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ETH Hits $19

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>he STILL didn't buy Ethereum
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Kek this train is going all the way baby,
cucks can stay and wait for the next train
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>>1829074
lol stupid cucks
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>>1829647
>>1829650
$20/ETH soon, lads.
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>>1829074
Ether can suck my cock.

I don't trust it.

Everyone wants decentralized private and anonymous use? Lol ether is anything but that. If it's successful it's only because it's the new data mining nwo cuck tool
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>not buying Dash
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I got in at $7 a while ago and I'm only mad because I couldn't buy more due to stupid site weekly spending limits.
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>>1829074
how are we gonna cash out once its at the moon? im on coinbase
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>>1829670
Sell it for euro or dollars and withdraw the funds, simples..
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>>1829670
you hit the sell button
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>>1829670
Question. Can I simply trade my BTC/ETH for gold to avoid taxes?
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>>1829692
what does this mean? I definitely have some
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Next station: The moon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZNtYmdZ-4c
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>>1829705
enter your checking account # & connect it to your bank account obviously.
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Best place to buy ETH?
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>>1829722
I, personally, use Coinbase and Kraken. Coinbase slow as fuck though.
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>>1829074
But the real question is how much is a smart amount to buy?
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>>1829728
Depends completely on the amount you are willing to loose and if you want to hold for a longer time or just want to make some dollars.
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>>1829666
Also my deposit balance is 0.196820927
https://etherscan.io/address/0x4d82bfb8b8e1b1c7825e81dfa293d6c38d063dc1
and it's going to drive me insane. Is there some kind of faucet I can use to get 0.01 ETH to satiate my autism?
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>>1829722
Gemini; especially if in new york and of course coinbase
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>>1829737
If you have any other crypto use shapeshift.io
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>>1829737
Sent ;) anyway
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>>1829700
go away ron paul
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>>1829737
>>1829761
Send me some back when you are rich :)
0xE5c695364a9Bf9A584e581404b870a9F3740EaDa
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Is this legit?
https ://ethtrade.org/investors
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Its dipping! Nows the time to buy!
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>>1829761
>>1829777
My hero. When this shit hits the moon I'll remember this.
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Hopefully 100 coins will make me richer den a bitch one day. How high do you guys think the value will go and when?
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Holy shit someone fucked up
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>>1829793
Should easily hit $1000 by next year or late this year at the earliest. Especially after Casper is released and mining becomes impossible.
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>>1829797
Kek. Fucked up once myself. Accidentally sold the price I wanted to buy when it drops.
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>>1829803
>Should easily hit $1000 by next year

Delusion
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Isn't ethereum inflationary? Can't I just wait until the price inflates away and get in?
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Noob here - I've been mining shitcoins and tapping faucets with the intention of shifting them all into ETH

My equipment is mad old so I can't mine the ETH directly until I manage an upgrade

But hey - slow and steady is better than inert, I suppose

If anyone feels like fueling my moon rocket:
0x0caaC430CC0d8E127478a2f9299509E71e69fc08

>inb4 get a job

I have one but it's salary and they're cucking me for 70+ hours a week while paying me for 40
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>>1829835
>ethereum inflationary

I wish this meme would die.

PoS inflation rate is not yet finalized.

However, the lead PoS designer - Vlad - has mentioned multiple times that his aim is to design a system where PoS validators are paid trading fees only (i.e. zero inflation).

Vitalik mentioned another solution - create "just enough" inflation to incentivize about 1000 people to become validators and maintain the network.
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>>1829835
why don't ya google it and do basic due diligence before ya invest in something?
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can we get some sideways action now? I'm holding ETH, and don't plan on buying more, but these gains are making me nervous
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I hope that the price drops back down to 10 before it rockets like it did in June. I only have 24 coins and am too much of a wage slave to get to my goal of 100 coins rn
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>>1829899
I don't think that's going to happen. It'd be nice to get those extra gains but this train has been leaving the station since $11. Unless something crazy happens again, I don't see it going sub-$16.
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>>1829655
Its more decentralised than bitcoin motherfucker. There are more ethereum nodes than bitcoin nodes. And the mining is not overwhelmingly concentrated in one communist country called china.
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>>1829930
>Unless something crazy happens again

Thats a high possibility.
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>>1829782
No
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>>1830040
I never advocated for btc
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>>1829074
anyone mine? im a complete noob who wants to get started; never mined any coin before.
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>>1830040
And you didn't respond to my statement faggot. Big government lives shit like this, Facebook sold out, and ever already proved it would. You cunt
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>>1830059
Companies like microsoft arent going to use the actual ethereum blockchain they just want the tech to make their own blockchain systems
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>>1830069
They'll do both private and public. There's a lot of money on the public chain and companies will want to find ways to get at that money.
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>>1830059
>Big government
go away lolbertarian
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>>1829074
>crashes
Time to sell boys
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>tfw hodling 2000 ETH
>and 200 DASH
>and 28 BTC
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>>1830240
At what average price?
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>>1829074
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>>1830272
very true. get out of bitcoin quickly and leave those chinks to baghold their useless ones and zeros.
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>>1830232
poor soul, you are getting left behind now :(
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>>1830251
BTC 475
DASH 14
ETH 3
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>>1830069
You're proving my point
>>1830228
Yeah it's called corporations and globalist elite, they use things like Facebook to control you you twat
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>>1829074
Rookie here. What platforms do you use to trade? I'd like to get in on this soon
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Dam it feels good to be a coiner
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>>1830336
>Yeah it's called corporations and globalist elite, they use things like Facebook to control you you twat
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>>1830339
Buy btc on coinbase, then trade in poloniex and cryptopia. Make sure to get wallets like coinomi, electrum, jaxx...
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>>1830334
Redpill me on Dash.
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>>1829074
snapchat is already at 25 in their first day of trading
ethereum is pathetic.
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>>1830347
I Can't get the fuckin phone app to work. shows I have no funds.
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>>1830240
It ain't a profit until you sell lad.
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>told myself 4 days ago I would buy during the next dip
>it just keeps skyrocketing
should I just give up and buy now?
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>>1830479
17-18 is the lowest its gonna go. doubt we'll see sub 17
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lol, so many noobs gonna be bagholding $18+ eth real soon
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>>1829074
>49% in a week
>not a bubble


