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Explain to me how billions of people across the world put up

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Explain to me how billions of people across the world put up with working a 9 to 5 or working for a boss?

How hasn't there been a complete makeover of this bullshit yet? Everyone just seems to accept that they're going to go to work five days a week at forty hours until they're close to death?

Like??????
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>>2245076
You have to eat. People are brainwashed and retards.
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Yes, the mental health system scoops them up, meds them up, and sends them back to work
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easy
they were idiots and procreated
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>>2245083
It's fucking baffling, honestly

How fucked is our world that we are absolutely required to work for some faggot to survive?
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>>2245106
>absolutely required

That's where you're wrong, kiddo

Use your brain and show your worth. Slaves have a slavish nature. Do you want something more?
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>>2245106
You are always required to work, often for someone that is smarter and more capable of doing a higher level of management than you are.

What should you be having a problem with is how boomers and the state somehow managed to destroy the greatest boom in economic productivity in less than one generation
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>>2245117
Do you, waggie?
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>>2245117
For a majority of people, it's right though.

Sure, you can break off and do your own thing like start a business or something but how many people are going to be successful doing so?

Of course I want something more. Everyone on this board wants something more
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>>2245106
>required
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>>2245076
You can apply this attitude to many things.

Most people take the path of least resistance.

Most people don't want to fuck about with Linux so they use Windows or Mac.

Most people don't want to fuck about with the complexities of becoming an Entrepreneur, business owner or trader so they take the easy route.
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>>2245129
How often are you working for someone smarter instead of compared to someone who has been in your field longer or somebody who has more access to capital?
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Sadly, you just get used to it.
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>>2245086
I am a corporate slave consultant. I make $162k a year and I hate my life. I did not spend 14 consecutive days in one time zone last calendar year (know this from doing taxes).

I take amphetamines in the morning in order to function and then sleeping pills, alcohol, and the occasional marijuana if I'm in Cali Colorado or Washington.

Leaving my job June 30 with nothing else lined up.

Couldn't be fucking happier. OP hit me right in the feels. Wage slavery is death.
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>>2245148
Good point

Still though, blame boomers for this
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>>2245158
At least you get to travel

Sitting in the same fucking office in the same fucking city day in and day out is fucking suicidal
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No everyone is been build to start their own business.
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>>2245158
I'm a consultant who never, ever gets to travel. It's fucking baffling, I know, because I love to travel and I hate this goddamn job. I'm here to make enough money to be able to not have to work again and get out. Whatever helps me get there faster is good. That's all I know. If I decided to start a business, I don't know what I'd do for people or how I'd do it.

Let's switch.
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>>2245076
going through all of highschool i always intended i would never go to post secondary because i knew nothing would change from my current situation but i have even been ridiculed and called a retard numerous times from people actually telling me to seriously go to college or something.

whenever i asked them why or why they are going to they would never have an answer and just say something "uhh because you have to". but it doesnt matter what my hops and dreams were or how i wanted to take a different path and even just live off a backpack or be a hippie because it was always the same thing their parents tell them to do, almost like you completely ignore who you are and finding out who you are when growing up
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>>2245076
Back when slavery was legal, the owners paid an inflation adjusted $40,000 for the slave's shelter, food, clothing. Now many years later the average income is just north of $40,000.

>Really ionizes my castor seeds
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>>2245190
>>2245209

It's a trap prize. I average around 20 hours a week traveling, the constant change and inability to form routines is killer on the body. The only people over 25 who enjoy this work are people who are unhappy with their lives at home. Lots of my co-workers have affairs with each other

3 years of living out of a suitcase so my bosses can make money is no way to live.
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Pal, at least 90% of humanity is content with letting others be the lead. They just want their basic needs met, a little luxury now and then and above all else - stability. Knowing that on day X they'll receive X amount of money makes their life predictable and therefore the future less scary.

Personally I'm 50/50 on this topic. I'll be more than happy if I earn 150k/year in the future, plus I don't have to waste time a single thought on my job after leaving the office. But being an entrepreneur means working nonstop. As a lazyfag, this doesn't bode well with me.
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>>2245240
I know you say it but... I just wish I could do it.

