Rei Ayanami Thread #98 - do NOT talk to Qshitter edition

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Why is she so perfect?

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I love her too much

are there any big plans for thread #100? the big day is close!

>>2761645
I was going to say that we have it on Rei's birthday but that's March 30th.

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>>2761645
Anons could try making some nice OC for Rei

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I can't figure out how anyone with a heart could dislike her or prefer anything else to her.

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>>2761649
5 months away. Yeah, we got here too early.

>>2761645
Not really a Reifag, but I'll draw a 100th thread themed drawing of her

>>2761817
>referring to the glorious Reitrician people as "reifags"
Anon, /c/ is a friendly place. That is not friendly behavior.

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>>2761818
>Anno Post Impactum Tertium 1
>thinking -fag is an actually derogatory suffix

>>2761819
We do not use normal suffixes to refer to each other here. This is the sacred thread of Rei Ayanami. Please pay your respects.

>>2761821
Jawohl my hieReite.

>>2761821
>>2761818
That's nonsense Anon

We all know Reifag isn't derogatory

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>>2761645
i just noticed that i used the word "big" as an adjective in two consecutive clauses and now i feel insecure that people replied to it, because it means they read and processed my poor, uncreative writing

i will no longer post after 2am

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I'm having big exams starting Tuesday. Wish me luck anons. I hope Rei is by my side.

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>>2761818
Reifag is fine.

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Done with the meme version now for the serious one.

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>>2761818
No one here uses Reifag in a derrogative manner.

>>2761863
People have embarrased themselves worse than that, don't worry about it.
>>2761871
good luck
>>2761910
bricklaying makes gets you ripped

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>>2761818
fag is just a 4chan honorific

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[spooky warning]

>>2761910
10/10

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>>2761964
>>2761924
Here the serious one

>>2762053
Beach volleyball Rei is much better, it might be my personal politics talking but I don't imagine Rei going MAGA. there's a bit of hippy dippy undertones to her.

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>>2762059
I did that one for fun and memes.

But i really wont think that Rei would vote Hill.
She's smart enough to judge between Trump's shortcomings andd Hillary's high treason, corruption and bullshit in favor of the best option.

Personally i'm not very bananas about Trump but i am pretty much against Hillary.

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>>2761604
>In Rei's case, what wasn't canon has now become canon: Rei as a Yui-clone with no intelligence, will or whatever else. It is an objectively degrading representation of Rei.

Rebuild 1: Essentially the TV series Rei

Rebuild 2: Essentially the poka poka waifu Rei

Rebuild 3 First Half Only: Essentially the emotionless clone

Rebuild 3 Second Half: Rei questions her existence, similar to Rei III who has emotions and feelings that do not match her memories

Rebuild 4: Does Shinji save Rei's soul or does the world go Tang?

The important thing here is you can ignore the second half of Rebuild 3 in your personal fantasy world but in the real world the second half of Rebuild 3 exists and does not match what you wrote in the quoted text above.

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>>2762066
You could say I'm the other way around. Not very bananas about Hillary but pretty much against Trump. Regardless of where one might stand, this elections' been a shit show.

>>2761934
This is such a cool Rei.

>>2762066
Oh, and definitely Rei wouldn't vote for Hillary, probably would remind her too much of Ritsuko. Instead she would write in Shinji. She did pretty much that in EoE:
>Everyone: Who will get to decide what happens to the world next? A bunch of corrupt power brokers or a self serving asshole?
>Rei: Fuck that I choose Shinji

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>>2762071
>Rei questions her existence, similar to Rei III who has emotions and feelings
Bullshit.
Q gets told what she's supposed to be rather than to figure out for herself.
This is the worst part, she's as dumb as a brick and this is their worst attack on the character possible.

Rebuild 2 and 3 paints Rei stupid and this is unacceptable.
Rei was very intellectual and philosophical in TV, now she's a retarded vegetable "what is like?".
Get out fucking Asukafag, your hatred to Rei is way too obvious.

>>2762074
>this elections' been a shit show.
Actually this election is a thrilling and amazing show.
Trump was playing mass media like a fucking fiddle and they cant do shit about it except calling him stupid when he makes them do all he needs them to do by clearly being intellectually superior to everyone attacking him.

>>2762084
>Actually this election is a thrilling and amazing show.
From an entertainment angle sure. But on a deeper level nothing about what went down is a positive development.

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>>2762088
>But on a deeper level nothing about what went down is a positive development.
Globalism being challenged is a great thing and anti-globalists look very strong in an uphill battle agains everything and all odds.
Brexit won, deutche bank is about to implode.
If Trump wins it's going to be the end of globalism and despotism of SJW and it is going to be a great thing.

Ofcourse i would prefer Libertarian-right to be winning, but not when they are represented by Gary "bake a cake, what is a Leppo" Johnson. He's a joke, and libertarian party in general sucks.

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>>2762084
>Q gets told what she's supposed to be rather than to figure out for herself.

In the first half. In the second half she asks "What would Rei Ayanami do in this situation?" because she knows she is Rei but an incomplete Rei.

Asuka, who many around here hat for no good reason, doesn't tell her exactly what to do. She tells Rei to do whatever she thinks she should do.

Remember folks, report, hide, and move on. Don't give him any (You)s.

>>2762053
>>2762059
I concur.

The whole "MAGA" thing is funny as hell though.

Rei would likely refuse to vote, as do many Americans do these days.

I personally am not a massive fan of Clinton but Trump is genuinely the greater evil. Aside from his constant flipflopping of opinions he's also guilty of fraud, has had a history of refusing his end of deals, and publicly admitted to tax evasion in a fucking presidential debate. Not only that, but he doesn't have any sense of tactfulness and doesn't know when to start and when to stop. Clinton may be a weasel but she knows how to argue and knows how to project a good public image. And that's a major part of being president for any country.

>>2762071
>The important thing here is you can ignore the second half of Rebuild 3 in your personal fantasy world
Stop it right there, mister. You're the one ignoring the first half of Rebuild 3, and arguably, the entire thing - because having emotions or questioning existence alone is not enough, that requires what, one sentence?

You require a Rei Ayanami that goes from A to Z, that has this ongoing and finalized character arc. When Anno and Khara repeatedly painted Rei as a puppet in their new Evangelion, they permanently killed that option, and with Rei Q, they took it to the next level, the level upon which it can no longer be redeemed.

It will forever remain a lesser character than the original Rei, and not only that it is when analyzed objectively exactly equatable with an insult directed towards Rei. Therefore, by both current in-universe logic and ordinary logic, Rei Q is not Rei and never will be. It's another character, and it's existence alone defies the existence of the original.

Sorry ReiQ-poster, but whether you're serious or not, you'll always be wrong and always be refuted.

>>2762156
I hate the rei-hating reiq poster as much as anyone else, but personally, I will try to attempt getting some sense out of it before I give up and join the rest of you.

>>2762188
Haven't you seen anon, the past few threads have been littered with his shitposts. He's really going out of his way to feign ignorance and be retarded at this point, considering that every single one of his arguments have been debunked already. Just report and move on, at least we can try and aim for the #100 thread on Rei's birthday doing that.

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>>2762185
Trump legally avoided taxes as is allowed by Bill Clinton.
Literally nothing wrong.

And so far he hasnt sold Amerika yet. One candidate has already comitted treason, the other hasnt yet.

As for tectfulness I dont give a shit. Politicall correctness needs to be smashed.
I admire the message "doesnt matter how I say, it matters what i say" who gives a shit if he's ride when hes on topic and adresses real issues?

Trump is great for cultural and socisl reasons. As for ecinomical I think hes great at making money. And as for external politics he wants to end the war which is also great.

Dont forget who started it all and why those refugees are running to begin with, its Hillary who blew up their houses and armed ISIS to fight Gaddhafi whos behind it all.

Rei wouldnt care about superficial matters over core issues and highest order corruption.

Who gives a shit if he said Anchor-baby and grabbed her by the pussy when the other candidate is literally Satan?

>>2762244
How does one person being excessively rude and uncultured equate to "the death of political correctness" again?

His policies simply don't work (eg. his idea of "bringing the companies back to america" is unrealistic due to it inevitably leading to an economic collapse and it assuming that companies even want to come back to America) and he barely stays constant with his ideals. He claims to be so good at making money yet refuses to disclose his net worth or his tax claims. That alone makes his entire position doubtable.

I'm not too aware on middle-eastern politics so I won't comment on that, but as far as I can see with my own limited knowledge I think Clinton is the less awful choice. Her policies will just continue the inevitable stagnation that the US has been going through since the '08 crisis, rather than outright sending it tumbling off the cliff.

