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Autist portfolio guy here.

Wanted to know what do you think of my current crypto distribution and maybe you have ideas which cryptos I should put more money in and which ones suck?

Also, shill me new ones and why (if you have any ideas).

I will do annual rebalancing this year to put some of this sum into index funds. I'm going for 80% crypto and 20% indices.

The dip sucked and my portfolio fell to about $300k, but now I'm back up again.

With SegWit implemented we have potential Lightning Network, combining atomic swaps with other blockchains, cheap offchain transactions with unlimited scaling almost, RootStock for smart contracts on Bitcoin and then we also have Ethereum long tail potential (ICOs and sheet), Putin backing to launder his billions and NEO, the Chinese Ethereum possibly backed by Chinese gov.

Holding the BCH fork sum as well, it was a gift from the Triad and Jihan cartel after all. NI HAO JIHAN!
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looks like you own all major coins there. How long are you trading/investing? where did you get capital from?

consider to add https://liqui.io/#/exchange/DNT_BTC
https://district0x.io/
Its around ICO price now.
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>>2994917
>looks like you own all major coins there. How long are you trading/investing? where did you get capital from?

I gambled about total of 20'000 USD of my funds on Bitcoin 4 years ago and Ethereum 1 year ago. Told myself will hold long term and diversify. I don't think my gambles in crypto exceed 20'000 USD, but they have done well so fast.

Only thing I'm doing now is thinking if I can diversify into more potential alts, but not too much.

I think the long tail coins will have the most potential. Bitcoin gained long tail potential (infrastructure) with SegWit and eventual Lightning Network, so does Ethereum, NEO, Litecoin. Monero is a good criminal coin.

Others are super gambles.

My goal is to rebalance annually and siphon some of the money into safer stock indices.

Oh, I got my capital of 20'000 USD from my regular day job.
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>>2994718
>no XRL
tsk tsk
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>>2995000
Sell me XRL.

Market maker? What is that? Like Bancor for Ethereum?
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>>2994917
Buy this, talks of getting listed on bitfinex.
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>>2994992
>I think the long tail coins will have the most potential.
Which of the 4 you identify do you believe is most likely to succeed?
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>>2995014
If you're really interested I would suggest checking out the white paper. Even if you decide it's not for you it's still an interesting read.
>https://www.rialto.ai/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/RIALTO.AI_Whitepaper.pdf
The team is qualified and don't seem to be fucking around.
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>>2994992
cool, gratz m8!

Soon there will be real mass adoption of crypto so consider some projects for normies like iconomi, taas.fund, soon there will be really cool ICO of neufund.org.

All bitcoin and altcoin debit cards will boom soon couse you do not need any personal data or bank account to pay by card for everything. Take a look on monaco and TenXpay
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>>2995023
Eth and neo
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>>2995014
arbitrage bot paying dividends in eth
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http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-and-moores-law-2017-8
yeah faggot stop wasting time buying shitcoins and accumulate as much bitcoin as you can
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>>2995025
thats looks awesome
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what the fuck man
last time I saw your portfolio you had 400k

what did you do?
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Umbrella Coin is best coin
http://www.umbrellacoin.org
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>>2994718
>he fell for the IOTA meme
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>>2995023
Bitcoin, Ethereum...not sure, maybe also NEO and LTC
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not enough ARK and BLOCK
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>>2994718
OP Take a look at XRP and don't fall for the muh market cap/muh pre-mine/ muh xrp is useless FUD...
Take a look, I'd be interested to hear your take on it.

Full disclosure- I'm not long XRP just been reading up on it lately.
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>>2995261
+1 senpai
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>>2994718
"Long tail pototential"

Kek autism my ass.
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>>2994718
Oh nice, you made a new one.
I still have your old one saved, it's actually pretty useful anon you should invite me your sheets with view only. ;)
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>>2994718
Nice to see u are still around. I think this is the 3rd thread i see u post. I shall make sure to check out the coins i do not currently own. Research edgeless, its great :)
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>>2994718
How are you holding all these coins? You're not leaving them all on an exchange, are you?
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hi crypto autist

i saved your old portofolio a while back, thanks for the inspiration. Pic related
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>>2995669
Actually, does anyone know how one might hold so many coins in a secure manner?

Would I need like twenty different wallets or something? Even if I bought a special laptop just for that, it seems hard to make sure its hard drive never fails.
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>>2994718
where's your OMG?
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My own autist portfolio for comparison.
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>>2996652
store your wallets on the siacoin network :^)
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>>2996838
my nigga
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>>2994718
Hey its the fomo autist!
I told you to get rid of that ether before when it was creeping under the all time high. I think you were close to a million before.
I also said you should have got your free byteball.
My next advice is to cash out some of that BTC into fiat while you still have a chance.
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>>2994718
by the way did you just buy 100k of DGB ?
Nice!!
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I would say Blocknet would be very close to tier 3 at this point.