Assuming you're traveling to other countries I mean. If it's just the US I'm not so sure.
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>>2245076


Questions:

>Explain to me how billions of people across the world put up with working a 9 to 5 or working for a boss?

They are forced to by their circumstances. It is not a choice. Thus, no freedom.


>How hasn't there been a complete makeover of this bullshit yet?

People are fearful that if other people weren't forced to work, they wouldn't have, or be be able to consume at their current or preferred level.
Answer:

>Everyone just (((( accepts ))) that they're going to go to work five days a week at forty hours until they're close to death.

Yes. Many people die before retirement, and many very soon after.
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Lmao, 21 years old, never worked a day in my life, I am doing online business about to sell my website for $15k

I am also in uni and I see all poorfags with eyebags crying how they have to save on food while I am eating take out everyday.

Literally
Never
Worked

Then again I have the personality for it, I accepted that if I fuck up financially and have to slave for the rest of my life in a cubicle I will take a shit ton of LSD, hop on a freeway and try to dodge as many cars as possible before crashing
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>>2245321
Nope purely domestic, put in around 200k miles a year because I have to do a ton of transcons. I've got the highest status on American and JetBlue (only one level) so I get bumped up to first a lot but that's just a slight sliver lining.

Work in a field that's heavily regulated by the government so no need for overseas travel.
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>>2245361
just swallow a bullet m8, nobody deserves to die for your mental retardation
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The only thing that keeps me going is that im going to rob one of the directors of the company i work for.
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>>2245373
nobody deserves my scammy products yet I am living a dream. Have some chutzpah.
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>>2245373
>>2245377

also

>putting LSD on every newschannel because you are a gutless shitbird

have some decency for once
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>>2245382
out of the way bum, your breath smells ;)
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>>2245361
Woah, you're 21 and you've never worked? That's unheard of
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>>2245382
now this is a quality post

we don't need to give the oppressive overlords any more ammo
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>>2245384
>virgin neet with 20k networth playing rough on an anonymous imageboard

lmaoing
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>>2245076

Yes some people like being productive
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>>2245396
chill dude
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>>2245076
Crypto is that makeover. Decentralized free markets for everything. There will no longer be corporations or even governments. Global anarcho-capitalism is the future.
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>>2245076
More and more people do not put up with it. They often end up on disability, on drugs. I see it everyday working in a property management company. Probably 60-70% or more of our units are rented to people on some form of support (ODSP, Ontario Works, etc). Most of them smoke, drink, and do drugs excessively. It's very sad to see an under-class grow and grow within your own city.

People need to be apart of something bigger than themselves to live optimally. They need a job at the very LEAST, they need a family, and they need to engage with the larger community too. I'm very afraid to see the outcome of UBI, something being experimented with in Ontario. Many seem optimistic, but I think we will see a class of people living hand-to-mouth on whatever the government will give them, and they will always vote to get more.

If you're really bored or stressed by your job you are likely over or under qualified. You have to find an area where you can be relatively competent, but still challenged. People want to contribute and be productive and when that is taken away from them they become destructive.
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>>2245406
>p-please my asshole is gaping

k bb
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>>2245240
>3 years of living out of a suitcase so my bosses can make money is no way to live.
Brutal. At least you're a well paid slave. Hope you invest in crypto and have 3 mil in the bank.
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>>2245106
You must be trolling.
You dont have to do shit you can go live on The side walk in Manhattan and never have to work a day in your, literally your dream and you deserve it kid. You should hurry up i saw a nice spot outside Penn station that was vacant.
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>>2245575
You literally know nothing about the world. Continue watching your anime and jerking off to 2D waifus please
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>>2245630
At least their more real than the bullshit I'm reading on this fucking board.
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>>2245076
> Implying that computers and automation didn't or aren't reinventing the way we work.