>>2762262
>How does one person being excessively rude and uncultured equate to "the death of political correctness" again?
Not him, but if political correctness is the extreme and fanatical pursuit of flattery and neutrality, then rudeness and lack of culture surely is the death of it.

Particularly since it is political correctness itself that labels opinions and viewpoints, true or not, as rude, it is a strong antidote to what PC is attempting to achieve.

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>>2762262
>"bringing the companies back to america"
It is simple.
Literally every other country does it and Europe does it and China does to too.
IMPORT TAX
You tax imported goods to make it cheaper to make them at home and you you compensate it to your citizenship with lifting other taxes from them so you increace your economy while SAVING your people money.
Not doing that is just stupid. The only reason why it isnt there is because politics and are paid by glibalists to sabotage the economy.
TLDR
>Imported stuff gets more expensive
>But it doesnt matter because you save by paying less taxes
>And domestic market goods dont get expensive
Thats a Win-Win scenario.
>He claims to be so good at making money yet refuses to disclose his net worth or his tax claims.
He has a golden tower, a suprmodel wife, and he knows how to LEGALLY save on taxes.
He knows how to use media to save on his camoaign expenses, he made his enemies his advertisement.

He is evidently good with money, so good you can see it.
>I think Clinton is the less awful choice.
She started all this.
She is being everything, she wants to let refugees in while she made them refugees, she is responsible for all their misery and for chaos in both midfle east and Germany. Shes responsible for Ahmeds getting bombed in their homes and for Germany getting raped.
And not because shes in competent but because shes evil and corrupt.

Nobody is worse than Hillary Clinton.

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Let's move on and post more Rei. It's what we're here for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=gCHv0EKd9d8

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>>2762288
Political correctness is... how do I say it, too "extreme" for my taste. It tries too hard with something that should be moderate.

What we need is a middle ground, the natural state being that of one of respect but aggression and hostility is by no means a last resort.

>>2762293
But the taxes in the US are already excessively high. Surely you're not going to add another one are you?

And that contradicts his statement of "reducing taxes for the rich". This increases taxes for everyone.

Also, what is this "globalism" argument I keep hearing? I'm not aware of what the term means so please tell me.

Furthermore, there are plenty of goods that can only be bought overseas. Example: I want to buy a Figma Rei. I can't buy it in the US because all the shops have sold out. I can, however, get it on a Japanese toy store site because it's (obviously) a Japanese product. But import tax would make this difficult and unreasonable.

And who's to say that his golden tower isn't on credit? My parents own a $2m apartment unit but they're still paying for it on credit 15 years later.

And tax evasion simply adds to his poor public image. Simply put, if your own president is a billionaire who doesn't contribute a single cent back to the government, why should you? Why should anyone?

This was one of Clinton's core arguments during the debate and is honestly a rather profound and meaningful point.

I'm not too knowledgable on the refugee crisis so I'm not going to comment on that either.

The thing that makes me prefer Clinton is the fact that while they're both criminals (one for perjury, the other for fraud), Clinton is willing to own up to her mistakes and admit that she did something wrong. The first step in repentance is acknowledgement, and that move alone is enough to prove that she is willing to admit that she isn't flawless. Vs Trump's little line on "I believe my temprament is my greatest asset".

But I think we should be getting back on topic either way.

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Trump-fags, Hillary-fags, Libertarian-fags, Bernie-fags, doesn't matter in here we're all Reifags.

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>>2762353
That purple area is horrifying

>>2762354
It's supposed to be lilith's mask

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>>2762356
Fuck me, I didn't realize that
>tfw no qt animu gf that is literally god incarnate

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>>2762357
it's a surprisingly terrifying mask

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>>2762188
>You're the one ignoring the first half of Rebuild 3
Hmmm. This is me "ignoring" the first half:
>>2762071
>Rebuild 3 First Half Only: Essentially the emotionless clone
How exactly am I ignoring it? I've repeated too many times for me to keep track of that Rei Q doesn't have Ayanami's full soul in Rebuild 3 and the point of Rebuild 4 is to get Rei whole again. So how am I ignoring anything?

You can be insulted by Rei Q if you choose but it is little different than any fictional character under mind control, in a coma, having amnesia, having an evil twin from another dimension show up, and any other hundred common plot gimmicks.

>It's another character
Nope for all the reasons already stated. Here is an example of a different character that only shares the name and appearance of Rei Ayanami.

>>2762372
You're ignoring it because you're assigning it no value, you're ignoring the unmistakable consequences it has had had. In fact, by limiting it to "the first half", when the entire thing is the problem shows the depth of your devotion to falsehood.

It has robbed Rei Ayanami of every chance to be the character it deserved to be, and has added insult to injury by labeling it a mom-clone with no agency. Saying that this is "little different" from any made up anecdote are failed arguments on your part and is always going to be impotent in terms of proving anything, much less convincing anyone.

This has gone on for five years already, the same image of Rei as an emotionless, doll clone has been served over and over again, and this is reality - not your deluded imagination. It has been allowed to persist for all this time, with no development nor correction, because this was the intention all along. The insult.

Everyone who watched this movie felt it instinctively - some were angry and walked out, some reveled in it because they hated Rei for petty reasons. You apparently fall into the latter.

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>>2762342
>And that contradicts his statement of "reducing taxes for the rich". This increases taxes for everyone.
Like i said they ass taxes to the goods while reducung other taxes.
They add the tax to the imported, they decreace other taxes. It means the cimpanies will make more money if they move to US.
>figures
They become more expensive but it is OK because your other taxes will decreace and you have more money.
>The next step is repentance
Actually gullitine.
Clinton has comitted treason, and FBI boss confirm end that. She sold America for money to her foundation while Trump paid all he had to pay. If he can avoid tax it means he can do it legally.
She must hang not rule. And if you elect her she'll be stabbing you in the back again and again for next 8 years.
>Glibalistm
It is about turning National states into one global Super state, like EU but bigger the World Union.

Big cimpanies would like to see the world Union with free mivement from Somalia to Japan and US. For companies it means very cheap labor force and high profits. For you it means they take your job and become your neighbours.

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>>2762361
For how simple it is it's a really cool design.

>>2762483
Fuck me nigga that pic would be fucking scary with 3D glasses

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>>2762425
are you having a stroke m8

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>>2761919
Source? And before anybody flip i did google search, didn't find anything

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>>2762542
Pissed from mobile.

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>>2762547
I fucking hate this

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>>2762546
Shinji Ikari Raising Project vol. 1.
>>2762547
woah damn your phone can piss?
shit, you should give it to someone with a urine fetish

I want to go on long nature walks with Rei.

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>>2762599
I want to stay at home and listen to my free jazz records while cuddling with her

>>2762600
What soloist do you think would be her favourite?

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>>2762406
>You're ignoring it because you're assigning it no value, you're ignoring the unmistakable consequences it has had had. In fact, by limiting it to "the first half", when the entire thing is the problem shows the depth of your devotion to falsehood.

>It has been allowed to persist for all this time, with no development nor correction

I assigned it a value of meh. I don't particularly like Rebuild 3, nonsense like the "curse of the Eva", or even the music player plot point.

The problem is that you say there has been no development nor correction which is nonsense because the development of the correction happens in the second half of Rebuild 3. Even if you walked out of the theater early and didn't see it, the correction development occurs.

To say otherwise puts you in a miserable little cult that breaks with the real world, stamping feet and gnashing teeth, and crying bitter tears "Something happened to Rei that I hate so I shall withdraw from reality and create my own fantasyland."

You can hate forever if you like but it doesn't make the second half of Rebuild 3 no longer exist and complaining that I acknowledge it as a delusion or "failed arguments" on my part just won't do.

>>2762668
She'd likely be a big fan of Dolphy and Rivers like I am. I doubt she'd share my taste in some of the more aggressive players like Taylor or Brotzmann though.

>>2762684
To add on to that: I think she might like the more introspective stuff like Other Planes of There that I'm not too big on myself. She'd also probably enjoy some solo sax stuff like Braxton and Kaoru Abe although I'm not crazy over the latter.

Either way it's all good taste.

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This grill is pretty ridiculous.

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>>2762682
>I assigned it a value of meh.
In which case, you've got no argument and you've invalidated your own position.

>The problem is that you say there has been no development nor correction which is nonsense because the development of the correction happens in the second half of Rebuild 3. Even if you walked out of the theater early and didn't see it, the correction development occurs.

The development or correction never happens, this has already been established earlier. Not only that, you've managed to miss the point: almost five years now without any continuation or improvement either past what was shown. This was all expected to be the case by us. Keep in mind that we've been right all the time, and the only one retreating to a delusional fanatasy world is you, by imagining stuff that doesn't happen.

