Don't have kids.

>>1678696
ty for daily reminder

Spoiling my niece giving her back when she gets out of hand is as far as I will go with kids. If kids just magically could speak English and learn how to use the toilet when they were born that would be great.

>>1678696
I know buddy I know. Grew up with 7 siblings. Fuck that.

>>1678708
Right? Love my nieces and nephews to death but when they get shitty and annoying I can peace out. I catch that dead-eye, baggy eyed look in my siblings eyes every time they give me the spiel "There the greatest thing to ever happen to me" and I have a hearty kek.

>>1678696
That's what i told your mom 25 years ago, tragic that she didn't listen.

>>1678696
Don't have much money.

>>1678696
There's no point to getting kids. We will all be dead from pollution within three generations.

>>1678696
Nah, they're cool.
Just make sure you have a lot of money before you start with that shit.

>>1678786
This, make sure you have a lot of money and a great housewife that can deal with all of the bullshit like changing diapers and cleaning up their mess

>>1678786
>Just make sure you have a lot of money before you start with that shit.
Sperm and egg quality get worse with age. Enjoy raising kids with serious genetic disorders if you don't have them in your early twenties.

>>1678801
>don't have them by your early twenties.

>>1678801
...But all my younger siblings have fewer genetic disorders than me. One is even four inches taller.

>>1678801
you would have to be retarded to believe this

>>1678837
Did you forget where we are?

>>1678837
Science disagrees.
>>1678840
Why are you here then? Fuck off back to plebbit.

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>>1678845
>I used the word "science" to back up my argument without posting any scientific data or studies

>>1678845
>Science disagrees.
You don't know dick about science, jackass.

>Why are you here then?
Because I enjoy laughing at morons like you.

>had kid
>had wife
>shes depressed
>kid sids
>wife wants divorce
>lawyer gets me annulment, no alimony
>new wife i15 yrs younger than me
>profit

few years younger and I could almost be fucking my dead daughter lolol. Feelsgoodman.jpg

>>1678916
Sudden infant dea..........?

>>1679011
ya sids. too many blankets in the crib who knew. Kinda think her mother did it on purpose cause she was a depressed whore but w/e

t. shlomo

>>1678696
Kids are terrible. Not having kids is the greatest thing you can do for the planet and everyone on it, that is if you give a damn about the environment.

>>1679060
>if you give a damn about the environment
Well I know I do.
My car gets 8 miles to the gallon.

>>1678801
>early twenties
lol more like early forties

>>1678824
>>1679075
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_age_effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_maternal_age
Retards.

>>1678824
>>1678837
>>1678840
>>1679075
>https://m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_age_effect

>want kids and a cute wife
>know what vapid whores women are
>know that your daughter will most likely suck black dick
It's a difficult world to live in.

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>>1678696
>Not getting kids

I'll have 3

WE NEED TO SAVE WHITE RACE; BREED WITH QUTE ARYAN WOMEN HEIL HITLER

WHITE PEOPLE ARE UBERMENSCH DONT LET JEW CONTROL YOU AAGGGRR BRAKE THE CONDITIONING

>>1679341
>tfw irish/german white with blue eyes
>have qt persian gf I plan to impregnate

going Alexander the Great mode

>>1679342
If you were going Alexander the Great mode you would be Macedonian and would wife up and impregnate multiple Macedonians and Persians.

Learn your history.

>>1679342
>Irish
>white

>>1679351
>>1679372
>it ain't me starts playing

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>>1679342
>Alexander the Great was Irish or German

Just because Colin Farrell played him in a movie doesn't he was Irish. He was a slav at best

>>1678916
>loling at the thought of fucking your own dead daughter
Stay classy, 4chan

>>1679329
Fuck, don't want kids now. 48% chance of kid sucking black cock? And I have to pay for it?

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today i will remind them

>>1679075

t. post wall roastie

>>1679342

you will just get a turk

>>1678706
Yes, thank you. Listen to OP, you retards!