Bro, we have already been unshackled. Just because you work a drive thru window doesn't mean the rest of us are stuck in the 19th century... You've simply been left behind.
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>>2245421
>smart post on /biz/
>no reply
everytime

Worse than gibs voting for gibs, it's likely we will see more ideological extremism and curtailing of liberties. Many modern Western terrorists are born in the country they attack. There's a reason these kids of immigrants who live a more comfortable life than their parents turn to extreme violence. Consumerism is not a self-sufficient story.
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>>2245129
Nigger, only slaves see others as 'managers'. You're either shilling for the jews, or you've got diabetes from kool-aid and there's no escape from paying the pharmaceutical/insurance industry for insulin to barely stay alive.
Kill yourself.
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>>2245158
>the face when I've already relocated to soft, cushy Washington state. The taxes are fucked, but the weed is the best you'll ever eat/drink/vape/smoke/inject/rub_on_skin. Welcome to your new life, anon.
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Listen, wagie. Can you stop making so much noise on your way to work? You sometimes wake me up, but even when if I'm already awake it's still annoying to have to listen to you raging in the morning. I understand that you're angry at your situation, but please have some consideration. Thank you, wagie.
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Wakie wakie ragie wagie. You better get up early so you can eat your breakfast and not starve half your workday, you have to stay healthy so you can help Mr Goldstein buy a new sailboat. Another day, another dollar.
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>>2245158

if you've been pulling 162k a year for a few years you can now afford to chill for a long time assuming you have an intelligent and frugal lifestyle. what's wrong with that. i'd be willing to become a drug-fueled wageslave for 162k
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>>2245361

same, but i'm a bit older. looking back uni was the biggest waste of time and money of my life, and i'd be waaay ahead if i had skipped it entirely. maybe something for you to consider. intelligent, driven, creative and tech-minded people can conquer the world from their moms basement in this day and age. fuck education on rails.
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>>2245418

let me tell you about the jews anon
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I applaud those of u that have made it and didn't even have to work a 9-5 ever, good for you kiddos, good for you, you are part of the new wave of the future
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>>2245421
> I think we will see a class of people living hand-to-mouth on whatever the government will give them, and they will always vote to get more.

Really doesn't make sense when you think about it.

>More and more people do not put up with it. They often end up on disability, on drugs. I see it everyday working in a property management company. Probably 60-70% or more of our units are rented to people on some form of support (ODSP, Ontario Works, etc). Most of them smoke, drink, and do drugs excessively. It's very sad to see an under-class grow and grow within your own city.

At the turn of the century, and until halfway about, the state paid for things called sanitariums which you could voluntarily be admitted to. They were largely self-contained. The hope was that people had an escape hatch they could go and somehow get well so they could rejoin society. Many did not of course, because psychological problems are real and prognoses are not really good for those kinds of problems.

Physical problems counted as wellas old age. Really, any kind of infirmity.

The Sanitariums had a small staff. Trusted residents fulfilled the different functions of the sanitarium. You could work as a janitor, a gardener, a handyman, a plumber, a cook, a launderer. Or, if you couldn't, you didn't have to.

Society viewed these places as a welcome burden compared to the alternative- which is what you see today.

Today, there is no where to go. So your "under-class" that "grows" in your city is really the flotsam which drifts from the periphery to the center. There is no social safety net now- and those earlier generations would be shocked to learn that we had become so callous- to treat people like they were disposable instead of treatable. They would be baffled- as to why we insisted they be forced to live in the streets and parks and underpasses and squats.

They would no doubt condemn us for these things.
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>>2245237
>Really ionizes my castor seeds

Eat them already.
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>>2246518
>Really doesn't make sense when you think about it.

How does it not make sense? I think its pretty obvious that people vote for their best interests. A population that subsists on government handouts will vote for whichever political party promises them more.

>There is no social safety net now

Asylums, and institutions have gone by the wayside, but they have been replaced by other means. There is a reason why many western nations are called "Welfare states" because they make people depend on the state for a greater and greater number of things from cradle to grave.
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>>2245393
>tfw have been working at least 25 hours since i was 16 so i could eat
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>>2246686
>How does it not make sense? I think its pretty obvious that people vote for their best interests.

The people you talk about dont vote, and when they do, they haven't gotten more or better services. You think you know what you're talking about but I read way more that you do. The hacks on your radio shows are liars and your perception is totally ignorant of the history of this country.

>Asylums, and institutions have gone by the wayside, but they have been replaced by other means.

Yeah, no. They've been replaced with prisons. The civic services don't cover it. The charity services don't even come close. The functions have not been "replaced".

>There is a reason why many western nations are called "Welfare states" because they make people depend on the state for a greater and greater number of things from cradle to grave.

