/CCG/ - Cryptocurrency General

Block Halving Alert - OKcash
http://okcashblockhalf.com/

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>>1660064
ooh shit we almost to bitcoin too

http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/

>>1660064
WELP

Rip circle

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Keep holding. Do not allocate all of your BTC towards trading. (unless you want to stay poor)

>>1660512
none of those are realistic

>>1660524
$1,200 per bitcoin is very realistic, in fact it already happened

>>1660524
see>>1660535

I've got some experience in FX trading but my capital was already very low to start with, and FX is a market you can only make a decent profit with if you have a huge capital, and leverage is a double edged sword too. I had a decent enough success rate usually trading in a 1 day time frame. I'm completely self taught, but as I said, the small profits are extremely discouraging.

Would it be worth looking into BTC or other cryptocurrencies instead? Is it essentially the same kind of trading and a similar market to FX?

Sorry, but I'm relatively new to all of this. I don't expect the difference to be huge, but hopefully an improvement over what FX could offer me for now.

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>>1660644
yes, you're in the right place m8. Just sign up for poloniex, and make gain. but yea, if u talking about technical analysis being heavily relied on, i think crypto and FX definitively have some crossover there. if you want mad gains holding bitcoin long term, then there is that too

>>1660666
Thanks. Poloniex seems to be US-based, which I am not, so what is the European option?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of capital do you have and what kind of gains have you achieved on average? Just trying to get an idea of how this market performs, but I don't know anyone currently trading cryptocurrency. You don't need to give me exact numbers, I just want a rough vision of how this market is so I can compare.

Is it a dick move to use a "light" wallet without the blockchain?

>>1660672
Any can use polo.

Use okcoin to long btc.

Trade forex and stocks using btc with 1broker, simplefx, whale club.

This is most likely a dumb question, but please humor this complete noob:

How do you sell bitcoin?
Whom do you sell it to?

I'm using Electrum.

>>1660818

Are you an American? If so use coinbase or circle.

If not use localbitcoin.

>>1660821
European.
Pretty sure coinbase wouldn't be a problem, they localize for Europe.

>>1660822
You can also google bitcoin ATM's in your area if you just want cash.

>>1660824
The purpose is to invest in the longer term.

Will Coinbase simply buy whatever I decide to offload?
Or will by BTC be put on hold until buyers are found?

>>1660829
>by BTC
my BTC*

>>1660822

You can for instance sell it on BTC-e for Euro's and have them transfer it into your bank acc via a wire transfer. Takes a few days amd then you have it in your bank acc.

It's even easier if you are Dutch.

>>1660841
>It's even easier if you are Dutch.
Why?

Question: thoughts on Lisk? (long term)

>want to put 3k into buttcoins
>have to wait until I sign the papers to build a new house

Hold me /biz/.

I've been bag holding this cryptocurrency and the whales that also hold it are almost going to let the coin die in the hopes that I sell my stash to them. The second I do sell my stash they are going to pump it. Fuck rich people.

>>1661040
>person A and B are both holding
>person B is letting the coin die by holding, but person A isn't

How does that work?

>>1661094
The coin is used to pay for an application, the developer of the app has been told to stall an important update for the past year as if its been abandoned. I'm friends with the dev. People all sold thinking the app was not longer being updated, except me and the whales due to having insider info. Dev told me they aren't happy that someone (me) is still holding so much (+10%).

>>1661107
Is this kind of like how Circle stopped selling buttcoin for some reason?
To (seemingly) kill the currency?

Also, what app?

>>1660969
>decide to put some money into buttcoin anyway
>open a free account with some other bank
>"no home banking tonight due to maintenance"

Someone please hold and squeeze me.

Remember when everyone was shilling XDN like nothing has ever been shilled before?

Dumb asses.

Remember when WAVES was in a better position to double in market cap than anything below it on the list?

Oh wait, you don't have to remember. That's right now.

The toads have spoken.

>>1661353

Sasha did just say something about the price in the waves telegram chat.

HE DIDN'T MENTION WHICH WAY THOUGH

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=PASC_BTC

Pascal getting big volume. I'd seriously suggest start buying in.

