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Rei Ayanami Thread #115 - a e s t h e t i c

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Previous thread: >>2841869

Fixed and updated pastebin: http://pastebin.com/raw/F1mpZGZ8

>Pictures with multiple characters are fine here so long as Rei (Rei Q is not Rei) is in them. Feel free to request any image or theme!
>Feel free to chat about Rei and all Rei-related things, from merchandise to your own personal musings about the character!
>Discussion is allowed and encouraged. Try to post an image of Rei others might like!
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>>2842550
Politics in the OP most likely, let's move forwards.
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If Rei Q is not Rei then is Rei III Rei?
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>>2842560
Yes, Rei III has Lilith's soul and Rei has an experiential continuation of emotional ties from her second to third incarnation.
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>>2842569
>deny the canon of the movies in general
Rebuild is, at best, third tier canon below the original series and EoE.

Even the manga has more relevance to the canonical plot of the TV series. There is no flying "Wunder" base in first tier Eva canon for example.
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>>2842575
>I will reply to posts made days ago tomorrow sometime
Ok?
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>>2842560
>Rei Q has a completely different soul
>Rei III has the same soul as Rei II and Rei I
You tell me

>>2842569
Put your trip back on Qshitter.
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>>2842606
Can you make one like this but with
>Asukafags
>Are faggots
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>>2842615
Post the gore one next.
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Last post was deleted for LITERALLY, no reason.
Again,
>>2842560
Rei Q is PART Rei, but not all of her. While she should be accepted amongst Reifags as she is a piece of the puzzle that makes up their best girl, they do not. The group in this thread, specifically, deny the canon of the movies in general.
Please post her in the "Other Eva Cuties" >>2830247
thread if you want to post her. There are already some cute pics of her over there.
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>>2842631
I can see it's (You)!
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Have you Reifags seen this?
http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-9802/msg00101.html

>AH: The correspondence between Hollywood and Japanese anime/manga is
another interesting story, but there were so many, many cases like this:
for example, it is known that James Cameron's >>T2<< was influenced by the
manga >>Kiseijyu<<. Again, this was not the potential of Japanese Anime.
In my view Anno opened up this potential. You know, he uses very
stereo-typical characters in >>Evangelion<< such as Shinji, Asuka, Misato,
although Rei is very exceptional, no doubt. He succeeds in using these
stereo-typical characters [no facial particularities, no individual
characteristics] by describing the 90's. I was so surprised to see
>>Evangelion<< because... you know Murakami Ryu...

>KW: Anno likes Murakami?

>AH: He likes >>Ai to Gensso no Fashism<< [The Fascism of Love and
Fantasy].

>KW: Yeah, exactly that novel because he uses the same names for Shinji's
school friends as Murakami did in this novel.

>AH: However Anno is most interested in the character that is named Zero.
Maybe Rei is Zero, as "rei" in Japanese means actually zero/0.
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>....This is why I was so
surprised by >>Evangelion<<: the concept of angels, or the character Rei
are very new. As you said before Rei is a typical figure who was oppressed
and suffers self-disclosure.

>1) KO-GIRL, 2) OTAKU, 3) AYANAMI REI...

>KW: What is in your view the most specific aspect of Rei's character?

>AH: Until now there were only two types with the characteristics just
mentioned. One is the so-called Ko-girl [ko=baby]. As you know there are
so many Japanese high school girls who work as call girls, using
technological gadgets for their clothes. Their families are not poor at
all; family life is happy, but...They earn a lot of money in the
prostitution business, and spend it all on expensive cosmetics and
clothes.

>KW: Could Rei be a character in one of Murakami's novels?

>AH: I don't think that Murakami could make such a character.

>KW: But take for instance Murakami's >>Almost Transparent Blue<< where the
characters are driven with negativity, self-destructive,..
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>AH: He describes a negative drive, but the characters are supported by so
many commercial and materialistic things such as money, drugs, cultural
products. But Rei has no relationship with materialistic/commercial
things. Her solitude is based on pure material such as the concrete walls
in her room, or the dirty floor. She has no clothes other than her high
school uniform. Again, in the Japanese intellectual discourse there are
two types of children's solitude. One is Ko-girl and the other is Otaku.
The Ko-girl is social and surrounded by commercial products. Otaku are not
social but surrounded by commercial things.Both are characteristic for
their dependence on media-networks: Ko-girls use telephones to find their
customers, while Otaku fill their room with computer software, videos, or
magazines to seperate themselves from reality.
I think that those two types are, in a Japanese context, two poles of the
80's ornamentality. Rei represents a new type of solitude. Materialistic
and excluded from commercial things.

>KW: On the other hand Rei's character is quite realistic, whereas
>>Pinocchio<< is completely removed from reality, the fantastic character
of a dream.

>AH: I think that Rei is even an international character.
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>>2842743
>Rei has no relationship with materialistic/commercial things. Her solitude is based on pure material such as the concrete walls in her room
>Rei represents a new type of solitude. Materialistic and excluded from commercial things.
Someone explain
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>>2842813
Thinking about it Rei does have a lot of environmental storytelling
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>>2842809
It's like since Rei doesn't rely on technology like computers or clothes, goods from our modern society, but instead faces solitude in the most pure and raw way possible, it gives off a much more human feeling.

