your suitcases and fleeing into the night
leaving those gullible rubes at the hotel with the bill!
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>>7676668
"verbal contracts" don't mean shit. There's no proof.
First law of doing business: get fucking everything in writing
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>>7676672
So what's your take on the we need 17k/verbal contract/paypal debacle?
I think it's well known that the hotel wasn't actually taking PP donations and the con staff likely paid with PP debit mastercard. Anyway I'd like to hear your thoughts on this whole mess, and the letter that was posted if you saw it.
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>>7676674
they do, it's called homestuck
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>>7676554
>Why
Friends, just like ballpit. Kind of got conned (PUN) into it.
>Hotel
Yep.
>Money
IDK, that's Roxanne's job and thus far she's pretty much a huge see you next tuesday so doubtful
>Guests
After all the 17k shit last night I gave up on keeping tabs on the drama
>Property
None. I'm surprised too.
>Parents
Not my division.
>Panels
I assume so but for part of the day there were no door guards whatsoever a lot of volunteers bailed after last night
>Worst things
Got told by a girl she couldn't sit through the Pacific Rim panel because if she watched it with other people around she just 'WOULDN'T BE ABLE' to handle any snide comments. SMH.
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Arda did say at the beginning of the weekend that they would only be staying for two days so it's up in the air if they left because of the shittiness or not
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>>7676679
they're probably just gophers/light volunteer types.
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>>7676688

They packed up hella early today, like gone by 5pm early
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>>7676681
>expecting a random staff member to have access to high-level information
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Again, I think the problem with the staffers is that they're volunteers, not actual behind-the-scenes admins. I wouldn't be surprised if these two really DON'T care about what's going on behind the scenes and just wanted free passes to a dead convention.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's really very little staff besides the Admins. After all, GingerHaze had to moderate her own goddamn panel. There probably WAS no actual staff, and the Admins just expected everybody to be where they were supposed to be when they were supposed to be there.
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Dashcon shills too busy hiding the 17k into the ballpit balls to be transferred to a discrete location
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>>7676687
>she's pretty much a huge see you next tuesday so doubtful

So... basically no one knows what the fuck is going on with the money and the chick in charge has booked it? Wow.
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>>7676687
>watching Pacific Rim
...did they even pay for the rights to do that?
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>>7676687
So other than trying to save your poor excuse of a con's ass here, you literally did nothing except wasting naive people's money to cover the costs of your own travel and room.

Get the fuck out.
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These are by far, by FAR, the fastest /cgl/ threads I've ever seen. What a beautiful fiery clusterfuck.
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>>7676687
So wait you guys aren't even staff. You're volunteers who for some reason have staff badges. Have you guys even DONE anything this entire weekend?

I mean come on, use basic fucking logic. If the volunteers bail, you gotta pick up their slack. No door guards checking IDs? Guess what, you gotta do that shit now. That's the job of a 'staffer' or whatever the fuck you are.
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>>7676600
shill detected
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>>7676698
word is no, nor for Hetalia.
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>>7676698
hell no
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>>7676500
Yeah, I mean, really, does anyone on 4chan really hate furries anymore?
They make solid porn for a wide range of fetishes, generally acknowledge they're weird as fuck, and most of their trans members aren't cancerous. There's even a Popufur site that lists all the "best" furries on FA so you can get your porn income set up.
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>>7676624
All of those are out of my knowledge. I was given basic information to do my job (which I would still rather not get into details too because that would EASILY pinpoint who I am) and nothing else.

Room block is false. It was a fee that was 'verbally contracted' to be pushed back until second/third day or so, I believe. Not written so it was well within the hotel's rights to demand it on the first day.

No idea about pre-reg. Never had access to that.

Conchair, the one running the entire thing? Roxanne? Not 19.

No idea about investors.
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>>7676639
that's because no con has fucked up that big, to demand or need donation of 17k so it can stay open the day of the event. its quite fishy since most cons have this solved by the day of.
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>>7676679
A con this size would easily have ~50 staffers. Very few of them get to be involved in money matters.
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>>7676687
>she watched it with other people around she just 'WOULDN'T BE ABLE' to handle any snide comments

but she goes to a convention and the panel anyway. its like they talk this bullshit so much they believe it.
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>>7676695
>After all, GingerHaze had to moderate her own goddamn panel.
How awful.
How was it?
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>>7676708
Basically you weren't staff, you don't know anything, you didn't do anything, you just have a staff badge and sat around with your friends the entire time.