>>1660867

You'd be becoming a 3rd generation bag holder if you bought now. It was only ever conceived to make a quick buck off of Ethereum's hype at the time.

What the the fucked happened to cause XRP to jump around 4pm GMT today?

Looking like exit pumps of alts for BTC.

ICN MOTHERFUCKER!
FUCK YEAH!

>>1661373
Of course up.

Why would a dev go out if his way to shit in his own coin. (WAVES)

>>1660672
I put in4k, lost 1k ish or more

Yea, fomo is real

Should I buy into the ethereum meme?

>>1661348
Is it still worth buying?

buy IOC, will hit 50K+ by end of weekend. you're welcome!

>>1661721

Sasha has never indicated he gave a shit about traders. I'm pretty sure this is the first he ever talked about the price for traders.


>>1661508
Already up 1k sats in price.

>>1661534
Not really. LISK is a good coin to have in your portfolio. Maybe not massive gains but safe investment, just not all in of course.

>>1661804
Wait until the price goes back down which is sooner than later with BTC looking to break ATH.

>>1661812
NO.

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Welp I have no idea what I am doing in Cryptopia, I made an account, made a miner, but dunno what to do after.

Help please

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>>1661649

Buy HZ. Check all time chart. Perfect price and moment. Profit guaranteed

>>1661903

Nope.

Buy RADS boyos

Get ready

Is it too late to start buying Bitcoins? I got some money to put somewhere, and want to know if I missed the boat on any bitcoin gains.

>>1661953

Nope. BTC still hasn't passed previous ATH and it wants to.

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>>1660057
I can't read charts /biz/. When should I buy bitcoin? Today, tomorrow morning, etc ... ? I need to know where this chart is heading in the short term.

>>1661972

Buy the Sunday dip

>>1661995
Thanks bb.

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>>1661972
just use some of these technical analysis studies

>>1661972

I honestly suggest just buy now and just don't look at prices until CNN reports "BITCOIN $2000"

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>>1660057
buy ZCoin

Guys, Id love to buy bitcoin but lets be realistic. I only have about 3k to invest, desu waiting a year for bitcoin to hit 2000 dollars is only going to make me like 9k total. Thats pitiful returns for a full year investment.

I know bitcoin has major issues with some kind of transaction slowdown. Literally reminds me of AOL before actual good internet came to the market. Surely there will be a replacement to bitcoin right? Theres always a first on the market but someone else is going to improve it. Do you bitcoiners really think bitcoin is going to be the permanent virtual currency?

>>1662460

>lets be real
>x3 is pitiful

lol okay buddy.

>>1662472

but we're here to get rich quick, senpai.

>Everyone missing out on those sweets gains from Bittrex

>>1662472
it is though

>>1661508
>>1661858

Why Pascal over bitcoin?
Srs question.

>>1661858
>BTC looking to break ATH.
Will a bunch of retards dump right after the ATH?

>>1662791

Yeah it'll consolidate. Every time, BTC reaches a new high, it'll go down then break through. When the ATH does get broken, it'll be on a very steady uptrend for a long time.


>>1662788
PASCAL is going to be Bitcoin but easier to build ontop of with a well known programming language. Won't overtake bitcoin by any means but it'll reach 5 times it's price soon.

>>1663157

>but it'll reach 5x it's price soon

L E L
E
L

>>1663164

you really don't understand the power icocountdown.com has in terms of shilling.

Opinions on navcoin?

>>1662460
Bitcoin's history is fucking huge spikes. That's what we hold in hope of. 3x is still nice while you wait.

>There are people that are still falling for the Bitcoin meme.

what wallet should I get? I'm a nocoiner. I don't want any third-party having anything to do with my wallet in any way, shape or form. I'd prefer a desktop client, keys stored only on my computer.

and user-friendly because again, I'm a nocoiner

For anons who can't invest large amounts of money on crypto
https://hashflare.io/r/7D07B2D3

>>1663524

DON'T DO THIS

also

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20161228T00&p0=1440&msg=ICNX+%26+ICNP+ICONOMI+Platform+Launch&font=sanserif

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>>1660057
Hey /biz/! I was trading with cryptos a few months ago but then stopped because I needed my capital. I stopped following the news around the beginning of October. Now that I have a little money again to play around I want to get back.