ETHfags are gonna get rekt soon.
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>>1830496
This,dont buy now
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>>1830507
Yeah fuckin right. In order to be a bubble, it has to pop. If people want to get into cryptocurrency, they're gonna look at BTC and see the > 1200 price tag and come straight to ETH. Don't expect people to stop paying for ETH until it gets a lot closer to the level of BTC.
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Will my 1 ETH ever be worth millions?
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ETH looks to be a fantastic opportunity. I really fucking hope China crumbles.
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>>1830544
>> With dub's like that it will be anon.
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Place your bets, gents
http://www.strawpoll.me/12451139
http://www.strawpoll.me/12451139
http://www.strawpoll.me/12451139
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So when are those dapps gonna become reality so we can see some actual growth of ETH?
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>>1830544
no
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>>1830572
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12451139
lol @ nocoiners voting <50
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Should I buy $500 of ETH at the current price? I don't know what else to invest it in, I made those $500 using BTC
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>>1830572
>Moon option is colored grey
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>>1830537

Eeeeeeeh literally 7 times more eth in circulation and still being mined with no limit fixed. I think you mean close to the market cap of BTC. Price tag is irrelevant.
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>btc in mega bull
>dash in lsd mode
>plenty of cheap shitcoins ready to correct

>huur buy this eth top guys it forks and stuff it's cool
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Complete noob here how do I withdraw money from my CoinBase account? Telling me I need to pay at least 6 euros to transfer money?
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>>1830743
Akchually

Btc inflation is much higher.

Currently 16 million btc increasing to 21 million which is almost double

Currently 88 million eth increasing to 90 million when casper POS is introduced and effective inflation goes to 0

Basically bitcucks, your currency is now obsolete.
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>>1830846
>eurocuck detected
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>>1830743
>no limit fixed.
Isn't this a good thing? All (((economists))) say we need inflation and deflation is an especially bad sign.
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20 coming up lads
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>>1830979
Hes talking out of his ass. basically bitcucks will do this when they feel their bags getting heavy
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>>1830980
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>>1830980
I might just break nofap for this. Feels fucking good to own ETH right now.
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i bought 2.5 eth @19.98. just fuck my shit up
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>ether cucks celebrating that they're almost back at the valuation they were at 1 year ago

lol top kek sorry you guys weren't holding btc
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>>1831017
>bitcucks not being able to count
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Realistically how high could this go? Are we looking at $1,000 per ETH within a few years? All of these companies on board with it seems promising.
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>>1831021
we're in uncharted territory lad. just strap on and we'll see where it takes us
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>>1831026
>strap on
kinky.
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>>1831021
Probably a couple of hundred bucks each in the near term. Could be thousands in a few years time
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>>1831033
Well I'm going to put as much as possible into this while it's still $19-20. If it goes to $50, that's great.
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Did Eth release some great new technology recently or something? How come everyone's all excited about it now and just a few weeks ago everyone recognized it for the trash it was?
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Make that 20 OP
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>>1830993
give me eth and fap to me anon-san! :3

0x68BC0Cc6B1F0f6C30F45D2a6F793eE4EdC729c49
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Wham bam straight to the moon
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20 on poloniex senpai we dit it
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We'll see $30 quite soon
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am i going 2 b rich lads
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Bitcoin is like when Nikola Tesla was all like let's give away wireless electricity and Edison was all like nah let's capitalize on that stuff. And that's what Ethereum is as ground breaking as electricity and at the turn of a century no less and many are capitalizing early on, anyone else get that analogy?
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$20.40 on Cuckbase right now. We did it Reddit!
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>>1831114
$21.22 on Cuckbase right now actually, excuse me!
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>>1829650
ahahahhaahahahhahahahhahah
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>>1831114
Fuck this thing needs to slow down. I have 15 dollar coins that haven't even been delivered
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>>1831050
http://entethalliance.org/

Those companies
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>>1829074
He still didn't buy an Ethereum shirt yet?
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>bought at 15
>sold at 8
>now its 20
I hate gambling
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>>1829662
how'd that work out for you friendo
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shit guys, the buy support on gdax is waning, we are probably in for a dip
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>>1831228
Good. Then we can buy more.
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>>1831237
the order books have flipped to sell on every exchange, I doubt it'll pull back very much though
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Bought 300 at 14.7. Not a lot, but hopefully if I hold it long enough it'll be worth something like by end of 2018.
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Selling here
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>>1829074
ETH is the equivalent to efiat
they can change the code whenever they see fit
there's projected to be 100million units but that's also flexible
if there is a mistake or hack they will rollback wallets

not a terrible idea, but it isn't anything to hold long term
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>>1831109
nikola tesla is like core team coming up with crafty ideas to maximize blocksize without hardforks, or even mimble wimble devs,
and edison is like the chinese miners keeping the 1mb limit blocking segwit for profits
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>>1831202
> panic selling at half your initial cost
you deserved it.
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What is everyone's best guess as to chances of a moon landing? I say right around 20% that we shoot off into space, 60% that we end up playing sideways at ~$35, and the rest that it drops back down to the upper teens.
What say you, anons
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>>1831285
i'm just here for the wild ride anon
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>>1829074
OMG, I was late I didn't buy Etherium late last year and it has more than doubled where can I buy etherium, give me a good reputable website /biz/
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>>1831295
https://www.btcmarkets.net/
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Daily /eth/ poorfag thread. Richfags and early investors please donate to poorfags.

0xA09c58e3F9BdA41882247a7b755bA955d3352fcE
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>>1831298
>polo clears $30 million in ETH in one day
>this exchange clears a few thousand
really anon
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>>1831304
i cant register to any other site without a passport
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>>1831304
>>1831309
>>1831298
Wait I'm from Australia, does that affect me in any way can you give me and Australian website??
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>>1831317
sorry just an americunt on late on a work night. your options are probably limited. btce is pretty lax with KYC from what I remember though.
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>>1831317
>https://www.btcmarkets.net/
this one was pretty easy to do with just drivers license, phone number and sent them my telstra bill that i get to my email address.
was confirmed over night.
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>>1831320
Thanks anyway, mate.
>>1831325
Can I use papal to something to get my wealth onto the account then buy ETH, crypto-currencies are fantastic but the channels to get them are so hard to navigate
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>>1831333
just getting into it myself
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>dumped 16k a year ago across eth and btc

Feelsgoodman, I'm not selling shit until BTC is 1500 and ETH is 300
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>>1831338
crazy gains dude nice
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>>1831338
nice coins, but what the hell is Lumens
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>>1831355