It's hard to explain, but this is what I think.
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>>2843203
It reminds me of the Buddhist philosophy: Survive, don't thrive.
Where in order to achieve enlightenment, denounce everything but the absolute necessities. Once you can live without these extraneous things, only then do you possess true strength.
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>>2843435
Or rather, she's never been given the opportunity to experience what it's like to have those things. Even more sad.
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>>2843473
>you will never give rei all the things she never had
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>>2843492
Because she hasn't experienced the joy of befriending someone.

Meeting Shinji made her realize it is something of value to her, even if her life is forfeit. She did think it had a point once she experienced it.
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>>2842546
>Pictures with multiple characters are fine here so long as Rei (Rei Q is not Rei) is in them.

And yet the little tyrants had
>>2842575
deleted.

Pathetic.

Guess I'll just wait to mark my calendar for Rebuild 4 when the fact that Rei Q is Rei is established beyond doubt just as no one doubts Rei having cute hair.
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Do you dream anons? What does rei dream off? I want to dream about rei but i havent dream in a long time.
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>tfw Mogudan has been a Reifag longer than I have
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>>2843546
>Rei appears a lot, and I mean a lot, in women's magazines. I flicked past a couple of them, and she's always high up if not #1 in characters they like, or want to be like. In this case, it's an article about anime characters "they'd like to learn from", or similar.
Rei is cool and mysterious. She's also an anti-girl with an anti-style while simultaneously being very girly with an iconic design. It's no wonder all the qts like her.
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>>2843546
Last time I was here I could have SWORN you were all arguing with some anon and crying about how Asuka was more popular than Rei.
Nice to see that, yet again, you were ruthlessly berating and tearing down someone while being wrong.
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>>2843780
I was arguing that Asuka got a lead over Rei for a short while right after Rebuild 2.22 came out and kept this lead for some time after Q.

It means that that if Asuka was less popular before and after, but in between rebuilds she has been a front runner.

Its a direct evidence that Rebuilds openly pander to Asuka and shit on Rei.

Although they lost the lead so quickly it means her fanbase is seasonal waifu fags who dont care which tsundere to fap to, while Reifags are significantly more loyal and dont disperse even without getting any pandering at all.

Why cant women do math?
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>>2843787
There are more Asucucks on MAL than Rei fans. It's one of the reasons I don't want to use this service anymore.
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>>2843728
You bring up a good point.

The majority of anti-Q here no doubt already know Rei is Rei. Rei Q has a mental link with Shinji forged at the end of Rebuild 2 and Rei reclaiming Shinji's music player will lead to her regaining her full soul in Rebuild 4 but The Cult won't allow the blasphemous truth to be spoken.

But then, maybe the mods will stop rewarding the hateful temper tantrums against people posting Rei in Rei threads.
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>>2843849
Not the point you think it was. It has been mentioned for you several times that your points regarding the SDAT or the telepathy you insinuate arent valid insofar proving or demanding that Rei Q is Rei.

You have been given multiple chances vy multiple participants to move on to a higher level of debate. But you are more than content with repeating yourself while insulting everyone else.

Despite having advertised a comeback for an entire week, you only stop by to attack Rei fans. No one will respect that sort of dishonesty.
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valentine's day is coming up!
what are you planning?
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>>2843885
Something involving a noose and chair.
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>>2843896
I love you anon, have my rarest Rei.
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Happy Valentine's Day guys.
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>>2843491
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>>2843736
I dream about Rei all the time
feels pretty good desu senpai
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>>2844194
>you will never rise to power and bankrupt the entire economy for rei-chan
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>>2842546
Rei listening to Kino.
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>>2844673
Is this kino?
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>>2844741
That's a reference to the Mawaru Penguindrum opening.
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>>2844733
>2th angel
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>>2844784
>when the west dies these people will be in charge of our heritage
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>>2844784
>twoth angel
tooth angel!
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>>2844897
Rei is the tooth fairy confirmed. Someone should tell her she doesn't need to pay us to give her the bone.
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happy valentines day rei and rei-enthusiasts
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What was Anno thinking with Rebuild? All the characters have been turn into shit.
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>>2844995
He wants to kill waifuist EVA fanbase and replace it with Transformers fanbase and to get paid for it, no characters just exploding helicopters now.
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>>2845029
Meanwhile he pulled out all the stops to put in that shit fujoshit romance, god 3.33 is so fucking shit.
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>>2845029
>He wants to kill waifuist EVA fanbase and replace it with Transformers fanbase
10/10
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>>2844733
What is it? A video? Or just somebody's art in Shaft style?
Source?
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>>2845275
>this butthurt Roastie
It's like you dont like it in here but too butthurt to let it go
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>>2845316
Those are big
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>rei will never ride your baloney poney
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>>2845042
Right? To this day I still haven't watched that Eva episode all the way through. Can't stand gay shit.
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As shit as Rebuild is, I actually like that Shinji immediately stopped giving a shit about Rei Q upon finding out that she wasn't "his" Rei. He told Rei that no one could replace her, and he meant it.
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>>2845853
Give me fashion-Rei or give me death.
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>am gay
>still love rei more than anything

how does that work?
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>>2846595
>underwater
>hair still perfect
AT Field hax
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In a dark and confusing world, you burn brightly, I never feel lost
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>>2845545
That episode was just gay filler, you could take that episode out and you wouldn't notice a difference.
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>>2846631
>>2846692
It especially feels like Rebuild is that Kaworu filler episode but made into animated movies.