Neat.
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>imagine the guilty, searching stares on these two staffers'/volunteers' faces as they look their comrades in the eye tomorrow, trying to search out which one was the other person getting reamed on /cgl/

>>7676600
>>7676687
Only chance you guys have for even the slightest redemption is sharing what, if anything, either of you actually did, since you're both like "ohh i don't know about THAT, it's NOT MY DEPARTMENT hurr" and every staffer doing that all con was probably what lead to this mess
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>>7676715
As bad as her comic.
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>>7676696
My God
That explains the tape
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>>7676707
I think furries somewhat redeemed themselves, and also people moved onto new and more interesting targets. It's all about fedorafags and SJWs these days.
>mfw having a common scapegoat wasn't a bad idea
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>>7676701
Have you ever staffed a con? Staff members are limited to doing what their department heads tell them to. And staff/volunteer are used interchangeably because very few cons pay any of their staff members.
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>>7676512
I would own a fursuit just to drop it on people.
"I like your shirt."
"You should see my fursuit."
>Proceed to show them a quadruple dicknippled rhino suit
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Maybe the staffers aren't going into the nitty-gritty because they know that the Admins are watching.
Maybe they'll finally sling shit after Sunday.

>>7676715
I dunno, I wasn't there. All I know is that she left shortly afterwards.
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>>7676678
I'd still like an answer to this.
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>>7676593

Calm your tits, man. WTNV is a podcast, not a goddamn religious text.
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>>7676713
>mfw I'm staff for a con with 20K visitors and we literally have 60-60 staffers and everything runs smoothtly
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>>7676718
lmao oh good, someone else realizes the writing and pacing in Nimona is a goddamn mess. as a fellow comic maker, with too many standards, I just can't accept that, no matter how trendy the art style is and how marketable the ~sympathetic villain~ thing has gotten

Ginger as a person is nice enough though and has never done anything bad that I know of besides make a boring comic, I'm sorry this happened to her.
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>>7676727
I think they were talking about people complaining about WTNV's (completely justified) pulling out.
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>>7676701

>You're volunteers who for some reason have staff badges
DINGDINGDING WE HAVE A WINNER most of the staff are volunteers of course we wouldn't get paid

I did a lot of running work, door guarded for panels during the day, and ran panels when the panelists for those panels didn't actually show up

I wasn't scheduled to work this late and let's be honest with how bad the con is going there's no way me or ballpit could fuckin' save it

so hell yeah we'll fuck off to our rooms what else are we supposed to do, the only option is to hang out with the attendees
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>Accusations of extortion being shouted from the audience during the $17,000 fundraiser videos

Top kek
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>>7676722
What department heads?
As far as anyone can tell, the organizers were completely unorganized, contradicted each other, and rarely actually did any of their duties.
Most staffers had never even been to a con before and just sat around doing nothing, with only a few trying to pick up the slack.
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>>7676727
do you actually want to hear the shill defend their con not paying performers by ragging on said performers
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Ballpit and/or SMH:
Is it true that there is/was a wedding going on at the hotel where Dashcon is located?

Is it true that there are/were in fact two weddings?
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>>7676729
Is that including security? I've staffed cons half that size with twice that in security.
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>>7676719
OH MY GOD
SOMEONE FIND THAT BALLPIT RIGHT NOW
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>>7676722
>>7676713
If most of the volunteers supposedly left on Friday, they would have been shifted around. And the cons I have volunteered at at least had staff meeting every morning/shift so that people knew what the fuck was going on every day. Yeah there wasn't hour by hour updates but we knew the gist of every section.
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>>7676714

Yeah I would've slapped her but there's that whole 'hitting minors' problem and plus Pacific Rim no way am I gonna ruin that
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>>7676730
I meant lumberjanes, but nimona is pretty garbage too honestly.
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>>7676627
>>7676627
The debacle on friday, where everyone was collected into the main room for the donations.
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>>7676585
Dashcon
AKA the easiest game of Where's Waldo? ever.

