What does /biz/ study?

>>1952983
MD really doesn't have that much growth potential and certainly, certainly will not make you 250k write off the start
Also: Econ and Finance PhDs earn the same on average

Started at $65K my first year as an RD in the hospital and got bumped to $72K beginning of my second year and took over as the lead clinical RD in the hospital while the other RD moved to Director. Still more growth to be had at this rate!

Six degrees are most likely, at the bachelor's level, to take you to six figures more than the others. One of them is international relations. You have it in worthless tier.

These are always based on people's biases rather than any study based on factual evidence. Why do people keep churning this shit out?

I'm thinking about psychiatry but I might do er not sure

>>1952983
>CS
>starting salary 40-65k

wut

Tax Law, just cut my life into pieces.

>>1953007

Psychiatry means medical degree and at least a masters in psychology.

>>1952989
Yeah i dont think the picrelated is very accurate either, but it's somewhar accurate.

>>1953003
As i said, this is not my image, but actually i've been considering studying international relations as a postgraduate for quite some time. Is it really that profitable to do so?

Comp. sci. here, started $80k. The only thing holding people back from a cushy starting salary is shit negotiating and social skills.

>>1953015

Everyone who studied international relations with me falls into one of two categories today: they either went onward into influential positions in some form of politics, behind the scenes or overt, or they had rich parents and work for charity to alleviate their white upper-middle class guilt.

Look: It doesn't really matter what you're studying, the only relevant thing is the rank of your university
Think: Top10 or tra$h

>>1953010
yes, that's mid level COL region

>>1953019
this is likely east/west coast, high COL region

>>1952983
I'm a Political Science major hoping to go to law school. But have considered cucking out and just studying accounting.

How fucked am I if I stick with Political Science?

I got my degree in mathematics. Became an actuary, still making my starting salary of 75k.

>>1952983
Chemical engineer here, still trying to find a full time job because australias job market is oversaturated as fuck

>>1953014
I take the mcat this August. I imagined you just did some sort of residency program in psychiatric medicine

>>1953011
Don't get me wrong the pay is like 4k a month for people who just graduated, but the work is pure cancer.

>>1953029

Wrong. Midwest, low COL area. Not Chicago-area or Minneapolis.

>>1953048
there's something you aren't telling us then, it takes more than negotiating skills to get a starting salary like that. don't try to pass it off as normal.

how brod is physics

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I wanna study agricultrual economics, do you think its a good choice `?

And how hard is it to establish my own Agricultural biz, sb with exp here ?

I'm studying accounting... graduating in a semester (Dec 2017)
My classes are full of beta males, but I aint one. I'm a fucking champ. My gpa is shit (2.3) but I've been able to secure a financial analyst position at a research company (will be forecasting projects and working on RFP/Q's). I was able to get it purely through networking.

Seriously though, even the big 4 people I've had lunch with are a bunch of pricks. Think they're incredible. I remember some of my graduate assistants that were getting their MAC and had offers from EY or Deloitte and were starting 70k after graduating... two years later they're working as a desk accountant for a local company. Most the people in my class haven't worked a day in their lives and can't talk to normal people. I always felt like most of the accounting students around me are nerds who are too dumb to be engineers.

My rants over

>>1953192
If you enjoy ag people then fucking do it. I know a couple guys who ended up working for either gov't with subsidizing crops and shit or farmer's mortgage companies. It seems like once you build a book of business it wouldn't be too hard but probably looking at 5-10yr of working for someone else first.

Honestly though, seems like you can help some of the farmers. I know in my state there's a lot of poor farmers so able to do some good work.

>>1953028
That's such shit man, such shit. You can be successful without a top 10 school. You are just looking for an excuse for your own shitty life and it must be "oh because I didn't go to a top 10 school!" no its because you make excuses like a bitch.

>>1952983

>Going to school

I didnt go to college and I made 600k last year. Think of a business or do it, or do what I did and look at a niche where someone is making bank with a sub par product, make a better one. Marketing it is the most important.

The only thing you should go to school for is certifications and liscencing IE: lawyer, doctor, cpa , realtor. Things you have to have degrees for in order to operate legally.

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>>1953208
sure, bub - you're the big exception and you're gonna make it big time :^)

>>1953168

No. You don't understand the state of the software industry. If you get a comp. sci. degree from anywhere that isn't a dump with decent grades, you can command that type of salary. I went to a state school ffs. The issue is literally that interviewees are shit negotiaters.

I'm thinking I might one day go back to college just for fun with all my money and study something like art just for kicks while I already have a nice comfy job, plenty of savings and investments, and just want to pick up a new hobby or something.

>>1953227
No faggot, what's success? I doubt anyone on here will ever be a millionaire... hell probably not going to make over $200k

$100k a year is pretty successful though and there's plenty of people doing it without a top 10 degree. Some faggot who saves dumbass troll pics won't though because he's a fucking wimp. You have really pissed me off with how much of a bitch you are.

I go to a non top 10 school and call alumni asking for money. I call CEO's, VP's of banks (literally called a VP of Goldman Sach's last night, dude got his PhD and Masters here, undergrad in China)

How can you say they're not successful?

>>1953201
thx man, i am in my finals at this time and I was actually pretty sure to work in this subject, but i got a bit scared of gaining knowledge in a subject its hard to open a biz.

Some Ideas what i could get into ? and what are you doing for a living ?

>>1953258
I'm a student but work in my university's call center (asking alumni for money). We are a big ag school and put out ag economists too so I've spoken to a few who are doing just fine. They have a passion for the work and the people they work with normally. If your school has an ag econ program I'd suggest talking to the head of it to see. I know the people I've spoken with mainly started out working for the gov't dept of agriculture or for like a farmer's credit union.

>>1953201
Oh and Its my absolute dream to live in the USA. hows the chance for a greencard if i end with a bachelor in Agrieconmics

>>1953272
Where are you from?