So someone can give me a TLDR on what happened in the last 2 months? Anything I should know about?

>>1660057
stop shilling shit coins and buy waves. Gateway coming out next week this is your last chance

>>1663838
I'm a bitcoin noob about to sink 3k into BTC. Sell me on waves.

>>1663901
are you me?

>>1663838
>sell me on waves and ether

>mined 1 btc
>sold 1 btc for eur
>want to buy 3 btc now(can't afford anymore)

Do I pull the trigger, why the fuck did I end up selling that first btc anyway, it is only gonna go up now right ?

>>1663914
Yes

>>1663923
Is it safe to hold btc on exchanges like kraken ? I don't have my own btc address, I always used polo/kraken address but only for small amounts so far.

>>1663901

Dont buy waves.

>>1664024

Not a very good idea chief

>tfw there's more than one shitcoin that's something pathetic cheap like $.0001 that will balloon to like $3 per coin and could make me effortless millions
>tfw I'm not invested in it because I'll never know what it is

>>1663901
You have a better chance of turning your $3000 to $300,000 with waves than $3000 to $6000 with Bitcoin. It's basic math.

Wavesplatform is the 7th highest funded crowdfunding project. It's a very active project with a great community and brilliant developers behind it. Don't take my words for it, go see it yourself in their slack channel and commits on Github.

>>1663501
please help me /biz/

>>1663818
Yes, bitcoin --> moon


As always

FEC committee ID - C00629519

This will become the bitcoin/trumpcoin superPAC. No news because it's not announced yet.

>>1664136
You'd have to research over 3000 different cryptocoins and be real good buddies with the devs in order to get inside info and then you'll also have to guess how they'll do in 3-4 years. For all you know bitcoin could become illegal or even worse... forgotten.

i got in bitcoin pretty early (they were around 25) as a safe way to play online poker for money in the USA

i pussed out and sold when they hit 400. It's been a few years, I have 10,000 that I want to "invest" (gambool) with

what's gonna happen to bitcoin when Trump takes office, should I just do it?

dubs and I do it

Don't know shit about BTC. Where do I start? Guides, infographics, anything. I want to learn as much as I can.

>>1664494
If you can't even google don't start

whats up with ETC?

>>1662460
>get lucky on some obscure cryptocoin
>think 10x returns are normal

>>1663838

I'm a waves holder and been telling everyone to buy waves for a long time now.

Now I'm gonna spread FUD because fuck you.

>>1664494
Literally in the OP but don't bother because if you can't see that, you're not gonna be able to trade.

Honestly, just buy and hold BTC or wait until ICN's platform comes out and put your money into one of their funds.

>>1664563
Big news on the way apparently so everyone is buying the rumor.

>>1664618
This

>>1663901
Fiat gateways for crypto. Actually huge for the crypto markets.

Diversify, nigga. Don't go all in on anything ever.

Here's some shit you should be holding

FCT
LTC
ETH
ETC
XMR
ICN
WAVES
SC
BTC

also buy into BTC now, wait a few months and buy altcoins a lot cheaper.

>>1664024
Get a wallet and save the wallet in a flash drive unless its going to be actively traded.

>>1664262
3k to 30k is highly possible, not 3k to 300k. That is just ridiculous.

>>1664491
if you're not actively trading then just buy btc and hold.

ICN sell wall at 30k just disappeared. Buy now and sell on December 21st or December 28th.

Follow their twitter just in case of any delays of platform then you can safely sell there and rebuy when new date is announced.

what does FUD stand for?!?

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>>1664868
>Literally in the OP but don't bother because if you can't see that, you're not gonna be able to trade.
THE SALT IS REAL


>>1664494
absolutely, here is FAQ
https://bitcoin.org/en/faq

if you're US citizen, u can buy with coinbase from bank or debit card. basically digit gold and you should hold for long term


Tech crunch has a great youtube series here on history/ current state of bitcoin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gYkqsxi2gc&list=PLHRxVckaE8daSH4OEReWshCKWu3iIOIS-

Just getting into BTC, chose Armory as my wallet. People I've talked to have said it isn't a great wallet for beginners, but I really want the most secure wallet I can get, so I'm planning on doing cold storage with Armory, and eventually, buying a hardware wallet for cold storage.