Captcha: University Doodici
Dood.
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>>7676743
Okay so what was that like?
>>
this just got posted and i don't know where it came from or if it's legit, but it does appear to match the "letter" with most of the information whited out. this whole thing is hilarious
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>>7676742
ah, i've only seen a few pages of that but it didn't interest me. I thought she was only doing art for that though, not writing, so interpreted "her comic" as nimona

But no matter how many bad comics she makes they really screwed her over.
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>>7676732
>and ran panels when the panelists for those panels didn't actually show up
>volunteer ran panels
Oh, lord. All right, man, you HAVE to bite the bullet after that one. What did they make you run? Please?
It's not like you're getting paid for this anyway, you don't owe these people anything.
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>>7676737
Yeah, it's really well organised, everyone works in teams of 2 with headsets, there are usually 3 big halls so we're all spread out nicely and monitor the visitors while doing our jobs. 10 people are "heavy" security and 3 tech guys on bikes.
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>>7676725

>Maybe they'll finally sling shit after Sunday
Highly probable yo. Confirmed by both ballpit and me

I live four hours away from Chicago I'd like to start that drive at a decent time in the afternoon tomorrow

>>7676729

WELL YOUR CON ISN'T DASHCON NOW IS IT BRUH
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>>7676747
Unfortunately, no. The actual "letter" had "$20,000.00", with cents. This only has "$20,000" without the cents.
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>>7676708
>Room block is false. It was a fee that was 'verbally contracted' to be pushed back until second/third day or so, I believe.

I can explain this

as per written contract, the hotel has the right to demand the money at any point past the moment it's due. Everything after that is a "consideration" which can be removed at any time.

Usually hotels require 1/3 of the fee up front to guarantee the rental
(which would indicate the total fee is 30,000)

With room blocks, there are two approaches. Some shows get massive room blocks in order to offset the cost of the show. By promising to fill a certain number of rooms, the hotel discounts the rental rate, sometimes even comping it all together

The other way is by having just a straight rental fee, and the room block serves to guarantee that the hotel can hold enough attendees. If they cannot guarantee a large enough room block for the expected attendance, overflow hotels (which Dashcon had) are also booked.

Most likely this is the case, though a combination of the two happens as well.
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>>7676741
Did you guys even have permission to show Pacific Run?
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>>7676747
the thing I find most ridiculous about it (besides the content) is that they put their signatures below their typed names that's just not right.
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Autosaging!! thread starter chan?
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>>7676741
did you at least give her a "bitch please" look?
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>>7676755
Rim*
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>>7676757
We're still on page 1, for heaven's sakes, is that really necessary?
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>>7676755
Not the Dashcon anon but I'm gonna go out on a limb right here and say no.
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>Staffers are shills
>Con attendees are brainwashed sheeple

Will we ever get a true account of Dash Con?
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>>7676679

I've volunteered at cons and literally spent the entire time carrying chairs and standing and guarding some kind of door for some reason.

Most volunteers end up doing random shit that you could trust a trained chimp to do.

I'm not sure what it is you think volunteers do.
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>>7676729
most people refer to "staff" as pre-con staff, heads, AND general volunteer pool.
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>>7676708
Staff person. I have one question.

Is 17 yr old admin (i think her name is lochlan) okay? I heard she's really unstable...
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Why is it called Dashcon? I assumed at first it was a bunch of bronyfags making their own con because bronycon sucks.
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>>7676763
It seems to me like our guys here aren't really staff, just more like volunteers. They're not being paid or doing staffer things, but they're called staffers because...

...well, I guess because these people have never run cons before.
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>>7676755
>>7676759

word is, no.
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>>7676761
It's gonna drop quickly with the way things are going. It's more than halfway down already.
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Hey, look what I just found: http://www.dashcon.org/dashcon-2014-dvd/

>DashCon will be filming during the convention, and we would love to share what we capture with you! We'll be filming three different panels, and including the highlights, as well as providing exclusive content like guest interviews, attendee stories, and behind the scenes diaries! You'll be able to vote on two of the panels filmed for the DVD, making this DVD exactly what you want it to be!

>These DVDs will be available for pre order only and will ship mid to late August! The pre order cut off date is July 31st! You will receive an email when your items have shipped, please allow two to three weeks for shipping.

>What you need to know:

>Ordering Price-- $20
>2 hours of content
>Highlights of a select 3 panels-- 1 hour – The Night Vale Q and A, and two fan selected panels
>Extras-- 1 hour – interviews, behind the scenes, attendee stories, etc.

