scammed for 20% VAT

>>1796525

What country are you in?

I'm in a trade and have an LLC. I wanna help you but your post is fucking complicated.

It sounds like you are saying that a client shorted you $8k?

I've had a client short me, and firstly this not something you let slip by. You address it right away and politely.

I think my email went something like:

"dear anon, this is XYZ company, on ________ date you were serviced the attached service (see attachment). The total fee came to ___________. To date I have received _______, leaving a remaining bill of ____________. I just wanted to make sure there is no confusion over the bill or the services provided, please call me at ________".

Then just keep going back and forth. Keep it polite. Sometimes these people are dealing with millions and just fucked up a (small) payment. My brother got overpaid $10k on a job and had to call the company to send them some money back.

But honestly, you need to be very very very sure they are trying to fuck you before going all legal mode. Because if it was a mistake, and you threaten to sue they are gonna blast your business.

Just get them on the phone.

>>1796525

Oh, and my story is kinda funny

> guy shorted me $100 on a job
> no big deal
> keep sending emails
> he keeps responding "check is in the mail"
> after my 5th email I decided to send him a threat email
> told him I would lien his home if he did not pay
> He puts a check in the mail 2 weeks later

For some retarded reason some people think they can get away with cheating people. Which is like driving into oncoming traffic, it's just a matter of time before you get crushed.

>>1796525

For future reference here is how you should handle contracts:

1) Go over the job in DETAIL with the customer, take your sweet time and look at every little thing they want or dont want, take notes
2) Write up a very detailed and accurate contract for everything
3) Get them to sign and get 20% down (or more it may depend on your industry)

As the job progresses if things change, write up a "change order" for the additional costs and have them sign it.

At the end print up a final contract that includes the remaining balance plus all the change orders.

>>1796525

One more thing, Take a lot of pictures. Before and afters, materials used.

If you do go to court these along with the contracts and any witnesses will be a slam dunk for you. Without pics your case can get very weak very fast.

Country is germany. I'm running my business on a similiar form of a LLC, the liability is capped at 25k€.

Ontopic:
Well the issue is complicated but ignoring the details the situation is like this
Of my total 80k due, i was only paid 72k.

The missing 8k is just a slip up by the client, because he calculated the VAT incorrectly.

There is no doubt by either me, nor the client that i am owed this money.
There is also no doubt that i will be getting the money because of the nature of the contract and the client being an official authority.
In the case that i am informing the client about the slip up, i will be immediately paid the 8k.

My issue is, i was owed this 8k in october.
I just noticed this mistake right now after going through my account.

So the missing 8k cost me around lets say another 2k from loss of earnings.

If i just inform the client of their mistake, i will get my money and probably an apology, but that does not bring me back the 2k his mistake cost me.

Now i am trying to come up with ways of enforcing this 2k without going to court, because that's usually not a feasible option. If it goes as far as going to court, the fees will eat up any potential earnings. There has to be found common grounds on a mutual basis.

>>1796834

Lol no.

You can't ask the client for 2k because you fucked up.

You need to apologize for just noticing now, but remind the client you are owed the money.

Email is best because their response will be admissable in court.

Just send the email then let us know what happens. And dont ask for the 2k that is a mistake.

>>1796864
Well the sad thing is that i'm paying horrendous fees for the most atrocious crap.

E.g. once your yearly revenue exceeds €500k, you are forced to file your vat taxing monthly instead of yearly. There is a 2 weeks extra time to file it, but whenever you miss the deadline you pay a €450 flat fee to the tax authorities, think that happened twice in 2016. These leeches are leaving you no air to breath. I have to squeeze the last bit out of every deal i do to make the cut. German fiscal laws really do have business owners in a stranglehold..

>>1796915

Sucks mate.

Euro socialism needs to end.

I have an LLC and thanks to tax deductions I paid almost nothing.