>>1953270
wich country you are actually from ?

Germany>>1953273
Bavaria

>>1953028
Absolute load of shit for 99% of careers and even then becomes even more irrelevant the longer you work. The main benefit for those schools is the quality of networking.

>>1953279
So I'm from the US. The south to be more specific.
I don't know much about greencards but I think best course would be to get into a Master's program here in ag econ and then go to career fairs and talk to people to get a job and visa.

I'd do some googling research

>>1953291
My fucking man!

>>1952983
What can you do with an Econ PhD?

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>>1953292
Oh man thank you,here in Germany the Agribiz seems to have hard times and it could be in the next election there will be a gov with the red-red-green coalition, and expecially the greenparty will high regulate the Agribiz, so i am scared of this change.

Would love to live in the southern states :) but also like the rocky mountain states like idaho and utah. Wich state you are from ?

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Civ engineering here.
Most eng degrees have some sort of finance intergrated in them nowadays which'll hopefully come in handy later. Engineering usually starts off w an alright salary (especially civ) but caps pretty low, 90k+ where I live if your very very lucky but taxes will take 52% of that :^)

Kinda wish I did mechanical instead but depending on where you live the demand and salaries do not differ much from each other, main difference being mecheng being harder than civ.

Hopefully I can invest the salary made in stocks on the side and make some extra income but hey, easier said than done...

>>1953304
North Carolina... it is hot and black. A lot of the whites around here though would enjoy a german though, most of us are part my uhh granpa's parents were from Bavaria

>>1953311
:P i am actually Thai-German

We only have turks here, some are nice but their is also kind of parrallel society.
Hows it with the blacks ?

>>1953325
They're either bro teir or bad. I have always had black friends but some are too caught up into the being black scene. A lot are thugs and bad people but there's bad whites too. I enjoy them more than whites though as far as when I'm at work or in a group project. The ones in college seem to understand hard work and aren't pussies about shit.

>>1952983
Finee arts bachelor here, made 72k as junior art director my first year. OP is a flamboyant closet homosexual as usual. KYS
Y
S

>>1953334
Is the land or housing cheap in Northcarloina, and how high is the SJW density ?

>>1953354
SJW contained to cities. Housing and land is cheap compared to rest of US

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>>1953360
Man Ohh god you cant imagine how much I love the american way of live dude, and believe me to be a fan of america in Germany as a guy in my age is really hard, Feels like 90% of my friends are left leaningn and even some of my friends are antifags and believe unironaccly in Communism and some even in Socialism

>>1953371
Yeah there's some of them here. Luckily we have enough of normal people that these guys don't gain much traction. I had a Facebook "friend" from high school post about CIS Gender White Males and itjust annoying. I gotta be out though man, wish the best getting to USA and degree good talking.

>>1953381
U too man

>>1952983
IR where I'm from gets you 40k tax free if you are hired by the UN as starting salary;
end salary is right around 100.000 tax free.

>>1953308
Civil engineer here as well. I think for us to make more money we need to get into project management. We can also use any drafting skills we have to make blueprints for small contractors or DIYers

>>1952983

Got a degree in English in 2010. Haven't used it but one time to grade standardized tests for Pearson. Had soul sucked out doing this monotonous, evil job.

Mostly did a bunch of home care giving for sick family, worked lots of delivery jobs.

In retrospect I don't regret getting a degree, just the field I chose.

Unless you want to be a teacher, don't fucking major in English. Choose something that will enable you to pay back your student loans.

feelsbadman.jpg

But hey, gotta make the best of it.

>>1953348
>fine arts student
>calling ANYBODY a homosexual
Okey

>>1953227
you literally don't understand anything you retard. you can an MBA at some state uni or college, as long as its not a community college. as long as you know what to do with your situation, you're fine.

>>1954177
Stay mad, testoslet.

>>1952989
Depends entirely on specialization.

Some will start making more than that.

Physics and Math (pure and applied) for my undergrad and now I'm doing a PhD in Nuclear Physics.

My career path atm is academia, or finance, or somekind of nuclear industry

I make 32k at the moment. I can make 40/hr if I lab demonstrate which I'm planning on getting into.

Double majoring in entrepreneurship/ corporate innovation and finance then going to a better school for an MBA. How am I doing so far

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>tfw want to be a teacher

Poverty tier, here I come!

>>1953031
very

>>1953193
thanks for the blog post

>>1953303
teach, or work in research.

>>1952983
>get bachelors in engineering
>get put in superb tier
>get phd in engineering
>drop a tier
Nice chart.

>>1954223
what do you, hypocrite?

History and Secondary Ed. Pls save me to be your scribe after the nuclear holocaust, I'll work for cheap memecoins my entrepreneurial overlords. I promise to behave!

>>1954410
pretty meme tier
No offense, but sounds like you're a daddy's boy that was ambitious but too stupid.

>>1954635
if you're gonna waste your money on a PhD then go for something high-brow, not more engineering you dip shit.

>>1954649
PhDs don't cost money. There's opportunity cost, but nothing out of pocket.

High brow, like what? Should I jump on the machine learning meme train with the rest of the monkeys all the way to the next dotcom bubble? You do a PhD based on what your interests are, end of story. You wouldn't be able to finish if you did what you did because it seems "high brow". Dumb undergrads.

>>1952983
where's the bs in crypto?

>PHD in finance

Why?

Get your fucking CFA certificate, it's way more important. Why do you only have degrees there, you realize accountants can also get a CPA and that's essentially the equivalent of a masters and has an average salary of like 150k a year.

This chart must be old. "Great tier" is 50k? Are there any college jobs that pay less than 70 starting? It seems like all recent grads I know get 80 with 10 sign on, like everyone and their mom got 70/10 when I graduated. I mean shit whats minimum wage now? Is it even possible to make 50k working full time? I don't want to waste my time doing the math. The economy is booming everyone is heading into to 6 fig club. Its meaningless now. "Superb" is near 6 fig? That's no where near "upper-middle" class. "Middle-class" should own a home. The average starting home is like 500k these days, if have a BA or better, some years exp. and making less that 6 figures you fucked something up. I don't even know how you could like making less that 50k whats the poverty line these days?