It is an indisputable fact that Rebuild and neo-Evangelion has only ever achieved glorifying Anno's favorite characters, whilst degrading Rei. At this point, we're making a saner, smarter and downright healthier choice in acknowledging the facts as is. You however, as a pathetic Rei-hater trying to pose as a Rei-fan, are clinging desperately to an objectively inferior and insulting version of Rei because that's what you want: You couldn't deal with reality of the original Rei, the only full-quality character in the franchise, and so you desire a lesser version which goes nowhere and that's what you got with Rei Q, and hence your defense of it.

>>2762875
I really wish you stopped talking to him, you contribute to his making the thread worse for everyone, I'll also argue with one point of yours.
>Rei, the only full-quality character in the franchise
The original NGE was great partly because all the characters, even secondary and tertiary ones were great and interesting, Rei might have been the best but others were great too.

>>2762875
>Rei, the only full-quality character in the franchise
This is where I have to stop you. Even Asuka was a fantastically written character. Rei admittedly trumps them all by miles but she's certainly not the only good character.

>>2762875
I will blame you when Rei Q is posted. Report and ignore Q posters.

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>>2762875
>>I assigned it a value of meh.
>In which case, you've got no argument and you've invalidated your own position.

What? I have to like something to believe it exists? I said from the start I wasn't a fan of Rebuild 3. It's a mess. That doesn't mean I can claim anything I want?

>The development or correction never happens

It begins. As I have said way too often.

>almost five years now without any continuation or improvement

Anno should have completed Rebuild 4 by now. Sure. That still doesn't mean you have any right to demand everyone join a cult that denies reality.

>clinging desperately to an objectively inferior and insulting version of Rei

I'm the one arguing Rei already has begun the change. I am the one saying Rebuild 4 is about Rei getting her complete soul. We don't know if Anno will give a happy ending or do another mindfuck like end of Evangelion did to Rei, but you can't say I am stuck on emotionless Q because that version of Rei doesn't even last half an hour.

>>2762955
You can't report me for following the rules.


(Note: Rei Ayanami's soul on the left)

>>2762992
We can report you for breaking Global Rule 3

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dubs rei is the only rei

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>>2763042
tfw

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you FAILED
check my FUGGING DUB

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>>2763048
What dubs

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>>2763049
le benis man

dubs in 5 posts

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>>2763051
aesthetic dubs

>>2762995
I think you must be talking about
>>2763042
>>2763048
>>2763049
>>2763051
>>2763052
with that rule, not posting Rei in a Rei thread

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>>2763052
watch as i freeze time and get dubs

>>2763054
>not posting rei in a rei thread
>all those images are rei and all the posts are friendly banter
lad

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>>2763056
wtf

not even rei stand power can get dubs

>>2763059
Well it's not really friendly because if I expressed my true contempt for the Q-deniers I would have reason to be banned. Note Q-haters are different than Q-deniers because you can hate something all you want. Just leave the fantasy cocoon.

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>>2763056
Feels bad man

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>>2763063
Not everything is about you anon.
>>2763065
rei duBS WHEN

>>2763068
Where did that remark come from?

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>>2763071
none of this rei dubsposting has anything to do with you

please leave us in peace, we wish to shower the glorious Rei with sick dubs

>>2763072
So having done off-topic politics and off-topic images of non/c/ nature and nsfw posts on a blue board and insulted me and done false reporting you've moved on to b/level "dubs" posting.

Congratulations.

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>>2763074
but all of these images are of rei

rei general is a friendly place for sharing our favorite rei images and discussing things and being friends

it is not a place for rude arguing or posting non-rei images (including rei q)

please do not continue posting here. thank you

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>>2763076
There is nothing rude about pointing out details such as the music player and Rei's mental link with Shinji in Rebuild 3. It is rude however to be told those things that exist in the real world can't exist for me in this thread just because you don't like it.

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>>2763078
this thread is not the place for creating conspiracies and forcing your opinion on others

the majority of this thread has requested that you leave, and does not wish to hear anything about rei q or rebuild. i'm asking you to do so in a respectful manner, and suggest that you do so.

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>>2763079
And there are opinions in statements such as "Rebuild 4 will be about getting Rei's complete soul back to Q" or "The music player is something Anno wants us to take notice of." They are objective facts.

And I respectively decline your request that I leave the Rei threads. This is not your site. This is not your board. And even if you are OP it is not "your" thread.

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i'm going to ignore you now. you are not deserving of my or our attention

>>2763082
Finally, about time you started doing that. Your engaging with them is what trolls live for.

>>2762933
>>2762901
Don't get me wrong. This is a Rei thread, so I'm only commenting on Rei. It remains a fact that twenty years later, it's the only fully realized character we have among the iterations of Rei that has been made.

>>2762992
>What? I have to like something to believe it exists? I said from the start I wasn't a fan of Rebuild 3. It's a mess. That doesn't mean I can claim anything I want?
You're claiming that there's character development and corrections, which is patently false.

>Anno should have completed Rebuild 4 by now. Sure. That still doesn't mean you have any right to demand everyone join a cult that denies reality.
I'm not, as reality is on my side here. Facts are as they've always been, this much time has passed and during this time, we've been right and you've been wrong. You're the only one living with denial here.

>I'm the one arguing Rei already has begun the change. I am the one saying Rebuild 4 is about Rei getting her complete soul. We don't know if Anno will give a happy ending or do another mindfuck like end of Evangelion did to Rei, but you can't say I am stuck on emotionless Q because that version of Rei doesn't even last half an hour.

It lasts the full movie, and can't be undone. It's a wedge in Rei's development, and FYI, Q as a whole created a unfixable fatal wound in the Rebuld series. It takes time, consistency and concentrated effort to finalize Evangelion and the Rei character, and 3 had none of it and did squat to iron out the differences in the previous sequels.

You seem to not understand that Rei Q isn't Rei and will never be, as the standard of what is Rei is the original one. Hence splitting Rei into two and thus wasting a full 1/3 on nothing, has ensured a deeply inferior character that's an insult to the original. It's not simply just about disliking here, it's about facts. The fact that even if e.g an Asuka fan loves Rei Q, it can still acknowledge it as what it is: an insult towards Rei.

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>>2763178
>>2763178
So the potential that Rei has as a character in Rebuild has been entire squandered. This includes the potential we knew Rei had from NGE. Rei questioning herself or changing is solid, working characterization because in NGE it's a red line that goes throughout the entire character. It's present from the beginning and escalates.

With Rebuild, that has been removed, as in either 1.0/2.0 there isn't yet thoughts on that level nor develpment, and thus whatever Rei Q does, even if it is written to be Rei through some plot device, now has no real connection to the character. There is no point to Rei Q questioning her existence either if we just consider Rei Q's character. There was never ever any reason for why Rei Q shouldn't have done that in the first place, so her questions are not development.

Character development is character development because a fundamental part of the character changes - with an undefined character, Rei Q cannot develop.

>>2763081
The statements you make concerning the music player are entirely irrelevant. We have already considered every possible option, including that.

The facts remain:
By introducing Rei Q, Rei's character was cut short before it was ready to move on to Rei III.
By introducing Rei Q, Rei's character never took advantage of the new possibilities presented by 2.0.
The fact that Rei Q is not only exceptionally bad as a character, the fact is also that it is written as an insult towards the original Rei and the fanbase who liked it.
Then since other characters like Asuka, Kaworu are extremely glorified, while Rei is attacked makes it in principle not Rei.

Thats that. Rei Q will never, ever be Rei.

>>2763063
You must be insane to spend so much time in a Rei thread aince you hate Rei.

>>2763185
It's same anon that always posts Q, he's been doing it for years now. He isn't here to discuss anything, only to shit up the thread.

>>2763188
I can't wait for 4.0 to come out and BTFO his retarded music player shit entirely.

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>>2763189
There's nothing to BTFO, it's not like he believes anything he writes. He's only here to shit up Rei threads.

If there's an archive that saves deleted posts you will see he has hundreds of posts deleted in the last 20 or so threads because he inevitably starts spamming.

Just by posting he is already breaking the rules for ban evasion, along with the community guidelines of /c/. Hopefully the new janitors are aware of his long track record.

>>2763196
I know that he's just a shitposter. Him losing his music player conspiracy shite makes him much weaker and will make it more difficult for him to shitpost.

>>2763217
>>2763196
>>2763189
I obviously dont agree with the Q shitposter, but please have an open mind.