Any tips on setting up cold storage on Armory for beginners? I'm following the official tutorials on Armory's website and some YouTube videos

>>1664900
Fully UnDetectable, it means it won't be caught by antivirus programs

>>1664917

This isn't maplestory hacks, faggot.

FUD - Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt

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>>1664917
dayum i thought it was like hype or something

>>1664909
i have no idea regarding the wallet. i just used multibit and have never done cold storage with USB

>>1664868
I just want to emphasize the possibility here. Look, to turn $3000 to $6000 in Bitcoin, the price must be $1400/BTC. You'll earn the same amount if waves was $0.6. Which one is more possible? from $700 to $1400 or 30c to 60c?

>>1665149


Waves to 40 cents may be the quicker route but both are possible.

Also Waves is at 22 cents now, not 30. Almost doubling to 40 cents would be a lot quicker than 30 to 60.

What about BELA?
Looks good with the MAC wallet release and the big ass countdown on their website. http://belacoin.org/invest/
It worked for SHADOW.

>>1663501
I got electrum after many recommendations, but I haven't used it yet.

If you have the HDD space, just get Bitcoin Core.

>>1664868
>save the wallet in a flash drive
Do I simply drag the "wallets" folder to a flash drive?
I'm using Electrum.

>>1665342
I could do that. I thought that one needed to download the whole blockchain? It can't do that if it's offline

I was actually planning to get Armory just now, but just for the offline computer. How should I set up the online one?

>>1665351
sorry for any confusion, forgot to mention that I want to utilize cold storage

>>1665351
I am an absolute buttcoin noob as well, still have to actually pull the trigger on my very first bitcoin purchase.
I know very little about the different wallets, except the difference between fully-fledged and lightweight wallets.

All I think I know is this: bitcoin relies on a network of "nodes", and getting the whole blockchain makes you a node who is a benefit to bitcoin.
Consequently, getting a lightweight wallet like electrum is kind of a dick move (even though security is supposed to be very good on electrum, with that seed phrase and all).

Not sure how accurate this is though.

>>1665169
Why should I buy Waves over bitshares? Aren't they implementing the same features?

I want your opinion, /biz/:

-use Electrum for actual holding/trading
-simply download Bitcoin Core for the sole purpose of being a node

Sound like a plan to you?

Or is being a node not actually important to the growth of Bitcoin?

>>1665383
>>1665354
continuing this guy's questions

Using cold storage, I'd trade BTC like this
>Have private keys, acct balance record in my offline computer
>copy of blockchain, public key in my online computer, active acct balance
>Make transaction on online computer, copy wallet file over to the offline one to sign it (and update my acct balance)
>Go to online computer to transmit signed transaction to the blockchain and update my copy of the blockchain
right?

Long ETH?

>>1665393
you spelled short wrong

>>1665394
Doesn't Ethereum have a lot of potential, with dapps and so on?

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>>1665402
yes, thats why i am bullish

>>1664868
This, Waves is a scam, put it all in ICN.
Or watch your money evaporate.
Here's to ICN , cheers!

Is there any nocoiners still alive or have they all finally killed themselves?

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Am I seeing this wrong, or is Waves not going to do shit?

>>1665585
lmfao, you actually bought into this scam..

>>1665590
I did?

>>1665591
For your sake, I hope you did not.

>>1665381
Nothing wrong with WAVES.

(Remember that one crypto that had to change its entire code to give back people money that made a bad investment? The one thats around $8 now? That totally wast a scam.)

>>1665402
>>1665426

I've been hearing about dapps for 2 years now.

You know how many dapps I use? None.
You know how many dapps I've even heard about people using? None.

How many of the Devs for other alts just did an hour long unfiltered Q&A?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-UBudRcF2o

Decentralized exchange is coming with WAVES. Ya'll gonna be crying.