>>1952983
I'm a sophomore in aero eng here. Joined as a freshman thinking it'd be cool to work for NASA spacecraft but slowly realizing I'll probably end up riding a desk at a defense contractor. Still excited for the future though, trying to put my focus on jet engine design specifically now and see where that can take me

>>1952983
Hows a bachelor's in Philosophy and Econ, then a Master's in Law?

>>1952983
>econ PhD
>150k+
huehuehue.

no.

t. econ phd

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Should I get a bachelors in Finance and go on to get an MBA, or bachelors in accounting and get my CPA?

Is it possible to obtain both in a reasonable time-span + not break the bank?

>>1952983
Geology is in pretty high demand and the few that I know make a pretty healthy salary. Not to mention they're all raging alcoholics that love to party.

>>1954829
What do you want to do?

Do you want to work in investments? Do you want to eventually be a CFO, controller, accountant etc? How about public or private? What interests you more? Keep in mind most stuff someone in finance learns an accountant learns as well but lots of stuff an accountant learns a finance degree will never teach you. Accounting has to cover literally all aspects of a business and business operations but finance is great if you're interested in focusing on money and investments and how both those things grow and change.

>>1954845
It's a hard choice because I really like aspects of both. Investment banker, Finance analyst, and finance consultant top my list.

>>1953040
You don't like tax law?

>>1954857
I forgot to add, I would enjoy taking a position where, with experience, I could work up to CFO/controller

>>1954857
>>1954884
You can do all those with both degrees but if you want to get far in investment banking or financial analysis you'll probably want to get your CFA which is a massive undertaking

If you want to be a CFO/controller and you want more flexibility then do accounting, just try to avoid public practice like the plague unless you hate free time and work life balance

>>1954889
Thanks for the info.

Can you explain the downfall of public over private? Sheer size?

>>1954903
Public is just a lot more fucking work but also less meaningful work at the same time, prepare yourself for overtime every night and weekend during the busy season filling out the same fucking tax schedules for years fighting to try and eventually become a partner with tons of other soulless husks. Industry accounting is a lot more relaxed, you do your work and go home, during period ends it gets a little busy but for the most part your work isn't going anywhere and you aren't competing for a partner position with 40 other juniors

>>1954762
IN DA SOUTH THAT BIG $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

>>1954916
I'm assuming you're an accountant in the industry?
If so, how's the pay/do you enjoy it?

>>1953031
Change now anon. I studied history intending to do the same thing. I now work as a waiter
>please kill me

>>1954928
I'm finishing my degree and starting my CPA, i've worked since my first year of school in AR and AP positions and have moved up to a junior accountant position that i've had over the past 1.5 years. The pay is good, i've moved up a couple dollars an hour every year, as a freshman I mad 15 an hour in an entry level co-op position and got a promotion to 17 an hour and then I got my new job as a junior accountant for 22 an hour while still finishing my degree. It's not bad work, it can boring sometimes, especially if you're in a big company and you're just 1 of 100 accountants doing the same work every day. The real fun work comes once you start working for smaller companies. I do admit though it's not for everyone, you have to be a pretty analytical person to enjoy it, most of my day involves data analysis and the rest of it is data entry.

>Bachelor in Comp Sci/IT and a bachelor in Business Admin
>Making about 45k starting -> 50k next year

Chart is pretty accurate.

>>1954939
Alright, thanks for all the guidance, I appreciate it deeply. Have a nice evening.

>>1954672
Try getting one of the Marxist nutjobs that offer the PhDs to offer you one.
You do PhD on whatever your area of research is on, not your interests.
Study Finance, economics, or Computer Science.
Academic jack offs have little o-no practical value.

>>1952983
>PhD in Finance or Accounting

why the hell would you do that? why not just get the CFA/CPA and move on from school?

>>1952983
These charts are made by children

>MPH
>being worth anything
ahahahaha

Nursing should be lower btw

>>1954829
Finance can be done in 3 years if you're not inept. MBA can be accelerated and done in 1.5 years. CPA takes years and many tests to be taken and passed.

Accounting is office bitch, Finance is investing.
Do whatever you want.

>>1954976
I agree, probably done by a freshman or some smug faggot in high school trying to showcase his perceived superiority.

In my second last semester, getting Bachelors Major in Accounting / Entrepreneurship.

3.45 GPA from top 3 Canadian school (UofT, UBC, McGill etc)

Worked in Northern Alberta O&G for 3 co-op terms. Made 50-65k CAD salary annualized. Canadian accountants get rekt, especially at big 4. We get offered like 45k CAD salary. Fuck that.

Economy is down the shitter because of our local socialist government, so i have no full time employment lined up.

Likely going to go to trade school and work on the rigs making 40CAD/hr as an apprentice and hopefully get to a field supervisor and eventually department leader level.

>>1955033
CPA only takes 1.5 years if you dont do full time though. It's an 8 month program if you do the accelerated in class version.

>>1954949
Because you're a boring middle-class square. Should have held off on the BA and opted for an MBA. Never too late!

Got a PhD in women's studies, currently making 500k starting.

>>1955039
Didn't know that, very interesting.
I was under the impression you had to take lengthy tests and keep your licensure up to date.

>>1955045
Nice!

>>1955037
At least you've got a plan.
Fuck socialism.

>>1952983
I'm about to graduate next month with my BS in Agricultural Econ. There's a bunch of jobs out there for us Ag Majors a lot of my classmates already have jobs lined up after school

>>1955046
CPA is a one time thing, sometimes designations change but the CPA is just a combination of all the old accounting designations and when they consolidated them they just let you transfer CA, CMA and shit to it. CPA is actually a very quick designation to get if you pass all modules. The CFA is the one that takes a long time, it's a 4 year program that requires multiple years of work experience.