Because of this he essentially decided to shit on the waifuists Whether you like Rei Ayanami, Asuka or Misato. You get screwed. Anno has long hated them.
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What the fuck is this shit?!
Japan is still making figures of this fake insult, and it's actually selling?!

>>>/a/153595329
>>>/a/153596002
>>>/a/153596104
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>>2846716
He himself is an Asukafag "waifuist" and has been purposely erasing all the shitty aspects of her character in NGE to make her perfect and flawless in Rebuild.

All because he's jealous that Rei is superior. It's disgusting and Asukafags should be ashamed for gobbling it up like the pigs they are.
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Stop hating Q. Rei just wants to be herself again.
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>>2847887
We know you're that Asukafag from /a/ who's trying to deflect.

We haven't forgotten what you fuckers have done to us, you can't pull up a distraction.

Asuka has not been "reduced", she's been "expanded" all so Anno can have her be more popular than Rei. Accept this fact.
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>tfw too intelligent to argue
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>>2848196
What's in the bag?
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>>2848207
Something!
She wont give it.
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>>2847903
>Asuka has not been "reduced", she's been "expanded" all so Anno can have her be more popular than Rei. Accept this fact.

This.
They turned her from a a sick bitch into a run of the mill tsundere which is an impreovement.
Havin lost a bunch of negative qualities, emotional baggage and gaining action scenes, exploding helicopters and new sexy suits she became a more likable, more popular character.

Ayanami Rei had massively lost in her strong suits and gained literally nothing.

Rebuild has left nothing of that intellectual and mystical appeal of hers.
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>>2847903
Not true, he ruined Asuka's character and made her a minor character. Making her a dyke too.

>>2847903
I'm trying to get Asukafags and Reifags to unite against this tyranny, we have alot in common you know.

Time to put aside the rivalry.
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>>2848398
All We need is Q fag out of here.
Asukafags need not apply.
What can they even offer us?
Why would we want to be friends with them?

Besides most old school Asukafags have sudoku'd already and the red bunch loves the fuck outta Rebuild, who needs a character when you can have a hat?
Voices like "old Asuka is fucked up, I like the new one" have long became dominant on their side.

All We need them for is so we could point at them and say "see? that is why we must never accept Q, she will not divide us".
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>>2848665
Oh yeah I have heard that "will not divide us" in another context and it was as laughable there as here.

Reality doesn't go away no matter how much you reject it.

Too tired to find a Rei questionable image so have some delicious Misato.
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>>2849303
The difference is that Shikinami has completely erazed Sohryu, in the same time Ayanami is still getting figures with the spear of longinus which she never held in Rebuilds.

Get rekt pussy ass Asucuck and stay rekt you lost We didnt, your waifu is lost and forgotten ours isnt. I always knew Reifags were going to out last you, your waifu is shallow and so is your affection with her.

You have my permission to squeal.
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>>2848196
hopefully some drawing skills. fuck. that anatomy is shit
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>>2849353
What anatomy? Shes wearing clothes.
What do you mean?
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>>2848665
Except that Q haso literally divided you retards while Asuka fans are accepting of eachother. There are occasional arguments but never the multiple thread shitting up, 'ur not a REAL asucuck,' 'anyone who disagrees with me isn't a true fan' bullshit you all spout against one another.
Reifags are the bottom of the barrel, disgusting, retarded, most judgmental 'fans' of any series.
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>>2849355
the baby sized arms
the rekt wrists
the one eyebrow crossing over the middle of her face
the bulky clothes to cover up the fact that u have no idea where to end the waist and start the hips
if you think anatomy can't be seen because of clothing you are a dip shit
take some drawing classes before you get into digital to coverup ur fails.
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>>2849356
>implying you're not a hater or a condescending Asucuck who pretend to care about Rei to feel superior

Q didnt divide Reifags, she united us against herself.

Not a single person who ever adored Rei would ever enjoy a Pod Person that Q is.
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>>2849357
Mistress Faggot undercover?
Post your art.

I heard you were some sort of an artist, I fucking dare ya, ill redline the shit out of your filthy Asucuck ass.
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>>2849357
What?
Pussied out?
Ran away already?
And dont come back Asukahole.

Now i know whos behind a bulk of Q shitting.

I'm gonna take your art, overpaint it better than you did and make it Rei.
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Getting really tired of you guys bringing up my name every time some anon makes you butthurt.
You might take note that I speak actual English and don't type like a fucking 12 year old on Facebook.
If I had art crits I wouldn't be giving them out on 4chan unless someone asked. I also wouldn't be such a dick about it. I went to art school - I'm aware of how to give proper constructive criticism. This kid isn't bad, but does have some room for improvement. Every artist does.
Being online at the same time as other people doesn't make them me any more than it does you.
Leave me out of your fucking shit fests with the Q fags.
Have a Rei and chill out. And stop feeding the fucking trolls. Jesus.
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Reichan is asking you "Anon-kun, I want to know what you like, can I borrow the last book you're read?"
You cannot refuse Reichan and hand over the book.

What does she think?
How fucked are you?