Some memecoin you could claim for free when holding btc
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>>1830414
>not understanding that there is a difference between a fucking CURRENCY and an IPO Stock.
'fuck out of this board
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Does anyone know a way to buy btc or eth with paypal without having to register my id (im in europe if that helps ) i dont want to pay the 3.50€ withdrawl fee on virwox and getting only 50% out of my btc on localbitcoin or similar sites
Isnt an option.
also if anyone is feeling generous : 0x80143ff66808bdd1e99437017c7e63d6e22ea2ca
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>>1831480
paypal is not accepted anywhere without id because of carding

the only choice you have is to just buy btc at the markup (It's not 50% idiot) on localbitcoins and then transfer that btc on an exchange that takes btc deposits and then just buy eth with btc, then when you're done sell it marked up on localbitcoins again

honestly localbitcoin has the lowest barrier of entry if you cant clear that youre shit out of luck

if you really want to make the most of your money sepa deposits are the way to go but you'll definitely want to pay taxes then
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This is a massive pump and dump going on and you don't even see it. Enjoy your loses.
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>>1831485
>Enjoy your loses.
>Implying I don't have a Stop-loss order to make at least 20% benefit

Nigga, you're funny.
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>>1831487
What software do you use to set a stop loss? How do I do it at yobit.net?
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>>1831483
Thanks for the help ill look into it
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>>1830911
When will casper be released?
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>>1831494
i assume you just put a sell order for a certain amount/price and leave it there

but i dont know wtf am doing, just wanted to buy 50$ worth so i dont regret anything later, regardless what happens
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>>1831189
Are these companies actually going to be using the Ethereum blockchain or do they just want the tech to make their own blockchain systems ? Why would the likes of Microsoft use Ethereum when they can just use their own blockchain?
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>>1831566
Small organisations can be far more agile than large ones like Microsoft when it comes to new tech. The banks at the conference said that public blockchains were way ahead technologically than their own implementations.

So that's why they want to use it. Yeah they'll use it privately, but because of the alliance, their improvements and research should benefit the public chain. E.g. if Accenture and JP Morgan come up with some sort of excellent security scheme, it should then be adoptable by the Ethereum Foundation for the rest of us.

That's what I took from the conference anyway.
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>>1830228
T.communist
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>>1831571
they also want their private system (they're not really blockchains they're ust internal databases using the ethereum smart contract language) to be able to interact with each other over the public ethereum settlement layer which would provide auditable transactions and trustless computing. so basically the ETH public chain WOULD be used by the banks.
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in novemeber 2015 i was at a banking conference held at novotel near charles de gaul airport in paris. in attendance were all the CEO's of the major banks in europe, UBS, Deutche bank, VISA, barclays Etc. Etc. also in attendance was UN secretary general Ban Ki Moon and other EU leaders. it was a 3 day conference which ran at the same time as the paris climate talks (probably used as a cover so they had an excuse to be in paris) on day 2, the attendees had a 3 hour long talk on Ethereum, smart contracts and the implications of the above.

thats when I went all in on ETH.
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>>1831590
How many eth did you buy and for how much?
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>>1831594
a lot. check the price in november 2015 ;)
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Which wallet are you lads using?
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>>1829074
guys help, i transfered my bitcoins to my ether walletbut i accidentally used an old transaction address. It completed but the coins are not showing up in my ether wallet yet.

Did i lose my coins forever?
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>>1831584
Is that so. That's interesting now. I presumed they were going to use their own external chain for this.

Maybe the ETF will pass then, if the big wigs are so sold on Blockchain as a tech.
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>>1831611
no idea about that. winklevosses are not very powerful. if they have their ducks in a row it could pass. but bitcoin is irrelevant for the future. it can't implement smart contracts properly. ethereum can.
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>>1831610
yes
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>>1831614
You sure?
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>>1831613
I know that in my European country, every single bank, fintech company, and investment company have a presence at the increasingly common conferences on Blockchain and so on, with smart contracts being a big focus.

I just can't imagine them using a public chain for transactions. Maybe while it's proof of work, using a public chain could be seen as reducing variable costs and increasing safety from majority attacks, but after PoS? We'll see I suppose.
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>>1831610
> i transfered my bitcoins to my ether wallet
What the fuck?
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>>1831624
the thing is. banks have realised "private blockchain" is just a pointless thing. the whole POINT of a blockchain is it's decentralised and trustless. you cannot have an impartial settlement of a derivative if the bank that is doing the transaction also owns the blockchain. it is simply not a thing.

the blockchain banks use by definition has to be open, decentralised and not trusting any one party. at least for final settlement.

R3 announced it is impossible to create a bank only chain for exactly this reason. the conclusion of R3 is: use ethereum.
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>>1830228
commie piece of shit
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This is hilarious because I was planning to buy it two months ago but I was too lazy and just stuck with the stock martket.
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>>1831639
yeah, and the banks just wont bother giving up control to any public chain. as interesting as smart contracts are, the only real point of a good blockchain is storing value. every interesting thing going on in ethereum using smart contracts are not decentralized, theyre just using contracts but the real value is all off-chain, in the form of assets or promises held by the underlying companies
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>>1830911
>21 is almost double16
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>>1831646
It's not "giving up control" of anything banks will still own their contracts, their private keys, they will also own their own internal "ethereum blockchains" which just means internal ethereum databases. but to interact with other chains owned by other organisations they will have to transact over the main public chain.

without decentralisation there is no blockchain, it is simply not a thing. you cannot have a blockchain owned by one party which controls all the transactions it is just not a blockchain.
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>>1831653
he needs those mental gymnastics to forget how badly he missed the cryptocurrency boat.
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>>1831654
exactly, which is why ethereum isn't going to be the future of any of what you're dreaming of. these companies are experimenting with the idea of using a blockchain, but they have no reason to ever use one that's public and has as much baggage as ethereum does.

its a great way for them to test out ideas, but they wont ever cede control. why would they want to have to stop their network for 6 hours because some random third world child found a DoS exploit. why would they want to roll back their entire internal network because a significant % of independent miners/holders (who the banks have no control over whatsoever) decide to fork the network. and so on.

if you can't see why public chains won't ever feature prominently in these companies then you need to start thinking objectively.
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How do I buy them?
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>>1831662
>says increasingly nervous man
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>>1831669
you seem to be the one shilling the hell of of ethereum here, and i'm sure ive done better than you when it comes to crypto, but nice try. maybe start thinking instead of dreaming and come back to me.
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>>1831590
Could you post proof? It would be the last sip of kool aid to have me completely indoctrinated.
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>>1831677
no. I cannot. feel free to check the information I have already provided in my post. also, why the fuck would I lie?
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>>1831676
I accept your defeat in this debate. have a good day
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>>1831678
Because you have money in it and want to convince people to buy it so price goes up.
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>>1831654
>>1831662
How does currency transfer between different blockchains work? Is it even possible?
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>>1831677
no one would be stupid enough to post any significant revealing information about how much money they have.