My whole point is that you talk about the existence of a welfare state- I'm telling you- there is nothing but a mess of inefficient programs that cost us more than the old system it was supposed to replace.

Seriously, everything you know is wrong. I'd suggest reading up on the history. Plenty of material in the library. If you want to actually talk to some of these people (and be sure to ask who they voted for, ha-ha) go ahead and be on the streets downtown in the early morning as they will be as coherent as they'll get all day.
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>>2246686
>I think its pretty obvious that people vote for their best interests.

What a person believes and what they get are two different things. You haven't been around much, I can tell.

If you think the vote comes down to "what I want" and "what I don't want" all I can say is, you've never voted, or you have very simple mind that accepts whatever is placed in front of you is all there is.
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>>2247064
>>2247094
Nothing you say has any merit, sorry but you're argument is literally "listen kid I'm smarter than you and I'm right". Maybe you should read a book about how to form a proper argument?

You're not convincing in the least and pretending to be an erudite grandpa just doesn't cut it
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most people are dull conformists who easily accept authority

>talk to some normie about their job
>'oh, my boss bla bla bla'

the words 'my boss' are unacceptable for any non-cucked male to say. it's repulsive. you have a boss? fuck off, there are jobs and there are managers. you tolerate the managers, that's it. the point of saving money isn't to buy a lambo, it's to have a financial safety net so that at any point if the dumb cunt cuck manager at your job starts acting up you can tell them to get fucked. the savings allow you to live while you find a reasonable workplace with sane staff.

management is a meme. managers are the true cucks. managers are conformists who stick around and take enough shit so that one day the owners give them a sliver of responsibility. they have the burden & stress of steering the ship (in whatever limited capacity they've been granted) but receive none of the rewards. workers get low stress, low reward. owners get high stress, high reward. managers get high stress, low reward.
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>>2245142
That guy man, he's unqualified.
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Bottom left master race
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It ducking sucks that I probably can't move out into the wilderness and homestead (not that I have the skills to do so) because someone is going to eventually come down, say I don't have the required permits, and shut me down.

Then if have to move back to the city, where in order to survive I would need to rent a place and get a job which is what I was trying to avoid in the first place.
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>>2245575
Idk, man. I used to give out food at a gay park in the village during the winter and some of people lining up were missing limbs.
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>>2246518
We need an export coin, export these people to a third world country like... Belize.
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automation on the way
building work ethic isn't that bad, experience is a great teacher
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>>2245137
>Sure, you can break off and do your own thing like start a business or something but how many people are going to be successful doing so?

This.

Part of working for 40 hours a week for some boss is that there is security in doing so. You can't just be fired out of nowhere, if you are then you typically can collect unemployment insurance payouts for a bit.

It's why many people don't like investing their own money into a business they want to do, instead they look for an investor. It feels safer having someone else risk their assets rather than you doing so yourself.

It comes down to what money does a person have that allows them to safely attempt their own business or allow them to move onto another. Most people have almost no money to do that as studies keep on showing that most Americans couldn't even come up with $400 on the spot if required to.
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>>2245106
You must BECOME the faggot
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>>2245158
Is this a copypasta?
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>>2245076
Shitposting from a comfy teaching job, i'm "grading papers" right now.
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That's why I like working on a ship. Literally got half the year off with pay. Time and money I can use to start business
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>>2245100
This is a huge wisdom nugget in just a few words and I hope you faggots read it.

Seriously, this is the key. If you have no kids and thus are responsible only for yourself, you CAN be free. You CAN survive without wage slavery. I know, because I am-- I don't pay rent, I live an adventurous (albeit marginal) lifestyle, and others envy me my freedom.

The two things that will SHACKLE you to the furnaces of hell are
1. Kids
2. A mortgage

avoid those and you can be free, if you have the guts.
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>>2247167

hell yeah must be nice living in high school/off your parents/other people's money/homeless/etc.
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>>2249232
tell us more
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>>2245076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KW8hfO6ysM

Because the educational system is designed to break their spirits.
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>>2250090

Well it all depends on what you want out of life. If you are willing to abandon the validation of the system that controls almost all aspects of daily life (call it capitalism, but it is more than just that), then you can be very free... but it is not all upside.