Apart from that nice spread. You gon be rich.
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>>2994992
Same. I put about 10k in BTC in 2013 and now I've got it to about 200k. I wish I put more, but I was 18 and did not have much capital to begin with. Right now it's all in BTC, LTC, ETH, and XRP
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I don't see VIA or IOC this two are sleeping giants. Do the research you will see i am right.
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Hey do you think neo will dip in the next days to about 400k?
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>>2994718
Nice to see some people are smart enough to keep the majority of their portfolio in non-shitcoins.

But why no OMG?
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>>2994718
>XCP while rootstock & sidechains are a guarantee unless SegWit2x implodes BTC
sell sell sell

>BAT
>implying advertising will see any form of 'revolution' while the browser industry is dominated by an advertising company

>DGB
>gaming potential
Nobody important will ever use this or any other crypto for game marketplaces or rewards for gameplay. This is a meme perpetuated by a minecraft server mod experiment (which was shut down because it was vulnerable to exploits within the game) and a bunch of /biz/ shilling. Digusign is an even worse joke.

>NEO
Development is very slow. Majority of work comes from a single developer, their "chief technology officer". It's riding the coattails of ETH and is subject to P&D. Downgrade to 4

>WAVES
Unless ETH implodes, ERC20 & BNC have been decided on as the industry standards. Downgrade to 4

>Anonymous tokens
Don't go long on them. Fungibility improvements are constantly on the mind of BTC/ETH & both are making strides towards anonymity through sidechains & ZCash's protocol being ported to ETH contracts.

Other than these, the only thing I notice you missing is decentralized storage. StorJ falls into dropbox clone territory and is subject to competition from self-hosted services like OwnCloud, but SIA is targeting an enterprise audience, even though it's early on in development. It's intended to provide the reliability of AWS/Azure, but without the steep cost, which makes it appealing to small/medium businesses or services requiring immense amounts of storage space (e.g. video hosting). Its inflation is immense right now, but proof of burn picks up once storage begins to be used so I consider it a very long hold.

Decentralized and anonymous markets are something I'd keep an eye out for too thanks to drug money.

Good list though. Thanks for sharing.
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LITEcoin and Ethereum have serious future....
Expect RIPPLE to moon next year at some point....
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>>2994718
do you day trade?
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$OMG
$OMG
$GAS $NEO
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>>2995111
>what did you do?

I hodl

nothing else

Oh I also sold some ETH for BTC to rebalance

So I hedl and rebalanced
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>>2995669
I only have a few small shitcoins on exchange, I keep most of my stash in hardware wallets under my epoxied birdbath
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>>2997353
>I think you were close to a million before.

I was not, this is the highest I've ever been.

I did sell some of ETH for BTC actually.

>My next advice is to cash out some of that BTC into fiat while you still have a chance.


Why do you think BTC will plummet not to return?

I'm a simpler hodler, too pussy to do anything but hodl and rebalance

>>2997368
No, I bought DGB long time ago and sold a few for other alts
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>>2998233
>But why no OMG?

What is the deal with OMG? Sell me on it.

>XCP while rootstock & sidechains are a >guarantee unless SegWit2x implodes BTC
>sell sell sell

Meh, I have so little in XCP might as well hodl. However, thanks for advice.

>BAT
>implying advertising will see any form of 'revolution' while the browser industry is dominated by an advertising company

Yes, you are correct, but still...why not hold a lil bit.

>DGB
>gaming potential
Nobody important will ever use this or any other crypto for game marketplaces or rewards for gameplay. This is a meme perpetuated by a minecraft server mod experiment (which was shut down because it was vulnerable to exploits within the game) and a bunch of /biz/ shilling. Digusign is an even worse joke.

Ok, you are right. I fell for the meme. But it is in tier 4 for a reason, pretty much gamble coin.

>NEO
>Development is very slow. Majority of work comes from a single developer, their "chief technology officer". It's riding the coattails of ETH and is subject to P&D. Downgrade to 4

Hmm, chinks are hardworking and if communist party controls / endorses NEO, it might just work. I will keep it.

>WAVES
>Unless ETH implodes, ERC20 & BNC have been decided on as the industry standards. Downgrade to 4

Ok, will consider. WAVES is pretty crappy, they removed niggercoin.

>Anonymous tokens
>Don't go long on them. Fungibility improvements are constantly on the mind of BTC/ETH & both are making strides towards anonymity through....

Correct on Zcash, but don't they have SegWit allowing future offchain transactions with BTC / LTC? Also, isn't Monero the only one truly fungible coin?

