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What is it that makes successful people successful? Is it just luck?

Arnold wanted to be a body builder, and became the best of all time.
He wanted to become an actor and was, in his prime, the highest paid actor of all time.
He wanted to become a politician and he became governor of California, the highest position he could conceivably hold.

How do we get to be successful like this?
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>>1825951
He had a good work ethic and some luck.
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Arnie had the genetics and drive to be the best

You can't just wake up one morning and obtain this no matter how hard you try

Arnie also thrived in his bodybuilding and alpha male acting career in a time before all white men were vilified.

How many Rambo / predator / commando movies are there today? The Jews are busy pushing the strong womyn / benevolent nigger / evil white man meme
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>>1825951
You don't, you need to manage your expectations. Everyone has the capacity to be successful but everyone's peak is also determined by what >>1825968 /pol/tard said minus the "um a victim rehetoric." For every Arnold there's millions who don't "make it."

Just try to make progress every day and you'll find success.
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as someone who was born into this world inside a lower middle class family riddled with various problems, I have experienced "bad luck" all my life. Everyone who actually knows me acknowledges "Anon, you have the worst luck out of anyone I've ever met". As a form of spirituality I guess you could say, I Have developed a belief that there is a form of "Cosmic karma" all around us. For all good there must be equal bad, but it doesn't necessarily have to be balanced individually. I have tons of bad luck, in turn someone out there is sleeping with super models and won the lotto after spending 100 bucks on stock that rose 10,000% immediately after.

with that said, over the years I've noticed despite bad luck, "success" is still achievable, and it is severely influenced by the amount of your drive, and willpower.

while my bad luck slows me down, I've learned as long as I don't let it stop me the success I'm after always inches closer to my grasp until I achieve it. This has held true in every single thing i've ever done and accomplished.

The key is to not let shit stop you. Sadly everyone has a breaking point in any situation, and some hit that point much sooner and easier than others.

I believe stories like arnolds life is an example of what happens when someone blessed with "good luck" also has the willpower to match
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>>1825968
This


There is a literally movie out right now that has white people wishing they were black so bad that they have a surgeon lure and kill black men by removing their brains and transplanting their white man brain into the now empty skull of the black man.

Why couldn't it be a black woman luring white men? Why does it have to have some weird race component? Why is the nigger main character allowed to say "I get nervous when too many white people are around"? What would happen if a white person said that?
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>>1825951
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>>1825951
Have a goal that you really want to achieve, not some superficial shit.

For example a lot of people want to be rich and then pick whatever random meme field they can think of first, when they don't have interest in that field and are only in it for financial reasons.

So basically, find what you enjoy doing. Then become the best at it. It shouldn't be hard to develop discipline to get good at something you like doing.

For some of us, being successful is out of the question because there are people who are more naturally motivated in whatever field we choose.

Arnold became successful in bodybuilding because that became the focus of his life. The money, rewards, and praise came after.

Unfortunately, most of society finds joy in saturated industries and lacks self-discipline. You can't get rich watching Netflix.
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>>1826133
I understand your desire to assert your racial identity, but throwing around "nigger" is a very misguided approach. It just, to most people, validates the stereotypes being spread about you. That's the trick.

Find other ways, smarter ways, better ways to advocate white racialism.
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>>1826117

Saved this. Second paragraph really spoke to me. I am in a similar situation
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>>1825968
I think you're not in touch with the real world. The predator/rambo/commando movies are the Marvel movies today. Instead of larger than life characters we literally have larger than life characters (superheroes). These roles are mostly played by (muscular) white males.
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>>1826117
Everyone has this "bad luck" they speak off. Just not everyone shows it. Thinking you're a special snowflake with the me vs the world mentality is a childish mentality you will hopefully outgrow eventually. Everyone has to overcome adversity to get where they want to get. In the big picture you are on the "lucky" end of this "Cosmic Karma" compared to the billions of really poor people that can't even afford basic hygiƫne and food/water.
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>>1826117
>as long as I don't let it stop me the success I'm after always inches closer to my grasp until I achieve it. This has held true in every single thing i've ever done and accomplished.

Seriously, this is the only part you should have typed.
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>>1826117
i hope you have a soothing voice. i wish i could just sit here and listen to you talk.
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>>1825951
Because he is a big strong charismatic man, are you? Being that he has gotten a bunch of confidence boosts through his lifetime which in turn fuel his success. The snowball effect works for both failure and success.
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>>1825951
>How do we get to be successful like this?
I will never understand
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>>1826173
:) glad it helped in some way

>>1826245
I don't really care to get into a pissing match about this with you, that wasn't the point and you're welcome to have whatever opinion you want about that detail, idc. The point was to just explain even with people who meet unforeseen difficulties left and right (ie me), success is still ultimately driven by determination and will.