>>1831680
you ceded that already when you started your little ad hominem attacks, why even try?

>>1831681
he shouldnt need people to buy it if he bought in back in 2015, unless he still has the same number of ethereum now as he did then, in which case he fucked up badly and probably is shilling.
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>>1831682
its the same way it's designed to work on sidechains which is something people have been working on in bitcoin. you just have to orchestrate locking and unlocking of funds to make sure money/tokens cant exist on two chains at once.
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>€19.30
€20 when?
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I want to buy how do i buy it?
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>>1831686
>no one would be stupid enough to post any significant revealing information about how much money they have

>at least every few hours some anon posts screencap of his holdings
>there is literally a jerk thread with teller machine receipt right now
>implying you can be identified by a jpeg with cleared EXIF data

>>1831678
>why the fuck would I lie?
Everything posted on internet forums, especially on 4chan, is a lie by default. Unless you post proof. This is one of the basic unwritten fundamentals of the internet, isnt it?

>>1831696
newfags fueling funds into our pyramid scheme
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>>1831700
believe what you like. it's a rather unusual story for someone to make up don't you think? as if I have any proof of what i was doing nearly 2 years ago.
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>>1831700
sure if youre happy with a screencap as proof, but theres always some autist that expects people to post signed messages.
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>XMR slowly following along

F-feels good I guess...
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http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg0MTMzNjYzMg==.html


also, I will be investing in this ICO.

the scam accusations are a red herring to keep the noobs out. classic bitcointalk tactics. same thing happened with the ethereum ico.
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>>1831707
its just the schizophrenic altcoin traders jumping from dash to xmr right now
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>>1831713
Is that a problem ?

You're honestly gonna tell me DASH has more potential than xmr ?
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>>1831719
And you're gonna tell us either of those 1.0 knockoff coins has more potential than ETH?
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>>1831724
Why not play both fields ?

XMR has just has much value because it's easy to sell as an idea, more easier than ETH, and XMR is useful for some people - plus the anonymity.

Don't put all your eggs in one basket, bud

XMR will follow along nicely, as it always does
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>>1831719
Dash is a scamcoin based on a pyramide scheme obviously.

I believe that xmr has got potential because people buy the hype, but it has too many flaws and is just another pump/dump in the 'long' run.
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>>1831719
i dont know where you got that from, dash is the definition of a shitcoin, but thats why xmr is going up.
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>>1831730
The thing is that eth is going to get us more privacy aswell, so it depends on the functionality - i'm certain that it replaces xmr if we can safely use it in a simple way later, but i might be wrong and they really intend not to give a fuck about normal, anonymous trading, in which case another coin has to pop up and replace bitcoin/xmr for their weaknesses
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>>1831731
I think you guys underestimate the anonymity and practical aspect of xmr

>>1831749
I agree
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OH BOY ITS COMING DOWN
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>>1831754
ETHUSD still 2% above yesterdays level.

I hope you are happy with your """"""dump"""""""
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>>1830419
You can try it on the computer
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>>1831752
No, apparently you exaggerate it

It is a step in the right direction, but not revolutionary enough to survive.

I'm just telling you to be realistic and drop it at the right time without regrets instead of being too greedy.
I wish you a safe, enjoyable ride nonetheless, anons.
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wtf happened there?
did the brief dip trigger too many stop-orders?
any anons get in at below 17 a few minutes ago?
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>>1831770
It was your chance to get on the train
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>>1831769
the same argument can be made for ethereum. the only coin that has significant staying power is bitcoin, because it was the first. theres nothing stopping a new platform with a better, safer contract language coming along and taking over ethereum over the course of a couple of years. it's naive to think ethereum is safe from being taken over and at the same time predicting bitcoin's demise or even significant downturn by ethereum.
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Ever wonder whether Sakashi will ever make himself public? He is the one who solved double-spending, isnt he? Probably the first inventor behind major invention who chose to stay anonymous.
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>>1831777
>tfw applied for a kraken account but they still havent verified it and the weekend is nearing
god dammit cant you see Im willing to pay taxes why does this take so long
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bought eth at $19 yesterday. hope it will go down so i can buy more for less.
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>>1831805
It's falling right now. Hopefully not to hell.
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>>1831805
>>1831807
calm down, we've had 10+% back to back for days now, it's about time for a correction.
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>>1831800
satoshi nakamotos real name is nick szabo.
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>>1831807
If it goes to hell you better follow it on down and buy as much as you can for cheap because it's blowing up right now. All the major tech companies are getting on board, Theres some big things happening right now, This could be like what 2009 was for bitcoin.

We could all be posting pictures of our lambos and yachts on instagram in a few years.
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>>1831816
It's going up again.

Damn, my bank needs one day for a SEPA transfer and they don't do anything on weekends. Fucking joos
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>>1831834
Thought about buying overpriced btc for cash over the weekend to trade with for the coming monday bull run
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>>1831843
Wait until ETF gets rejected and buy the crash.
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>>1831807
Good I hope it dips some more. I want to maximize my next buy and missed out on $16 thinking we'd see lower in the short term.
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>>1831857
You mean more like btc flips to eth if when that happens and if it does go through than one for eth is on its way which means moon ride. So win win

Pretty sure many would have loved to buy btc at around $20 and eth is your second chance if you didn't
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>>1831795
>the only coin that has significant staying power is bitcoin
>because it was the first
>theres nothing stopping a new platform with a better safer contract language coming along and taking over
>it's naive to think ethereum is safe from being taken over
>the only coin that has significant staying power is bitcoin
>because it was the first
>it's naive to think ethereum is safe from being taken over
>theres nothing stopping a new platform
>because it was the first
>the only coin that has significant staying power is bitcoin
>naive
>never
>nothing stopping new technology
>never
>bitcoin
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>>1831865
Of course my horse. I'm way long on ETH. Rocket's on the launchpad, etc. But I still wouldn't pass up the chance to buy BTC at a significant crash. I'm not an emotional child about which crypto currency is my waifu or whatever.
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>>1831857
I wondered why would an ETF approval even be something good for BTC? Isn't BTC being used by a lot of people because its not on the ETF's radar, or am I wrong?
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>>1831871
At least 40 people already disagree with your optimistic btc comment (see pic). Ethereum is as ground breaking as Web 2.0 like HD on YouTube from potato phone cameras to 4K phone cameras etc.
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>>1831882
That was the original draw. But they're deluded to think signals of mainstream adoption aren't good things. They'll talk down about all the industry backing ETH has gotten because much decentralized currency MAAAANNNN. While at the same time salivating at the possibility Janet Yellen might look them in the eye. Either way they'll claim victory.
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>>1831893
Haha pic related from eea and from a bankers mouth the whale of whales.
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>>1831886
I was pointing out the hypocrisy of saying in the same breath "BTC is invulnerable to any future improved crypto iteration" while also pointing out that "Ethereum better be careful because something could come along and very easily improve upon it."