I think she would like Blindsight, but wouldnt agree with Watts's message.
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>>2849387
How much does she like 20th century history?
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>>2849387
>anon why are you reading some alexandrian scholar from 1800 years ago
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>>2848211
>>2848196
What is in the bag? I wanna see.

>>2848398
Wont work, as Asukafans very much enjoy the current state of things.
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>>2849451
>What is in the bag? I wanna see.
It's a Secret!
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>>2849457
Tell us now!
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>>2849368
I would never offend your art. The one who does ITT is doing it more because he is angry. Dont fall for his trolling. Ive seen you art and I like it.

What I dont like is asukafaggotry.
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>>2849387
She would be reading "How to make ideas stick". An interesting book about what people remember and dont.
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>>2849358
What about Mogudan?
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>>2849356
It hasnt divided us at all, though. Notice how the few who post Rei Q are people who also dislike both Rei and everyone else in the thread?

They dont identify as Rei fans, and so they are not "us". Then like everyone knows, Asuka in rebuild is catering to Asuka fans.

The only Asuka fans who object to Shikinami are the Asuka fans who have been shamed into doing do, because they have been made conscious of how shallow Asuka is, and they know the character isnt like Asuka at all. So liking Shikinami is tantamount to admitting that NGE Asuka was a failure.

Have a Rei pic.
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>>2849368
>>2849459
Uh, had a misunderstanding there. Thought it was you.
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>>2849463
Even he isnt drawing a lot of Q.
What about him?
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>>2849469
>>2849459

It happens. I get frustrated that I keep getting dragged into shit. I've been leaving you all alone since you hate me so much and I've spent this week working and vomiting all over and I'm pretty sure I'm delirious with fever (thank god it's my weekend) so the last thing I wanna hear is that somebody wants to deface my art to get back at some stupid anon.
I still watch the threads to collect Rei pics, so it's not like I don't know that my name gets tossed around. Anyway, going to sleep. Have a good day. Share some Rei. Enjoy life and stuff.
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>>2849464
>Notice how the few who post Rei Q are people who also dislike both Rei and everyone else in the thread?

Again you can't make reality change by mere assertion. And that isn't even getting to the logic flaw where you create a tautology about requiring an irrational hate of Rei Q to be considered a fan of Rei.
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Rei seems like the most popular character in Evangelion
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>>2849506
To be honest though, we do get a lot of Asuka fan trolls. Who then later brag about their shitposting on other boards.

Your name comes up in telation to that because, well, it does read like it is you. Similar posting style and all. Whether it is you or not, keep that in mind. Earlier you threw off a long tirade against everyone in this thread, and when that happens again people will make an assumption.

Trust me on this: the anger at the treatment of Rei over the years is very real, and very justified.
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>>2849514
>irrational
Heed your own words please. The dislike of Rei Q and indeed, Q in general is as rational as you can get it. Its normal and healthy to be upset when you, someone or something has been wronged.

You yourself has shown blatant dislike for the original Rei on more than one occasion, particularly in the past. It is safe to say that you arent a fan.

>>2849547
It is hard to say. The original Rei, yes. But even in Japan, Asuka is more popular among the anime loving audience. The Eva fanbase in particular.

It is because as of now the last EVA entry that worked "normally" in Rei's favor as a character, came out in 2009, which is 8 years ago.

Every Rei fan knows that it is pointless to follow EVA or have any expectations whatsoever, because Anno is a Rei-hater. The new fans also know this, and know that the best they will get is Rei being present, the insulted and thrown aside. Only made worse by the fact that Asuka and Kaworu fans are pandered to, as salt in the wound.

So popular and liked by the public, but reviled by the loyal followers of Anno.
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>>2849576
But I thought Rei was more popular in the East, Asuka in the West. And the Asuka thread is only at #89
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>>2849451
I've talked to many Asukafags, they don't like how they made Asuka a lesbian. The only ones that like the new one are yurifags and tumblrettes.
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>>2849591
It's much healthier than Asushin, they should be happy
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>>2849601
But aushin is healthier when it was portrayed in 2.22, she didn't mind talking to Shinji and making him dinner. Shikinami is a different character.

Asuka fans hate Mari, because well... she's an awful character.
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>>2849581
The correct expression would be Asuka is more popular in the west than Asuka is in the East.
Asuka isn't more popular than Rei anywhere at all.

As for what i said a couple threads back about Rebuild boosting her temporarily as a seasonal waifu for a lot of people who got a new waifu next season.
Only a few characters yeild fanbases with connections that go deeper than a fetish or a passing crush.

It requires unique traits about character itself, wearing a sexy transparent suit just isn't enough.
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>>2849591
The "OLD Asukafags" were the ones that protested Shikinami back when 2.22 came out.
Their voices got lost very soon.

I for one was one of the few who protested pokanami and a dumbed down version of Rei in 2.22.
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>>2849634
Isn't that the reason they made her edgy tsundere around Shinji in 3.33 to appeal to those? In 2.22 Asuka was just a sweet girl-next-door type, doing nice things for people and getting jealous of Rei's relationship with Shinji.

They pretty much made her into a Tohsaka Rin in Rebuild.
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>>2849576
>The dislike of Rei Q and indeed, Q in general is as rational as you can get it.

There is a difference between a rational dislike of Rebuild 3.33 and the irrational dislike that several people in these threads have shown.