You have to cultivate a powerful self-respect not to feel like a loser for lacking the bullshit trappings of middle-class "success" (mcmansion, babies, other garbage). If everyone around you and the people who you communicate with are all normies than you will just feel like a freak and a fuck-up.

So, in my opinion to be happy with your freedom you should find places where others are also free and cultivate community there. Or build community online (although I think in person is better). If you are totally rootless and a drifter, loneliness will destroy you sooner or later; loneliness is one of the worst things in the world.

The system is set up to isolate those who do not conform... and our fear of that isolation is powerful and controlling. So while it is crucial that you don't conform, it's as important that you don't let yourself be (or remain) isolated.

Freedom is in my experience (using the 2 examples above, for instance) much more about what you DON'T DO... Most freedom is gained through saying NO to things.
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>>2247140

I am an erudite person. I'm not pretending to be. You came on here, I gave you the answers. You came with your beliefs and assumptions, and I refuted them. Now you don't like it, and call me names like "grandpa". I've had at least twice the life experience by my best guess. I guarantee I've read far more books than you. Those books were prepared by experts in their fields, peer-reviewed. I'll bet you've never completed a college degree. You don't respect knowledge- when was the last time you set foot in a library? Of the media you consume, what fraction are prepared by people with PhDs or experts in their fields? What makes you think an anonymous message board is an effective forum for ignorant people to gain wisdom about complex topics?

Do your own homework- although you have a very low probability of doing anything but finding confirmation bias on the internet in between "managing properties" because you are intellectually lazy, incapable of logic, and too proud to admit you know nothing about anything.
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>>2249232
How do you avoid both rent and a Mortgage?
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>>2250717
this is a nice post

I often wondered why people around me won't buy crypto or even spend a few hours trying to understand it, and I realize you basically need to be a truly disagreeable autist with no regards for the opinions of others to actually risk money on this stuff and stand up all the criticisms
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>>2251092

RV living bro. Also good if you like a challenge for banging grills
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>>2247152

This sounds like someone who watched too much Office Space. Yeah, if you're the regional assistant manager of a company that makes crankshafts in a small town outside of Omaha, you're probably the kind of manager you're describing.

But it's the "workers" who get consistently fucked in most organizations by never having any freedom or control than what is dictated to them. I currently make six figures working for a Fortune 500 where my career has gone astronomically up. I'm 30 and I have unlimited paid vacation time. If I want to work from home, I've shown I can do it, and I've built a team that can handle some of the day-to-day so I'm there at the end if someone needs me to dictate strategy.

I'm not saying there's not stress, but it's 11 AM on a Thursday and I'm shitposting on 4chan drinking a beer while I wait for my dryer to get fixed, checking emails when they roll in.
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>>2246068
uni is definitely a waste. my brother got an apprenticeship in IT and now makes £45k at 22 years old and will soon own his own house. however i enjoy uni because i like to have a social life and get fucked up, i want to enjoy my youth before my life is sucked out of me. it is useless as fuck though. i go to half of my lectures and do all my studying on ritalin 3 days before my exams and still get a first.

but if you don't go to uni you need drive, like my brother did. he pushed himself ahead in his company.
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>>2246068
I am actually thinking of dropping out, I am in year two right now so it wouldn't be the wisest choice.

Only worries I have is that what if my online businesses fail and I don't get any more chances, I am good at online marketing and other shit but if that stuff dies then I am a jobless neet.

Uni is like a safety net for me.
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>>2251062
I think reddit is a better place for you, desu
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>>2245076
Most of the planet are poor fucks that toil much longer than that daily for less than $2/day.
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>>2251409
>I am actually thinking of dropping out, I am in year two right now so it wouldn't be the wisest choice.

Plenty of drop outs had good lives and wouldn't have been the same if they had your attitude. But you know you so you do you.

>>2251212
>uni is definitely a waste.

Heres someone else who shouldn't be in college

>i enjoy uni because i like to have a social life and get fucked up

You aren't getting anything out of it but forgettable experiences.

>i go to half of my lectures and do all my studying on ritalin 3 days before my exams and still get a first.

Heres your problem: no inspiration, no interest, no challenge. You can't get a social life or figure out how to get fucked up unless you are sitting through the "uni experience"? Hope you aren't taking on debt.