>This DVD is the perfect way to remember DashCon by, and it's a great way for those who can't make it to be part of the action!

Precious memories, I'm sure.
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>>7676767
[spoiler]Nice post #[/spoiler]
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>>7676755

I don't handle that shit but probably not I mean c'mon man do the math here it's a del toro movie wtf do you think

The panelist didn't even show up for it anyway
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>>7676757
*kun
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>>7676771
Because Tumblr was going to sue them if they kept the name 'Tumblcon', so they changed it to 'Dashcon'. Dash short for Dashboard.
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>>7676776
I WANT ONE
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>>7676775
Well, whoever does it, at least link the new thread, please.
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>>7676776
oh god yes
we need that dvd
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>>7676771
because the tumblr front page is called a dashboard.
thus
dashcon
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>>7676755
Is that a sequel?
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>>7676767
So was I, seriously.
Only the guests PA's were not included in my count of the staff. When you have good people who know what they're doing AND motivated, you can do a lot.
Crazy what good planning and technology can do.
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>>7676758

I told her in the most sickeningly sweet polite voice that perhaps if the panel was not to her taste she could go try out the ball pit
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>>7676771
tumblr DASHboard. it was gonna be called Tumbl-con. but the tumblr staff didnt want to be tied to it so they were ordered to change it twice.
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>>7676776
>Night Vale Q and A
but if that didn't happen, what the fuck are they going to put on there instead?
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>>7676786
>>7676781
That's dumb. `
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>>7676791
>>DashCon will be filming during the convention, and we would love to share what we capture with you! We'll be filming three different panels, and including the highlights, as well as providing exclusive content like guest interviews, attendee stories, and behind the scenes diaries! You'll be able to vote on two of the panels filmed for the DVD, making this DVD exactly what you want it to be!
>>These DVDs will be available for pre order only and will ship mid to late August! The pre order cut off date is July 31st! You will receive an email when your items have shipped, please allow two to three weeks for shipping.
>>What you need to know:
>>Ordering Price-- $20
>>2 hours of content
>>Highlights of a select 3 panels-- 1 hour – The Night Vale Q and A, and two fan selected panels
>>Extras-- 1 hour – interviews, behind the scenes, attendee stories, etc.
>>This DVD is the perfect way to remember DashCon by, and it's a great way for those who can't make it to be part of the action!
>>7676791
>implying the dvd is actually going to happen
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>>7676787
It's one of those cheap knock offs, trying to get steam on a success film
Like Transmorphers
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>>7676788
what TYPE of con is this?
that could be a very important factor
>>
So now that there's no ball pit, how are WTNV folk going to be comped?
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>>7676793
The name is probably the least dumb thing about the entire convention.
>tumblcon sounds fucking retarded anyway
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>>7676785
>>7676782
>implying they even filmed it
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>>7676791
don't you remember the description?
>"This is Not a Night Vale Panel. Do Not Attend This Panel. - The makers of Welcome to Night Vale will not be answering your questions. They will not attend this panel. Stare. Stare at the blank wall."
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>>7676784
Hopefully it's dashcon thread-kun, she's been doing this for the last five ( I think) and gave us this amazing thread image
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>>7676789
Wow yeah that ball pit sure was the highlight of the con.

Was there an entry fee for the ballpit because they were offering a free hour in the ballpit as compensation for the WTNV debacle?
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>>7676794
Oh no, you can't link to post no. 2!
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>>7676793
>They call it Boardcon
>ebin /b/ros and /pol/fags come and spill out 60 neo-shekels
>they meet a bunch of fat whales and harpoon and complete ruin the convention
>at the end a man with a fedora and fawkes mask walks up stage and says
>"we r legunz, ebin simply ebin"
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>>7676782
>>7676785
Honestly, I doubt it'll even be worth the material the DVD itself is made of.

>>7676791
Probably something else that will be determined to be illegal.
I hope that if the DVD does get made that somebody rips it and posts an ISO to TPB or something.
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>>7676381

>>7676381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_cOorXCBiQ

There we go.
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>>7676638
>>7676638
Not professional allegiance, but seriously, some of these admins are trying their hardest. They are genuinely doing their best to make things go smoothly (and again, this is the COMPETENT admins)

Call me soft, but I have pity and sympathy for those admins.