But yeah if you do accounting don't just be an accountant, try and branch out because you can do so much more

>>1955041
I really can't go for an MBA without actually being in a business for some amount of time.

>>1954762
in the midwest and south six figures is a lot of money

exception is like chicago where you need to have like 70k to live comfortably as a single male

>>1954762
>economy is booming
no.
We're getting there, but no.
You sound like an old fart out of the loop.
Kids with business degrees and CS degrees are getting the boot, there's too many cucks getting degrees these days, and they don't mean shit. Never mind the snowflakes with sociology degree, shit is fucked.

Also, you're talking about a big city, because a starter home shouldn't cost you 500k.

>>1954825
>master's in law
WHEW

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>Biochemistry and Biology in bad tier

Why? There is a lot of growth potential. It just happens to be a lot of pre-med cucks take these paths to get into med school, but fail at that and up being worthless. If it's your focus, you can easily be making good or great tier pay. Even more if you turn your BS in Biochemistry into a masters in nanoscience or Bioinformatics.

Master's degree in mechanical engineering from a top 20 university in the US overall
Work at a large aerospace company, starting salary $87K, for my skill code the average is around $130-150k

>>1955167
i'm getting my master's in mech E right now. have you broken into six figure range yet

if so, how long did it take you

i'm currently co-op'ing at a fortune 500 automotive company

>>1955173
No, but I just started less than a year ago. I expect to break six figures within 3 years.

>>1955176
is 87 your base salary or including bonus

regardless, it's an awesome salary if you're a single dude

>>1955183
87 is base. Large bonuses are not typical in this industry, but for 2016 I believe it was equivalent to about ten days of pay.
Yeah, it's great. Benefits are solid too.

>>1955189
are you planning on getting a PE license or do you have one already

>>1955217
My understanding is that it's only necessary if you work at a small firm or if you go into business on your own. Most of my coworkers don't have their PE, and the ones that do have never needed it.
I haven't even taken the FE.

>>1954762
You're delusional

getting BA in Economics, switched to econ from BA.
taking real estate salesperson exam next month and hopefully can find employment in real estate while i do the college thing.

>>1953193
Yeah, I'm an accounting student... I kind of hate a lot of the people in my class. I'm unfortunately sub-par at networking though, so I think I'm fucked for finding a nice job.

>>1954939
Why don't you go into public accounting?

>>1955269
Stress, longer hours, shittier less interesting work (in my opinion), more competition, your an accountant working with hundreds of other accountants.

The only good thing is the very high pay

>>1955274
eh... I wanna do public to start out then move into industry, but I have no idea how to talk to these cunts I don't get along with them, they don't seem to like me... I'm fucked.

>>1955282
Public accounting is a massive popularity contest as well, you have to suck off the partners and appease them all the time. Just do industry if you dont want to tough it out in public, you'll still get a good job, management accounting is still lucrative and can lead you to a nice Chief Officer/Senior/Controller role

>>1953036
wrong as fuck

t. ausfag

>>1955288
Yeah... it's stupid, I have military experience in managment accounting, I have a 3.8 gpa, and of the big 4, 1 gave me an interview and told me the 'so sorry' shit.

>>1955307
Yeah avoid the fuck out of the big 4 and public if it's not for you. You don't even have to do accounting with an accounting degree. Public is lots of audit and tax and I fucking hate those fields.

>>1955316
All this recruiting grind in general is fucking me up. It drains me to talk to all these people and be like trying sooo hard to get them to 'like' me enough to give me a job...

It feels pathetic, and thes other students really make it feel ike a rat race. I want to do public accounting though for right now, I'm just kind of hurt by by chances not goign thru very well .. I just applied to a bunch of sophmore leadership shit and got nothing.

>>1955326
See what you can find in industry, might be able to turn that into a public job with a good reference.

>>1955326
you are in a rat race. it's like a game of musical chairs where there's a shit load of grads and only so many jobs to go around

>>1955326
I know a girl who was getting her Masters in Finance, now she works for Deloitte... She was a lot more fun as a graduate student. Now she's like constantly in a bad mood and shops for luxury brands to make herself feel better (she's also chinese so that might have something to do with it)

>>1955326
Also, I don't know much about her grades or anything, but she's in a smaller city (Tallahassee) and got in through campus recruiting, no referrals or anything. From what I know, she's not very exceptional, so maybe it's easier to get into the big 4 in a smaller market?

>>1954410
>majoring in entrepreneurship

you're doing very, very poorly so far

Architecture here. Starting pay was absolute shit. Ended up doing freelance and I'm making around 80k with a very easy/cushy job by most standards. Might change career soon to get into 6 figure range though.

Is Computer Informations Systems worth it?

>Chemical Engineering
>$120k AUD

Work as a metallurgist at a copper and gold mine about 5 hours from Sydney.

>>1955292
Rofl have you seen the unemployment figures? Its through the roof for all engineering fields apart from civil (which is like 10-15%)

>>1955627
Northparkes?

Hospital Admin

Started: 70k
Current: 135k
3 Years

>>1955671

Nah, thats close by though

>>1952983
Architect, do real-estate appraisals and development calculations, earn 130$ per hour. Plan to enter into real-estate development as it is a natural progression for an architect, the moment I have enough to do a plausible investment.

>>1952983
>nursing bachelor and physics phd same paygrade
Yeah, no

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>>1955730
i am really interested in real estate appraisal (california)
and eventually development.
what advice do you have for me? i am 18 and currently an econ major, havent decided which college to transfer to yet (good gpa).

>>1955709
How long have you been working there for? Did you get the job through a grad program? FIFO?