>i want to enjoy my youth before my life is sucked out of me. it is useless as fuck though.

This here is what we call a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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>>2245076
brain washing man, everyones comfortable. brains are off and people are just robots. also did you know 40% of americas population doesnt work? they either cant or wont, of that percentage 25% of that is people below the age of 30 and the remainder over 30 to retirement.

school prepares you for life, they make you educated enough to stand in a line in a factory to produce goodes, you know, so you understand gravity and etc, how to talk properly and write information and count numbers. the rest is repression and beating you into a routine.

then cellphones were designed to destroy relationships with people, same as computer websites. these are made to make people feel connected and united when they arent which is why the government has such a greater upper hand than everyone else.
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>>2245076
I went to college for 1.5 years on a 2 year wrestling scholarship. My pops said go and have fun. Drop out whenever because I was always a better worker than student. I had the time of my life, dropped out. Got a fun job in entertainment business. Work hard but get unbelievable perks. Wife doesn't have to work. Own my own home. If I didn't work I would be miserable. Its healthy to work. hodl crypto to make side money and maybe retire in a few years as opposed to 30 lol. Please clap
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OP lives with his mom. She prolly pays his cell phone bill too so that he can use his mobile to trade his allowance for cryptos.
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>>2245421
Did you study Psychology in university by any chance? Because that's a scientifically proven answer
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>>2245076
because I have to.

My family is fucking mental. I also don't work for me, I work for the future of me and one day hopefully my kids.
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>>2246027
>>the face when

Newfag detected
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If you don't like it, practice Eutelegenisis, so your offspring will be much smarter and probably more successful and wealthy, so they can play all day, while everyone else works like a slave. Intelligence is escape route for the 9-5 grind.
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>>2251178
What was your major?
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>>2253719
I wish
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>9 to 5

That was like 30 years ago

Everyone now works 8:30 to 5 at least
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>>2245076
>Explain to me how billions of people across the world put up with working a 9 to 5 or working for a boss?
They're cucks.
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>>2254048
>want to work 9-5
>boss wants me in at 6pm
fuck i hate boomers
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>>2251062
For someone so smart you make a lot of baseless assumptions. Killyourself.
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>>2245076

I like my job, OP. It's interesting and I'm good at it.

In my experience the people who don't get the concept of full-time work are the people who have never worked full-time.

Of course there are plenty of people who hate their job but at the end of the day you have to realize that resources aren't free and no one is going to provide for you just to sit around and be unproductive.

If you produce enough value to only need to work intermittently then good for you but the vast majority of people are going to have to put in the hours. If you were a hunter-gatherer you'd be working hard to kill a woolly mammoth and drag it back to your cave, you aren't some special snowflake who gets a pass on providing for yourself.
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>>2245076

cause most people are cucks
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>>2245076
i know right?
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>>2254192
>if you don't understand it then you haven't experienced it

So, you know nothing about working a shit job where you have put up with stupid shit that you've told people time and time again not to do but it happens anyways and having to bust your ass for people who get paid more than you because you actually like your job?

Comparing hunting and gathering to sitting in an office all day is fucking retarded
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>>2254192
hunter gatherers worked an estimated 12-19 hours a week, buddy
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>>2254242

>So, you know nothing about working a shit job where you have put up with stupid shit that you've told people time and time again not to do but it happens anyways and having to bust your ass for people who get paid more than you because you actually like your job?

I haven't been in my current career forever, anon.

>Comparing hunting and gathering to sitting in an office all day is fucking retarded

You have to pull your weight one way or another. I should not be having to tell /biz/ this. Back in the day you would be directly producing the goods that you and your dependents needed to survive. Today you're part of a large exchange of goods and services.

Does it suck? Sure, why not. Wouldn't it be awesome if we had magic replicators that made everything everyone needed to live just like all the automationfags over on /pol/ jack off to? Of course it would be.

But we don't, and resources aren't free, so one way or another you have to work to survive. If the idea of wage-slavery is just too much for you recall that even minimum-wage worker drones have a higher standard of living than 99.99999-whatever percent of humans who have ever lived and for that matter most humans living today.