>>7676640
Did not happen. It went extremely smoothly. Other hotel guests did apparently complain about how weird we were though. This hotel is pretty nice really, so we were so out of its league, class wise.

The bathrooms?

They have fucking TVs in the mirrors.

>>7676641
I did work, but I'm not disclosing what I did since I don't want shit raining down on me since I did some specific shit that is easily recognizable.

As for saving dashcon's ass? AHAHAHHAH OH GOOD LORD FUCK MY SIDES THEY'RE GONE THEY'VE DIED AND GONE TO HELL

Nothing is saving dashcon.

This is venting.
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>>7676790
I don't think they were ordered, I think dashcon just wanted to avoid being sued.
Probably the smartest decision they've yet made, considering VERBAL CONTRACTS are not a real thing. Did SMH or Ballpit confirm they were verbal and that was incredibly stupid?
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Okay which seagull made this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxAeAo7duYc#t=17
>loud as fuck turn your speakers down
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>>7676799
>tumblroonies get dvd
>it's an apology because the cameraman forgot to turn on the camera
>followed by a bunch of iphone photos that were donated due to the lack of footage
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if anyone still cares, here's more news on the BDSM panel from someone who apparently went. still don't know what exactly they covered and if this person even knows what they're talking about.
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>>7676791
Yeah, what actually happened during this panel when they weren't there? Maybe ballpit or SMH just happened to be there while hanging out with their friends. Sauce please...
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>>7676735

I'm sure as hell not going to get hysterical about it. OP made a mild statement and responder kinda went apeshit on them. Just... really?

I want OP to stick around, even if they are a shill. That's more interesting.
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>>7676796
I can't name it exactly for contractual reasons, not allowed to talk about BTS and security details, but it's a comic-con type of convention in west Europe. Comic, cosplay, games and fantasy, the usual.
We work our asses off during those days, don't get me wrong and sometimes we lose a break hour because one hall gets busier than planned, but we make it work really well.
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>>7676682

>you should be packing money into your suitcases
Either that or the hotel candies they have around the con center because those things apparently are close enough to currency
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>>7676809
lol that pic
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>>7676809
>The bathrooms? They have fucking TVs in the mirrors.
>mfw I went to toronto and this is normal
America a shit
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>>7676776
>mfw it's on VHS instead
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>>7676812
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxAeAo7duYc#t=17
beautiful
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>>7676809
Doesn't really sound like venting at all to me.
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>>7676814
>they had some credentials

What does that even mean?
>>
>>7676800
...is that actually what they wrote for the description, at some point prior to the con? Because if so that is both hilarious and fortuitous.
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>>7676826
Isn't it a reference to one of their early podcasts?
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>>7676825
>Yes, I am a professional, I have my BA, my BSc and my BDSM
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>>7676677
This con was fucking shit.

Panelists didn't come to panels, things were cancelled, nightvale left, incompetence was rampant and there is nothing that is going to save this con.

We're human. We have friends, big woop. Wait until tomorrow, tomorrow people will probably spill a bunch of shit, more than what we're doing now. It'll be safer for us to come back tomorrow.

>>7676678
I have absolutely no idea. That was out of my jurisdiction.

>>7676679
Volunteers, both of us.
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>>7676825
"I handcuffed my boyfriend once"
"Yeah and I read a lot of fanfiction"
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>>7676817
well THERE'S your answer

You can't compare a comic con type show to something like this or an anime con, and you certainly can't compare west europe's cons to an american one.

We breed a special kind of ridiculous that requires a larger staff.

That ridiculous is both in the attendees AND the staff itself
>>
>>7676825
i have no idea. i anon asked the panelist if they could give any information on how the panel went. have yet to see a reply. their blog description says nothing about BDSM at all.
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>>7676810
i think that was the only smart thing they did. its funny because the tumblr staff have hosted meetups that went smoothly. but the unofficial ones were total trainwrecks.
>it could have been a great con if they had the staff's support.
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>>7676822
top kek
>>
>>7676829
>safer
What, exactly, are you thinking would happen to you if you were more open here now? They're not paying you anything. You're volunteers. What are they going to do, exactly, that has you so intimidated?
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>>7676829
>It'll be safer for us to come back tomorrow.
I fucking called it. The admins are watching.
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>>7676816
>thinks that's going apeshit on someone
Oh, my sweet summerchild
Go back to tumblr to cry about the crazy seagull ladies
Sage for OT
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>>7676682
I'm so fucking tempted. So tempted.