>>1678696
>>1678734
That's what taught me to never have kids. I fucking hated growing up with my siblings.
Not having children is the only good financial advise /biz/ can ever offer.

>>1679325
>>1679328
Still waiting for the part where it says "Your kids will have serious genetic disorders if you don't have them in your twenties".
Fucking yokels.

>>1678696
i try not to

>>1679533
to me it was seeing the misery of my parents.
they pretended to be happy but all i ever hear is "we don't have the money to..."

>>1678916
Merry Christmas to you too

I got my girlfriend pregnant and we're due in April. AMA

>>1679643
With respect that's the least interesting AMA ever.

Good luck though. Don't be like most of the fuckups in this thread and their parents, open a savings and/Or investment account for them and start making regular contributions as soon as you can.

>>1679618
So use that as motivation to do better, earn more, and be able to give your kids the upbringing you wish you had. Pouting and removing yourself from the gene pool is a bitch move.

>>1679411
Jared leto cant have kids it is trans.

>>1679665
It's not his duty to do that. If he wants to down the line sure he better do what's right.

When you grow up with a bunch of siblings, poor drunk parents who fight all the time, it's no surpise when you aren't eager to hop on the family bandwagon again.

>>1679665
i'm not removing myself from the gene pool, i donate a lot of my jizz. i'm just not raising any of them because fuck that.

>>1679665
>earn more
i'm "earning" a lot more because i have no kids.
or at least able to save and spend on myself a hell of a lot more and have more free time and everything.
it's not worth it having kids and be middle class at best.

i wonder whos behind this post

I won't until im 30+.

Fucking kids drain the energy out of you.

>>1680056
>have more free time
Once you get the money, you can have tons of that anyway. You just wind up paying people to do most of your shit.
I'm sitting here playing ps4 for the next 3 hours. Then a babysitter is showing up and I'm going out to dinner. When I get back, my kids will be in bed and I'll have another 3 hours free until I go sleep.
>feelsgoodman

>>1680081
Age? Job?

>>1680082
37, retired.

>>1680081
yeah well but that would be the same without kids only more money and time.
but for most people it's either they barely scrape by or they don't have kids and can actually have financial safety and some free time.

even if i was so rich a kid wouldn't matter i would think twice about it.

>>1680086
>same without kids only more money and time
Well, you get to a point where you don't really need more of either.
What am I going to do with more time? I already have gobs of it. As far as money goes, if I wasn't satisfied with how much I have, I wouldn't have retired and had kids to begin with.

>>1680098
yeah well i'm not even close to that.
what was your saving ratio, and when did you start?

>>1680084
Did you make your money in crypto?

>>1680108
>saving ratio
I didn't have one. I just established a pretty frugal lifestyle (paying 100% for everything, no debt, etc.) and saved whatever came in above that. Sometimes it wasn't that much, other times I'd get a windfall but wouldn't spend any of it.

>when did you start
Not sure. 22 maybe?

>>1680110
God, no.

>>1680130
>and saved whatever came in above that
well that's what they call a saving ratio monthly earnings/saving on average. like you take an average year...

i'm trying to achieve a 40% saving ratio but it's fucking hard.i live in a shithole where wages are ridiculously low but the cost of food and electronics is higher than in the west. the services and rent is fuck cheap that is why we stay alive. but still food and paying the bills takes up all of most peoples earnings. only the top 2-3% by income can save steadily.

>>1680161
>it's fucking hard
I hear that.
I wound up depriving myself of a lot of shit. Didn't have a credit card until I was 30, drove the same car for 20 years.
I'm sure that didn't have anything to do with how many drugs I took.

>>1680193
i only recently applied for a cc. so far it's good, i'm actually saving money with it. 3-5% of what i spend with it i receive as cashback. it's not much but every little counts.

>>1680206
Yeah, I got scared off early, seeing people I knew go into debt with them. I wasn't aware they could be used responsibly. Plus, % cash back wasn't as common then.

