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Hello /biz/. I have just received an e-mail that I will be having a "First Quarter Performance Review."
I am terrified I could be fired.

Here is some background: I am a full-time intern who is not in school and my internship had no specified end date (started in January) so I simply never left. I have been meaning to ask if I could be registered as a "regular employee" but he said I should wait a month or two to make sure I like it here first. That was 4 months ago now. The only other intern, a part-time student, was hired but I never said anything.

The work is consulting, so I am supposed to track hours worked for different companies. Unfortunately, I have not gotten many hours because I don't get many assignments. The way my office is structured, I am essentially seated in the corner of my department and have spoken to my boss maybe 3 times since starting since he is always in Chicago and I am seated far away. All I ever get to do is help other workers in the office, never any word from the boss himself. I don't get much work at all as a result, so I spend a lot of time on /biz/ at work and trade crypto in my spare time, which is most of it. I am always asking coworkers if I can help with things though but they rarely have work for me. However, I did design something my first week, a small but useful VBA macro, that is being used by my department now.

Am I fucked? Am I going to be fired? Is it normal to have a "first quarter performance review" out of nowhere? I am terrified. I love working here and I can bring a list of my accomplishments if it helps.

Please give me any advice.
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>spend a lot of time on /biz/ at work and trade crypto

lel
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>>2048385
Well I've nothing else to do.

Any advice?
Is this a bad sign or is this a normal thing?
I'm not sure how to take this.
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>>2048368
they dont like you so they dont assign work to you so that they can hit you with a performance review to fire you because they dont want to get sued.

cant fire you if you do work. and you cant do work if you don't get work. they probably just fucked up in hiring you dont take it so personally
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>>2048368
it's nothing important and even if you get fired, you said it's no big deal. Chill out, update your resume and go job searching on Monster in case SHTF.
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>>2048416
Well the other people here do seem to kind of like me though. And I do get some work, maybe an hour or so per day. It's not exactly nothing, it's just that I could handle more.

>>2048424
It is a huge deal to me though. I live here now with my wife and we were getting very settled in the area. Also I love working here and to be honest I might not have been fully qualified for the job so I'm extremely grateful for it and working hard.

Is a "First Quarter Performance Review" normal or not?
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>>2048424
Does it sound like it's a manager's light way of pulling me in to let me off the hook or does it sound like just a normal review?

Do managers just call "First Quarter Performance Review" out of nowhere to fire someone?
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Help please. Does anyone here know what this could mean?

I can answer any more questions about it.
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Surely someone knows about this.
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>>2048748
>>2048511
>>2048439
have you tried talking to your manager about it you AUTISTCIT FUCK
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>>2048810
He's never here, he's always in a different office in a different city except for like 1 day a week.

I just randomly got this notification on my calendar saying I had this review coming up today. So the review will be later this week.
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>>2048368
>I am a full-time intern who is not in school and my internship has no specified end date
This has got to be bait
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>>2048846
I swear to god this is not bait at all.

Why do you say that? What's unusual?
I'm kind of panicking here and I'm not all too sure why. Am I really likely to be let go here or should I just try to calm down?
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>>2048434
>Is a "First Quarter Performance Review" normal or not?
Yes, what's not normal is shitposting on /biz/ most of the time while you're at work and hardly ever getting work assignments. So you're not fucked without a doubt but there's definitely reason to worry.
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>>2048846
My hiring letter said I was an intern but my first month I was in the record books as a full-time, regular employee. I also get all the regular benefits and everything like health care, 401k, etc., but I'm paid by the hour. The manager said he'd be opened to putting me on salary the one time I spoke to him a few weeks after starting. But nothing ever happened and a few weeks later I saw my position had been corrected back to "Intern." Since then, however, I had shown him something very good that I did, which he told me to inform him if I successfully completed, and he said it was great and he'd look into upping my pay as per usual. That was about 2 weeks ago. Then I got this email.
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>>2048870
When I ask the other employees if this is normal, they say that if something comes up I can help with they will definitely let me know. They say that they remember not having much work either for the first few weeks and to "just enjoy it while it lasts." I think I get along well with the other employees and the boss is simply never around so I don't know what to make of it.
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>>2048874
Well if you get along with your coworkers and don't think they're just bullshitting you then you probably shouldn't be panicking. Question about your /biz/ browsing and crypto trading, is this on the work computer or is it on your phone?
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>>2048908
Work computer.