I've said many times I found Rebuild 3 to be a mess of a story. I'm not a particular fan of the story the Rei only has part of her soul but I guess after the way Rebuild 2 ended there isn't much else that can be done with the story. Having Rei return and still be completely Rei without some effects to overcome would be worse than Shinji having to do more weird stuff to unify Rei's soul.

That is rational analysis.

Irrational is "Waaah I hate this so much I don't care if the title is Rei Q is Rei I am going to pretend the world inside my head is the only world that exists."

It is insane that Asuka fans can recognize Asuka even with a name change and Rei fans think keeping Rei's name the same is somehow proof the character is now someone different.
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>>2849635
Turning Tosaka Rin into a batshit crazy dyke on meth doesnt help her cause too much either.

Original was more of a truly evil sadist rotten to the core with a brainfuck backstory to feel bad about the bitch, than a psycho on speeds.
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>>2849651
Your rationale is weak.
You assume too much and base it on nothing.

Q is a braindead Pod Person made intentionally to piss off Reifags and get cash for it. She's made out of a dummy plug and moldy cheese.
>muh mental link
It was a fucking loudspeaker, the crerw of the ship dint flinch because they were aware of it coming anyway.
And they dint tell him because the entire plot is based on everyone's terminal stupidity.
>Muh picked up player
"Master lost something have to pick it up"
"Ohh shiny"
"I wonder if i can trade it in for some crack and a dick up my ass"
Any of these.

And whether or not they will or will not use her as a tool to respawn Rei, SHE ISNT ONE RIGHT NOW.
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>>2849658
>Q is a braindead Pod Person

Pretending Rebuild 3 ended after 45 minutes counts as ignoring reality. Everyone else in Evaverse treat Rei like your side does as some clone without value while me and Shinji and a few others recognize the worth of Rei Q who is Rei incomplete.
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>>2849591
You have only talked to a few.
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>>2849651
You didnt argue why your view was rational. Therefore, you fail.

Your view is irrational because you are looking aside from the fact that Rei Q's character is irreconcileable with Rei. They are two characters, Rei Ayanami and reiayanami (tentative name) respectively. This is what Rei Q is credited as.

Then, they do not share character development, nor is there anything bridging the character.

It is not just Rei Q, it is the rest of Q as well. While you try saying that there was nothing more to do after 2.0, you merely out yourself as a Rei-hater, yet again. After 2.0, Rei would have to face her new relationships and her growing discord with NERV. Something 3.33 robbed the character of. There is zero development.

Long stort short, all they have in common is thr appearance. That alone does not make Rei, Rei.

When Asuka fans accept Shikinami as Asuka, and not the wildly different characters they are, they are going along with the fanservice as usual.

High time you admit that you arent a Rei fan. God knows no one believes you are.
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>>2849703
He is right. Rei Q was shown to be extremely unintelligent and uninformed. The character has no development either. It does not do anything different at the end of the movie than it did at the beginni g.

It literally cannot have development at this stage because you know nothing about Rei Q. Rei Ayanami has development in NGE because we clearly establish a reason for why she behaves as she does. Not only that, we also know why she clings onto the status quo. Because of Gendo personally saved and affected Rei, she is loyal.

Rei Q has only one function: ruin Rei's character. Now Rei III is impossible, and Rei II never got the development she needed before the finale.

To boot, having more than one Rei weakens Rei compared to NGE, where she was a unique existence.

This is some of the reasons Rei Q, or indeed Rei in Rebuild will never be considered Rei in my eyes. Only 1.0 and 2.0 has parts that fit with the original.
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>>2849629
Asuka fans dont hate Mari. Only a few do. Asuka/Mari is extremely popular no matter how you slice it. Even Evageeks is in favor.

>>2849581
Thread numbers do not really matter. Its a common belief that Asuka is more popular in the west, which way very well be true. The western fanbase is largely comprised of otaku, while Evangelion is accessible to almost all of Japan.
Particularly in the 90's, one did not simply "watch evangelion". You had to order either a bootleg VHS with subtitles that made no sense, or wait for ADVs release. In other words, one would need to be an otaku to get i to Evangelion.

In Japan it would help, but anyone could get exposed. Even non-otaku.

So the point is that otaku always had a preference and appetite for energetic and cliche girls. Otaku Japan always liked Asuka a lot. Rei has always been liked by a broader range of people, which is why Rei seems more popular in large surveys, but Asuka fans dominate otaku areas like 2ch and similar.
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>>2849894
Yeah, We get it.
Asuka is more popular on Evageeks because you kick all Reifags outta yiur site and pretend they dont exist.

Rei is more popular on 4chan, other imagebiards and among people I know.
And even more popular in Japan. Now that Moot is dead nobody's gonna protect your sore ass hole.

The only places where Asuka is leading is the Asukafsg safe space.
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>>2849895
Evageeks is a shithole, dont lump me in with those people. Rei > Asuka by the way.
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>>2849897
You sounded a lot like "greetings fellow Reifags"
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>>2849895
Honestly Asuka has always seemed more popular here, but it could just be that her fans are more vocal about it, which would make sense I guess. Also it could be that because I prefer Rei seeing another anon that prefers her seems normal to me, whereas a poster that prefers Asuka sticks out as abnormal.
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>>2849924
Every thread on /a like yesterday is just a handful of Asukafags screeching "Asuka Asuka" while Reifags are having long discussions with many different points of view and many posts within 30 seconds.