>>7676683
YUP. YEAH.

Please, tell that to the singular admin that handled all of that.
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>>7676815
i don't know for certain, i can't find source at this point but i did see people saying they sat there for an hour only to be told WTNV was cancelled.
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>>7676826
>>7676827
That's.. just normal for WTNV. A ton of their podcasts go in pretty much that exact format.
>here is a thing
>this thing does not exist
>ignore this thing
>ignore it
It's like lake woebegoen for conspiracy theorists and tumblers.
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>>7676810
Verbal contracts are a real thing when on record, with a recorder, video, or email. then it become equal to on paper. except when face to face and saying yeah doesn't hold up because anyone could have said anything.
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>>7676816
Saying "honestly I'm not surprised they walked out, look at all the ~other~ things they've (supposedly) done" and no other source or examples, after a group walks out because of nonpayment, is really...asking to be laughed off and bitched out.

lmao obviously the one person who called them a cunt (out of the dozen or so disagreeing posts) wasn't being very nice and PC, but /cgl/ is not generally a nice place.
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>>7676806

>entry fee for the ballpit
Your dignity and a waiver saying you weren't responsible for the diseases contracted by the homestucks

in all seriousness though no there was no entry fee so perhaps they meant that they would keep the ball pit open for longer JUST for those con attendees

I kind of want to find whoever wrote that (probably roxanne) and punch them in the face
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>>7676825

Usually they're associated with some kind of organization or club, have run BDSM cons, are actually involved in organizations that cater to the lifestyle, or even have real training instead of being self-taught--important for people who do shit like piercings, Japanese rope tying, and asphyxiation.

Basically, people who know what they're talking about.
>>
>internet backlash gets to the DC staff
>tell attendees that the haters are trying to get Dash Con shut down
>staff tell attendees to go to social media to 'set the story straight'
>shilling errwhere

These motherfuckers are crafty
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>>7676842
apparently it just turned into a bunch of people sitting around playing Cards Against Humanity
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>>7676836
it's 2 in the morning
do you really think they wanna be kicked out of their hotel room at 2 am?
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>>7676844
I knew that and have heard a few of them, just didn't realize this was a common panel description they used. It's still really funny considering how it panned out though
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>>7676840
so why the fuck are staff heads called admins?
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>>7676845
>verbal contracts are a real thing when in email
lol
I get what you're saying but it's not like somebody is going to send you a .wav file of legally incriminating information. When they say "verbal contract" that more or less means "no record of it"
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>>7676845
that depends on the state you're in, actually.
Texas has very specific rules about when a verbal contract is valid and when it is not.
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>>7676847
You're a really violent person aren't you?
Can't believe they let you be a staffer, what a disgrace, the entire thing.
How many of you are instable? You and the 17 y/o are already two.
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>>7676853
Yeah it's incredibly ironic
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>>7676844
Forgot whatever /x/ users are called.
I listened to the first episode, it was actually pretty ok but I don't usually go in for podcasts.
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Everyone's so determined to find the ball pit...

WHERE'S THE BOUNCY HOUSE?!
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>>7676776
i'll only buy it if it's done in a found footage horror movie style...
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>>7676846

Honestly I don't know shit about what happened with WTNV so I just blew off those questions but I've heard that behind the scenes they've been kind of shitty

Granted I've heard those things from other staffers so EXCUSES EXCUSES

Joseph Fink is kind of a pretentious douchebag though, I talked to him briefly and wasn't impressed.

Cecil is hella rad however
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>>7676861
>typing violent things on the internet makes you "unstable"
Shouldn't you be having a blast in the ball pit right now?
Seriously, that's more than a little silly.
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>>7676839

Oh for fuck's sake. I don't even have a tumblr. I don't even fucking know how it works because I am the oldest and grumpiest of oldfags that remember when livejournal was where stupidity collected.

But, in general, I reserve calling people fucking cunts for people who've actually, you know, done something really fucking cunty.

It harshed my drama buzz. Can't we just all be cool and keep our panties untwisted, and listen to the beautiful bullshit being spewed? Must we chase off our entertaining OPs, who are possibly shills, and can fill this thread with the most amusing bullshit?
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>>7676736
There are two weddings, yes. They went smoothly, no one bothered them. Very gorgeous wedding. I saw them set it up.