ETH is crypto 2.0 friendo.
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>>1831893
>>1831900
So I guess it was good that I bought some ETH instead of BTC/both...
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>>1831871
you cant both a) think bitcoin is going to be taken over by ethereum, and b) think ethereum has close to the same amount of staying power that bitcoin has, without some serious cognitive dissonance.
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>>1831865
>>1829713
>>1829789

Curious, what is your definition of the "moon"? How much per unit until we are official lunar?
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>>1831886
if those 40 people have your reading comprehension then it means literally zero
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>>1831901
thats not what i'm saying, but exactly what people in this thread are. the levels of delusion from people bagholding ethereum is almost getting to levels bitcoin had in early 2014.

if you cant see the insanity of calling ethereum crypto 2.0 then youre beyond help.
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>>1831901
Yeah I was merrily agreeing. Get an Ethereum tshirt online like I did you'll be like the college kid who was proudly using Facebook when people were going crazy with their HTML designs on MySpace
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>>1831908
Seems you'd have to believe both to believe either. Why is it so unfathomable that a breakout sector no one saw coming (crypto) that fostered %10,000 gains would never be the target of evolutionary advances? That a new system would come along to build upon it's success and demand while addressing it's fundamental flaws? That's literally what happens with every breakout innovation ever for all of human history. Original tech is extremely vulnerable to improvements. If it happened once, it can and will happen again. Stop being emotional about your BTC bag and get with the next step.
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>>1831930
Basically this. BTC had it's day. It's gone as far as it can go. Theres really nothing else to be done with it.
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>>1829074
>Tfw could have bought ETH at $8 but bought Monero at $18 instead because I thought ETH was too unstable
JUST
Should I hold out or is it time to jump ship?
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>>1831930
Ikr like people would pay more for DVDs than bluray
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Is it save to have ETH at myetherwallet and access it via the Private Key?
t. Newcoiner
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>>1831930
i'm not saying it is or it isnt, only the simple fact that if bitcoin is goign to be imminently taken over by some other crypto, then every altcoin, including ethereum, is in an even more vulnerable state now, and has even less of a chance to exist in the same amount of time.

and you can't look at ethereum and not see why a replacement would be welcome, no DAO, no fork which still has a very large market cap, no history of core failures in the scripting language, an even fairer launch with no premining, no shady practices with the ethereum foundation, etc. its ripe for replacement, and if what you say is true, the only thing stopping that is network effects and marketcap, of which ethereum has significantly less than bitcoin.

>>1831943
welcome to crypto, i can see you're new here. try not to lose everything buying tops and selling bottoms.
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>>1831963
>new here
i've been in it since 2009 kiddo. you were probably still in middle school in 09.
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>>1831951
I know Gemini exchange says on their site it uses cold storage for security of digital assets
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>>1831969
so you're a multi millionaire then? what the fuck are you doing buying ethereum at $19 if you've been here since 2009?

you're not fooling anyone.
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Eth currently is a second chance for if it had not been for the etc split resulting from the dao hack it would have been $200 or more by now conservatively so now then it's like this $20 ATH is not really representative of the Ethereum true value but merely shows that Ethereum is reborn with the EEA support and can now continue to its true heights as it would have technologically and economically had it not been for the hack before. Basically you're getting a bargain at the moment on Ethereum
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>>1831995
Do you expect ETH to drop in the near future so I can get a few more coins for my shekel?
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>>1831995
on the contrary, the true value of ethereum and its fundamentals dropped pretty significantly after the DAO issues and subsequent fork/shady dealings. these kind of issues are fundamentals.

ethereum would definitely be higher today if it wasnt for that, but don't forget even if the DAO hadn't been drained the community at large was still pretty unhappy with some of the shady proposals from slock.it and it wouldnt have been a good thing to have so much ether given to shady individuals like that, especially not for the long term price of ether.
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My assumption is that most people who made any serious money with BTC didn't expect to. That is, it was largely accidental. They weren't experienced with currency exchange or stocks or anything like that. They just bought a lotto ticket. As such, that inexperience is leading to an emotional unwillingness to let go of the idea that BTC is unstoppable. Meanwhile, smart money has been watching what happened with BTC alarmingly and is ready to back the next serious contender. It so happens that ETH is just that. Pic related speaks for itself. You can't look at that and say ETH is just another altcoin like Doge or Monero.

Another factor we're seeing are BTC late-adopters who perhaps bought in around $700-$800 expecting gains like the 2011 holders got. A challenger angers them, as does the notion that they're missing yet another wave. On the other hand, you really don't see a lot of hate from ETH to BTC. I think BTC was awesome and I'd kill to have bought in at current ETH prices. I don't want to see anyone lose money on it. I hope it continues to grow! But from a leverage standpoint if I have $2000 I'm interested in dipping into crypto, does it make more sense to buy 1.5 BTC or 100 ETH? I don't share the emotional attachment but I'm trying to rationalize it.
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i hate ether

however

researching the product im afraid

>ether is google
>ether is facebook
>ether is the next thing

maybve not now but by 2020 i think unless something else better and more simple comes along, ether will be it

imagine ether comes out with its own OS phone, takes over android

i will start to buy it slowly, because i could of bought btc at 10 cents, 1 dollar, and 10 dollars, but didnt.

i have no regrets about not buying it yet, because like i said i dont like it

but compared to other cryptos, once it beomces mainline, there will be no wild west of cryptos.

RIP.

enjoy this while we can boys

k
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>>1832022
It's dropping right now

You should figure out if you want get in now or go for another investment tbqh
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>>1832032
>i hate ether
>however
>researching the product im afraid
>ether is google
>ether is facebook
>ether is the next thing

So maybe instead of being an emotional child, take your BTC gains and segway them to what you see as the next wave. You "hate Ether"? Make some money, fool!
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>>1832043
Cam you explain how buy this things. Im a dummy.
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>>1832043
If been buying it for 2 days now. But my daily limit is 100 shekel and I currently can't raise my limit. I'm just hopeing it stays stable for a few more days or even drops so I can buy some more :^)
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>>1832022
Dipped to 18.95 on cuckbase.
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>>1832031
i think you've got it backwards friend. most of the people i know who are heavily into ethereum or most other altcoins are doing so because they missed the boat on bitcoin, and they're simply looking for anything that might give them the kind of gains that they missed out on.

to call people investing in ethereum now "smart money" is pretty shortsighted. most people in bitcoin simply arent even aware of ethereum, where as the altcoin holders are constantly suffering from short-man syndrome, and looking for every chance to bash bitcoin as some kind of failed tech.

this sounds a lot to me like the rationalizing i'm talking about.