I know that's kind of stupid but I don't know, I never got in trouble for it and just kept on doing it. If someone else comes by, I just switch to an excel worksheet or email or something.

Plus I work in consulting and deal with finance all day so I didn't think it'd be the end of the world if someone saw me looking at what appear to be stock charts. Plus I'm supposed to be learning about finance and studying corporate books while I'm here. Saying that I'm asking for help occasionally on /biz/ didn't seem like too much of a stretch so I didn't think it mattered much.
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>>2048908
Everyone here seems to assume everyone else is very busy. From anyone's perspective, I think, I just appear to be typing all day. And when anyone walks by I have an Excel sheet open or something.

But I'm in the corner so nobody really passes me from my department at least.
In reality I'm typing on /biz/ but people just assume other people are busy here, I think.
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>>2048930
The issue isn't the crypto, its the 4chan browsing. You might be fine here, as if your coworkers are telling you the truth then I'm sure that they also surfed the internet a lot too. The problem is that for most of them this was likely far more normalfag friendly sites. 4chan is blocked by most monitoring software that companies use for the ones that do, with the classification reason being porn. Couple that with the racist associations that many normalfags see and this could easily be trouble. All depends on your manager's personal views really.
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>>2048828
Can you see when the notice for the appointment was sent out?

If it's recent, it's more likely you're in trouble, but still not necessarily a red flag. As others said, get your ducks in a row, but don't shit your pants just yet. Most firms do a "90 day" review (can be anywhere between 2 and 6 months), so the timing isn't particularly off.
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>>2048997
I'm the OP.
I'm now at home instead of work but I'm the same person.

>>2048957
I don't know. I accidentally clicked on /b/ once and it said the site was blocked by the company. So that was a mistake, not doing that again. But here? I don't know.

I know 4chan is kind of bad but the fact is, well, one day I had my personal computer on the company wifi and I was told by IT that a virus had gotten through to the company network. The boss then sent out an email not to me in particular but to the whole office just saying "Reminder not to use your personal computers on the [company] wifi." So after that, I never did that again, but simply started browsing /biz/ at work. And I avoid any images or anything that could be seen as bad, etc.

I know the computer uses monitoring software because it said /b/ was off-limits when I accidentally clicked on it once, panicked, and exited the browser. But /pol/, /biz/ are not blocked, it seems.

Nothing ever happened and nobody said anything to me so I just kept on doing it and asking people for more work every day or 2. They always respond with "Thanks I'll keep you in mind if something comes up but I'm good right now." And sometimes I get something.

>>2048997
The notice for the appointment? It was sent out today via e-mail. I just got the e-mail asking me to confirm the time for later this week so I did and it was labeled as a "First Quarter Review."

What else should I look for?
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Am I going to be fired?
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>>2049181
yes
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>>2049181
>Am I going to be fired?

None of us knows.

It's perfectly ordinary to get a periodic performance review.

It's not so ordinary to spend so much of your time fucking off.

If I were you, I'd step up my efforts to get assignments and do them well. Be politely assertive when trying to get work assigned to you.

In the meantime, stop fucking off.
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>>2048368
>>2049181
Hey, it's your boss here, don't come in to work tomorrow. You're fired.
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>>2049700
dubs decide
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What is the next memecoin?
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>>2049755
fucking autism
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>>2049755
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>>2048957

This. I'd fire anybody browsing 4chan at work, be it on their work computer or on their phone.

The beneficial shit here can be found elsewhere and 4chan comes with a whole lot of shit that can only be trouble. Shows a major lack of judgement being here on company time.

OP is gonna be fired most likely.
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>>2048368
LOL
Is this how wageslaves live?

I'd rather invest in my coins
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>>2049765
buy AutistBucks (ATSB) today!
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>>2049817
I invest my salary in coins and day-trade while at work. That might be where I messed up.

>>2049794
I really do hope not.
Would my IT department actually share this with the boss after working there for 4 months?

>>2049691
I am but it's hard because literally everyone is an employee and the boss is never here. It's supposed to be all kind of self-managed and that's how consulting works. The only thing they see is the number of billable hours I get at the end of each month, and if I'm not getting enough assignments my number of billable hours looks small. I still get paid full time but my billable hours is low, so it costs the company money and that's worse.