Its like a lot of people talking and two asshats are disrupting it.
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I read once Asuka has more fans on MAL because people kept making multiple accounts. Anyone have the link to that?
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>>2849566
Similar posting style? I've never posted like a special ed 14 year old who can't type in complete English sentences.
I only "threw of a long tirade against" people is because THIS stupid shit keeps happening. This and the fact that you are all so entirely intolerant of everyone who has even the smallest disagreement with your opinions. Everyone has been so rude and hostile over fictional characters - it's total B.S.
Don't take your anger about the treatment of your waifu (who I also adore) on me just because I'm the only person you can put a name to.
(sorry for no file, 4chan is being fucking retarded)
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>>2849786
He's already admitted that he's a Misatofag a long time ago aka a meaningless centrist with no taste.

>>2849924
>>2849929
Asucucks are 50x more vocal than Reifags, and there's the fact that newfags on here want to parrot that faggot cuck moot and his awful taste.

I'd say the split on here is equal. On Evageeks (and reddit) though it's unarguably an Asucuck majority because forum formats attract normies and encourage circlejerking.
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>>2849939
>On Evageeks (and reddit) though it's unarguably an Asucuck majority because forum formats attract normies and encourage circlejerking.
Kek no.
Reiddit recently got reianimated by a new mod and blew up eclipsing Asucucks 900/700 subs within a month since it rei opened.

Evageeks is just owned by red fags and they kick the blue out.

Asuka is less popular than Rei everywhere, unfortunately her followers are about as loud as their idol.
But look her thread is just a dilent dumping running slow and drops off the board from time to time.

Asucucks are like that saying "the smaller the dog the louder it barks"
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>>2849949
That reddit sub is pretty awful. They allow Q, have no qualms with garbage content, mod doesn't do shit in terms of quality control etc. And more importantly, it's overrun with normies who circlejerk about some of the most inane bullshit. That place used to be good back when it was around 300-400 subs but after it hit 500 shit when down the drainhole faster than Rebuild did.
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>>2849949
Maybe, but I do share the concerns of >>2849958
concerning Rei Q.

>>2849933
That is certainly the case. I googled it for you:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=245618&show=1189#msg34394559

It's worth noting that, on all anime sites, Rei was was ranked far higher than Asuka. They were really desperate for Asuka to win, it seems.

>>2849934
Well, who exactly is there to take our anger out on? You do understand that an Asuka fan, a member of the group who wants Rei and Rei fans so ill, is a prime target? Particularly if you defend Rei Q, as doing that more or less means you say what was done to Rei is "OK" when it's not.

It's not simply because we can put a name to you, your fate was sealed the second you say that you "like Asuka more", and posted some Rei Q. If you ask me, there's only one recourse and that is accepting that Rei Q is part of a long-standing crusade against Rei's character coming from the authors.
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>>2850035
Oh get a fucking life. Leave my out of your soap opera.
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>>2850105
Stop coming here to post and defend Rei Q then. It's that simple. You're the one at fault here.
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>>2849939
>He's already admitted that he's a Misatofag a long time ago aka a meaningless centrist with no taste.

A Misatofag,huh. So even Misato fans bought into the Q empowerment pandering, huh? Misato "The Captain" Katsuragi?
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>>2849949
There is data to suggest that Asuka is more popular in some areas, if not all areas save for a few in 2017.
It is a natural but unfortunate side effect of how Evangelion has been used as a pandering device for the past 15-17 years or so. Asuka being popular is what I'd call a symptom.
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No one loves Rei as much as me!
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>>2850497
>implying
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What's with the Sadamoto manga? I remember I was reading it sometime in 2011 or so when it still wasn't ended. I still haven't read the ending chapters, but I heard that the ending was bad for Rei. I mean, is it true? Tell me what happened in this ending, I don't even mind spoilers. I just always thought Sadamoto was a Rei guy. I mean, it's obvious that Rebuilds will end bad for Rei, but has Sadamoto actually joined the Rei-hating train wagon too?
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>>2850679
Not really. It's a much more definite ending for her personally, but there's a lot more focus on her and choosing it. She just doesn't get what she deserves, no Rei gets back what she gives.
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>>2850679
The ending was pretty shit overall. The last quarter of the Sadamoto manga takes a nosedive in quality, be it writing or art.

Essentially nothing happens after Rei II dies, except she rejoins with Lilith, and then for some reason, Yui is in control rather than Rei. Then she blows up and becomes snow.

Don't listen to >>2850711
he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. There was ZERO focus on choice at all, which was the problem.
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>>2850608
Prove me wrong!

I love Rei the most. It's fact.
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>>2850860
Post a lewd Rei then.
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>>2849949
Asuka is popular on /ptg/ threads on /pol/
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>>2849894
Anno hates Mari, and he's the biggest Asukafag of them all.
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>>2850867
>delet this
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>>2850868
>Anno hates Mari, and he's the biggest Asukafag of them all.

No source for that. Anno has so far used Mari to popularize Asuka in the most cynical manner. Mari will never become a character proper because of that, she'll always be "lesbian addon-character".
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>>2850893
That's false, they put Mari in at a producers request. There is a quote that they have no idea how to use her and to get her scenes because they have to wrap up the story.