>>1832022
its down 10% already, good chance the uptrend has ended for a little while, but it could resume at any time if bitcoin starts to drop. jumping in or out now so close to the ETF is just a gamble, plain and simple.
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>>1832065
>>1832066
Ok thx I have to wait 3 more hours to buy the next batch on my exchange :(
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>>1832054
Either coinbase or kraken

>>1832059
I'm pretty sure that it's going to raise in a more healthy way after the dip.
I'll definately get some more in the next days and just forget about it for the rest of the year
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>tfw you bought 699 ether a years ago
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>>1832031
and youre right about the leverage standpoint, bitcoin right now is a "buy" for the whales, ethereum doesnt currently have the liquidity to absorb much of the huge buys and sells that bitcoin gets. but if youre starting out now and thinking of something to buy, i would go 70% ETH, 20% XMR, and 10% ETC as a fuck it why not.

>>1832072
you've already saved 10%, if you wait for a reversal and end up only saving 5% its still better than if you bought in a few hours ago. so don't worry about it.
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>tfw just bought 20 ether

this shit better skyrocket to match bitcoin
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>>1832075
>>1832088
Yeah I can't wait to buy it as fast as possible and then wait a few years. Even if it drops significantly I don't really care. I can wait.
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How much will it fall today and next days?
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>>1832113
Literally no one knows. If someone thinks they know exactly what's gonna happen they're lying.
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>>1832052
thats what i said

i hate it, but recognize its potential

and with that enjoy these early days, because it may be about 7-8 years old, but we are in the infant stage still
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Told you it's a pump and dump but you guys knew better. Enjoy your losses.
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>>1832142
How is it a pump and dump when it literally has institutional backing now?
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>>1831909
Moon = The Flippening (when ETH is worth more than BTC)
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>>1832142

Talk is cheap. People be like I'll wait for a dip. Dip comes, oh no it's a "pump and dump" nevermind then they beg for coins when it's uptrending. Rewards are earned and so are consequences of inaction.
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>>1832131
Obviously it's all based on informations, potential and mostly speculations, but the long term potentials and unhealthy raise of ETH in the last days are facts
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>>1832158
117 billion huh? dont forget ethereum's market cap is inflated by the huge premine, there will never be more coins mined than there were generated by vitalik for himself and to be sold for bitcoin, so its doesnt make any sense to compare price of individual tokens.
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>>1832142
>Enjoy your losses

Surely you mean enjoy the dip so that I can buy more for a lower price
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>>1831963
Agree with this. m8LAK8+h what would you buy in the coming weeks? Anything new coming up?

>>1831969
>I have been here since 2009!
>implying age equals wisdom or success
>>
The real issue with ETH is the shady stuff that happend in the past, possible incompetence of the development team and the unknown future plans of the banks/backers.

I still highly trust in the mid term raise, but then again, nobody's unbiased :^)
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>>1832142
Oh look back at 19 dollars!
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Man I wonder if people would have bought bitcoin when it was in the up and downs around $20 or if they were like pump and dump man blah blah blah. Ethereum is undervalued. When was the last time you saw a commercial for bitcoin on television compared to the number of times you've seen a microsoft commercial? And that latter is supporting Ethereum with many other giants. So take your pic in the short term obviously people with deep pockets are making gains on the ups and downs but the little guy should think about holding in for the moon or btfo.
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>>1832184
SWEET! to the moon baby some say this dip is what you call a bear trap.
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>>1832184
Nocoiners will always be eternally mad that they didn't buy the dip.
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>The dip is always while I'm in traffic
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>>1832197

Will we see $100 by year end? I'm so antsy in the pantsy
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Hey dudes so I bought 5 ethereum today and i wanted to test tranferring to MIST so i sent .01 ether to it.

I entered the account code and it didnt show up... how long does it take?
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>>1832181
honestly, aside from maybe picking up some more eth if it drops below ~0.013, i'm staying out until the ETF news drops. trying to set up anything for longer than a week is unnecessarily risky when there's such a significant binary event coming up.

>>1832185
the success of ethereum is directly related to the success of microsoft? are you serious? i hope you're not trading based on this assessment.
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>>1832168
Those "premined" coins fed and housed Vitalik, Gavin and a wordlwide team of twenty to fifty people at a time for three years now. Do you think the guy was gonna push the blockchain revolution forward by sleeping under a bridge in SF?
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>>1832241
how many did he premine?
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>>1832210
If you sent from an exchange there may be an addiitonal verification step before they'll transfer (for security). Check the email you registered on the exchange. If its all good - around an hour.
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>>1832245
Ask and you shall receive, here is a detailed overview of Ethereum Sale in 2014
https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/08/08/ether-sale-a-statistical-overview/

Depending on its adoption by the business it may be the greatest public "IPO" in history
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>>1832241
you should look up how high their expenses were. i believe they were hitting over six figures a month in expenditure. vitalik also liquidated over a third, i think, of his ethereum for a few million early on before the second wave of the bubble last year.
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Just woke up and saw my buy orders at $18 and $17 got filled on kraken. Anyone know how low it dipped?
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Does the mist app take ages to update or something? Why is it not displaying my ethereum?
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Just sold at 19 bux after buying at $9 feelsgoodman
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>>1832273
17,5$ i reckon
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>>1832278
look at the top, xxxx blocks left, looks like it's syncing to me. theres not much reason to download the entire blockchain of any coin unless youre running a node or youre forced to in the case of xmr.
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>>1832257
No shit sherlok, living in SF and being a bank for a worldwide team is expensive.

>vitalik also liquidated over a third, i think, of his ethereum for a few million early on before the second wave of the bubble last year.
I dont see an issue
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>>1832293
lol I have no idea what I'm doing

How do I actually withdraw or send ETH

I have a password, but is that specific to a particular app?

Someone send me step by step instructions for how to send, plus your wallet, and I'll transfer you 1 ETH as a test
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>>1832283
>not waiting till it goes to orbit
Sad!
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can you handle the ride to the moon?
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>tfw 19 was the floor
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Anyone else notice the highs are usually at night and the "lows" in the mornings?
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>>1832306
I'll buy after the next dip this was a nice little moon mission I only care about profits not much feels
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>>1832304
What app is it?