>>1826250
sleeping pills + late night typing shouldn't be a thing. Ohh well.

>>1826285
like Barry White meats Morgan Freeman
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb0Fo6-_b3g
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>>1826415
It's fucking unbelievable isn't it. A whole world of mistresses to choose from and he chose this thing.
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>>1825951

He had genetics and accomplished task A.

The other tasks fell into place because of A

It is amazing how the common folk miss the obvious went it comes to success. If success was because of hard work then half the people on this planet would be successful.

If it was due to luck you would see a standard distribution much like the lottery. And surprise, surprise this is exactly what you see.
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>>1826506
maybe he is ....


.... a terminator.

no normal functioning human male of his physique would fuck a goblin, unless he's a robot
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40% good ideas. 50% dedication and 10% luck.
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>>1826506
Have a feeling he knew what he was doing
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A few thoughts:
1) Arnie is a literal metaphor of mind-over-matter. He sat in his bedroom as a teenager looking at pictures of muscle men, and said "I wanna be that" and then literally used the sheer power of will and a few weights to make his body like that.

He could take an image, a fantasy in his head and manipulate his own body into the reality of it.

2) Luck is hard to quantify, if you're born into a middle class house in a OECD country and get a good education are you lucky? Probably luckier than a Cogonese child soldier. If you don't have Muscular Dystrophy you're lucky right?
I don't worry about "luck", I can't control it, and I don't know if I'm lucky or not.

3) Actually you *can* control luck. If I leave a book outside and I say "nah i'll get it later" and it rains and makes it all ripply and waterdamaged, was that bad luck or just a result of me making a bad decision? Well if you think about the thousands of decisions you make over the course of your life that bring you closer and further away from your "goals" you are either increasing your chances of achieving success or tempting bad luck and moving further away from it.

4) Once Arnie was Mr. Universe, he had it made... he had fame. that's all you need to be successful. Look at those fucktard Kardashians, their name is basically a license to print money. Become famous and the roadblocks to success become a lot easier to pass.
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YES< I am always alive, I am, alive inside you now, my arms and limbs will come out of you and they will run around carrying you with them as I emerge in my final form from your bloated, still barely living form, and you will go "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and then my limbs will come in and out of you to play your lungs like an accordian and then I will erupt from you, you will be no more but I will be Perfect.
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>>1826168

nigger
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>>1826506
>marrying beautiful american women

Silly anon. Those are for fucking. You never marry them.
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>>1825951
>What is it that makes successful people successful? Is it just luck?
I think it's the ability to manage one's own motivation. For example, the more you do something the more your motivation towards that activity increases (sidenote: doesn't apply to my current job).
>Arnold wanted to be a body builder, and became the best of all time.
I've heard somewhere that the thought of going to america made him happy. It was a great source of motivation.
>He wanted to become an actor and was, in his prime, the highest paid actor of all time.
I guess it was in his personality to want to become famous. I bet he knew from experience how to get motivated.
>He wanted to become a politician and he became governor of California, the highest position he could conceivably hold.
Same as above.
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>>1825951
high IQ and social skills.
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>>1826245
you didnt read his whole post carefully
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>>1825956
You mean good genetics and luck.
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>>1825975
being a wagecuck isn't success, its coping
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>>1826245
cope
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>>1826600
>1) Arnie is a literal metaphor of mind-over-matter. He sat in his bedroom as a teenager looking at pictures of muscle men, and said "I wanna be that" and then literally used the sheer power of will and a few weights to make his body like that.
No, he used his superior genetics to AMOG the competition.
After doing so, he got spoon feed with a million job offers cause fame from mr olympia 7 times.

Stopped reading there.
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>>1826510
incorrect

As stated before, determination and will is what brings success, but theres a caveat to this:

HOW you utilize that determination and will is just as important as having it.

most of the "hard workers" that you refer to that don't have "success", is because they failed to utilize that drive properly, and are more than likely allowing someone else to utilize it for them. This is the mistake most of the world makes because its how the world has been designed over hundreds of years. Most people wind up giving their success to someone higher up on some corporate ladder.

either that, or they fuck up and decide to focus it in the wrong area/way. "I'm the fucking best...at masturbating and drawing furries without monitizing it"
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>>1826117
This is true. Some of us really are just dealt a shit hand, but you're not out of the game until you fold.
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>>1826117
dude, thanks.i feel you, and i wish you and the people like you would achieve bliss.
i also understand, the fight is constant, but don't forget to live. i forgot and i gotta learn how not to get lost in the fight.
all the best my dude :)
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>>1825951
Its a hunger inside that can only be satiated with accomplishment, thats what leads successful people to success. Especially the ones coming from poverty/bad circumstances or those who have their backs against the wall.
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>>1826146
Here's the thing, I like money, but my passion is acting. You think I can really make it in today's Hollywood as a lanky white man? When there are "tougher" guys a million times better than me, and a critically acclaimed movie literally has white men as the eeevil bogeyman whose purpose is to transplant themselves into the superior black man?

