How to be a polite piggy?

>>3483807
Are you willing to lose out on the 15% as well if you don't get the 25%?

>>3483849
Yes.

>>3483807
Is this girl asian?

>>3483864
Let them know your expectations for taking on a greater role. Show them why you are worth it and more valuable than putting somebody else in that job for a lower salary. Know your worth.

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>>3483867
maybe a little bit? her instagram says she is Spanish

@raquelsannicolas

What job, which has more pto

You sound like an uppity bitch though

Then WTF do you have to lose ya moron?

>>3483864
Then say
>Look DOG, I have been slaving away for years. For all that time I ahve been getting paid less than what I am entitled to. 15%? Dont make me laugh you fucking rat. I won't stay for any less than 25% with extra paid time off thrown in as well.

>>3483932
What kind of job is this? What's the market like? Are you dealing with a hiring manager, or some low tier middle management? If things are in your favor, then this is the time to negotiate. Right off the bat say "I was looking for $80k, but would be willing to take 75k in lieu of timeoff|stock options"

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OP here. I was more curious about specific things to say in the conversation.

>>3483978
Professional job, market is hot. Dealing with HR recruiter. Have access to hiring manager and supervisor could talk to them fairly easily, without much interference from the HR person.

>>3484024
> after learning a bit more, and some of the details changed.
it'd help if we knew more detail.. but

Say something like "When I accepted the offer I didn't know X, Y, Z or whatever, I am still interested but it would take me $xx,xxx to accept the position."

If it's a big corp and they pussy foot, stall, or deny, then just send a rejection notice, and don't elaborate. Just say "i've decided not to take the position".
they'll come back with a higher offer

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>>3484061
Well, for one thing, the job title of the offered position changed (and so did the level in the organization) from what I interviewed and received feedback for. I was caught very off guard and honestly I am pretty pissed about it... which is why my required remuneration is going up.

There are a lot of moving parts, but that is the essence of it.

I haven't received a written offer yet, should I go back to them with the counter offer before I get the written offer?

>>3484114
if they're baiting & switching you this early it's a bad sign anyway.
it could be a misunderstanding between job poster & the group but that's unlikely.
wait for them to give a formal offer

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>>3484159
>if they're baiting & switching you this early it's a bad sign anyway.
My thoughts exactly. And even though I really wanted the job, and it's a really good company, fuck them. But if they pay me, all is forgiven.

>>3483807

Whip your dick out during the negotiation, this is a sign that you mean business.

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>>3483896
shes gotta go back

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>>3484275
She lives in Europe

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>>3484287
my point stands

>>3484196
What company is this for? It sounds very similar to an experience I had last year.

>>3484357
I can't say exactly, but they are big.

>>3483807
Loyalty is dead. Take the raise and start looking for a better-paying job.

>>3484275
Finally, pants you can wear while shitting

>>3484445
This. You should start looking for a better-paying job.

You could even let these two jobs fight each other as in "Hey, there's another employer that wants to hire me for xx/hr. If you want me to stay you should at least offer yy% raise to be competitive. You haven't been very nice to me during my time here (with the job title etc), so don't bother offering less"

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>>3484445
>>3484509
Due to reasons, it's not feasible or worth it for me to take this job for the bump and then bounce in less than a few years. Which is why I need to get paid more to come.