If its coin base mobile app

1. Swipe open the left hand menu

2. Select eth wallet

3. Upper right hand corner theres an icon, click it

4. It should open a camera to scan qr codes

5. At the top select "my address"

6. It should have a qr code for you and an address.

7. Select copy and you can paste it anywhere

0x3Ae06A91bd8C1e51e3A620Dfc48bC2395d473138
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>>1832304

>https://medium.com/@attores/step-by-step-guide-getting-started-with-ethereum-mist-wallet-772a3cc99af4#.7ikyhmfsh

SEND.
Put in the address of the receiving party.
Choose the amount of ether you want to send.


0xb508dDEa33239f831f71743A86118Bad31B04699
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>>1832304
>>1832313
just use coinbase, its easy.
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>>1832309
We don't know what morning is and night is in your timezone, stupid.
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>>1832314
OK, but I bought them via bitpanda

And for whatever reason there's no way to sell eth via bitpanda

So if I create a coinbase account can I import my wallet to coinbase?
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>>1832296
the point is they arent shy about extracting every bit of value from their company at every opportunity, even if it goes into immoral/illegal ground.
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ive have always believed bitcoin to be a total scam/joke

based on what I've read the last few days, ETH seems different

SPINNING UP
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>>1832327
what do you mean withdraw or send? if you have ethereum i would just use something my myetherwallet.com to send them. youve just got to put your private key in or connect via hardware wallet, etc. you don't need a full download of the blockchain, especially not ethereum's which is one of the most painful to sync.

what are you selling for, fiat or some other crypto? if you want $s and coinbase is what you want to use youre going to need to get verified with them, then you'll get an address which you can use something like myetherwallet to send from your account to the account coinbase gives you, and from there you can sell on their platform. if you just want bitcoin or another crypto you can use something like shapeshift or sign up for poloniex.
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>>1832340
>based on what I've read the last few days, ETH seems different

elaborate
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>>1832340
ethereum has significantly more scammy behavior going on behind the scenes, i havent heard of any bitcoin core developers trying to steal money from another chain or force hardforks because of personal financial motivations. if youre looking for a high moral chain there are much better ones to choose from. people pick ethereum because they're trying to make money, nothing more.
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>>1832347
OK, how do I connect via hardware wallet? What is my private key?

I'm sure if I set it up via coinbase in the first place it would be easier, but I didn't. This is what I did:

I set up a wallet via mist, using a password. This gave me the wallet address 0xBA2680EaE92d3F56eDAc36D449226033010Cdb27

Then I bought 13 ETH via bitpanda and sent it to the wallet address I created in mist

If you check online, this wallet address has 13 ETH, so that's fine

But bitpanda doesn't have an option to sell ETH. So my question is how do I actually withdraw the ETH into BTC, USD, whatever?
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>>1832362
Youre making this way more complicated than it needs to be.
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>>1832363
OK, please simplify then

There is a wallet with ID 0xBA2680EaE92d3F56eDAc36D449226033010Cdb27

It has 13 ETH in it

All I have is the wallet address and a password

How do I withdraw the ETH into USD or BTC based on this information alone - wallet and password?
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>>1832362
i told you above how you can sell into $s or cryptos. you can either wait for mist to finish syncing (bad) or export your private key and use it in something like myetherwallet.com to make transactions. just be careful you dont send it to any other website, and keep it safe because with it anyone can take your money.
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>>1832370
lol I dunno nerd I use kraken to trade, coinbase to convert to USD, and myetherwallet for offline cold storage
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>>1832372
Thanks. How do I export my private key?
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>>1832340
When you get national press despite the fact that you haven't even become mainstream yet you gotta at least think maybe there's something to it:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/business/dealbook/ethereum-alliance-business-banking-security.html
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>>1832370
apparently myetherwallet works with mist wallet files, so if you can find wherever that is stored you can upload that to myetherwallet and use your password to unlock it and send from there.
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>>1832379
im curious what with all the shilling youre doing, how big of an investment do you have in ethereum? four, five, six figures?
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>>1832395
no I'm like 513 ETH Moon rider

average 14.4 entry because I got on a legit exchange (Gemini) that took some days to verify all was legit but I was interested from and began at 12.7 after learning about ETH at 11.3

Honestly wants 4chan to benefit from ETH early days since we memed Trump into the white house on pol.
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>>1829727
They at least guarantee you the coins at the price you pay. Even though it takes a week for you to get them.
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>>1829735
This m8, don't spend money you can't afford to lose most of. If you have 1000 extra bucks laying around then it can't hurt.
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>>1832404
i figured at much, its always the mid to late adopters that go hard.
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>>1832404
So when are those big names>>1832031
starting to make a difference in Ethereum world?

Is it still worth buying in at this time?
I only have a coupe of coins in ETH, not sure if I should make a bigger investment.
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mfw only 11 ETH and stuck with limit
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>>1832419
couple things I saw that helped me with my decision:

https://youtu.be/2_ERX4K_RME?t=7m3s

After minute 7:03 He says private blockchain Quorum and public ETH blockchain would be interacting so yes ETH is the new currency of the future in the eyes of the corporate visionaries.

As competition amongst businesses in many industries stiffens, blockchain technology is likely to become even more in-demand in the years to come. While there are many competing blockchain programs out there, with the backing of the EEA by so many high profile companies, it stands to reason that Ethereum could become the go-to as more businesses seek to incorporate the technology.

https://youtu.be/-SMliFtoPn8 [Remove]
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>>1832419
reading what some crazies write here, guesstimating etherium to be like bitcoin in a couple years, anything you invest will be worth x50 in a few years
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>>1832435
Ethereum likely won't reach Bitcoin numbers. I'm seriously doubting that its going to disappear like every other alt coin. Just the fact that its traded on coinbase will keep it in the limelight.
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>>1832348
it's very complicated, but the most salient points:

the ultimate goal of crypto curriencies (imho) is to replace public sector currencies with private sector currencies. not because of libertarian ideas, but because private sector systems always work better than public sector systems, due to their need to generate profit (true economic value)

bitcoin has appreciated to 1250ish because it can replace/supersede fiat currencies in one aspect, the ability to transfer money, particularly in terms of laundering without government knowledge. what bitcoin is basically a vechicle for chinese citizens to get money out of their country. it is AMAZINGLY good at this, and we should all tip our fedoras in respect to bitcoin in this regard

however, where bitcoin has failed in replacing fiat is in crowding out conventional purchases of regular commerce, where it has with a few meme exceptions totally failed. five years ago bitcoin was irrelevant to normal transactions, that is basically still true today. why this is im not sure, i think it's a combination of inflexible protocol and seedy reputation

ETH in contrast is extremely flexible, it's proven ability to evolve in the face of crisis proves that, and the fact that conventional corps are buying in is very positive sign to me, a conventional investor who buys ETFs and does regular non-insane things with his equity/capital

ultimately another crpto could eat ETH lunch but i think the myspace/facebook metaphor is very apt. ETH is the REAL DEAL in terms of private sector currency and if they succeed they could capture market share and crowd out rivals quickly.