>StorJ falls into dropbox clone territory and is subject to competition from self-hosted services like OwnCloud...

I don't think those services will outcompete AWS/Google Drive, Eth based projects like IexEc, Golem.

>Decentralized and anonymous markets are something I'd keep an eye out for too thanks to drug money.

We will have it on ETH :)
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>>2998678
no, never
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>>2998854
>Why do you think BTC will plummet not to return?
>I'm a simpler hodler, too pussy to do anything but hodl and rebalance

unless you got a shit ton of money outside of your coin-portfolio, this would be my #1 priority at this point: Protecting your wealth. I see you rebalance and shit, but having said coins on hardware wallets will be too slow to get it out of the system if (!) shit ever hit the fan for good.

I'd feel uneasy to have that much in volatile coins while keeping them hours away from options to liquify. How do you do it?
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>>2998884
>Correct on Zcash, but don't they have SegWit allowing future offchain transactions with BTC / LTC? Also, isn't Monero the only one truly fungible coin?

Yes, SegWit/LN improve BTC's fungibility by moving some data offchain. There are also other subprojects to BTC which are intended to improve fungibility although I can't recall its name off the top of my head.

For Monero, I'm not knowledgeable enough about its internals to give you a good answer. I'm aware that full chain data is hidden from users, so I'd assume that it's done in a freenet/perfect dark style where it's striped over the network in encrypted chunks. They could be doing something stupid though, considering you need to be at least aware of your own balance (and thus tx history).

Point was that BTC/ETH eat away at XMR's appeal just by being good enough. I'll be dumping XMR after 1-2 years of fungibility improvements to BTC/ETH just because there won't be much more room to grow.

>I don't think those services will outcompete AWS/Google Drive, Eth based projects like IexEc, Golem.

For huge enterprises I agree, but reliable storage is not as cheap as you believe. Small video hosting services (e.g. weird porn sites like iwara.tv where content is controversial) are desperate for cheap storage and usually resort to Hetzner/OVH boxes which don't allow room to grow without severe overhead.

Many small businesses are also wary of centralizing their infrastructure on cloud services, but that's not something I can convince you of over the Internet. You'd have to talk to SMBs yourself.
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>>2998940
>I'd feel uneasy to have that much in volatile coins while keeping them hours away from options to liquify. How do you do it?

Well, what can happen that all of this would suddenly plummet to 0? I mean, at this point - is it even possible? I am used to my portfolio dropping 50%, going up and down. I know I'm too dumb to time the market and I know that I should never rush the judgement as that is what normies do. I told myself I will keep this long term for 5-10 years and that is what I'm doing. If something happens with Bitcoin, I have BCH, ETH and other shitcoins as diversification.

Yes, I have a few hundred thousand outside this as well, in regular stocks and cash, but most of my wealth is in crypto. With the rapidly growing cryptospace infrastructure, this shit should go up in long term. $120 billion is peanuts comparing to $7 trillion gold cap and $69 trillion total publicly traded stock cap + these are actual currencies that you can use for purchases and shit. You can't really do that with gold and stocks. Putting this into perspective always helps me sigh off in relief.
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>>2997533
This.
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>>2999154
what is your housing situation ?
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>>2999154
how old are you btw? You sound 45+; the 'it will all turn out fine, give it a year or two' is showing. Im in my early 20s and Id be way too restless to handle it that way. However, I live paycheck to paycheck so I cant really get a long investment perspective in my daily life rn.

Anyways, thanks and godspeed!
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>>2994718

portfolio saved. Thanks dude! what are your thoughts on funfair and aragon? I see these as great tier 4s due to the team behind both coins.
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>>2999225
I am 30 and live comfortably. I do not need this money to pay my bills.
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>>2994718
cloak is a better privacy coin than monero.
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What do you think of TenX?
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>>2996652
Im pretty sure there is no way to do it
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>>2998753
Thank you for answering!

Can you (or anyone else) recommend some hardware wallets?

Ideally, I'd hold like 10-20 different cryptos. I'd rather not have to hold 10-20 different wallets unless that's necessary.
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>>2994718
that's a nice spreadsheet - can you tell me how you can have the coin prices updated automatically so that you don't have to do it manually?
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>>2999834
I second this.
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>>2999785

>

Yes. Check this thread:

https://forum.bitcoin.com/alternative-clients/trezor-vs-ledger-nano-s-t11034.html

I think they review both Trezor and Ledger.

I just bought both, I really like them. Trezor has the added feature of passwords in case of 5$ wrench attack. Just don't give anyone your 24 word seeds, get cryptosteel for them and keep them safe, so you can always restore if you lose or destroy your hardware wallet.

>Ideally, I'd hold like 10-20 different cryptos. I'd rather not have to hold 10-20 different wallets unless that's necessary.