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I want kids, but I also have a case of crippling misogyny and it keeps me from wanting to deal with marriage or a long term relationship with a woman.

>>1680220
if you find a good responsible one that can hold a decent job you can halve much of your living costs. so long you don't have kids, cause that will cause the earnings/capita to fall below pepes ass.

>>1680220
>case of crippling misogyny
I had that too.
It took until I was around 30 to get past it.

Don't plan on it until im at least 30 and have something good to my name

>>1680246
i'm 37 in a few days, have to work an other 10-15 years before i have financial independence (sans kids) would have to work an other 30 years if i want to pay for a house and raise a kid. yeah well fuck that shit!

>>1680220
this is normal for men.
If you understand and admire women you've probably got low testosterone.

The secret to living with women is to ignore them when you don't need anything from them, and they do the same if you do it right.

also don't marry needy, high-maintenance chicks. If she can't survive days or even weeks without seeing your face you've got the wrong girl.

>>1678801
>https://m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_age_effect
Butthurt parent detected.

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Would we get more genetic diversity if we let fertile old men procreate? Would this increase the likelihood of producing superhuman child freaks?

>>1680268
>if we let fertile old men procreate?
don't we?

I know a lot of old farts that get laid more in an average year than this entire board has in its collective lives.

>>1680270
yeah, single old dudes have more of that sweet, sweet retirement money. Sugar daddies right there

>>1679643

I drive a Honda Element. AMA.

>>1680812
I drive a Ferrari. AMA

>>1680818

Is it fast?

>>1680832
Feels like 60 when I'm going 120.

>>1680838

That is sweet.

>>1680858
Is it easy to drop a kid in to the Element?
Because even with our SUV, it's kind of a bitch.

>>1680818
How much did you retire with?

>>1680887
About 4 mil.

>>1680239
how did you do it

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>>1680879

The rear door is a suicide clamshell. And the handle is within the door not on the outside. This is a common 2nd door on mid-size trucks.

It's not bad. Since it's suicide getting in and out is pretty easy. I think it's a plenty good design.

I think some parents don't like it because the back seats are just 2. There is no middle seat, which is the safest position to put a baby/toddler.

>>1679351
Macadonian males*

>>1678696
I dont have anyone left. They all died.

Thanks for reminding me.

>>1678696
>Promoting the Death of the West

I seriously hope you don't do this

>>1681847
First, I stopped expecting them to make logical sense, because I finally realized they don't think the same way men do.
Then I figured out most of them didn't want to fuck me because I was kind of an asshole who didn't have much to offer them.
After that, I didn't hate them as much anymore.

>>1681932
>suicide clamshell
Didn't know that. But I recognize the interior handle from trucks, what a fucking pain.
What's in the middle if there's no seat?

>>1682360

> What's in the middle if there's no seat?

nothing it's just really spacious. there's tons of headroom and legroom in all postions.

The seats are pretty flat and not very luxurious though.

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>>1680071

>>1680264
>also don't marry needy, high-maintenance chicks. If she can't survive days or even weeks without seeing your face you've got the wrong girl.

Solid advice

>>1682428
>tons of headroom and legroom
Seems like this would be more valuable for adults than kids.

>>1679329
>be me
>know qt3.14
>she's really religious
>she's slavic
>she's literally in a completely different social circle

I have a wife who makes 80k a year and also handles 70℅ of kid stuff because that's her big life goal, 2 kids and 3 million in investments and 400k in bank, we have small house and drive mid 2000s cars, I write and craft random shit and sell on etsy and day trade penny stocks to stave off boredom, I'm 27 she's 26, probably both retiring at around 40.

Get on my level.

>>1682360
>who didn't have much to offer them
in the material sense?
so you're basically saying you gave up and then realized you had to be a provider?

>>1678742
The irony is, the only way to have kids and enjoy it is if you are rich as fuck so you don't condemn them to wagecuck like you.

