Kickstarter general

>>1821332
pretty easy, but do under $100k/. millions wouldn't work

>>1821332
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/06/feds-take-first-action-against-a-failed-kickstarter-with-112k-judgment/

Now fuck off.

>>1821332
it is far better to just produce shit though, like the mega-man crap

>>1821332
People giving anything to a kickstarter should be aware of what they're giving their money to and should understand the risks. Whatever they are essentially donating to could fall through and thus there would be no return for their money.

People should be held accountable for their money-giving decisions and not the kickstarter. That's just dumb.

>>1821332
Kickstarter: Tech's gift to Hollywood.

Hollywood Exec #1: "How do we profit from all these rabid fans who want sequels and retreads made, when these films aren't profitable?"

Hollywood Exec #2: "Have you heard about this 'Kickstarter' thing? Apparently, we can get THEM to pay for the movie, and just keep whatever profit it generates."

Hollywood Exec #1: "Get the fuck out of here. Really?"

>>1821332
An even better thing to do;

>Start indygogo campaign
>Selling a already designed and manufactured tech product sourced from China
>Produce slick looking video and company website
>Shill hard on all relevant forums/social media

Completely legit to do and you're essentially drop shipping and marketing. Some of these products don't even have slick or expensive videos, they're literally youtube poop level videos of pictures of the product, even renders sometimes. Kickstarter and Indygogo are as much places for people to find products as they're places for people to fund things.

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>>1821957
>Completely legit to do
What do you mean? It says on the Kickstarter website:

No projects that share things that already exist, or repackage a previously-created product, without adding anything new or aiming to iterate on the idea in any way.

All rewards must have been produced or designed by the project or one of its creators — no reselling things from elsewhere.

>>1821344
>implying American feds will be able to get me in my 3rd world shithole

>>1821332
Great vid man, can you do a video on Ethereum?

>>1823224

if your country cooperates with american law authorities, you'll be busted. believe me I know.

>>1823092
>All rewards must have been produced or designed by the project or one of its creators — no reselling things from elsewhere.

I don't believe this is the case with indiegogo. Can't be arsed to read there terms of service though.

>>1821332
Yeah pocket like 40-50% of the money. Spend the rest actually pursuing the project. If you can stretch it and show progress people will be throwing money at you.

Personally I've considered doing this too but I don't have enough experience in electronics/design to follow through with a meme product.

>>1821332
id do it, but you have to be open about your identity. you cant do anonymous kickstarted. id rather not be a public enemy

>>1824944
Wouldn't work anyway, the people OP is talking about meticulously planned every step

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/biz/ let's pool together our thinking and come up with a sure fire product. Maybe a dating app for betas or something?

Things that are popular:
Emoji
VR
Harambe
Trump
Feminism/multi-genders/other mental illnesses
Black Lives Matter

This shit is easy as fuck, what can we capitalize on?

>>1821625
this logic is interesting

if the world ran with this type of thinking then scams throughout history would have gotten away with it.

>>1821651
this is actually genius

the entire holywood film industry revolves around "will it be profitable?", if a film isnt going to make millions in profit it doesnt get made, which is only figured out through speculation

open funding for movie with estimated budget in mind, if results provide that + x million profit then get it into production

how isnt this a thing yet

>>1826574

Because films are expensive as fuck to make.

http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0611/why-movies-cost-so-much-to-make.aspx

Let's say you could raise $5 mill from kickstarter. At best that's going to cover 20% of your marketing budget, assuming you are just making a mediocre movie. On top of that you got another headache with backer rewards with dozens of idiots getting tours at the set, having dinner with writers etc. Just not worth it unless you are making some super low-budget crap.

>>1826565
>scams throughout history would have gotten away with it.

they have

>>1821344
Here's a better idea:

1) Raise money for something that's totally legal and hasn't been done before, only totally not viable. And keep a strict journal about it.

2) Repeat 1.

3) Write the book "Confessions of a kickstarter" and self-publish on Amazon.

4) Profit.

>>1827399
obviously it would need to be adjusted.

movie theaters / production companies could create "pre-purchase" ticket systems that you only get charged for upon completion of goal

it would remote the gamble of a movie flopping on box office while giving people what they want.

deadpool for example im sure would have been made 5ish years sooner htan it was with a system like that in place.

obviously i dont mean literally "fox studios opens a kickstarter", stop being silly

>>1821625
>People giving anything to a kickstarter should be aware of what they're giving their money to and should understand the risks.

I completely 100% agree.

>Whatever they are essentially donating to could fall through and thus there would be no return for their money.

Totally, 100% true. Undoubtedly true. I'm pretty fucking sure that every single person who gave 25 bucks to this project knew that there was a chance they could lose there money. And they accepted that risk.

>People should be held accountable for their money-giving decisions and not the kickstarter.

That's where you're wrong, kiddo. The kickstarter knowingly committed a crime, and deliberately ran off with the money to go spend it on bullshit. Just because people know that they might lose their money doesn't give the kickstarter the right to break the law. They lied, they told everyone that the money was for a 3d printer but they used it for a house. They are in the wrong for lying and stealing money. For instance, you know that when you give money to your landlord there is a risk that he could run off with your money. This is a risk you accept. So if your landlord takes your rent, kicks you out of your house and runs off with the money, is it YOUR fault? The landlord is the one breaking the law, and the law is very specific about what is considered a crime.

>>1821332
>run fake kickstarter for money
>pocket 10% of the money outright
>use the other 90% to make the product so no one gets suspicious
>fulfill the backer's rewards to show that it's "real"
>start a website to sell the product
>make even more money from new product sales

It's so crazy it just might work.

>>1825950
Bear with me:

Malic acid is the pure form of the sour taste. With it you can make incredibly sour candy, more sour than a car battery, 100x more sour than anything you've ever tasted.

Start a kickstarter for extremely sour candy, everyone will back it because they want to taste it. Brilliant idea or what?

>>1830037
This OP, scams are risky, and you will most likely feel like a piece of shit after you do it, but actually knocking out a decent product and making money, you will feel alpha as fuck.

>>1830237
To be honest in the end you'll probably end up making more money by delivering an actual product.

>>1830071
Sounds... shocking.

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>>1821332

What about this? pic related

>get to take pictures of bitches naked
>they think you're artistic and maybe sleep with you
>nudity is eye-catching
>rewards are low cost
>fat neckbeards will pay you for what is essentially shitty soft core porn
>money, power and women
>win-win

>>1821332
I live in an eastern europe country and Paypal doesn't support any of my banks.

How do I go about this? I can use Indiegogo, but the popularity is much lower than Kickstarter.

>>1832458
>I live in an eastern europe country and Paypal doesn't support any of my banks.


you don't live in eastern europe then lol

>>1832603
or I live in a cheap eastern europe country and go to make a bank account outside my country then simply use online banking. Of course if I ever need to take out money then I'll have to do it as rarely as possible.

Let's say you get some shit funded. How do you got about manufacturing whatever shit you're selling?

>>1833095
You probably have a meeting with the manufacturers, show them what you want, they then do it

>>1827409
Now I know why there are so many hoverboard kickstarters....

>>1830071
we already have warheads tho,

I'd like to try animation and video games, but those are insanely expensive and a total gamble if you can't tap into the right demographic and can't publish good enough.

>>1821332
I have no idea what the peachy printer even is but this guy is strangely therapeutic to watch

>TFW too smart to take IQ tests

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuMBmK5uksg

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