The "music player bullshit" surely is bullshit, but that doesnt mean it cant or wont be a part of 4.0. The problem is that it is just that, bullshit. It has no meaning or significance. It has no value in terms of improving or fixing Rei's character.

But most importantly, it cant undo the fact that Rei Q is an insult towards Rei.

There are some .moe domains registered to Rei:
ayanami.moe
"The ReiPository" - Displays the contents of a folder

Then there's rei.moe.

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>>2763221
>please have an open mind.
There's nothing there to open my mind to.

If you think debating him has any affect you need to think again. Even if you thoroughly refute all his points he will just change tactics. He will dump encyclopedic posts, concern troll about the rules, spam, false flag with shitty posts, whatever it takes to fuck up a thread.

He has been doing the same thing in Rei threads for years now, both here and on /a/. His sole objective is to shit up Rei threads and that's it. There's nothing more to him.

You need to have self-discipline when dealing with people like this. Don't allow yourself to be taken for a ride.

Anyone know more of sites like >>2763301

?

>>2763412
http://www.rei-ayanami.com/rei/

>>2763310
/c/ is a nice place. Please be respectful to others.

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>>2763499

>>2762185
Both Rei and Ayanami can mean nothingness or zero, Rei pilots Unit-00 and her character development is based around her search for her uniqueness or individuality. If Rei operated on that level she would refuse to vote or even take part in bourgeois politics.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/renzo-novatore-toward-the-creative-nothing

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>>2763196
I believe you have me confused with someone else. The only posts I've had deleted were two that were wrongly reported by the mob.

Also I stopped posting to these threads for about a year and a half as I expected Rebuild 4 to have been completed by now. As mentioned before I dropped by again after the new Godzilla movie reminded me of my previous time here.

>>2763221
>The problem is that it is just that, bullshit. It has no meaning or significance.

To repost an earlier screenshot with different cute Reis added: I don't care about your group's honor killing attitude that Q is an irredeemable deplorable but please explain why Anno would bother to animate the naked soul of Rei holding the music player if it has no meaning. I'm fine if you have an alternate theory about the player and I am fine if you think the player is a dumb gimmick because I'm no fan of it myself but to say it has no meaning at all is just nonsense. You don't go to that much trouble on meaningless nothing.

Go rewatch the battle scene in Rebuild 2 when Rei does her suicide attack. They cut to the music player for a moment. This isn't me noticing some detail in the corner of a screen. They cut to a full-screen animation of the music player. Anno shoves it in our face and yells "Hey everyone this is something important!"

Likewise at the end of Rebuild 3 they animate the player drop to the ground and they show us Rei's feet next to the player. These are not meaningless moments. These aren't a cashgrab product brand sponsorship endorsement.

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>>2763178
>You're claiming that there's character development and corrections, which is patently false.

If I ever said "character development" I meant story development. In numeric terms we might say she started Rebuild 1 at a 6, went to 8 in Rebuild 2, and was knocked back to 1 at the start of Rebuild 3 and got back to 3 by the end. Rebuild 4 will either give us a Rei at 10 (happy human ending) or at 0 (Tanged).

So yes the correction already began. Your mob just isn't satisfied that it currently is below its peak while I am waiting for the story end to pass final judgement.

>It lasts the full movie
Rei at the end of Rebuild 3 is different than the Rei at the start of Rebuild 3 and to say otherwise requires you to stop watching halfway through.

>>2763179
>Rei questioning herself or changing is solid, working characterization because in NGE it's a red line that goes throughout the entire character. It's present from the beginning and escalates.

Incorrect. For the first half of Evangelion we watch Rei through Shinji's perspective. We start with the thought that Rei is emotionless and are then surprised when Shinji gets a glimpse of her laughing while talking to Gendo. This is told to us point blank in the final episodes where Shinji discusses how there is how we see ourselves and how we are seen by others.

>There is no point to Rei Q questioning her existence either if we just consider Rei Q's character. There was never ever any reason for why Rei Q shouldn't have done that in the first place

Rei Q didn't question her existence before Shinji returns. She was treated as an emotionless clone because she didn't have her complete soul.

This makes the message of Rebuild as Shinji and Rei become any guy and any girl. If we live our real lives with an incomplete soul and society treats us as unimportant soulless workers then we aren't taking advantage of our existence.

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>>2763567
>If I ever said "character development" I meant story development.
That's too big of a mistake for you to make. We're discussing a character, not the story itself, although it is also more or less a failure.

>In numeric terms we might say she started Rebuild 1 at a 6, went to 8 in Rebuild 2, and was knocked back to 1 at the start of Rebuild 3 and got back to 3 by the end. Rebuild 4 will either give us a Rei at 10 (happy human ending) or at 0 (Tanged). So yes the correction already began. Your mob just isn't satisfied that it currently is below its peak while I am waiting for the story end to pass final judgement.

Not at all. Rei started Rebuild 1 at maybe 2-3, went to a five in 2, and then stopped. From thereon, the story of "Rei" never progressed, and neither did her character, since she was locked inside EVA01. Rei Q, who is not Rei, is a zero at both the start and end of 3.0. Even if you insist Rei Q is Rei, which Rebuild tells you she's not, Rei Q's story is not a continuation of Rei's in any way whatsoever. Not even thematically since the characters are entirely different.

Rei in 2.0 is now no longer a 5 either, but regressed to a 1 or 2 since the chance to further continue Rei's story was wasted.

The "correction" has not begun, and is such an arduous task to undertake that Rebuild would at this rate never finish within our lifetimes. It would involve more than rewriting Rei's character, but also everyone elses. There is no correction or continuation in Rebuld 3, and you can't simply go from 0 to 10 in a single movie. Much less 5 to 10. No time.


>Rei at the end of Rebuild 3 is different than the Rei at the start of Rebuild 3 and to say otherwise requires you to stop watching halfway through.
To say that she's different from the start requires you to be delusional. Rei Q is never established as a character, and therefore you can't say she's changed. The change is entirely for the viewer to imagine, in other words, there is no change.

>>2763567
>Incorrect. For the first half of Evangelion we watch Rei through Shinji's perspective. We start with the thought that Rei is emotionless and are then surprised when Shinji gets a glimpse of her laughing while talking to Gendo. This is told to us point blank in the final episodes where Shinji discusses how there is how we see ourselves and how we are seen by others.

Incorrect. You say "first half", but the sub-storyline you describe takes place in episode five/six, and NGE consists of 26 episodes, plus one movie. 6/26 is not half, it's not even a full quarter. Moreover I disagree, as does everyone else who isn't a Rei-hater (good job on outing yourself again), that Rei was emotionless in even those first few episodes.

You know nothing about NGE except the hatred you have for it since you can't deal with Rei being superior to your favorite character.

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>>2763567
Utter nonsense. Rei was never emotionless in the first half. The smile you describe is in ep.5, and prior to that she gets angry and slaps Shinji. She is even introduced in a way that shows you that she suffers. You didnt wven watch NGE, or you really are a Rei hater.


>Rei Q didn't question her existence before Shinji returns...

Fanwank. There is nothing that says she didnt, and nothing that says she did. A character cant be developed if it isnt established.

>This makes the message of Rebuild as Shinji and Rei become any guy and any girl. If we live our real lives with an incomplete soul and society treats us as unimportant soulless workers then we aren't taking advantage of our existence.

Except for how Rei Q is the only one in that predicament and that 'message' makes no sense, nor does it fit.

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>>2763816
>We're discussing a character, not the story itself

Well character is developed by story. In the end of Rebuild 4 the Rei we have will be influenced by the events of Rebuild 3. That is why it is possible I may have said it was character development. It is more accurate for me to say Rebuild 3 is an investment in character development.

>Rei Q is never established as a character

Rei Q is Rei and our reaction to what we see are, like with Shinji, based on the Rei we knew before.

>>2763817
> I disagree, as does everyone else who isn't a Rei-hater (good job on outing yourself again), that Rei was emotionless in even those first few episodes.

She seems emotionless. For example the rather absurd sequence of almost-naked Rei's extremely calm reaction to Shinji ended up on top of her with a hand on her breast. I'm sorry if you find it an insult to your eternal love one true waifu but she gave an emotionless response to the situation. Even though we know she was capable of more she SEEMED emotionless.

And I won't quibble math as I could as easily say almost the entire Evengelion story is done from Shinji's perspective.

>>2763819
>Rei was never emotionless in the first half.

"We start with the thought that Rei is emotionless "

For proof see above.

>There is nothing that says she didnt

There's nothing that doesn't say she is actually a robot built by monkeys from Mars. Rei Q does only what she is told at the start and starts to think for herself at the end.