>>1680130
>God, no.
does it hurt being a dumb nocoiner?

>>1679595
>>1680913
>37 year old posting on 4chan
>beta provider for some ancient dirty skank
>has 4 million and thinks he's Jacob Rothschild himself
Enjoy your retarded kids, fucking old geezer.

My girlfriend wants kids so badly. We both have solid careers and do whatever we want. I keep telling her that we won't be able to have the same lifestyle if we have kids. We are pretty young though. Both in our early 20s. Maybe this feeling will change.

>>1683058
>in the material sense?
No, in the personal sense. I had the money, I was just a dick.

>>1683064
>does it hurt being a dumb nocoiner?
Everyone who made millions should have done it with Bitcoin, and those who didn't are dumb?
Wow, grow up.

>>1683070
>has 4 million and thinks he's Jacob Rothschild himself
Stay jelly, poorfuck.

>>1683097
>poorfuck
You're more than twice my age, you retired lazy nigger. By the time I'm 37 I'll most likely be worth 10 times than you are now.

>>1683110
>I'll most likely be worth 10 times than you are now
Sure you will.

>>1678696
what if ur smoking hot and not a lonely pajeet

>>1683077
Don't do it until 25.

>>1683077
>we won't be able to have the same lifestyle if we have kids
It's true, that's why you should wait until you get tired of that lifestyle.
Sounds crazy, but eventually you will.

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Bard - Level 3

The Seven Levels of Kekism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=853GwPRk19M

>>1683172
Damn I really don't want to grow out of it. We eat out whenever we want. We can go on trips whenever. We are going to Alaska this summer and then Norway next summer. It's a pretty comfy life right now. We don't have to worry about money, I look at my parents and they are poor. I'm the oldest of 4. It sounds selfish, but I'll do anything to not be poor anymore and having kids is like the first step in my opinion.

>>1683179
You don't grow out of the stuff you're talking about, at least, we never did. More the going to loud ass clubs and crowded places when everyone else did.
Assuming you've got the bankroll for it, you can still eat out and travel whenever you want, you'll just have to bring in help to watch/look after any kids.
At worst, they limit the more time consuming travel for 2-3 years (when they're so young you don't want to leave them for 2-4 weeks). We travelled constantly for about 5 years before we pulled the trigger, enough that we were ok with taking a break on the longer stuff for awhile.

>>1683202
Thanks for the advice man. I am still trying my to figure this adult stuff out. I just look at my parents and all of my friends with kids and they look broke and miserable. It's hard to explain this stuff to my girlfriend because her family is very wealthy and has never had to struggle for anything. So her outlook is starting a family is the most important thing you can do. While I am more interested in experiencing things because I never got to when I was a kid.

>>1683212
>they look broke and miserable
Most of them probably are. Having the kids without finances in place is a pretty common mistake, especially since women tend to push for it regardless of money (ticking clock and all).
My girlfriend was similar. Having the monetary angle in place already, she didn't see any reason to wait.

>>1678696
Underage thought process. Raising your son to be an intelligent compassionate successful man is the most fulfilling thing in life

>>1683271
Gayest thing I've ever read. maybe you should have sex with him if you love him so much.

>>1678870
This. I only come to /biz/ for the laffs. God you kids are fucking retarded. Worst board on 4chan which is already a landfill

>>1679668
Please respect his pronouns

>>1683273
>Look mom! Im posting again!

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>>1683274

>I only come on
>God
>kids
>worst board

/b/

lurk more newfag, we don't care

>>1683301
Not new. Hung around this dump for over a decade. Gets worse every time i log on. /b/ is full or retards but at least theyre mildly self aware. /biz/ is basically one big cringe thread constantly updating itself

>>1683097
lol how do you do a 180 and say you were a dick but now suddenly you're not

>>1683344

Same here, you've seen /b/ in its glory days then and everything is much milder now. The concept of "cringe" is just a construct of conscientiousness gone haywire. You'll find that silver lining in not being overly skeptical and cynical because even delving in Ali Baba's cave will get boring, every fairytale has an ounce of truth. To each is own, self-identifying with this board is your own perception because humans want to make sense out of the pure randomness generated on these boards, getting over logical to stay on top of things but if you simply agree that you're part of the hivemind and realize that everything is one and you'll be at peace with yourself at the risk of sounding new-agey because the strength of your self-identity won't be tarnished but rather reaffirmed. We're all bros here and this world to some extent so take a chill pill and enjoy the ride.