There was even a huge thread about it a few days ago on /a/
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>>2850867
Nah, she's just a dumb meme.

Last time i tried to stir shit up Asukafags got BTFO their own thread
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>>2850920
Then why is there NatSoc gear on Asuka and none for Rei?

Even cripplechan has lot of Asukafags.
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>>2850867
>>2850925
Nah, it's just another case of them being extra vocal. Nothing new really, I've also seen a good amount of Reifaggotry on there as well. More NatSoc fanart is probably due to the demographics of the fanartists rather than the actual demographic of the fans in general.

So basically there can be an even split of Reifags and Asucucks on /pol/ but there might be more fanartists in that split on the Asucuck side than on the Reifag side.

Have a MAGA rei.
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>>2850898
No, it's true. Mari may have been put in at a producers request, but how she was used is up to Anno.
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>>2850925
>>2850929
Rei + black nazi outfits do not fit. Fits neither the character nor its appearance.

If you like Rei in black, go watch Q.

>>2850898
The producer can only suggest. In this situation Anno owns the studio, the project, he is the Director of Khara, who also posessed a veto right in the creative process.

It was suggested that a new girl was brought in. Not a bad idea per se. But then Anno used Mari not as a character, but a device to make Asuka hip with the yuri crowd. This is evident since 2.22, particulalrly the CRC book.

Mari's character never mattered, because Anno only had this in store for her.
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>>2851033
>>2851015

>This is evident since 2.22

You mean like how they made Asuka have a crush on Shinji? I don't recall them ever interracting in 2.22.


Read the quote by Sadomoto, they say they have no idea what to do with her.

"since she appeared in Jo, Ha and Q, I wondered what her role in the story would be, and when I asked the staff, they told me that it won’t be possible to really go further in one film, so they had to tie the main story up, and that Mari may have almost no screen time."

http://archive.is/5Fqnj

If anything Mari is there to sell new figurines. That's it, she wont even have that many scenes in final.
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>>2851085
It is evident in how they tie Mari together with Asuka in 2.22 and 3.33, as partners who share an EVA, and a bed in some concept art. Moreover , in 2.22 there were storyboards that showed discarded scenes of Mari feeding Asuka, or piloting together.

Mari is there to sell figurines yes, but she is before anything else a lesbian expansion pack for Asuka. By pairing them in merchandise and in the new story, and also making Mari a lesbian in the manga they add the necessary components for attracting Yuri fans, while not committing to either Shinji or Mari. This way, they exploit both the hetero and homo shipping market, while making Asuka more popular.

Mari is of course, like Sadamoto and everyone who saw 3.33 can tell, an entirely pointless character that there is no time to finish. When 3.33 ruined the Rebuilds by pandering to Kaworu and Asuka fans, they killed any chamce of having well developed characters.

Turns out that Asukafandom and Kaworu fandom really was the internal cancer that killed EVA.
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>>2851144
But in 3.33 her scenes has her teasing Asuka about seeing Shinji, tells Shinji to start being a man and save the Princess (Asuka). Anno wont pair her up with his favorite character.
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>>2851384
You dont fucking get it. He doesnt need to pair them up or have them fuck, date or flirt. He only needs to suggest that there is a possibility for it, and that it may already be the case.

The same reason your dumb shipper ass argues for asukaxshinji right now is the same reason marixasuka shippers argue as well. The point is not to deliver a story, a romance or anything else. Only a framework for otaku to build their fantasies on.

You have taken the bait. Mari exists to add yuri fans to Asuka's fanbase. The Shinji hinting is to please existing asuka fans and bait hetero shippers.
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>>2851392
THIS
THIS
THIS
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>>2851085
Why are you even here?
Everyone knows you're a cancerous Asukafag.
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>>2851392
>implying I'm a shipper

>>2851404
>stating facts makes you an Asukafag
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>>2851446
You didn't state any facts at all.
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>>2851523
I did, and I posted sources. Mari's existence is to sell figurines and being a request of a producer. Hell, rebuild in a nutshell is just Transformers of anime.
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>>2851539
Your sources don't really back up your claims, nor does you argumentation show any understanding of the sources you've cited.

The Transformers movie franchise is an objectively better remake than the Rebuilds have been so far.
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>>2851940
This shallow moeblob isn't my Rei!
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>>2852301
That art doesn't work here unfortunately.
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>And Asuka fell on her face and daren't look up, for behold: the best girl cometh with judgement.
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>>2852917
10/10
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>>2852301
Do you have garlic ramen?
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>>2848196
What is she holding.
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>>2853168
A Secret!
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>>2853269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLDhMU5JvMk

WHAT'S IN THE FUCKING BOX
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Anyone know any voice talent?
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>The next morning, when Mitaka City Water Department employees arrived for work, they found that the posters that had been posted inside the City Hall had been stolen. At first they thought that the failure of the alarms to go off meant a professional job (laugh), but it seems that some enterprising otaku had impersonated Mitaka City employees, entered the offices from the back exit early that morning, and made off with the posters. In addition, from that day onward Mitaka City Hall was deluged with phone calls asking if they had any Ayanami Rei pencil boards and posters left to the extent that it interfered with regular operations.