>>2763864

Reported for false reporting and contributing nothing to the thread. If you don't like discussion go to gallery view or hide posts that you dislike.

>>2764327
>Reported for false reporting and contributing nothing to the thread
Rule 7: Replying to a thread stating that you've reported, is also not allowed.

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>>2764327
>Reported for false reporting and contributing nothing to the thread
When did he imply that he reported though? There's no rule against telling others to report

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>>2764391
>>2764419
At least you get to avoid answering the facts about Rei.

>>2764464
No anon, I'm avoiding responding to your shitty bait.

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>>2764327
Rebuild 3 objectively devotes the least time and effort towards story and character development.


>Rei Q is Rei and our reaction to what we see are, like with Shinji, based on the Rei we knew before.

In no way is that a character. You reaction != a character.

So just face it, you have nothing except hatred for Rei.

>>2764327
>She seems emotionless. For example the rather absurd sequence of almost-naked Rei's extremely calm reaction to Shinji ended up on top of her with a hand on her breast. I'm sorry if you find it an insult to your eternal love one true waifu but she gave an emotionless response to the situation. Even though we know she was capable of more she SEEMED emotionless.
So how much more pathetic are you going to get? First it was emotionless, and now it's "seemed"?
Rei crying out in pain, smiling with Gendo prove orherwise. Next episode she even smiles towards Shinji.

>And I won't quibble math
Because you'd lose. All you have is your hate for Rei, and that is why you lose every single time.

Because we have the facts and truth on our side.

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>>2764327
>She seems emotionless
Qshitter confirmed a Rei hater in a shitty dollar store sheep costume.

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Why does one of the cutest and kindest girls to ever exist get so much hate? Is she too good for us?

>>2764589
To Christians Jesus was sinless and it got him crucified. A good chunk of humanity is crooked and abhors goodness in the world.

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>>2764595
Being Rei is suffering.

>>2764327
>"We start with the thought that Rei is emotionless "
>For proof see above.

I don't see any proof. You've gone back from claiming that she's emotionless in the first half, and now to the thought that she "seems" emotionless at first.

Basically Rei gets introduced suffering and wincing in pain, so first thought is actually that she's normal but simply hurt. The rest of your examples are literally surrounded with e.g Rei smiling towards Gendo and Shinji, and afterwards slapping Shinji.

Lacking in expression, yes - but emotionless? Are you dense?

>There's nothing that doesn't say she is actually a robot built by monkeys from Mars.
Because yes, Rei Q is that shallow. This is after three movies, and we're reduced to a point of depth where we can't actually tell if the character was born yesterday or not.

>Rei Q does only what she is told at the start and starts to think for herself at the end.
Problem being, that's not fully established, and nor are the reasons for why she supposedly can only follow orders. It's little more than a cliche.

Take Rei, we know why she follows orders, take Asuka, we know why she follows orders, and take Shinji, we know why he follows orders. Thus it means something when they choose not to. Because they are developing and changing their own characters. With Rei Q, there is no character reason for why she follows orders, or alternatively, doesn't.

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>>2764595
Why do people hate beauty and purity?

Why do they resort to things that hurt them and insult them instead?

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>>2764490
>First it was emotionless, and now it's "seemed"?

The only place I was close to calling Rei "emotionless" was saying Rei Q is essentially emotionless in the first half of Rebuild 3.

>Because we have the facts and truth on our side.

Your side is the one saying Rebuild 4 could be called "Rei Q is Rei" and you'd ignore it. Truth and facts are not hte same thing as opinions you feel so strongly about you will whine at others who don't share them.

>>2764490
>>2764496

So I guess I am dealing with people who don't know what the word "seems" means. That's fine. Perhaps English is not your first language. But since I suspect you won't believe anything I tell you, please find one of your friends to tell you.


>>2764720
>You've gone back from claiming that she's emotionless in the first half

No. The mob said I said it. I never did.

>Lacking in expression, yes - but emotionless?

All emotionless clones lack in expression. Not all clones lacing in expression are emotionless.

>With Rei Q, there is no character reason for why she follows orders, or alternatively, doesn't.

Yes there is. Shinji is an inspiration in the true original sense of the word. You all are so caught up in an imagined insult to a fictional character you like that you are missing the entire point of Anno's story.

>>2764698
Even worse is when the people who are supposed to care about you and help you decide to completely shun and disown you just because you don't have you complete soul.

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>>2764933
Rei II did not have Rei's complete soul and we love her as much as I and III.

Please refrain from talking about information you do not interpret correctly.

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>>2764821
Because some people are faggots

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Why do you people insist on responding to a shitposter? Just ignore him for fuck's sake

>>2764987
How ironic. You keep giving orders but people aren't clones struggling to think for themselves.

>>2764984
An accurate description of the standard Asucuck.

>>2764931
>not a single argument
You're done, Rei-hater.

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>>2764931
Now all you have left is backtracking and excuses.

Like we have said, there is no character reason behind Rei Q. Even if there was, Rei Q would still be sabotage

>But you are missing the point of Annos story!

Oh, are we now? Because the only point Anno has made is that he hates Rei. It has been ren years now almost - no point in sight except that.

>B-but why dont you support a hateful representation of Rei???

Gee, why dont Rei fans do that I wonder. FYI, the only ones who do hate Rei AKA you.

>>2764937
I dont agree with that theory. There is one soul in circulation and it is Rei.

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>>2764987
Amen. Qshit poster is bad enough, but the anons that can't fucking stop addressing him are becoming just as annoying. I can hide Qshit pics and the shitposter's posts along with them. But people responding to him is trickier. Since they're not posting ReiQ but they're still talking about it.

I don't want to mute literally everything because one of the nice things Rei threads have over the nearly barren Asuka threads is there's conversation and camaraderie over here. But if it's all Qshit bickering then might as well set this to gallery mode.

But I don't want to do that, so to the anons that just can't stop responding to the shitposter. I have a favor to ask. 1: Whenever you do respond, don't post pictures (I don't want to miss whatever nice pics you post along with a post I'm not interested in reading) and 2: everytime make sure to use the name ReiQ somewhere in your post.

>>2765047
Correct. Rei/Lilith both share the same soul. However, Rei II only contained a portion of the full Rei/Lilith soul, with the other portion in Unit-00. Rei III manages to gain both portions again and becomes Lilith thanks to the destruction of Unit-00.

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>>2765053
This is too much assumptions.

What We know for sure is that Rei's Reiness is singular.

IMO Rei is Lilith in human shape with human lives experience. If Lilith was a girl she would be Rei. And thats what Gendo did to Lilith, he made a godess his artificial daughter.

As for her different verions (1,2,3, Ep26) she's different due to lived experience.

>>2765093
It's directly shown in Ep 24 that Rei is Lilith in the same way that Kaworu is Adam. The rest are analysis based on hints and implications throughout the show.

>>2765053
That is fan theory. There is no need for EVA00 to have a soul.

>>2765193
>there is no need for Eva-00 to have a soul
Explain its two beserk occurences then.

Also, Ritsuko's comment implying that Unit-00 was targetting her when beserking also is a way of linking Rei I's death to her. It also explains why she dyed her hair, mommy issues aside.

>>2765193
>>2765194
To add on: It would be absolutely retarded if Unit-00 did not have a soul, while Unit-01 and 02 did. Furthermore, Rei's major personality changes occur after her "death". This is the first time we see her truly defy Gendo, aside from questioning her loyalty to him earlier on, and also is the first time she exploits her Angelic abilities. All signs point towards the soul fragmentation theory, more so than any other.

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>>2765196
>if Unit-00 did not have a soul,
My bet that Unit 00 is an unwilling nameless NERV Employee. It's the first prototype that's made to test the technology rather than to actually work. It's a type ZERO not even the first one.

That makes sense why it's trying to kill herself whenever given a chance and cannot be piloted by anyone other than Rei.

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>>2765194
>Explain its two beserk occurences then.
Simple, EVA00 has a dummy-plug implementation that doesn't like being chained up. This dummy plug implementation is based on Rei.

Remember how they did those tests with EVA00? Well, they were to create the dummy plug system. Rei and EVA00 were the de facto test bed for it.

Getting it to work with Shinji means they could use the data to proceed with the project.

>Also, Ritsuko's comment implying that Unit-00 was targetting her when beserking also is a way of linking Rei I's death to her. It also explains why she dyed her hair, mommy issues aside.

Ritsuko's comment doesn't make sense because EVA00 targets the command center, not Ritsuko herself. Ritsuko is afraid of the EVA's.

>>2765196
>It would be absolutely retarded if Unit-00 did not have a soul, while Unit-01 and 02 did
EVA00 works differently from both EVA01 and EVA02. It's the prototype. Besides, EVA00 likely has a dummy plug implementation. See above.

