This is Japanese labor environment

are you japanese? I thought it was very difficult to get a work visa in japan. also who would be able to compete with japanese workers? you guys work yourselves to death

>>2523324
>They're thinking workers are like slave

luckily the chinese arent human

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Only immigrants can make Japan great again.

Fractional reserve banking is a global ponzi scheme at the trillion dollar level that only works if you constantly have new people (more children or immigrants) taking on loans. People+government taking loans allows for imaginary growth rates to be posted which stimulates spending (even though no growth has occured) and improves standard of living in the short term.

Japan chose to stop the ponzi scheme by not having children and not importing immigrants, and they are paying the price.

We are all slaves, just some people haven't realized it yet.

>>2523355
Yes i'm from Japan.
i don't know about visa in detail but some country like China or Philippine's people are receiving some assistance from Japanese government. And let them in Japan and ''use'' them like slave.
It is OK only Japanese people die from over working but it must not be forced to other country people i think

>>2523401
yes we are slaves.
but slaves should be treated as ''human''
if slaves are treated like garbage , they'll die immediately and employer will suffer from shortage of people

>>2523324
its worth to mention that the majority of those 150.000 foreigners are chinese and koreans. Whites are actually a minority there .

>>2523538
Exactly. Most of foreign workers are from China Indonesia Vietnam Korea or some Asian countries. White people are distinguished from those min wage works.
In my opinion this is definitely Racism

>>2523324

Japanese literally have a word for working to death which is "Karoshi". Some sick fucks. It's also considered impolite and generally bad if you leave from work before your boss/coworkers. Many sleep in office when they miss the last train, etc.

In spite of that, it might come as a surprise that Japan is actually not that much productive. Companies there are not as fast paced as you would expect given the workload. They are simply too stressed out and too phased away from reality to be creative, which greatly cuts productivity. The best working environments in Japan (i.e most productive) actually have to force their employees to take days off and to leave office at the right time. I don't know what makes these people so focused that they literally walk into their deaths like ants, but if they do that to themselves, imagine to those they consider inferior.

>>2523605
There is a slow change to better work environments in Japan, but it is a very slow change. The Japanese hold on to tradition strongly, but that isn't ever going to change.

One of the main draw cards for tourism is that very fact, that a lot of traditions haven't been forgotten, but that does come with negatives as well.

>>2523602
The Japanese are some of the most racist people i have ever met, albiet not always in a direct form

>>2523602
>Racism

Get these faggot ideas out of your head and have some pride that your country isn't a multicult shithole.

>>2523324
こういうスレ立てるのなんか意味ないんじゃない?
だいたいの外人日本のことなんも知らないし
ましてやこのサイトにいる人ほとんどみんな日本に対して変なイメージしか持ってないよ?

>>2523324
Not surprised the pigs at the top of Japan arent happy with just fleecing japanese anymore

Japan is one of the greatest countries on Earth.

Stop drawing attention to it. Leave them alone and let them live how they want.

>>2523444
The biggest problem is management in japanese companies. You work 2x as long and get less done than other countries. To me it looks like it's the fault of the post ww2 generation, they adopted the bad habits of american companies but still want all the perks the previous generation of managers and leaders enjoyed. Meanwhile they expect employees to act like nothing changed when they don't enjoy the same loyalty from the companies they work at.

>>2523324

I'm sorry to hear about this, OP. I've heard that it's difficult to be a foreign worker in Japan.

>>2523669
i do have a pride and loving my country.
BUT this working environment situation is objectively looking crazy and it has some kind of Racism

>>2523669
Your racist is unwanted in Japan.

>>2523809
i don't know in detail but i've heard that some Asian countries are receiving assistance from Japanese government.
Maybe white people are out of the assistance

>>2523685
何も知らないから知ってもらおうとしているのですよ

>>2523685
特に意味がないけど、写真わ面白い。 それとこのサイトに少し日本に働いて望んでいる外人わ居る。 しかしこの写真わ主にベトナム人と中国人に関係している、このサイトのユーザーじゃない。 私わ馬鹿外人です、日本語の練習わありがとう。

I probably completely fucked up the 働いて grammar, was just guessing.