>>1953168
Raytheon pays their interns for cyber security 50k a year in colorado springs. Its 80k starting once you graduate. The degree by itself is not lucrative but its easy to get the certs and get a job at a decent place with it. That chart is only thinking programming.

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>>1952983
Computer science.

Get a comfy job or hero. Given that my advisor said I was on the path to not being able to get a job out of uni I will probably end up as a hero.

>>1955307
Take your resume to a VEC. You might not be mentioning all the skills you have. Also make sure to claim that you had all of the collaterals.

2nd year econ, although my uni is german-modeled so we get to choose to specialize in either micro (business) and macro (actual econ)

I'm leaning towards finance but I realize I won't have a lot of room for progress without some sort of maths degree, might end up in something like M&A which is okay with me

>>1952983
Philosophy

>>1953308
>>1953635
Im a geotech but deal with a lot of Civils (and I have BE in civil). While I rekon geotech is prob more interesting Civil is good because you learn how to develop land pretty well and deal with council (or whatever the local authority is called where you live).

The skills you learn as Civil could be quite lucrative if you have a bit of capital to put in.

>>1952983
Funny enough, I'm going for a phd in Finance

I'll mention this since nobody else has.

A bachelor's in Petroleum Engineering is the best paying bachelor's degree, and the has a higher mid-career income than and PhD or Professional Degree. Especially considering the PE is mostly centered around Houston, which has a much lower cost of living than other economic hubs like New York or San Francisco.

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Im a dentist and i make 3x the average monthly salary here after working for only 5 months.
What category do i fall in?

is a math/econ degree any good?

>>1952983
This summer I will complete my women's studies BA. What kinda job could I apply to? It's from an online university so does that affect my chances of being hired?

>>1955758
real estate appraisal is essentially based on comparables, the calculation methods are simple with the DCF being 'the complicated one' (you can ofcourse spice it up with some added risk scenarios, depending on the appraisal you are wishing to make).

gaining a base of comparable real-estates is what a good appraiser is building over time. while for an architect this is something he gets thrown into the lap by working on developing those since the get-go, someone that only has a background in finance and real-estate appraisals will have a harder time building one.

my advice is that you put your focus on that. development on the other hand is same as with any investments, get the real-estate under the market value. the edge you will have is, that as an appraiser you will be the one knowing the price before the market, since it is your job to determine it. meaning that if someone is willing to sell for under your percieved mkt.value you will be the first to know.

>>1952983
im aiming to work at a pharma company in the future, what major should i do bros? chemistry, chemical engineering, pharmacology etc
>>1953038
this, psychology has changed to a meme. you just need a residency for specialization man.

>>1953003
i dont get what you're saying but this infograph is garbage anyways

>>1954474
on the upside you'll always be in demand but also your pay will be terrible unless private. i guess it depends where you live as well.
what kind of school anon?
>>1955627
from what ive seen chemical engineering is a shit field in aus if you live in the big cities. so much fuckin saturation
>>1955616
no.

>>1956017
is it viable to get bachelors in petroleum engineering or is the future state of the petrodollar going to fuck up my chances of that? especially for an ausfag

>>1952983
Why is officer in the military never listed?

>>1956606
Because there's not a tier lower than Trash Tier

>>1956065
Fellow architect here, How did you get involved in appraisal and how do you get involved in real estate development? How many years experience do you need? I'm just stuck doing construction documents and red lines for the forseeable future.

>>1952983
>Okey anons, name your degree or the degree youre studying and what your plans are with it

Physics undergrad with math minor. Haven't decided what I want to do yet.

>>1956697

Math major with eco minor master
race

Currently a physics undergrad. Thinking of doing aerospace engineering for my postgrad. Anyone here make this transition?

>>1956577
pharmacology

Is industrial design good major? Im going to cutytech in fall

>>1955817

I did vac work with them during uni 2 summers in a row then they asked me if I wanted the grad position. I finished my 2 year grad position and they asked me to stay permanent, I've been permanent for like 2 years or so now. I'm probably going to go somewhere else soon, it's not ideal to spend a lot of time with one company when you're early in your career.

I live in the town close by, 5:2 roster so Mon-Fri 7-4pm. That's the thing with a few of the NSW mines, they want to support the local towns so they basically force those rosters so you have to live in the town. It kinda sucks I'd rather 7:7 12 hours and just drive back to the coast. Did you do any vac work? I'd recommend applying to anything related to the industry you want to be in. So for mining you should be applying for operator roles, lab technician roles etc. Anything to get your foot in the door and you'd honestly gain a lot more respect in the future working as an engineer if you were in an operator position because you have to deal with operators every day and they are the ones that get things done.

>>1953031
Political Science is a fancy word for applies sociology. If you want to go to law school, you'd actually be better off going for English (some schools actually recommend it as it teaches text deconstruction). Also, join your Mock Trial team.

>>1952983
I'm studying BA of Computer Science. I hope to get a well paying job and work on my own projects on the side.

>>1952983
Graduating this year with "writing" major with minors in pre-law, english, and political science.

Yeah I know that's all shitty. I'm banking on my side projects to boost my resume. I run a successful website and YouTube channel, have a small food business, and have a lucrative acting gig.

If all goes well, I'll continue to be self-employed or start writing for TV/websites/magazines. If things go sideways I'll go back to school for either law or marketing MBA.

>>1952983
Where does being a barber fit on this list?

>>1958212
What kind of degree does being a barber require?

Is law really that bad? Why? Saturation of market?

>BA International Affairs
>MSc Management (this May)

Need to swindle myself into a job somehow with this.

Currently doing a diploma of business public relations and looking to move into a bachelor's of international business or some other business degree that'll get me cash.

>>1952983
>People Think There is a difference between management and Business
>People think there is a huge gap between Business and Econ

Business degrees are a mix of Econ, Marketing, Management and Finance.