I can train for years acting, honing my skills, and still not be good enough for the big liberal circlejerk that is Hollywood. And before anyone goes >hurr durr racist, I'll have you know that I'm venting here, and I'm really not outward with these beliefs in real life, so my political ideals wouldn't stop me from getting roles, but Hollywood nepotism and agenda-pushing sure would.
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>>1826146

>or example a lot of people want to be rich and then pick whatever random meme field they can think of first, when they don't have interest in that field and are only in it for financial reasons.

Yep, that's where everyone get buttfucked, too bad I also don't like anything besides money to survive.

I tried CS but it's just boring as everything else.
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>>1827935
think you listen to pol too much. Yes, muh diversity is real, but hollywood is still for now very white dominated. those hollywood libs are only sjw with their tongues, they dont want too many nigs in their shit either because audience abroad are racist
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>>1827054
Oh hey there mr roleplayer. I'm sure you're just a shining paragon of success.

Now go get your tendies from mother before they get cold.
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>>1827935
> You think I can really make it in today's Hollywood as a lanky white man?
It's totally possible, yes. Be a character actor. Half of sitcoms have lanky white men like Jon Cryer, the guys from Workaholics, Philidelphia, Seinfeld... list goes on

>When there are "tougher" guys a million times better than me
Tom Cruise wasn't exactly the best actor (he's even short and has a big nose!), he was likable, marketable, but I don't think anyone was gonna put him on the same shelf as Brando, or Daniel Day-Lewis, or Von Sydow.
In other words; don't worry about it. You don't need to be the "best" to make it in Hollywood

> and a critically acclaimed movie literally has white men as the eeevil bogeyman whose purpose is to transplant themselves into the superior black man?
I'm not going to say that's racist, but I am going to say it's a victim complex. It's an excuse that you're using so you don't get disappointment that they don't let you into their little club. So you can either bitch or you can play the game better than anyone else:

Kevin Hart is hired simply because of his reach on social media. In fact he gets paid a bonus on top of his acting salary for it. You have to build a BRAND if you want to make it in Hollywood. That's what Arnie did, that's what Woody Allen continues to do: they know their audience, they pander to it, and take their money and go home.
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>>1827982
It just seems like they're trying to whit us down little by little, and they're being less subtle with their hatred of us. It seems as if you're not constantly talking out of your ass with how baaad whites are, you barely have a shot with a speaking role. It's surprising to see how many people have been in a semi-viral commercial and now think they're such hot shit and the world needs to know how much they support whatever liberal agenda is being pushed this week. I don't want to say that they're all shills but at this point, it's really hard to tell.

Either way, they're trying to appeal to the Asian audience, right? I guess that means more Asians, but again as a lanky white I'm probably screwed.
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>>1826669
Yes, yes. Very funny.

I'm not saying "you can never say nigger." I'm just saying: be aware of how "normies" will misinterpret your intentions. There are better, more effective ways to communicate your racial and political beliefs.
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>>1827990
Thanks for the reply, anon. I guess I'm just disheartened because I've lived in Miami my whole life, and looking at the casting calls recently, it seems like you have to be gay, Latino, black, or a kid to get anything. Like I said, maybe it's just Miami.
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>>1828003
Yeah could just be a regional thing. Not sure what the industry is like over there, but makes sense that the casting calls reflect the demographics on the ground.

Anyway you need to find your "prototype" you need to find an actor who resembles your screen presence. I mean Jim Carrey's is Jerry Lewis. Billy Zane... Vin Diesel... every generation wants it's own Yul Brynner. I'm pretty sure the best thing to ever happen to Kevin James' career was when Chris Farley died.

Now these are really over the top examples, and as an actor you're probably thinking how much you'd hate to be shoehorned and type-cast, let alone poured into a mould that isn't your own... but then remember what John Cazale said about doing the same role in theater for decades: it's like being a great Opera singer, you refine it, and the role changes as you get older, the context of it changes as you look older, your voice changes and you bring the breadth of your life experience into it.

Also, you have to accept that it's the pact-with-thedevil you need to do if you want to make it. So find your prototype. Start building your brand. Get the names of all the casting directors in your area, or move to a area with more productions and research the shit out of the agencies and casting directors, and network network network.

Oh, and start a social media profile that meshes with your onscreen persona!
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>>1828031
Wow, this actually seems like good advice. Thank you, anon!
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>>1828041
You're welcome anon. Good to feel useful.
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