>>1665626
Do you have to buy waves using bitcoin?

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All you had to do was take my advice.
Yet that thread got like 3 replies.
Your loss, guys.

>>1665746
What's ICN?

>>1665746
>>1665940
And why should I care?

>>1665947
>>1665940

sorry breh, I'm not here to explain anything to you. I'm just here for my monthly screencaps, so I can post them in January.

>>1666047
Explain it to me tho.

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So you have to buy ICN with bitcoin, right? Or can you buy using Euros?

Can you use Electrum as a wallet for ICN?

I'm honestly trying to look this all up, but I'm way too new to the game to understand any of it (I'm the guy who was about to pump 3k into buttcoin).

>>1666108

You can buy ICN with ETH or BTC which can be bought with EUR. Use Kraken to buy BTC or ETH to buy ICN.

ICN is on a dip. BTFD = Buy The Fucking Dip

>>1665940

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587736.16860

>>1666208
>Use Kraken to buy BTC

How about Coinbase? For a Euro?

>>1666344
>For a Euro?
By which I mean a European citizen.

>>1666209
Any particular reason why you linked me page 844?

>>1666208
B-but where do you store ICN? A special wallet?
Or is this different?

>>1666350

Nope. Just happened to be in the link.

>>1666344
Use Kraken for Europe

>>1666363

https://medium.com/iconominet/how-to-receive-icn-tokens-in-your-own-ethereum-wallet-72d6bee01b9d#.x060b4ypy

BTC keeps going up. Should I buy now? Should I wait for the Christmas downward spiral?

Gotta love how these fucking cryptowallets just start downloading gigs without asking where to save them.

>>1666443

And now Ethereum Wallet stopped loading blocks.

so, after creating an offline wallet in whatever software I choose, I can generate a receiving address, and then people can send money to that address. But since my full wallet is offline, I need to update the account balance from an online wallet. How exactly do I do that, keep a secure, full version of my wallet offline, while keeping a partial wallet online to send/receive money, and how do I transfer the info from my online to my offline? Can I just use an actual online browser-based wallet?

Opinions on BURST?

>>1665617
Yes, most crypto is still speculation on new blockhai

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>when the trendlines you drew 2 days ago are on point

Bitcoin is ready to pop, its like October 2013 again.

Bitcoin and Monero are the coins to hold. When bitcoin has its bubble, roll the gains into Monero and make another 5x-100x.

Then buy private island.

2017 is gonna be great.....

>>1666798
xmr had its pump with alphabay, it's over

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>>1666803
actually? i thought we still in anonymous hype phase

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>>1666790
update

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HOW MANY BITCOINS ARE YOU HOLDING RIGHT NOW

This Monero rise is over but the next one will come in 2017. They have great developers and just got listed on Bitfinex last week.

The only truly anonymous coin, RingCt and the GUI will be released in January 2017.

Things are ONLY getting started!

>>1666930
4 atm


>>1664925
>FUD - Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
oh shit thanks

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>>1666930
I'm on OKcoins list of their 10 largest future contact holders. Don't even ask how I got there.

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>>1666921
further update ;~;

>>1667054

fucking chinks

Huobi is such a cocktease. Give us a marginally higher new high and then immediate and violent dump. Note the relative lack of volume on the huge red candle - someone wanted to shake out longs for cheap

>>1667032
How did you get there

>>1667032
how did you get there?!?

>>1667093
>>1667095


LETTING THE WAVES GO BY

WATER FLOWING UNDER GROUND

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>VoIPing with a big bitcoin exchange operator
>ask him if he's excited for the new and upcoming 4chan/biz/ demographic
>he literally can't even respond
>mention they call themselves /biz/raelis
>he says he's always open to new customers and then adds "I support the /biz/raelis"
did I do good, goys?

>>1667209
he also said he'd be open to adding rare pepes if they have consistent volume over time.

meme magic is real, people.

FoldingCoin - FLDC?
Looks good with the halving coming up for a good price now.
Also BELA with the new projects coming and with the countdown on their site.