>>7676746
Check the videos on youtube.

>>7676747
Incredibly false, holy shit.

>>7676770
She's alive. I heard shit went down with her and she got a lot of shit on her tumblr but she's alive.
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>panel complaining about sexualization of women in media
>panel about "homoerotic subtext" and "finding the gay ship in your fandom!"

Yes because fetishizing gays is totally okay.
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>>7676847

You mean there was a closing and opening time for the ball pit? Truly amazing.
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>>7676867
holy shit, that'd actually be an amazing movie, even totally scripted.
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>>7676822
Not even. My bets are on either Laserdisc or Betamax.
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>>7676863
that's not what ironic means anon
you meant it's incredibly appropriate
The description is SUPPOSED to be ironic, because it's SUPPOSED to be a panel

So by not happening, it's the opposite of ironic.
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>>7676861

>You're a really violent person aren't you?
And you're on 4chan so let's not point fingers here

And I said I want to punch them in the face I didn't say that I actually will
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>>7676869
If you weren't giving me my money, I would seem like a pretentious douchebag too.
I mean, we're now talking to you briefly and you seem like the sandiest, opportunistic vagina ever.
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>>7676869
has 17 yr old admin keeled over yet
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>>7676566
dashcon admin detected
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>>7676867
I'd prefer it to be done more like a disaster film.
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>>7676869
Everything I've heard about the WTNV crew at cons is that they're pretty normal and nice people. Even Fink. So yeah, I'd think those "other staffers" are full of shit.
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>>7676684
You never ever do verbal contracts. This is exactly what will happen as the big guys will burn you when they see an opportune chance. It is a recipe for a disaster. Every single detail has to be in writing. I have to usually deal with months of negotiating to get every detail down then hand it over to lawyers for approval.

The people in charge did not have a budget at all. I think they had a vast attendance expectation which they thought was going to cover the bills but came up extremely short.

A con has to start with a backer with a reasonable expectation to be at a loss. They didn't do proper market analysis. The expectation of a first year convention is to have a reasonable entry point in pricing with a moderate amount of programming. Guests can not be the draw to bring people from the door. It has to be a complete package which this con did not offer.

PP debit is limited to $400 daily withdrawal unless you're a long time customer with good standing. It takes 3 business days to have it wired to an account.

The letter is was a terrible band-aid on a severed head. They should have folded it up on Friday then gone into financial hiding. They should have licked their salted wounds and move on instead of being filled with pride to endure a poorly run convention.

This will be quite damaging to ever see a Tumblr fan con. This will be like Las Pegasus which was quite detrimental to the brony community. It was after convention that all guests demanded high guarantees up front while the show started to decline in popularity.
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>>7676878
>implying they can afford Laserdisc
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>>7676865

At metrocon apparently
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>>7676874
to be fair, that's part of the reason gays have made as much ground as they have in recent years
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can we just get pictures of the dead ballpit please
that's all I want
that's all I'm asking for
please
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>>7676869
Joseph Fink is one of the sweetest men I've ever met. If he was acting off, it was probably because they were slowly realizing they weren't actually going to get paid jack squat for showing up to this poorly organized convention after having to pay their own travel and boarding expenses after finding out Dashcon wasn't going to. It was really rad of them to let Gingerhaze room with them after she wasn't going to be able to find a place to stay after Dashcon wouldn't pay for her room either.
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>>7676879
....it's...ironic that it's so appropriate when it was not intended to be?
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>>7676884
the only people I've seen talk shit about the WTNV people at cons are people involved with dashcon.

Either provide receipts or admit it.
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>>7676883

She's not an admin, she's just a special snowflake who was given a little extra privilege by Roxanne

Also an $800 flight from Denver

But you didn't hear that from me
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Who wants to bet the other staffers were pissy WTNV fans who got upset when their favorite podcast rightfully bailed out?
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>>7676891
No, no it is not.
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>>7676874
I saw a post saying despite the panel descrip (who knows who wrote it) that panel was staffed mostly be gay men and entirely by queer people. So couldve been worse
>mfw all the "gay men" were really 15yo tumblr trans boys
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>>7676899
I feel really bad for her. She's really pretty
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>>7676895
a battle of two shills
heaven and/or hell
let's rock
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