BASED
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Wu-Tang Clan
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>>2853462
That's disgusting, Rei otaku are disgusting
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>>2852843
>>2853546
L-lewd
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>>2853765
You mean, that is fucking awesome.
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>>2853765
Envious Asuka/Kaworufag detected.
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>>2853986
Yep, butthurt Asukafags are that bad.
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Best Rei art.
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>>2854016
>can't stop talking about Asuka
What did he mean by this?
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>>2849703
Reminder that you've yet to actually successfully argue anything, and reminder that you're still a Misatofag who doesn't like Rei.

At least you should concede the actualities.
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>>2842546
>you will never do lewd things with rei
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>>2854380
Not with that attitude
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>>2854534
I want Rei to slap me!
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Straight outta /a/
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>>2854598
I'm trying to step up my game too.
The hair is on it way.
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>>2854598
's cute

>>2854620
I like it, but there's one thing:

Japanese usually practice lineart first, which is how they get their results.
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>>2854626
>Japanese usually practice lineart first, which is how they get their results.
I suck with that.
2d flat drawing just doent work with my brain.
So i'm trying to get into painting instead, just because I can do it better.
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>>2854627
Well >>2854620
is looking pretty good already desu. Could even look good as a monochromatic picture, with red highlighted
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>>2849387
The psychology of self esteem by nathaniel branden.
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>>2849387
The Naked and the Dead.
It's a piece of shit.
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>>2855138
Source?
I want more of this artist.
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>>2855225
Pixiv ID deleted, sowwy
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>>2855357
nvm found it
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>>2855673
Oh ok
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Your shipment of qt has arrived.
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>>2855673
>>2855357
If you found it, then share at least.
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>>2856006
Isn't it Rei's birthday soon?
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here is some phone stuff
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>>2856313
No. Megumi's birthday is not Rei's.
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>>2856313
March 30th
>>2856325
Fuck off, it is says "The Birthday of Rei Ayanami" then it is.
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Stop ruining Eva threads on /a/ please, thanks
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>>2856523
What happened?
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>>2856523
It's not me, I suppose your waifu is just shit and everyone is shitting on her because she sucks.
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>>2856523
I hardly go to /a/, friend.
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>>2856377
It's a title. Not canon.

>>2856523
>>2856527
He got the wrong thread, he meant to go to the Asuka or Kaworu threads. They've been ruining threads on /a/ for at least three years now.
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>>2856641
Not him here, but that album's the closet thing we have to a canon source on her birthday so unless something comes out contradicting it I don't see the harm in considering it her birthday, it's nice to have a day to attach to her.
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>>2856647
I do see the harm.

Rei Ayanami: All records deleted. No known place or date of birth.
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>>2856659
Guess that means all the other characters in eva have invalid birthdays since they all are based on the voiceactors.
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>>2856659
Yeah that's a fair point, but I'm just arguing that it's fine for fans of her to view it as her birthday based off the album for the sake of celebrating it, even if it's unknown in universe.
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>>2856667
They are mentioned in the story.

>>2856668
Nah.
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>>2856668
I don't think it's fine. It's Megumi's birthday, not Rei's.

For all her talent, Megumi a shit who betrayed Rei. She doesn't matter.
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>>2856670
>They are mentioned in the story.
If video games count as the story then so does a CD.
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>>2856769
>If video games count as the story
Who said it did?
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>>2856771
also, throwing in a reminder that people who defend and post Rei Q have been proven to be Rei-haters or non-Reifags that bust in the Rei thread to shitpost.

Reminder that Q should be denouced at every possible junction. Your duty as a Rei fan.
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>>2856756
And yet you post pictures of Rebuild Rei, so you're a hypocrite
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>>2856659
>Rei Ayanami: All records deleted. No known place or date of birth.
Gendo does know her place and time of "birth" though.
Why the fuck not?
It's pretty much possible that Rei 1 was made on March 30th. Or maybe the project was started on 30th. Maybe it's actually Yui's birthday, or death day.
In Rei's case a random date to consider a birthday and celebrate that she was around for a year is better than nothing since she was never actually born.

Do you think children of unknown origin have no birthdays?
They celebrate a date they were found on because nobody actually knows where exactly they were born, but the whole point is to celebrate that said person was around for a year.
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>>2856926
I'd like to see it as part of the story, not some side-comment outside of it. If Rei has no birthday known, she has no known birthday. Megumi isn't Rei.

>>2856772
That's normal Rei though, look at the plugsuit - no red bauble. That said, Rebuild Rei up until 2.22 is fine in my book. We should be able to stomach some change given that it's taken seriously, which didn't happen in Rebuild.
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>>2856956
>If Rei has no birthday known, she has no known birthday
No.
If Rei has no birthday known we party at any day we chose.
Thats what everybody does when they dont know their real birthday.
Fuck off shitter.
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>>2856957
I don't mind that at all, it's just that that date isn't Rei's birthday. Let's choose every day of the year then, or rather, her introduction date.
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>>2856834
see >>2856956
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>>2856926
how do i shoe
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Haven't been here for almost two years, I'm glad to see everyone's still doinf fine.
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>>2857046
Welcome back, buddy.
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>>2857046
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OG Rei a best.
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best girl FINISH
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Someone make a new thread? I can only make one in 9-10 hours.
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>>2857445
>>2857445
>>2857445
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