That's the 2 altcoins that look promising for me now and not just pump and dumps. First I was thinking that I'm gonna wait if BTC goes up but with that dumping today I'm not waiting anymore.

Ethereum Wallet always stops downloading blocks.

Tried this many times on two computers now.
Even tried both 32 and 64 bit.

What a piece of shit.

>>1667111
xD


>>1667308
i am ready for the pump.

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>>1667340
This number hasn't changed in two hours.

Tried relaunching but it always just stops downloading after a bit.
Tried on a different computer too.

>>1667340
>>1667350
that's ETH for you.

i am just using https://www.myetherwallet.com/

>>1667350
And now my login and password for Kraken are apparently "invalid".
Even though I wrote them down and they worked perfectly an hour ago, and yesterday.

>>1667350
Thx

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>set this graph to 1 hour
>shows me more than 2 months

Am I being trolled?

>>1660057
>PLAY BITCOIN POKER
>>http://pastebin.com/vLQ4mxdW
Can someone confrim this btc poker is safe? I dont want to step in some e-bandit e-trap

POT has jumped 100 percent in the last 24 hours

https://twitter.com/maguraaa/status/808617999829790720

To all the people who mined Pascal on Vultr

Here you go.

>>1667735

its not an "e-"bandit "e-"trap you "re-"tard.

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Everything in crypto is cruel. All speculative business is cruel. Not one of those anons ever earned a single satoshi of their money, they've taken the whole of it from others, and these others took it from others still, and so on almost indefinitely. There isn't a single satoshi of it that hasn't been through twenty hands, or fifty for that matter, since the last man who had done some honest work for it parted company with it. Well, bitcoin like that belongs to those who are in possession of it, only so long as they are strong enough to hold on to it. When someone stronger still comes along, he takes it away from them. They don't complain; they don't cry and say it's cruel. They know it's the rule of the game. They accept it-- and begin at once looking out for a new set of fools and weaklings to recoup themselves on. That's the way the crypto-exchanges work.

https://twitter.com/lilshowerpump/status/808738673659441152

Literally 30 minutes after, 131btc buy wallet appeared. Lol

Factom (FCT) is starting its uptrend cycle and will be lasting for a few months.

>>1668148

Incoming dip.

BTFD

>>1668242

>didn't buy the dip

>>1667399
its trying to give you 1 hour candles
but then you have it set to display as a line (mountain) chart

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praise kek

>>1668770
how much do you want?

>>1668773
.01111 pleases kek

>>1660057
Hi OP, was wondering if you'd be willing to include a bitcoin faucet game that's like Agar.io in your threads.

its called chopcoin.io
my referral link if you want bit (do) do/chopcoin

>>1668780

Nope. Don't like things that make me disable my adblocker.

>>1668789
we use two banner ads to fund the faucet, they arn't in your face or anything, but they help to keep the users happy players.

if you want an idea on our gameplay without diabling adblocker, go to agar.io and play that game. its the same as ours, just no bitcoin rewards.

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>>1668773
MFW no one has ever sent me any and I thought you were serious

>>1668806

You're gonna lose a lot of customers just because people aren't gonna want to disable their ad block. Figure out a way to get passed that and you'll be able to continue staying open.

I won't be putting your game into the OP though, sorry.

>>1668776
>>1668833
nigga i can't give out free money right now, i'm fucking living on ramen noodles lol

if i had a net worth above 4k i would send it lul

>>1668916
Thats probably why you are not worth above 4k

congrats potcoin holders

http://www.gift-coin.com/

OMG POT
So glad I bought the dip.

buy potcoin

>>1669030
>>1669093
>>1669096
Yep

EMC2 on Polo? Right now it looks just like before its last big pump...

>>1669104
any strategies on potcoin?

>>1669411
Besides that it's getting ready to dump?

Guys, i wrote a bot. Earned exactly 0$ with it.

Waste of time?

If the dollar goes up in value will bitcoins go down?

Or does it not matter much since 90% of bitcoin transactions are in chinese yuan

>>1669452
Doesn't matter

told you to buy SYS two weeks ago..

2.1 is going to get released on sunday

>>1669471
SYS?