>>2254351

>hunter gatherers worked an estimated 12-19 hours a week, buddy

They also lived in cold-ass caves or huts or whatever with literally none of the modern conveniences you have. I'd wager most people here could live like a caveman on much less than 12 to 19 hours of their wages, if they cared to.
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>>2245237

>tfw I make 25k a year

>>2245240

I would take your job. I hate being in the same place all the time and am minimalist anyway. Seriously, rec me. I need some six fig dosh.

I can't even get a fucking job to begin with, that's why I'm in a shit tier slave gig. Degree, just no bites on any of my aps. I fucked up my one and only chance because I fell for the "do what you love" meme and rejected a "boring" job. It would have been fucking perfect for a 2-3 year stint, then I could have paid off my student loans and taken a mini retirement between jobs. But nooooooooooo.

Only benefit to a shitty job is that they're plentiful and easy to get.

>>2249232

Dodging both of those bullets.

>>2251092

I live in a van. Hey, it works. I may make poverty wage, but my living expenses are 6-8k a year total, so I get to keep 15k+ shekels for myself. Not really, because loans, but in theory. Please blow my brains out for falling for the college meme. Well if I put half of that to the loans and half to investment I'm doing better than the average normie.
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>>2254065
*am
fuck boomers
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>>2245158
I was in derivatives. Quit a couple years ago with nothing lined up. Best decision I ever made. I would've stepped in front of a bus by now I reckon.

>>2245086
It's true, most cubical monkeys are medded up.
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>>2245076

You know what to do, comrade.
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All the people who got anywhere trying to 'give this shit a makeover' were silenced, imprisoned or killed, their organizations infiltrated and subverted.
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>>2245106
If no one worked, how would you buy shit at the store or buy anything that required employees to service you?
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>>2245076
Read Nietzsche.

Most people are born slaves and followers. If you asked an average person if he'd take a safe 60k a year job or take a risk at making 500k a year most will take the 60k job.

People do not like to take risks. They are super irrational about it. Anything that is risky = bad for the average normie.
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>>2251100
Yes that counts for the average guy. Someone lurking /biz/ all day reading shill threads would need to be a disagreeable autist to ignore crypto.
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Read Rich dad Poor dad.
Robert Wasabi is a meme lord but the mindset is legit.
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Lazies who don't look for alternative income.
>"how do i get money"
>"get a job"
>"k"
>wagecucked for life
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>>2245106
you get to go home to your family at 5 oclock and you don't have to think about work
that faggot always has to have it on his mind. His stress is permanent
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>>2253777
Shut the fuck up dude. If you're a dumbfuck, your kids are going to be dumbfucks, amd the vicious cycle continues.

No working class person should reproduce.
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Some people relish in it. They always complain about hating their job, but in reality they're experiencing a kind of Stockholm syndrome. Otherwise, they'd be actively trying to escape that lifestyle (which generally they're not)
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I DJ and trade crypto for money..

I go to work everyday for insurance benefits for me and my daughter, as well as to help my community..

I'm a special ed teacher when I'm not touring. It is a nice, meaningful supplemental income and I'm off everyday at 3.
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Because the human being does not need to be rich, or free, or happy, or even loved to survive

he only needs to be fed and sheltered from harm

once a man has met his essential needs he simply sleep walks through life, casually and lazily brushing with more intellectual and spiritual idea's, but they mostly escape him.

So many complain about life but for the most part the masses are happy. if there was really a problem they would do something about their supposed low quality of life.
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Develope your own business. I have 35+ potential business ideas for you to try. They will be listed on ideas500k.com
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>>2245305

This. On 150k a year you could retire in 5 years.
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>>2245086
Everyone i know doing 10-12 hour shift work spends a large portion of their paychecks on tobacco, alcohol and pain killers.

Some regularly turn up drunk at 7am. If that is you, just quit, you are ruining your life and the lives of everyone around you.

>>2245129
>management
>smart
sadly most are fucking dumb-asses without a clue what goes on on the shop floor but have the ability to twist words like a snake.
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I'll give you all a little secret: Wageslavery itself is not the true culprit. It's government.

The Government and the Elites/Jews that run the Federal Reserve are the ones to blame, they are the ones that take 35 - 40% of a young man's paycheck and throw that money into a black hole. They are the ones that devalue money through fraudulent means. Costs go up every single fucking year, EVERY SINGLE YEAR, while wages stay the same.