>Studied anthropology and marketing
>got 65k job out of college in bay area doing sales
>Worked my way up to consulting role and now making 135 k
>planning on getting MBA soon and hitting the 500k mark one day

Only cucks limit themselves to majors, Real men study what they're interested in and adapt themselves to the job market. All the engineers and doctors I know hate their jobs.

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>>1959252

Comparing pure economics to business

>>1953253

No way are you this stupid

>>1959252
calculus and statistics as well

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Doing a master in organizational/work psychology, feel like I should have done something different like medicine or finance desu...

>>1959292
I'm saying the gap between them us not as huge as people make out

>>1952983
I would assume studying Anthropology would be considered in the Worthless Tier. My cousin earned a Master's of Anthropology, and last I heard he was working part time as a security guard and living his is parents making and selling art online.

>>1959568
Dude it is massive. Macroeconomics to business is like comparing medicine to nursing studies

>>1952983

>economics BA

Started working at a mortgage broker. No idea wtf im doing.

Thinking about moving to calgary to be a analyst at a mineral mining company but who fuking knows.

>>1957999
Political Science is almost universally known as the "law-school degree." English is good, but not really better.

>>1952983
>Aus accountant
>Making approx $80k including super
>Gubmint job.

Life is comfy. Just studying postgrad stuff now. When that's done, the option for extra part time work seems possible - most likely in the army reserves.

Sophomore doing Econ & Stats. Want to work for startups and live somewhere nice. Not sure how to make that happen.

Police officer here, I'm a college dropout, make $42k with a raise to $53k in a few months.

Non "M7" MBA here, starting at 140K, am I still trash tier?

>that chart
>realistic

>>1952983
>you will likely die filled with regrets
true for all tiers

>>1955037 which trade?

>>1962769
Handcuff me to the bed, officer.

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>>1959348

>>1953371
How braindead can Germans be to support communism when the failure that was East Germany existed for years?

Business major. It's fucking dogshit, planning onto taking actuarial science or law as a double major

The funniest part though is that it is supposed to be where the cash is. Yet everyone is a moron. I wish I could be on stem but my friends tell me it's the exact same thing if not worse.

>>1963001
Was enrolled in E engineering + finance

1.5 years later fucking hate finance and the business classes associated, dropping it and taking up bscience in math as well as EE.

It's about personal preference. I have a friend that did average in high school, now has High distinction average in his accounting major, started off in STEM and hated it.

>>1963010
That's interesting. Yeah I'm sure it's all about preferences too but I feel like a grunt while doing homework. I think artfags do a lot more shit than we do. I miss doing heavy loads of homework and despite I hated calculus, I would rather have that instead of the pieces of shit projects we do. Even circuit systems or any autismo class I'll take it.

Btw why did you hate finance?

Working on two degrees, Finance and Political Science.

The Poli sci was just cause a lot of the classes for Poli Sci filled my GE requirements for finance.

I'm a sophomore and have an internship coming up this summer. I like my classes, Im hoping to go to Law school after graduation. My university has a 4 year JD/MBA program I've been really interested in.

>>1952983
>compsci
>4.5 years experience
>finishing up masters (in spare time at night)
>125k

>>1963020
I just have no interest in things like tax shields, capm formula, accounting stuff or anything like that.

I spoke to people in finance and they all said that they very rarely use anything they learnt in uni and that if I don't do a finance/business degree I can end up in finance with an engineering degree or math degree.

So, why learn something if
a) I dont like it
b) It's not used in the career I want to end up in
c) I don't need to know it as a pre requisite for being considered to be in my career
d ) bscience in math opens me up to quant roles in finance as well.

>>1963033
Well yeah you're pretty much right. Not to say the maths in banking is all high school tier shit. Still can serve as personal finance stuff so you don't have to hire an accountant in the future.

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Academia is for idiots. I barely finished highschool and dropped out of an IT course at my local community college yet I'm more successful than all of you with your fancy PhD's that you wasted thousands of hours on.

>>1963071
What do you do?

Any thoughts on mechatronic engineering? Is it worth it?

Is it worth to take a major in sociology?!

>>1963077
Similar experience here. Less than High School education but have niche marketable skills for industrial IT work. Do better than people with even Tech. College paper. Guess it's all about finding the niche,

I'm 18 and doing stats and economics double major in Australia, anyone know what the job prospects might be like?

Majoring in Economics as soon as a transfer this summer. I've only ever took the introductory courses for micro and macro, and I don't remember a thing because it's been so long.

What topics should I brush up on or familiarize myself with? I don't wanna go out into the working world and be one of "those" guys.

>>1963103
I go to a mid tier uni for engineering and every 2nd person in engineering does mechatronics because everyone wants to make cool robots in the projects.

Think about how many grads there are for mechatronics and how there is less grads in mechatronics than things like civil or electrical.

This doesn't take in to consideration if u are going to a top school, you are really passionate about it (ie u have done your own projects with robots or other engineering related stuff) etc etc.

>>1958013

I saw somewhere that mba marketing were the most payed on avg. in New York (187k I think

>>1952983
CNC Machinist. in 5 years could be in the 60k+ with regular job. Could make up to 6 figures if I went in to Natural Gas.

Pharmacy. Where would that fit on the chart?

>>1963381
already in superb tier, anon

>>1958212

JUST-tier

>>1952983
Im studying construction management. I live in Denver so i will probably get hired right away after school making 80k

I'm studying Film. I want to make kino for a living.

How fucked am I?

>>1952983
tfw I'm a doctor and have a high secure income but when reading biz I think I should have become a millionaire 5 years ago by starting a company...

>>1952983
I am a programmer, by biz and 4chan standarts is shit tier but I actually enjoy doing it.

picture was definitely made by a delusional mechanical engineer that got bullied by electrical engineers

>b-b-beta cuck!!

Is international business a meme degree?

I am studying psychology so I can cure my depression.

>>1963603
Isn't Programming, Computer Science, Software Engineering and Computer Engineering the same fucking shit?