I will stop fucking off from now until the meeting though at the very least.
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>>2049986
In a big corporation? IT is so dysfunctional that they probably don't even keep logs. At best shits printed somewhere and gets hauled off to storage, and if for any reason they'll need to go through the logs, it won't be for you going on 4chins or even watching porn at work, it'd be for serious shit like getting hacked. Don't even think about voluntarily bringing it up, wageslave.
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Well you will definitely find out tomorrow. And /biz/ cant tell the future.....if they could they would be here they would be doing hookers and blow in their lambos
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>>2050060
Well the company has over 5000 employees so I think that's a "mid-sized" corporation.

I wouldn't bring it up.

It's just that one time a virus got out from my pesonal computer onto the company wifi and was swiftly dealt with, as I explained here: >>2049117
And I've never connected my personal computer to the company wifi since then.

I'm scared because I'm technically just an intern. But I work 40 hours a week and the boss has never said anything bad to me, so he treats me like a regular employee. The only thing that's different is that I'm paid hourly, but other than that it's exactly the same. So I don't know what to think.

I'm in such a shitty position because I'm a full time intern with no end date and I'm not a student, yet somehow I'm not considered full time? What the hell am I? Half the people I ask there say I'm an intern and the other half say I'm just a regular employee. The boss doesn't seem to say anything.

>>2050076
Fuck I'm just nervous. Losing this job would be terrible for me. My wife and I are just getting settled here and it's taken us so long to move in and for me to get to know the company and get good at the little work I do and everything.
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>>2050083
just calm down man- perhaps if everything goes right (hopefully it does) you can just try to become a very useful employee which will probably make it harder for them to fire you if they ever thought about it
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>>2050060
This is probably true unless you work in a highly regulated industry (finance, for example).

You said you work for consultants so I doubt they really track what you do as anything other than a back room hobby, and support staff/cost centers for a medium to large organization rarely if ever come into contact with earners/revenue centers. If you work for a small company, they probably outsource their proxy filtering and it's doubtful they bother to report or review at all unless the vendor contacts them about concerns/issues.
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>>2050112
Ok I'll try. I'm just going to write down a list of accomplishments I've made for the company since I started and bring it in with me just in case it should come up.

>>2050125
I see. I really hope that's not the case.

I guess I really can't know.

At least it doesn't seem like everyone thinks "performance review" immediately means I'm about to be fired.
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>>2048368

Alright, it does not seem to me like a nice position to be in but I think it's actually good you have this performance review. `

The fact that you have no specific position or work to do is very worrying but it really depends on the size of the company. In huge companies, it's not rare for someone to have literally nothing to do for months. In smaller companies though if you're redundant and have no permanent contract, you're out.

Why haven't you said anything to anyone ? Do you have any specific ambitions in this company ? A post you would like to be at, a job you're qualified for ?

At some point they should ask you about if you like you current position and what you want in the future. This is your opportunity to say you love the company but feel like you're not being exploited at your full potential. Try to make them see what you can do for them, you know the company well by know, you should have something to talk about.

Be prepared of course to talk about what you "accomplished" over there but don't forget that they won't keep you to jerk around on biz/ forever
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You wont get fired relax
They spent too much on you to just fire you afterwards
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>>2050161
keep us posted OP. We answered your questions and put up with your autism so don't leave us hanging.
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>>2051797
This if this thread gets deleted post an update
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>>2051797
>>2051801
Ok I will do that.
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>>2051491
>Why haven't you said anything to anyone?
I have. They said "ask around. Ask people if they need help." So I did that. I even told the boss once "Hi I completed X today so I've got some time now. If you've got a project I can help with, please let me know and I'd be happy to do it." And he said ok but then nothing ever happened.
>Do you have specific ambitions within the company?
It's all based on certifications I'm studying to get, independent of the company.

Alright thanks.
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performance reviews are generally annual and/or mid-year for full time employees.

quarterly reviews might be normal. but I am not familiar with consulting companies, maybe they have tighter leashes.

long story short assume you need to find a new job, learn from your mistakes and be more assertive with the next one. the weak either get eaten or stagnate in the real world.
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>>2049117
i can teach you how to become a admin on any pc with windows without knowing anything and install vpn so no one can watch you
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>>2052149
>install vpn

Any half-way good IT department will notice and ask you why the fuck are you running stuff through a private VPN. Although they won't be able to see what you're doing, it's still suspicious and probably prohibited in itself.
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>>2048439
You are having a 1qtr performance review because it is the end of the 1st quarter. It's normal. If you don't have much to do, start making shit that will bring value to you. Figure out solutions to problems. Organize or create a knowlegebase. Write/Edit more documentation. There is always stuff to do, just do stuff that shows you benefit your company and team.
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>>2048871
You do not want to go on salary, it literally does not benefit you at all.
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>>2053290
Wait, how did you know this? I actually kind of knew this already because right now I charge for overtime out the ass, which is paid 1.5x regular hour pay, so I'm making almost 1.5 times what I should be. But no bonus. With salary, I think I get no overtime at all, but I get the bonus.