It's a quality of life issue and the fact of the matter is that people work too much, at least here in America. With the technology we have now, people should be working 3 days a week. The culture of being locked into a 5 day work week, working your butt off for $50, $60k a year which is the average salary is absurd when you factor in the cost of living for so many areas of the USA.

It's the same deal for Europe, look at the taxes, its absurd how much we pay and for what? What do we REALLY get in return? Practically nothing.

Human beings do not need government. Government = govern = control. Ment = mind. Government is mind control. Cast away government. It's all about CONTROL and keeping people working to put food on the table and extracting your energy so you have none at the end of the week to do nothing else but drink and fuck.
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If humanity did away with government we would see an immediate quality of life increase. We would be entitled to owning everything we make. We would actually ave incentive to start taking care of our communities and banding together without middlemen. Connecting to one another.

We wouldnt have fucks like the Federal Reserve printing money out of thin air and literally paying themselves off the books. It's thievery. We wouldn't have to send children to government run schools for brainwashing.

The list goes on and on. The government system has become wholly parasitic and we have the technology now to do away with it entirely.

I could imagine a government-like system run on the Blockchain. It wouldnt be that hard to make either.
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It is too hard to start a business by yourself and you seldom find someone capable and trustworthy enough who is also willing to risk to make a new business.

When you depend on paychecks to pay for the next month bills, wageslaving seems to be reasonable.
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>>2245158
>I take amphetamines in the morning in order to function and then sleeping pills, alcohol, and the occasional marijuana if I'm in Cali Colorado or Washington.

Thats harsh man, hope you find something better and reduce your stress levels so you dont have to rely on that shit.
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>>2257727
>Ment = mind
Blew my ment. So that is where "mental" comes from.
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>>2245076
OP, yes wageslavery sucks, many aspects of it are leftovers from a past time. However:
1. no modern society has implemented a better way to function yet. The current system brings benefits on top of the drawbacks. It is the safest way to enjoy the fruits of civilization. For a few million people it is quite a good deal
2. a large portion of the population from LA to Budapest to Tokyo is conditioned to view it as the only viable way to make ends meet
3. some people and even whole cultures genuinely enjoy it, since many salaried jobs leave enough time for hobbies and family
4. for every American, Malaysian, Romanian who monetizes online scams there are ten more who fail at it. The world needs energy, food, maintenance to function, and only so many people can strike luck without providing real value for these goals. I have read estimates that the world needs at least 300 million educated people, in cooperation to maintain our current technological state
5. robotics & automation can alleviate some of the pains of wageslavery but they can also create a more despotic, less mobile society - no guarantees what happens
6. finally, as you mature, you can become more resilient mentally or stop viewing jobs as an issue

What baffles me is that so many people do not even try to leave the 9 to 5, because "they will get bored". A matter of individuality I guess. Most people will fail, but just try damn it!

I fully support not taking credits for bullish you don't need. That is a vital step for financial independence.

PS: Not wanting at least one kid is damn unnatural. Few adults right in the head can give this advice seriously. Then again, I am on 4chan/biz/, which attracts a certain demographic - not necessarily a good one :)
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Fuck wageslaving and fuck normies in this thread. If you are a normie you will never understand what kind of torture a job is. This is the crypto board, not your fucking psychiatry-approved playground.
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>>2245076
They do it because they have to, to pay for a lifestyle that is waaaay inflated over what historically speaking suffices. Look up financial independence retire early (FI/RE). Theres a bunch of blogs out there and a reddit page where people wake up to the unnecessary aspect of their expenses and through saving 50%+ of their salaries, escape the 9-5 life in their 30s.
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>>2246518

What are you on? 100 years ago gibs didnt even exist. Now you just have to show you aren't white to get free money.
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I'm currently wagecucking myself and saving money ot eventually open my own business without doing it on credit cards.
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>>2262234

For me wagecucking is the only way I see out of wagecucking. I live like a monk and save 40% of my salary.
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>>2262262
Pretty much. Pay my rent. Pay my basic bills. Eat a lot of rice, lentils, and beans. Once I have enough saved I want to open a small business, ideally an Aquarium shop because I'm very passionate about fish keeping. I just want to do it all with cash so I don't end up in debt if it fails.
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