>>1683271
How did you come to that conclusion? I mean that's awesome don't get me wrong but I can think of many other things people in history have done that are way "greater."

It's all subjective really. You need to understand that some people don't want the same things you do. Shocking I know.

>>1683405
All those people you read about in history have fathers that are proud and fulfilled (if they lived that long) They are objectively happier

>>1683345
>you were a dick but now suddenly you're not
>suddenly
Lol. It wasn't suddenly. That shit took years.

>>1683559
ok makes sense but I guess
but it definitely feels like I'll hate women for the rest of my life

>>1678696
it's funny you know when i was younger i was like fuck kids! who the fuck wants that shit!? then i was like alright if it happens happens. now i'm thinking what if i regret it later? shit sucks man. gf probably can't get preggers anyways.

>>1683502
Alright dude, must be fun pulling things out of your ass all day. Sound to me your just trying to justify your decisons after the fact.

>>1683589
>feels like I'll hate women for the rest of my life
Lol. It's easy to do, that's for sure.
You just have to remember that they don't think or reason anything like men. That doesn't mean you'll suddenly start liking them, but you'll probably hate them a lot less.
It's sort of like talking to someone who doesn't speak English, and getting pissed because they don't understand you. Knowing it doesn't mean you understand them any better, but you'll know why at least.

>>1683271

Bingo.

Nothing more fulfilling than building offspring into proud warriors and maidens.

>>1678801
>not marrying a 20 year old female at 40

milk, wine, age, etc

>>1683110
How will you make your $40 million net worth? By being a jealous cunt and dreaming about being rich? You will most likly never accomplish your goal. It's just a dream

>>1683097
Yes, you are specially dumb if you browse this site and keep missing the bitcoin rocket.

>>1684095
>tfw been browsing 4chan since 2010 and heard of bitcoin for many years
>still haven't bought any

How retarded am I? It's hard to buy it knowing that I could have been a millionaire right now just through it, and that I might have missed the ship.

>>1679016
Holy shit... Plz be satire

>>1684095
>you are specially dumb
Deep breaths.

>>1684245
>I'm not going to take the boat to wonderland because I missed the boat to paradise

hmm

>>1683920
their thought patterns don't frustrate me
i just hate them for reasons i can't even articulate
i don't like talking to them or being around them, or kids for that matter

>>1685049

Similar here. I don't even "hate" them, I'm just really fuckin' bored by most of them. It's like they're happy to just exist and coast on their eggs and vagina while they wait for a man...not any man, but one that every woman would want...to come along and give them some kind of meaning, rather than carve it out for themselves. What DOES piss me off is when they do that and then turn around and expect anyone to believe they're deep and have hard lives.

The few I enjoy being around are older, not very attractive, and are nice to me.

>>1678696
I don't and i have no plans too, I'm 33 years old and i've already seen a few buddies fall for the marriage meme and lose half of everything they owned in nasty divorces.

>>1679016
You do know SIDS doesn't stand for "Smothering Infant Daughter Syndrome" right?

>>1685121
i'm the same with bitcoin shills
so fucking tired

>>1678916
Sending you prayers and I'm not religious

If it was possible to have a kid without involving a woman I'd do it tomorrow. Just waiting on artificial wombs. Assuming that doesnt happen I might pursue the surrogate option if I can retire by early 40s. Theres no way I could go the marriage route, wife will drain more resources than 4 kids combined just to keep her happy, and I've known too many men who were completely destroyed by divorce.