>Rei's major personality changes occur after her "death".
No, they've been occuring gradually over the series. Rei dying and then being resurrected changes her more, well who would have fucking thought DYING and then COMING BACK would change or person, or y'know, give them food for thought?

The "soul fragmentation theory" as you called it is objectively untrue because the series claims Rei only has one soul that resides inside Rei, and this is something even the booklets that come with EoE back up.

>>2765226
>EVA00 likely has a dummy plug implementation.
Eva00 can't have a dummy plug implementation because it precedes the Dummy plug.

>>2765270
>Eva00 can't have a dummy plug implementation because it precedes the Dummy plug.

The dummy plug was created from Rei and EVA00 - the dummy plug is an all-purpose system.

>>2765289
yeah, but it's not the other way around. Unit 00 & Rei lead to the Dummy plug development but Unit 00 couldn't have used a dummy plug instead of a soul because the dummy plug did not exist back then.

>>2765323
It doesn't use a complete "dummy plug", it uses an implementation of it. That is the control mechanism of EVA00 differs from the rest. Rei doesn't have a mother to synchronize with.
It only makes sense for NERV to have prioritized AI control over the use of children. They were pursuing the dummy plug all along, and as you can see in the end it is perfected and the children are made obsolete.

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Couldn't Rei be controlling Eva-00 the same way Kaworu controlled Eva-02 because its soul was dormant?

>>2765352
That is also possible, but there is something within EVA00.

>>2765352
She could have controlled it out of it then.
>>2765365
Something which Shinji says feels like Rei.

>>2765391
Shinji says the opposite. He sees Rei, but also says that it isn't Rei.

>>2765391
>She could have controlled it out of it then.
Poor girl is jacked up on so many meds she doesn't even know she can.

>>2765212
I mean sure, there are no signs that support that, but there are no signs that support that either. It's like the epileptic trees conspiracy.

>>2765226
Dummy plugs aren't alive, you idiot. The show explicitly says they're soulless and are only meant to make the Eva believe that there is a pilot.

Except that's not true? The dummy plug system was made inside the LCL tank that Rei stays in a good amount of the time. It's literally called the "dummy plug plant".

Also not true. Ritsuko was behind the glass during both of the Eva rampages, and in particular was paranoid that the Eva was attacking her. This does not mean that the Eva was actually attacking her, however her paranoia believed so. That's more than enough proof to show that it is a fragment of Rei I's soul.

Unit-00 has no fucking dummy plug, you dimwit. It's a unit just like any damn other. By this fucking logic Unit-01 should be completely different from the others too because it's the test type.

You fucking moron.

Except that she has died before? Yes? Rei I? Strangulation? Etc etc?

Except that material like booklets and other supplementary reading content has repeatedly contained false data on the series. Example: the Red Cross Book claims that the Angels came from Lilith, not Adam.

Furthermore, this theory does not state that Rei has multiple souls, it states that her singular soul was split in two. This also explains the (massive) personality changes within I, II and III.

God damn, a part of me thinks you're Qshitter taking a new route to shit up the thread.

>>2765289
But that still does not mean that Unit-00 originally had a dummy plug. Having a dummy plug also does not mean that the Eva can be soulless.

>>2765324
So now we can freely invent "incomplete dummy plugs" and "AIs in Evas" because reasons?

Jesus christ, just go and join Qshitter in ban hell. This is bad fanfiction.

>>2765394
It's not Rei, at least not Rei II, or the Rei he knows. Rei II is Rei I reincarnated with portions of her soul missing. Hence he sees visions of Rei when inside Unit-00. It's the Rei I fragments calling out to him.

>>2765409
The meds are to keep her AT field stable, dumbass. They don't do anything else.

>>2765394
What >>2765492 says. Shinji saying it's Rei but not really Rei fits with Part of Rei's soul being there. Kind of the inverse of what happened with Kyoko who lost the superego-ish part of her soul and was left with her Id. Rei II in turn lost her Id which is trapped in Unit 00 and was left with the rest. it requires less assumptions than unseen proto dummy plugs instead of a soul in one eva but not the others.

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5 cute facts about rei:

- She's a girl!
- She's a fighter!
- I lover her!!!!!
- Rei!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>2765712
>only 4
Here's the 5th one

- I love her the most!

>>2765712
SHE IS A FIGHTER
SHE'S NOT A QUITTER
I CAN TELL YOU THAT

>>2762549

Best looking Rei i've ever seen.

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>>2765729
>>2762549

>>2765492
>So now we can freely invent "incomplete dummy plugs" and "AIs in Evas" because reasons?
>But that still does not mean that Unit-00 originally had a dummy plug. Having a dummy plug also does not mean that the Eva can be soulless.

Thing is, we don't know what is inside EVA00. But we know what isn't: Rei's soul.

Also don't be so mean, we're just discussing.

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>>2765484
>Dummy plugs aren't alive, you idiot. The show explicitly says they're soulless and are only meant to make the Eva believe that there is a pilot.
But it's the Dummy plug that controls the EVA. Remember, EVA00 isn't using a dummy plug, but probably something similar. Dummy plug implementation != dummy plug.

>Also not true. Ritsuko was behind the glass during both of the Eva rampages, and in particular was paranoid that the Eva was attacking her. This does not mean that the Eva was actually attacking her, however her paranoia believed so. That's more than enough proof to show that it is a fragment of Rei I's soul.

Not at all, Rei I has zero relationship with Ritsuko. If anything is fanwank, it's this. The scene forces both Rei and Gendo to the forefront, those are the focus, not Ritsuko.

>Except that she has died before? Yes? Rei I? Strangulation? Etc etc?
>Furthermore, this theory does not state that Rei has multiple souls, it states that her singular soul was split in two. This also explains the (massive) personality changes within I, II and III.

The personality changes in Rei are explained best by Rei in episode 25: the passage of time and interaction with others. A huge point of the series. The changes in Rei's personality is best explained by this. No soul-split is actually needed.

I know the soul-split theory in and out, but I favor the idea that there is no soul in EVA00 and that it is all contained in Rei. While I know there is one error in the Red Cross Book, that doesn't mean that everything else is false. Who knows, it might even be a translation error?

So why not some other system of control that the show hints at all the time? It'd be lunacy to discount the theory.

>>2765776
So it's implausible that Rei's soul was split into two in a similar way that Kyoko's soul was?

Yep, you're a retard.

>>2765779
What the fuck?
That's not how it works. The dummy plug is just an emulation of a pilot. The Eva is what controls the Eva, similar to a beserk state. By that logic Rei should be a savage murderer since Unit-01 brutally destroyed Unit-03 when using the dummy plug.

Retard.

Except that her mother murdered Rei I? Did you even watch the fucking show?

That's not even an explanation. How do you remember to breathe?

So it's lunacy to attack a retarded theory that completely defies every single hint the show gives and defies canon information? The very fact that Unit-00 beserks twice is undeniable proof that there is a damn soul in there. The fact that every single other Eva has a soul makes it borderline impossible.

Just fuck off to /r/evangelion, they're a fan of bullshit conspiracy theories there.

>>2765776
>we know what isn't: Rei's soul.
All of it not. part of it is very much possible. and it's the stronger of all theories, alternatives force you to make even more assumptions.
>Dummy plug implementation != dummy plug.
Dummy plug implementation is not a thing ever brought up in the show. And dummy plugs piloted evas, but they still synced with the souls in them.
> If anything is fanwank, it's this
Ritsuko herself said what that anon stated, you're dening canon while at the same time invent fanwank like 'dummy plug implementation' stop being retarded.
>So why not some other system of control that the show hints at all the time? It'd be lunacy to discount the theory.
No soul theory is valid but weaker than the split soul one for one reason, we never see a souless entity be functionally living in eva's world: Lilith without a soul is dormant, as is Adam, All souless evas before unit00 were failures. The Rei clones did not function as human beings until a soul is put in them. While on the other hand We see soul splitting is a thing in eva with Kyoko's situation and in fact with the whole of humanity which are just fragments of Lilim's soul.

>>2765788
He's probably Qshitter trying a new shitposting method, just ignore him.

>>2765790
99% percent sure he is, he even uses the same tactics of denying canon and making up bullshit and presenting it as facts. But I don't mind in this case. I have no objections to actual NGE discussion. Qshit is what offends me. Him being a retard on other points is just amusing and I'm fine discussing it.

>>2765793
I'd prefer if he shat up /a/ or /r/evangelion instead. I don't want any of his shit in /rei/.