>>2524081
You're supposed to use ha as wa when using it as a particle

>>2524081
What i want to say is Japanese are treating foreign people as slaves. nationalitycitizenship is not quite important.
Anyway your Japanese is great :)

>>2523665
To do what they did in WWII racism would have to be embedded deep within their cultural psyche.

3000 years of culture doesn't change in 80 years.

>>2523444
You are a good Japanese man. I think many Japanese have a secret disdain for Chinese people and I don't think anything will change.

>>2523324
Japanese are racists. They treat foreign workers like slaves, and local workers like lesser slaves, but still slaves.

>>2523324

But the flyer you showed doesn't talk about "Foreigners" in general, it specifies "Chinese and Vietnam workers"
And it's true that they're subhuman slaves

>>2524622
your english is also very nice

off topic but does anyone lnow an effective way to learn japanese?i want to become a translator

Im studying privately via textbook but i want to know what else i can do

Lul im guessing they're hoping to get chinese workers and not mudslimes or sub saharan africans

>>2523324
>immigrate to japan
>die from overworking

kek

>>2525844
Thanks :)
Maybe it is a truth. Very sad thing though...

OP YOU FUCKING CHINESE FUCK STOP DUMPING ANTSHARES YOU YELLOW CUNT

>>2525914
yes that's right. But don't you think this is totally discrimination and is the problem?

>>2525932
Thanks brother :)

>>2525950
Make conversion with Japanese people is the best way i think (but finding the Japanese who can speak English is difficult XD)

>>2526171
Yes I'm yellow but i am Japanese. don't use such a dirty words

>>2523324
I will go to Japan.
I will get a degree
I will start own translation company
I will employ Japanese people
I will then treat them as English people are treated, and will kick people out if they act like Jcucks

Work will be more productive.
Jap companies will wonder how I do it
Jap companies copy me
Jap productivity increases
Suddenly recession is gone
Japan Economy saved
Be made Emperor
Marry 100 Japanese qt waifus
Become future of Japan.

>>2526231
haha I expect you

>>2525950
Kansai College of Business and Language

costs just £10k for two years.

Japan's work culture is fucked up. Probably similar to korean and such. It's even worse than anywhere else. Hopefully a lot of people are aware of that. It's still possible to get a job that isn't slave-like in Japan but it's much more difficult.

>>2526302
I think its only so hard for the Japs.
No normal white person would stand for it, Ive sat in bars and fucking macfags are there doing stuff for work, it's ridiculous.
Even at my hotel they were working 18 hours a day. There at breakfast and there when I went to bed.

>>2523324

現在の外人がほとんどゴミだからいいじゃん

自分の国を守る

日本は日本人のためにある

現在の甘くて弱いの日本人が門の近くの獣に見えられない

門を開けたら、獣人が日本を滅ぼすよ

>>2526413
その日本人を守るための国力として外国の方を安くこき使ってるのが問題と思うのですが

what the fuck does sitting around at the office longer than 8 hours even produce?

i dont have more than a couple hours of work a day and the project gets finished on time

>>2526522
安くこき使ってがおk
でも
何年後、問題が現れる
子供作り
30年後 ハフの数が爆発
60年後 日本人とハフの数が同じぐらい
100年後 日本に消える

安い労働のために
儚い軽薄な金のために
一番大事な物、「血」を売れば
すべてを滅ぼす

>>2523324
No fucking shit man. Let me guess: you're a sad weeaboo who moved to Japan because muh animooz but then realized too late that the culture is fucked.

>>2523355
>also who would be able to compete with japanese workers? you guys work yourselves to death

A common misconception of the reality.
While it is true that many japanese work in shitty contracts, the time you actually work is... "different".