>t. not a shill, literally a nocoiner who is interested in buying ETH
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is there an exchange where I can just swap BITC for ETH without having to deal with limits and payment setups etc? Just pure BTC->ETH or the other way round?
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>>1832338
If he sold 100% and went *poof* I would agree with you. He is a millionaire now but instead of living a wolf of wall street life he's digging in ethereum code
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>>1832456
its not vitalik but the whole company though, is my point. just something to be aware of while they keep trumpeting the whole "ethereum is not a store of value".
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>>1832447
>ETH has proven its ability to evolve in the face of crisis
Thats the issue, bitcoin didnt even have a crisis because it is well designed from the start

Also ETH itself will not be implemented as business solution - the underlying technology will. That means ETH may be left to the wolves in the end.
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>>1832467
the problem wasnt even with ethereum, which is the real issue. they added fork baggage to the entire currency because of croneyism and special relationships they had with the slock.it people. if it was actually a core issue with ethereum that needed to be fixed, and the side effect was that the DAO failure couldn't have happened, it would be a different story and not shady at all.
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>>1832467

>Also ETH itself will not be implemented as business solution - the underlying technology will. That means ETH may be left to the wolves in the end.

https://youtu.be/2_ERX4K_RME?t=7m3s

After minute 7:03 He says private blockchain Quorum and public ETH blockchain would be interacting
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>>1832467
>Also ETH itself will not be implemented as business solution - the underlying technology will.
this is my concern too. anyone have an answer to this?
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>>1832481
Also mine. Ive read about numerous companies "working with blockchain technology" which somehow gets translated as them using Ethereum specifically when that's not necessarily the case.
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>>1832467
>Also ETH itself will not be implemented as business solution - the underlying technology will.

that's definitely the biggest risk.
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>>1832481
From Ethereum reddit page:

Besides the speculative value given by the market and the value of the technology, Ethereum has an "operative value". Every operation on the Ethereum network uses "gas". This is a unit that measures the processing (electricity, cpu, gpu, drive...) needed to make it happen and to register it on the ledger. Gas is paid in ETH. So there is an intrinsic values in Ether that bitcoin and many other alt-coins don't have at this moment. More operations and transactions happening in Ethereum more gas is needed, thus more ETH.

[–]janjko 3 points 3 months ago

Plus it also can be used as a currency, just like Bitcoin.
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>>1832481
i believe using ETH as a quasi stake/share/currency in the Ether system will incentivize its adoption

ultimately the point of this consortium is to create an ecosystem, what better way than allowing people to "buy in"
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>>1832481
to just be safe assume what they mean is private chain usage. and if they mean public chain usage, assume that they won't be touching the ether token in any way. this shouldnt matter because the price is driven by people thinking they will, not whether they actually do. and for anyone "investing" thats all that matters.
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>>1832481
Go to the Ethereum Project's webpage and read it. Gas is paid in ETH, essentially.
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>>1832492
If you're looking for short term pump n dumps, sure.
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To everyone wondering if ETH itself has a value:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/5df27m/i_got_my_friend_excited_about_cryptocurrency_and/
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>>1832478
Parrot some more, perhaps it will become true when you repeat it enough times.

>>1832477
So.... what you saying is the DAO could have been prevented? Or solved in other way than hard-fork? Or that they used the attack as casus belli for hard fork while the real cause was they wanted to unscrupulously reach their selfish goals?
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>>1832497
the whole EEA is a several year piece of giant speculation. this stuff won't resolve into short term pump and dumps.
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>>1832505
The Long Con
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>>1832309
Europe or USA? I always think the price is going up at night (Europoor here) when Amerifats are buying like insane.
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>>1832503
the dao could have been prevented if the slock.it people (many of which worked on the ethereum codebase i believe) actually tested and audited their contract. nothing in ethereum caused the bug, so they had to break consensus just to "recover" the funds, or else they risked losing money from the ethereum they owned and the personal investments and reputation many of them staked on the DAO.
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>>1832517
USA here
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>>1832454
Poloniex.
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How much Ethereum do you guys own? Did anyone get in at the presale and is now a millionaire?
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>>1832554
no those guys are on ethtrader reddit page. when ETH was 28 to 38 cents.

I'm 513 ETH and came in at 14.4 learned about eth around 12.7 price.
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>>1832554
18 eth... I've spent all I can and feel a bit demotivated when people like >>1832590
posts...
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>>1832601
i guess i wont say then, but its not like other people owning more makes yours worth any less. just dont get greedy and end up trading it all away, because thats a lot less fun.
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>>1832601
Gotta be grateful for what you got I can say the same about dudes I've seen with 5,000 eth that are sitting on $100k already However you should only go in as much as you think you're willing to lose since those guys either trade the dip and highs well or watch their money go up and down by the tens of thousands whereas maybe you see it go up and down by 5 to 10 dollars.
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>>1832619
I think it makes people buy more when they see others have more, which increases the price. So I guess it's a good thing.

>>1832624
It's the same feeling as when I see someone who became a millionaire because they were dumb enough to buy BTC at 1 USD. Like that fucktard at /pol/ who's a multimillionaire NEET and posts screencaps of his accounts/wallets.
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>>1832601
Yeah it feels like a hit in the guts but then dont you live in area with relatively low cost of living?
I have only 600€ worth of cryptos but then with 1000€ per month one can live quite comfortably around here.
Its all about that perspective.
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>>1832645
>then dont you live in area with relatively low cost of living?
No, I'm a poor student living in a country with the one of the highest cost of living in the world. Why did you guess that? I just want to catch a break, earn 20k USD in crypto so I can buy a shitty cabin in the forest and live there.
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>>1832624
i think in the past week ive had my overall total move over 50k and i havent traded shit. you have to quickly become jaded to stuff like that or you'll go insane.

>>1832645
thats why so many people "retire" to se asia where everyone is dirt poor and non-tourist shit is cheap.

>>1832661
you could probably build one for less
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>>1832661
If you have high cost of living you also have good income or the option to leave. Cabin wont solve your problems either, I doubt you can get self-sufficient one for 20k.
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>>1830479
are you me? I about to just go ahead and drop $500 right now/.
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>>1833164
Oh oh oh but those summer nights... tell me more tell me more. Goodnight guys
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