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>>2765795
I've gotten on other people's case for continuing talking to hime about Qshit so I won't do the same to you. I said what I had to say about Unit00's soul theory anyway. So I won't reply him about it anymore.

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>>2765795
>in /rei/.
I just raped Asukafags at /pol with support of some fellow blues.

I think now that moot is dead and seasonal Asukafags have got them new waifus we can start launching offensive operations.

Everything positive about Asuka is her looks and her fans are shallow and short-living, we are the majority again.

>>2765808
Thank god, you're doing us all a service anon. Rei always reigns supreme, and Anno's scheme to defile her will fail miserably, just like his attempts to destroy Evangelion as a franchise.

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>>2765785
So I reported one particular post that was a rule violation responding to something I wrote and my post was removed in addition to the offensive post. Now I am worried about reporting this hostile, insulting post because it might knock out a good, thoughtful post. I guess it might be useful if the good anons in this thread would at least condemn insults.

>>2765790
>>2765793
I believe with that insult you are referring to me but such an ugly name. How about if you call me R because I am interested in what happens after Q?

Anyway, I am not that other anon. Saying that may make you think it must be a lie but I promise you there really are quite a few different opinions in the world. Perhaps study up on Instumentality?

>>2765795
To control 100% of what gets posted you might want to consider creating a personal blog.

>>2765808
Wow. Nothing cute there, image or text.

>>2765877
So this confirms that Qshitter is indeed Soulshitter and an Asucuck in a dollar store sheep costume.

Thanks for playing.

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>>2765785
>>2765788
>>2765785
Look, I'm not trying to make you angry. I'm trying to debate with you, please don't get angry. I'm supposed to not agree with you, that's how this works. That's how you get a different view, and how I also get a different view.

Qshitter is Qshitter, and that guy posts Rei Q to piss people off. I do not, I just argue to understand things. For the record, both theories have merits.

>Rei I hates Ritsuko (because of Naoko)
Rei doesn't show any hatred towards Ritsuko during the show, does she? I mean, she would have reason and possibly even does, but Rei I wouln't necessarily be that aware of Ritsuko at all.

It is a stretch, and Rei would just as much hate everyone present, because they are all guilty. More importantly, whatever is in the EVA would.

Let's analyze what happened:

>EVA00 breaks free
>EVA00 grips it's head as if it is in pain
>EVA00 lashes out at the window, punching the glass
>EVA00 ceases to punch and starts hitting it's head into the wall

So what does it's behavior tell us? Does it tell us that it was trying to kill any one person? No, it does not. If EVA00 was out to kill or harm Ritsuko, it most certainly would have continued to go for her and not stop.
Then what about the scene itself? Does it focus on Ritsuko? Never. It only focuses on Gendo and Rei.

Point one: EVA00's behavior indicates that it is in pain and lashes out at everything around it. It is not going for Ritsuko.

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>>2765936
>>2765785
>>2765788
Then secondly, I think occams razor favors the "it's not rei's soul in eva00" theory more than the "Rei I is in eva00" theory.

Including the reasons in this post: >>2765936

the fact remains that there is made no claim from anyone that anything or anyone is inside EVA00. It is said Yui is in EVA01, and it is said that Kyoko was in EVA02. Because there isn't made a claim about what's in EVA00, we can only assume what is in it. Even nothing.

What we see from Rei in EVA00 doesn't look like Rei I, as we see a fully grown Rei Ayanami. Rei I was just a child.
Shinji says that what he sees isn't Rei at all. He thinks it's Rei at first, but says that it isn't.

If it's possible to insert souls into the EVA, or even whole people as happened in the case of Yui, then they could very well insert a dummy plug module or copy of Rei's pattern into EVA00. The EVA requires a mother-child bond to function, and Rei has no mother - thus, who is to say it would work at all with a soul?

It may be humbling, but we have to accept this: We do not know for certain.

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>>2765980
way to contribute to the thread.

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>>2765980
ur a fgt 2 lmao

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>>2765936
>Qshitter is Qshitter, and that guy posts Rei Q to piss people off. I do not, I just argue to understand things.
I told the other anon I wouldn't keep this up but I'm gonna take you at your word when you say you're not the Q-poster to address something:

>Look, I'm not trying to make you angry
I'm not angry because as I stated in an earlier post, I don't mind NGE discussion. but consider that /a/ is for discussion and /c/ is for images.

>For the record, both theories have merits.
>I think occams razor favors the "it's not rei's soul in eva00" theory more than the "Rei I is in eva00" theory.
I too believe both theories are possible but you're wrong about which one's more likely. 'Split-soul' requires less assumptions and the assumptions one has to make are things that are known to be possible in the show, not so with the other theory.

Split-soul theory requires a single assumption: That Rei's soul was split after Rei I's death. And we have some facts to back that possibility:
>Split souls are possible (Kyoko)
>Shiji thinks that what lurks in Unit00 is like Rei, but not like the Rei he knows.
>Ritsuko THINKS that whatever is on Unit00 is out to get her.

No-soul theory has multiple problems:
>it requires the existense of proto 'dummy plug implementations' as you call them.
>ignores that dummy what dummy plugs do is emulate pilots not replace Eva's souls.
>if by Unit00's time the AI could replace a whole eva soul there would have been no need for pilots at all. The fact remains that they couldn't simulate a soul until very late in the game. Which is why pilots exist.

>Because there isn't made a claim about what's in EVA00, we can only assume what is in it. Even nothing.
I'm with you here but you need to address the above points if you think no-soul has more merit than split-soul.

(1/2 - Side issue Ritsuko post incomming)

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>>2765945
>The EVA requires a mother-child bond to function
Eva requires a Pilot-Eva bond. It just so happens that Mother and child is a strong bond that causes few problems. But it's not a requirement set in stone the actual requirement is that the Eva accept the sync and that the pilot would be mentally capable to do it.

Shinji and Rei synced with their respective Evas. Dummy plugs were able to sync with Unit 01 when it allowed it but got rejected when Yui would not sync with anyone but Shinji in the Zeruel fight. Hell, Kaworu was able to sync with Unit 02 because he was a dominant soul.

(left over post 1/2)

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>>2765936
>that guy posts Rei Q to piss people off

I post Rei. If I actually were a troll or actually hated Rei these threads would be a complete and total mess rather than me offering polite rational analysis to counter their feet-stomping and teeth-gnashing.

The insane hypersensitive reaction is on them, not me.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn they all deleted any images of Rei even wearing black.

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>>2766071
You post Rei Q, which is what we call the character featured in 3.0. Your analysis is not polite nor rational either.

The situation is extremely simple:

A remake of a character has been made that grossly undermines the original and serves as an insult towards the original and it's fans. This happens simultaneously with changes to other characters that grossly elevates them to superior positions both in narrative and a general sense.

Rei's character is under attack by bitter, jaded otaku powerhouses and you are condoning it. It's simply the facts.

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This is aside from the Splt-Soul vs No-Soul debate and into a couple of Ritsuko points:

>Rei I hates Ritsuko (because of Naoko)
For starters it's not that Rei 1 is in Unit 00 but a fragment of Rei's soul, there's a difference.

>Rei I wouln't necessarily be that aware of Ritsuko at all.
If gendo is the closest she has to a Father, Ritsuko is the closest she has to a mother. Ritsuko is the one that takes care of Rei's medical issues.

>Rei would just as much hate everyone present, because they are all guilty.
Ritsuko says pretty much that to Gendo something like 'they'll never forgive us if they ever found out what we've done'.

And here's the reason I wrote this Ritsuko side post at all:
>EVA00's behavior indicates that it is in pain and lashes out at everything around it. It is not going for Ritsuko.
On this I think you're right. but you got wrong the point that was being made when bringing up Ritsuko into the discussion, which is: Ritsuko THINKS whatever is on the eva is out to get her, there's a reason why that's on the show it's meant to clue you into something about the nature of unit 00, She doesn't actually have to be right. because just like you, I think it was just Unit 00 lashing out in general.

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And since the last few posts have been so text heavy.

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One big unhappy family

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I feel like garbage. Got fired from my job and lost a copious amount of money from my wallet from bills, debts, and my dad's tire blew out. I'm just glad this place exists.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Wl_bT6gPg

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>>2766126
Sorry to hear that anon.

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>>2766126
Ouch. Hope it gets better.

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>>2766126
Oh dear, that's terrible. I hope things get better for you.

Remember, Rei is always with you.

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>>2766126
That sucks. Shit happens to everyone though, it'll get better eventually. Good luck, anon.

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Glad that the Report, Hide and Move On rule is working. This way we'll get rid of all the shitposters like Qshitter and Noshitter.