>>1964424
you'll get depressed for real once you receive your first paycheck

>>1964449
The first 3 are, the last one isn't. The last one is physical.

currently in bachelors for business. declaring my major next semester between accounting and finance.

>>1963490
depends on whos dick you suck.

>>1952983
Superb tier and above is only for the smartest, actuaries are probably smarter than doctors.

>phd in accounting

is that even a real thing?

>>1952983
History > Inside Software Sales (hopefully promotion to bizdev in the summer) & natguard > MBA

I'm currently trying to get a BBA in management and will dual major with either accounting or financing. My goal is to attain an MBA, am I doing bad?

I do retirement projections in the Seattle area....Boeing, Starbucks, Amazon, Microsoft, other tech/software, Costco, medical, and government jobs are the most popular things I see.

Highest paid positions if working for somebody are tech/software.


The highest earning positions are usually self-employed, super high level management in tech, and sales people with commissions.

An executive level engineer at Boeing might make 350-400k per year after 30 years of experience. I see that sort of income regularly from people in their late 30s and 40s all the time with tech.

I don't always know much about these people but when I do hear stories, most people seem to dislike their work at big tech companies and are burned out by age 55. I never see people retire from places like Microsoft of Amazon beyond 58 or so.

It is really good money, but the hours and commitments that I hear about are a real grind working for big companies. Making 250k per year at Msft is a huge time commitment, but completely possible in your 30s. Never seen anyone that young making that kind of money at an old-school company like Boeing.

Making 250k a year as a financial advisor or sales person.......I know guys who do light work 9-5 M-Th, meetings and phonecalls 30-40hrs per week.

>>1965331
I'm on the sales side in software. Sounds like your recommendation is to stay in software and avoid big tech?

Any big recommendations for specific companies or software industries? (medical/invoice/cloud etc)

>>1964412
In America, of course. Everywhere else, it's as bad as marketing but globalism is at its peak so everyone turns a blind eye for it. It's basically industrial engineering lite

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just got a call today, a job offer from the portfolio management firm i interned at last summer. "junior developer" (i'd previously made clear i want a non-technical role if i work there), and they're going to offer between $13-16/hour. emailing them back tomorrow saying i appreciated the offer.

i graduate in december, bachelor's in accounting, bachelor's in business management w/ concentrations in finance and business.
registered for Level 1 CFA this june.

i feel almost sick after hearing that offer. that's pizza delivery tier pay.
what did i do wrong? i thought i was on the fast track to the middle class. i feel so defeated, send help...

>>1965371
shut up and put it on your resume.

start working the job and immediately start looking for another

>>1965338
Not really, most big tech companies have great benefits, life/DI, HSA contributions, medical plans....most offer cash bonuses, equity compensation, ESPPs, etc.

I can't recall doing any cases recently where I've been told that "this guy is a salesman for Oracle" for instance, but it isn't always apparent what they do from the paystub. Commission may come in the form of a massive RSU grant of bonus.

Go where the commissions are high and the deals are quick.

Lol what Tier is a CCNA And an A+ certification

I have a PhD in Applied Mathematics and a MS in Computer Science. I'm retired now, so I mostly manage my investments and hang out with my dog. Sometimes I sit on my back porch in the afternoon and do a few bong hits. Life is good.

>>1952983
>tfw just switched course from mechanical engineering to computer science
h-haha lads

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>>1952983
BS in Mechanical Engineering, working on an MS in Aerospace Engineering, currently making about $80k/yr as an aerospace engineer.

>>1965371
Just keep looking. My first job offer out of my BS was for $15/hr! It took a few months before I got my current job.

lol I'm an A&P mechanic making $42hr, I'm content

>>1965331
I go to UW. Trying to go into financial advising or sales, where should I apply for internships? M-Th, 9-5, 30-40hrs a week sounds cushy

>>1965511
Financial advice has a high attrition rate. A young, starving advisor has to take on anyone as a client. Lots of young people work within a larger practice with the hopes of buying that person's book of business out at some point.

Lots of financial advisors are just franchisees under whatever name they do business with. Charles Schwab, Ameriprise, Edward Jones.....these places have franchise advisors that are all just small business people. Look up franchise advisors in the Seattle or Bellevue area and email some people.

>>1959274

what if i'm interested in being a doctor/studying medicine?

>>1959274
>>got 65k job out of college in bay area doing sales
elaborate? advice?

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kind of a weird question but I google isn't helping. how would I find out how much it costs to have a shipping company ship large quantities of a good?
trying to understand logistics of exporting a product like coca-cola to see how much overhead they deal with

sorry for the thread derail but biz doesn't exactly have a QTDDTOT threads and this is the only board I trust to not be retarded

>>1965446
How old are you? And what kind of career did you have? Why are you on 4chan if you made it?

>>1965719
project for an MBA class

>>1965743
correction, undergrad

>>1965719

Early 50's. I've been retired for a decade. I had a mostly mundane career in industry working mostly on various types of optimization problems. My last career move turned out to be a really good decision.

As for 4chan, there are some smart dudes hanging out on some of these boards. I've found some quality nuggets on /biz/ hidden amongst the rest of the bullshit.

>>1965719
my bad, I thought you were responding to >>1965685

>>1953010
Low COL reigion and i make 52k entry as a chemE

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>>1965859
Fuck I just want to retire early and hang with my dog in some farm town in Oregon. How do I get down this path lol

>>1956044
Low effort

>>1956633
Whatev dude. I'll fly my plane until my commitment is up and then move to the majors and make 150k+

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Getting a degree in MIS, I'd say it's decent tier. I'm hoping once i'm employed they'll pay for me to get a masters in Data Science but i'm not to worried about it.

>>1959299
Business calc is the biggest joke of all time. It's not even an effective filter since all the dudebro fratstars have answer keys

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>>1955616
It's a fine degree i think. I'm doing Management Information Systems. It's sort of known as the degree for people who weren't smart enough for Comp. Science, but at least it's not communications.