You're right though, that does not benefit me in the slightest I think.

How did you know that though?
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>>2053299
Because I have been working for a long time, and you don't get overtime. The whole reason salary exists, is so they don't have to pay you overtime. If they don't have to pay you overtime, your workload skyrockets and you don't see extra dimes. Being paid by the hour limits your work-week to about 40 hours.
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>>2053286
I asked the secretary and she said nobody is else is having a review.

This is bad. But she said it's fairly normal for a new employee to have a review after the first quarter, so I'm not in trouble probably, at least according to her.

She said the last intern to get reviewed got hired though, so there's hope that's all this is.

Anyway
>There's always something to do
Literally what is there to do? What documentation? This isn't IT. We use Excel and pretty much just Excel. I could open up Excel files and look at client information, look at some test sheets showing what happens in various financial scenarios, and that's about it.

What am I supposed to do with any of that?
>Look at what other people are doing
They're being given new, quarterly client information by the boss via email, then running the same tests as before on the new client information and then spitting that data back out.

How can I do anything with this?
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>>2053316
I see. Right now I am charging an average 46 hours per week just because nobody said I couldn't and nobody has said anything about, just given me the extra money for it and the last 6 hours over 40 are paid at the rate of my salary times 1.5.

However, I don't get the quarterly bonuses, and given that we're an employee-owned company, that bonus can be really nice. But as it is I think my overtime is the same or more.

It might be inevitable that they move me to salary anyway, if I'm not fired, but thank you I'll remember not to explicitly ask for it.
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>>2053317
You could just practice doing your job with fake numbers and such, you will be able to say, I didn't have enough work so I was practicing. Anyway, it shows initiative and that you are putting in an effort. Nobody is going to get on your case about that. If you can't do real work, do practice work. It is still work.
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>>2053338
I see. Given that the nature of the job requires me to study a lot and I get paid every time I pass exams, I have been doing that a lot. And when asked, I just say that I'm always "helping the other employees with excel projects, reviewing previous work, and studying for the upcoming exams."

This is great but the only downside is that I have to log hours for everything I do because they have to bill each client company individually, and when my "client billable hours" are much lower than my "total hours worked", it's not good, and since the manager is never really around that's kind of all he sees of me.

But I will keep your advice in mind in case anyone asks.
Thank you.
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>>2053317
>I asked the secretary and she said nobody is else is having a review.
Could be bad. But at the same time, you started in January right? Which means you're at approximately 90 days of working. It's extremely common to do a 90 day review of employees to ensure placement and culture fit is appropriate.

That doesn't mean you're losing your job, but it does mean that you may need to be prepared to talk about your work thus far and if you'd like to change anything.

If they fire you, it's unlikely you'll get to that part, but at the same time, if they don't you'll want to be prepared and come with thoughts on what/how you'd like to contribute.

Good luck
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>>2053365
Relax. Nobody expects you to hit billables on day 1 when you have no experience in the industry and will need to be trained into your position.

If they're helping you pay for certs then you have nothing to worry about; they're not going to fire you unless you don't pass, or unless they're really, really in financial trouble, in which case you won't want to be there anyway.
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>>2048399
maybe it depends on the job, i don't know. at my current work, that would never fly. i couldn't even get away with something like that.

i guess my advice is not to browse a japanese cartoon porn shitposting forum on your employers' computers.
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>>2053406
Well I just bill the company hours based on how much time I spend on their projects, even if its just skimming over a worksheet, because I'm in a corner and nobody can see me or what I do at all, it seems.

I didn't really get any training either, but along the way of doing little tasks for people I picked up a little bit about how to read the Excel sheets and what certain things mean. But no real training.

I guess I'm just glad I passed one of my exams last month then. That'll give me some confidence because the exam was very difficult. Thanks.

>>2053394
Yes started in January.
I see, I will include that in the notes I take into the meeting. Thanks.
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