Great job guys.

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>>2766286

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>>2766321
Yep. Complete success. Well done!

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>went toy shopping in flea market
>didn't find anything
>shops had shit tons of figmas
>didn't even have a rei
Feels bad man

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>>2766536
>not even Rei thread is safe from normie world problems.

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>>2766536
???

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>>2762342
>Also, what is this "globalism" argument I keep hearing? I'm not aware of what the term means so please tell me.
It's where all trade barriers between nations are reduced to zero.

If two countries agree to lower barriers they effectively share a single economy. If both countries have an IT industry, for example, that industry will simply migrate to whichever country it's cheapest to operate in. This reduces the price of IT goods and services in the richer country to the level of the poorer one. The richer country haemorrhages skills and capital in this sector, since they cannot compete, which makes many people unemployed in the richer economy.

As more people are affected and made unemployed it creates resentment that lasts generations. Once this proportion of the population reaches 35% it's possible for a politician to win an election based entirely on protectionist economic policies. The only alternative a rival globalist politician can offer is government subsidies and mass migration which are unpopular with pre-globalised citizens. This is why globalist politicians often seek to institute policies to make the population more compliant by removing sources of national and ethnic pride, replacing them with global or transnational surrogates.

>>2766637
I see. But how is this different from a country's economy being made nationwide, except on a larger scale? What exactly is wrong with fostering competition on a more complex and difficult level?

You could say the resentment thing or the de-culturalization thing about individual towns, cities, or states in a country, no?

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>>2766662
>What exactly is wrong with fostering competition on a more complex and difficult level?
There is nothing complex or difficult about it. You actually avoid any responsibilities you might as a leader to your nation's history, sovereignty, self-sufficiency, culture or ethnic identity by simply ending it all.

>You could say the resentment thing or the de-culturalization thing about individual towns, cities, or states in a country, no?
The globalist philosophy dictates there's no difference between city states like Athens and Sparta being subsumed by Greece, and by Greece being subsumed by Canada, no. No distinction is made.

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>>2766685
Can a sustainable international economy and cultural pride exist at the same time?

At this point I have rather mixed opinions on this whole globalism debate, there doesn't seem to be a clear cut answer to this.

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Anons, please let's keep politics out of /rei/ all it could do is divide us when we already got too much other crap to deal with.

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>>2767015
Agreed. More Reis are in order.

>>2766662
>What exactly is wrong with fostering competition on a more complex and difficult level?


Chinks will be happy to take all of your jobs for 3$/hour. And so they do.

Globalization will equalize third world and the first world on a medium level in-between.

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>>2767050
And why shouldn't they? It's a free market, whoever's willing to take the lowest pay gets the job. You get the same thing in western countries too, where companies move to districts or states with lower rental and labor costs.

And I don't see anything wrong with helping developing countries catch up with the rest of the world. It's how the economy works in general, not just when looking at globalization.

To be completely honest, I still don't see how globalism is bad, save for some arguments on culture which in the first place would have been dissolved without globalization. In a sense, culture is like evolution, where only the fittest and strongest, or most impactful, may move on into the future. That's why LOLcats are dead now, as is ancient Roman culture.

That's my take on it, anyways. Any thoughts?

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>>2767053
>It's a free market,
It isnt, because there are different policies on taxes and labour, and many other things so you end up with some real fucky shit like EU but even worse (if you think EU isnt bad ask Greeks).

Free Market™ would be with open borders but only if said chinks and migrants would compete fairly without any state issued support and diversity programs paid by you to employ them.
If they can just come aboard with their own money and find a job thats free, if employers are paid to hire as much people from India as they can just for the fuck of it its not free.

Tldr MAGA

>In a sense, culture is like evolution, where only the fittest and strongest, or most impactful, may move on into the future.
Actually the more agressive and primitive cultures tend to destroy the more advanced peaceful ones.
Islam has destroyed countless cultures and languages of every people it touched. If passive and tolerant Europeans just keep tolerating it they will end up in a cultural dead end of Sharia law with ban on all speech, expression, art, and science where the only allowed activities are praising Allah and blowing up.

On Free Market™ welfare wouldnt exist and Muslims wouldnt be able to flood Europe on their own without government help, and they would have to work and learn the local language.
But on non-free government programs they arrive and live for free forming a society in a society instead of integration.

Actually we're following the scenario of ancient Rome's collapse when Romans got culturally dominated by the influx of barbarian slaves that basicly replaced Romans in Rome and their culture eventually and when that happened humanity basicly lost 2000 years worth of progress. Multiculturalism killed Rome.
Lets hope we learned something from them and wont repeated same mistake.

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>all this political talk
I really don't want to go full /pol/ in a nice Rei thread

>>2761636
cause shes an autist like everyone on 4chan

>>2767097
This is what you get when you decide Rei Q is against the rules and nothing else is.

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BTW it was hinted back then, but now its proven by Wikileaks.

The Left aka commie authoritarians who want a very big and a very non-free government to expand their own power over everything and spheres of influence are intentionally shipping Somali, Muslim and Indian people because they know that those people will never integrate into the western culture and they will never be succesfull and independent individuals.
They are "Professional never-do-wells" according to Hillary Rotten Crooked herself, she, Merkel and other leftists KNOW that migrants will never integrate or work, and jobless poor losers will always vote for the left because welfare, social support and all that commie shit paid by a succesfull working minority.
They intentionally shipping losers that will in future vote for non-free big government, and support high taxes for the rich. This is why they never help or accept any white refugees from anywhere no matter how brutal is war, they only need bad people.

That is globalism for you.
#MAGA

>>2767099
MAGA is important.
If you let Muslims take over they will ban pictures and all sorts of art and drawing.

ISLAM IS THE ENEMY OF ANIME!
And frankly saying this talk is still better and more relevant than Q-shitter.

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>>2767097
Sorry bro I will try and contain myself in future.

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>>2767099
I'm a 'leftie commie authoritarian' and even then /pol/ is preferable than Q.

But still, out of all the threads, in all the boards in all the web I don't want political talk here is because I love Reifags regardless of their politics, and I don't want that to change. We're at each other's throats seemingly everywhere else so let's make /rei/ our casablanca and keep things peaceful here. It would continue a beautiful friendship.

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>>2767098
Asucuck pls go

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>>2767112
I still love you.
People really need to learn solving disagreements in a civilized manner without bitching at one another.

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>>2767095
Oh don't worry, I'm well aware of how shitty the EU is.

But the differences in policies in taxes and labor gives companies and employers options, no? It's always good to be able to choose between lowly paid blue collar workers in Country A or go for high salary specialists in Country B.

Of course, now that you bring up "diversity" programs that's a major issue. Employers shouldn't have to stick to some guideline on how much of who they can employ, that's arguably more racist than employing a company full of white males because white males happen to be the most competent for the job.

Personally my opinion is that organized religion should be either banned or given less power. In the middle ages the Christian church basically ruled the state and look at how that went. Now they have less power, they don't affect society in a major way anymore. Same should apply to every other major religion. Take away their power and you take away things like ISIS.

Personally my opinion on the immigrant crisis (with whatever little I know) is that it's consisting of mostly men who are to scared to fight for their own country, prefering to flee into someone else's land while letting the rest of their own people die. No more refugees should be accepted into anywhere, this has never been the case in the past and never should be. They should fight for their homeland and should prove that they indeed are worth something.

The issue of course is that people are coming in without any contribution to society. If we can remove these bottom feeders the problem ceases to exist.

>>2767097
Sorry, will try to cut down on political talk. I'm not very well versed in Western politics so I wanted to use this to learn more about what's going on in America and Europe, as well as gain some other perspectives.

The warmth of Rei's love...

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We need more Rei

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>>2767420
I'm failing her.

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>>2767698
I already have

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Gotta keep going

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never give up

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>>2767899
>>2768048
always keep the rei alive

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Always remember: Report, Hide and Move On.

I just want to settle down and start a family with Rei.

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>>2768289
I want to start an avant-garde music duo with her and live a quiet life recording music and occasionally touring.

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>>2768356
It's been asked what kind of music she would listen to, but let's ask now, if she was a musician what kind of music would she play?

>>2768374
Considering that Death and Rebirth's string quartet isn't canon (in D) we definitely know she isn't an art musician.

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>>2768374
She listens to the same music Shinji does.

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Good ol' Qshitter, always trying to shoehorn in your forced theories and shitposting in this thread.

As usual, Report, Hide and Move On.

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>>2768395
It is canon. just not real.

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Next thread theme: Let's party like it's 1999?

>>2768530
Sure.

NEW THREAD
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>>2768549
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