A german is working from 8 ro 5, when you tell him. He will take his breaks and god forbid you tell him to do otherwise. He will make overtime, if the work needs it, but he will demand additional compensation for it. The work will be finished.

A french wants you to know the contract word by word. And if you stray away from what is inside of it, he will go on strike and most likely wreck the bureau while doing it. Work however will be finished, if it is within the contract.

A japanese however stays for 14 hours inside of the bureau. He will sleep 2 hours, watches football with his collegues for another two hours, talk to the hottie from accounting for another hour and take a break of one hour in between. Afterwards, he gets home and is complaining on how hard his day was because he had to travel 2 hours to get back home.
The work however is indeed finished.

I dont want to badmouth japanese work ethics. But their definition of "work" is usually quite different from other countries and is overlapping with free time and socializing with collegues way more.

>>2526895
You forgot the part you can't really leave the office because your superior is still in the office and you can't really go home because your superior asked you out for beer.

>>2526940
>You forgot the part you can't really leave the office because your superior is still in the office and you can't really go home because your superior asked you out for beer.

Yeah, that also is a strange thing. But I saw this also in NY in some firms. Once I saw a intern collapse, because he worked through the night, not knowing that his boss were sleeping on the couch for this night. He pulled an all-nigher for no reason.

>>2523324
Buy bitbeans

>>2526231
your plan is gonna take like 40 years man. By that time all the viagra in the world wont help you get it up. what good will your 100 qt waifus be to you then?

>>2526555
They're actually pretend to work. because work longer and longer , he will get more better evaluation.

>>2526790
そうした問題もありますよね。人道的にも血脈的にも良くないですよね。

>>2523324
Oh I blame it OP, believe you me, I fucking blame it.

>>2526844
i'm sorry to tell you but your guess is wrong. i'm born in Japan and grew up here.
i noticed how fucked up Japanese labor environment recently because i'm young. i couldn't notice that because mass media didn't say these kind of things. Thanks to Internet development , i could finally realize the truth.

>>2523821
you need socialism fampai

>>2527291
why do you think so?

I would love to move to Japan because it's a safe country with a super low crime rate and the Japanese people that I've met at events and concerts have always been super nice. I also love that it has near enough every type of climate so you get the best of everything. Tropical beaches in the summer & ski resorts up north in the winter.

However I would only ever move there if I was financially independent because the work culture in Japan is fucked up.

>>2527313
so people get decent wages and lower work hours. Either that or force everyone to have kids

I wish i could make my own nation where peopl are all maximized for their proeuctivity while still keeping a certain quality of living bt finding an overlap in enjoying their work.

>>2527395
Totally agree. Living Japan is great but working here is nightmare.

>>2527405
Understood. Actually Japan is close to socialism already. Government is collecting money and distribute it through the pension system. It's socialism more like democracy isn't it?

>>2523388
Worked really well for Germany, England, Sweden .... especially Sweden.
Now they are first!....oh wait.

>>2526346
They're not working 18 hours/day.

They're just at the office that long.

>>2527492
that's a capitalist welfare state bro

>>2527492
I saw a documentary about pensioners in Japan and how many are not even receiving their pensions that they are entitled too. Even the ones that do get their pensions, they are struggle to get by because the pensions were designed for when multiple generations lived in the same home.

Now because people leave home much sooner, the old folks are having a hard time. Also due to the rapidly aging population the government is under a lot of pressure and hasn't really found a solution to solve this problem yet.

I wonder how they will deal with this issue.

>>2527939
yes you are right. i was short of studying.
Sorry for that.

>>2527971
That's important problem too. I'm scared of thinking when i got old. I think just ''living'' will be quite difficult. We may be in turning point...

>>2528027
Indeed I feel the same way about where I live (England), I'm hoping that my cryptocurrency investments can free me from that worry over the next few years. I would like to earn enough to move to a country where living costs are cheaper so I could live more comfortably.

>>2523388
NO