Double major B.S. Chemical Engineering, B.A. Economics and a Math minor, grades are low but not complete shit. Am I fucked?

Getting a B.S. degree in Kinesiology. Most of my peers are meatheads who either want to try and get lucky to be an athletic trainer for a pro team or PT/OT. I've only met 3 people who want to do something different.
I'm going into Prosthetics and Orthotics, a little weary about going for the masters though, the program sites speak of 100% employment rate, but from the people I've met in the field and grads I've spoken to, it's a whole nother story. It used to take only a B.S. to become certified as a practitioner. Going to play the field a while as a tech/assistant and see where I can go from there.
I'm very interested in 3D printing tech and implementing art into the devices, so I'll probably attempt to train and practice in that realm while I work in the more practical one.

Pretty excited to graduate, despite the low earning potential I have. If all fails I'll just try for medical device sales.

>>1952983
Finance and International Business Double Major
German minor

Kinda fucked up my GPA with ridiculous credit loads but I'll probably graduate with a 3.2. Want to get a few years of experience then earn my MBA.

>>1964449
computer engineering is Electrical eng + software eng.

>>1956590
aerospace eng is definitely not superb tier in aus. Not enough jobs at all, bit like chem eng like you said

>>1963223
should be fine dude. Eco is always in demand in melb/syd and stats is a bonus.

I always hate these.

The median income in the United States is around 45k. If you're making more than that you're doing better than most people in one of the richest countries in the world. Just keep that in mind.

I make about 75k with 9 months experience at my current job. I'm probably not going to be living in a mansion but I'm not going to be stressed for money.

I still hate my job like everyone else though.

I have a B.S. in International Economics and I start at a major insurance provider next week doing call center work for $18 an hour, how fucked am I. Gpa was 2.8. Might just do night classes and try to get another major in logistics

>studying songwriting, music business, and graphic design
>planning to develop and promote artists from discovery to distribution
>I'm a jew with family connections so the odds are very high I'll succeed in the industry

B.A. in Political Science here. I knew I'd have no job prospects so I earned a certificate in public relations during my work as a communications coordinator. I make $40K take home salary with benefits and such.

There is hope for those graduating with low to trash tier degrees. You just need to market yourself, have a lot of prior experience and a few connections aren't so bad.

Sure, I'll be working for management for a few years, but right now I'm leading the communications department with a promising direction. I'm 21, mind you. I figure if I keep at it I can eventually move into a political party and get loads more money with all that political donations funneled into our pockets.

Rule of thumb: if you have a way to piggy back those who are rich and who need your specific skills, in my case public relations, then you're set. And hey, eventually with enough expertise I might even be able to run as a politician and know exactly how to run a political campaign.

Trust me, I already know a few political and/or public relations campaign managers who work for political parties and they earn anything between $100K to $200K a year. Not bad.

>>1966409
I'm
>>1966208
I'm interested in politics, but obviously no experience. How do I get started? Just go to a city council meeting?

>>1966422
Start off getting to know your area, what is ongoing issues, what policy direction your Mayor and Council is heading, etc. Write about it in your local newspaper, or do an interview at a radio station -- just get known. Then, if you can work for some company that had some influence over the community. Unless you're running for Mayor or Councillor position I'd advise against working for municipal or regional government. Just get yourself known, and most often than not, if you care about the place you live in people are going to notice and be more likely to hire you.

>>1966422
Volunteer on a campaign. Politics is all about who you know.

Graduated poli Sci. Started as field organizer making 1500 a month collecting signatures and cold calling voters.

Then transferred to a bigger campaign for who our candidate knew.

Then field director from first race was a campaign manager on another. Needed a field director. Perfect.

Then colleague from second campaign knew state rep who needed help. Served as her field director. Then served as her chief of staff for four years. Meh pay, but great experience.

Took that and rolled over into lobbying job. Now at 70k and I travel the country constantly.

>>1952983
Computer Science.
I was in the military working on BMD so I want to use my secret clearance to land a job doing network security.

>>1952983
Accounting and Finance in the UK at a Russel group uni. Got an internship lined up with a big 4 company, which will hopefully lead to a grad job offer. Aiming to go down the tax route, maybe dropping down to a mid tier firm where there are more chances for progression. Would be nice to make partner some day.

Hey guys, what should I go for? I'm about to start taking classes in a few months. What have you all found the most success with?

>>1952983
i have a degree in business, can confirm that i'm only qualified for pleb-tier jobs. if it wasn't for my dad who has a company, i would have become some form of "financial advisor" aka insurance pusher, MLM collaborator. Fuck my scam business school. And I should have studied information science (at least I could have mastered Java or something - a skill).

Hey biz .I will choose my uni at the end of this year and I cant decide between ee,mechanical engineering and endustrial engineering.Any tips ?My goal is to work in asia(China,Japan or Korea)

Where would a hospitality degree be?

I'm making $60k as a high school dropout general manager

Is the difference between a general business degree and finance or economics degree really that drastic?

B.A. in History

I'm looking into a master's degree at the London School of Economics or King's College London in order to perk up my CV since history is pretty fucking useless

Hope to get into either journalism or a global intelligence agency

What are my chances? Should I lay 20.000 £ on the table for a fancy LSE master's?

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>>1964959
kek

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>>1966671
software engineering, math, or comp science (in that order)

>>1952983
Great tier here, phd in the making. I already bag in 1400$/mo in research grants.

>>1966409
I'm a bachelor student of history and I'm interested in PR-related stuff. Could anyone recommend a master's degree that's related?

>>1966455
>>1966454
Thanks, I met a guy in a city council a couple months ago at a toastmasters meeting, he's friends with my friends mom, who is in the same city council? Am I pretty set up to just start advertising myself to them?