Ledger and trezor both offer multiple crypto support. Not all, but a few of the big ones.

>that's a nice spreadsheet - can you tell me how you can have the coin prices updated automatically so that you don't have to do it manually?


Yes, it does it all automatically with IMPORTXTML and a little script.
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Am I blind or do I miss a few like XRP, ICN, ZEC, EOS, STR?

Just a newbie here trying to find his way in here
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CDT, AMP, SAFEX, VIA
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>>2998889
pros and cons of why you don't?
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>>3000239
>pros and cons of why you don't?

Cryptos are in a long term bull market, tendency overall will be that they most likely go up than down. If you believe in growth of this industry, technically just holding long term with proper diversification and regular rebalancing you should be profitable.

The only reason to day trade is if it would make you even more profitable. It is definitely easier to day trade in a bull market. However, to develop a proper strategy that is based on technicals and fundamentals I would have to backtest it and see how it would have performed in the past. I am not sure how to do that and researching it would take away time from my regular jobs. I work as a consultant for two companies and have my own business that brings me regular income. Mastering backtesting would mean I have to say no to something that I already have and that is profitable for me.

Let us say I develop a strategy with which I win 51%+ times and lose 49%- times overall making me profitable in long run.

I will most likely miss the absolute bottoms and also the absolute peaks.

So in some cases I would have "earned" more by holding, since you can hold to the peak and in other cases I would have "lost less" by selling before the bottom. But overall these fluctuations should even out and not differ much from what I would have gained by holding.

Even if I do manage to be,e.g. 20% more profitable by day trading than I would have been by holding?

Right, that still means I have to sit on my computer all the time 24/7, because these markets do not sleep, have constant stress while suffering opportunity cost from new business ventures that would have been more profitable in the long run.

1) Focusing on day/swing trading over holding= +20% more profits if (BIG IF) I spend a lot of time and master day trading (which I don't know how to do)

2) Focusing on business ventures I already know= +50% more profits,less risk,less time possibly spent on something that won't work.
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>>3000430
it's actually incredible that you've been doing this for 4 years and haven't figured out how to trade.......
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>>3000430
anything changed in your daily life? Still working? Or has the money has some impact?
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>>3000430
I have a feeling that if I listen to you then I'll be able to earn enough to pay off my student loans. Thanks anon. I'll stop checking blockfolio every day.

One question. What is "rebalancing" and how do you go about it?
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>>3000464
He has a 600k portfolio and seems to have a career. Does not seem like learning to trade needs to be his priority.
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>>3000537
I would also like to learn this.
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>>3000537
>One question. What is "rebalancing" and how do you go about it?
This
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>>3000537
>>3000551
Not OP, but it means that he is altering his portfolio to maintain a certain proportion of holdings of each coin.

i.e if siacoin moons and it now makes up half of his portfolio, he won't keep it all. He will redistribute some of the sia profits into other coins to maintain a similar balance as before.
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lol, Ethereum has NO real world use, NONE WHAT SO EVER. Unless you consider scam ICO's real world use. Hope you're happy paying for Vitaliks pension, blow and hooker.
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>>3000613
Oh that makes sense. Right now I'm like 80% in neo. Makes me kind of nervous.
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>>3000558
So how often should this rebalanced be done?

After this past week 80% of my portfolio became NEO, it was around 40% before.
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>>2994718

i remember one of your last threads you called neo a shitcoin in your chart lmao
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>>3000509
Everything is the same.

>>3000464
Well, do you have a guide? For one I would need to hire programmers to create software for proper backtesting of strategies, then code bots that would do the particular trading strategy and hope to profit from that. Otherwise just buying and selling is stupid. If you have a solid strategy down it should be quantifiable, thus a bot could be programmed to do it. Otherwise it is just "feels". And I don't feel confident in my ability to come up with a solid strategy. I'd like to learn a bit in my spare time though.

>>3000613
>lol, Ethereum has NO real world use, NONE WHAT SO EVER.

ICO ponzi scam platform is real world use.

>Hope you're happy paying for Vitaliks pension, blow and hooker.

How so? I bought my ETH at 4$.

>>3001498
>i remember one of your last threads you called neo a shitcoin in your chart lmao


I don't think I did.
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>>2995783
>>3001596

ANS, Tier 4, "Chinese Ethereum"
Shitcoin with a chance of going mainstream
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>>3001609
Well, since it rebranded I move it to Tier3. New name and style is much more promising.
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>>2994718
Buy GAS on binance dude
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>>2994718
Have you considered looking into Aragon? They have a working product and are starting to bring on more clients to use the product.
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>>3002060
I do have some aragorn in there
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>>2998748
>>2998753
>>2998854
>>2994718
>>2994992
>>2995014


Hey man. Nice work
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