Blue collar workers of /biz/

Automation is a meme. Automated truck driving is not going to be viable for at least another ten to twenty years.

It's just something Bernout tards say to try to justify their basic income gibs me dats

The problem with trades is that it's extremely hard to break into them without knowing someone.

Being a complete noob hire as an apprentice at some company means you're going to probably spend two or three years just doing bitch work at somewhere around minimum wage.

>>1794151

I'm the tile guy, I post here weekly.

Tile and carpentry are both good. You don't need a special license and you can learn everything in 1 year.

Then just buy your equipment and get going.

Plumbing and Electrical are both more lucrative but you need certs and you have to be another mans bitch for years before you can start your own.

I have also heard HVAC is good but the same rules as the above 2 apply. And starting an HVAC company requires a LOT of expensive equipment, employees, etc.. So more risk involved.

If I could do it all over I'd do plumbing. The emergency calls are insane money. I think my buddy gets $2k or $3k for an emergency call.

If you knew somebody it'd be easier, contractors don't give a fuck who they hire for bitchwork though, you'll start with hooking up a shitload of receptacles, switches and light fixtures, and eventually move up to running wood and fixing with panel boxes, shit ain't hard, find a contractor near you, look up some YouTube videos and on that shit and show up with some good tools (Klein wiresnips, they're worth it), and just say you wanna work and kiss ass, also tell em you're trying to get your certification, even if you don't immediately intend to, they might start you hourly at a rate depending on where you are, but try to get on piecework (paid per house) with pepe that are fast and good and you're set

t. Did this shit for awhile before/during college, software engineer now

Started installing duct work at 17 then went to trade school to become a tech after realizing its shit i got my cdl and just started operating heavy equipment, best blue collar job imo 22 now btw

>>1794166
>Automated truck driving is not going to be viable for at least another ten to twenty years.

I'm hoping to work for well over 30 years though..

>>1794271
> got my cdl and just started operating heavy equipment, best blue collar job imo 22 now btw

What kind of stuff do you do specifically? I was gonna go to trade school, do the commercial driving program, and get a class 1 (semi) license, but I don't necessarily want to do OTR trucking. There's other shit you can do with that license like operate hydrovacs, or front-loading garbage trucks, etc. Also, the trade school I'm going to has a "heavy equipment program," but it isn't CDL, it's for stuff like excavators, graders, bulldozers, off-highway dump trucks, and so on. Do you think that is worth it?

>>1794166
Fully automated fleet cars will be here by 2022, no question. Taxis will be first, but trucks will follow soon after. They'll be for sale to the public by 2027.

People like you were arguing that computers would never be able to drive cars less than two years ago.

>>1794513
Thank you

People should really look back to see how fast technology moves.

The first iphone came out 10 years ago and everyone thought it was a $600 toy. Now nobody has a flip phone. Banking, shopping, travel can all be done with a phone.

HDTVs were like $5000 when they first came out, now they are like $200 on black friday.

Automated cars are not a gimmick like 3DTV.

100% electric semi-automated cars will be 50% of new car sales in 5 years. When Elon gets his battery factory built and starts shitting out cheap teslas the other automakers will desperately follow behind or bankrupt

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There is a lot of good information on how to get started in the electrical field on /r/electricians.

Assuming you're in US or CA, I'd consider applying to the nearest IBEW local. Union electricians make over $10/hour more than nonunion, and the benefits are quite substantial.

You'll need a high school diploma, at least one year of algebra, and a driver's license. After that just pass an aptitude test (basic math & English) and do well enough in the interview, and you're in.

I'm a 2nd year apprentice making $19.86/hour and will top out at $36.60 in a few years. It's a very fun and fulfilling trade to be a part of and definitely not in any danger of being automated.

>>1794477
Yeah its worth it sounds cash

>>1794513

Did you even read my post that you quoted?

I even said it wouldn't be viable for at least another ten years. Even then, they're not all going to instantly be replaced by automated trucks.

It will take at leaat another decade to transition, and that's if this technology actually is viable.

There are already talks of laws possibly requiring a person to be in a driverless car.

OP picking his current career on what may or may not be happen one to two decades later is not smart.

Technology and trends change so exponentially that even two to three year predictions are stretches

>>1794151
Get an accounting/business degree while working a trade, then start your own business. Owning a business is the only way to do trades.