>>1669484
Obscure cryptocurrency No. 24654165762137324 that might enjoy a short-lived bubble or two.

>>1669471
what is your position?

>>1669485
obscure? It has an actual working decentralized market you fucking Waves bagholder. Download the wallet and check yourself.
http://syscoin.org/syscoin-2-1-release-date-feature-list/?utm_content=buffer1454d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Even if it was obscure how the fuck does it matter? It's about making money here and 2 weeks ago SYS was at 1050.

>>1669485
I just checked out your posts and realized that you're a complete cryptonoob. I'm not even angry anymore.

>>1669504
>I'm not even angry anymore.
Well that's good.

I didn't see WAVESMAN in a long time

I'm a complete noob at crypto
What altcoins would you advise me to trade in?

>>1669426
I'm monitoring POT, still going strong.

>>1669519
Filtered that guy long ago, his shilling attempts were pathetic.

I made 11p from mining ETC yesterday for six hours. I get the feeling it's a bad idea to keep this up.

>>1669629
hey, it's a start!

>>1669633
I guess, it's 11p more than I'd have normally, if I keep it up I could buy a Freddo.
I'm just worried about the life of my GPU.

You will all be trading these coins on WAVES in the future.

>>1669755
top kek

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>>1669755
agreed

other crypto devs wish they were as great as Sasha

¿Being Bitcoin a software, how does it upgrade from time to time to the evolution of technology? Does bitcoin acquire brand new features as the years goes on? Btw, I'm a newfag in cryptocurrencies.

I want to buy btc, should i wait for small dip or just buy right away ?

>>1671124
Unless you're about to invest $100k or something, a $20-30 dip isn't going to mean much.

>>1671163
I have about 3000$ to spend, so I guess i might as well buy it right away.

>>1671166
I'm in the exact same boat as you, about to drop 3k.

I'm not waiting on a dip though, just for my new bank card to come in.

Heard BTC is going to get to 2k or something, so that would mean almost a triple return.

Maybe the holidays/new year's has a major dip/peak in store, so perhaps that might be something to hold out for.

>>1671174
Assuming nothing bad happens like a major hack btc should break its all time high in 2017

>>1671179
>>1671124
I've been checking, and btc had pretty big dips in the early days/weeks of each year.
Really makes you think.

>>1671181
>Taking hit and run dumps serious.

>>1671202
Well the drops have been pretty consistent in the days or weeks after each new year.
This is just from a superficial look at the chart though.

Hey, question from a bitcoin newbie
Why do you guys use/buy bitcoins or other crypto´s instead of doing business as usual with a bank etc.? Is it the investment and money making, or are there any other advantages? All the bitcoin and blockchain seems to complicated and unsafe in the eyes of a normal guy

Kinda have to write an article about the bitcoin consumer base and its possible growth, so i would really appreciateyour help

>>1671181
>in the early days

Bitcoin was a new technology then and very volatile,price shot up to 1k then mtgox happened and it crashed big time ,the price didnt start to recover until last year now its at its highest price since the all time high in 2013 ,minus the bitfinex hack earlier in the year bitcoin has been consistently rising.

I would do some more research on bitcoin and keep up to date with the price,having an understanding of the technology behind bitcoin will help you to understand bitcoins potential,i wouldnt treat it as a get rich quick scheme ,most of us are in this for the long haul.

>>1671236
I said "in the early days of each year". Not "in the early days of BTC".

There was a post-new year's dip in January 2016 too, a drop of about 70 Euros.

>>1671232
First of all many people treat it as an investment because we believe in the technology.

Id say Bitcoins best features are

>The Bitcoin system has never been hacked
>Nobody can touch or seize your bitcoin as long as you store them correctly.
>Transactions cannot be reversed or altered,they are set in stone on the blockchain.
>No chargebacks like with paypal.
>Ability to send and receive bitcoin to anyone and anywhere,nobody can close your account or block your transactions.
>Supply is capped at 21 million btc making it a deflationary currency,no more printing endless money.
>Privacy,although every transaction is publicly logged on the blockchain with precautions you can be pretty much anonymous.

You are basically your own bank,if we all used bitcoin then traditional banks wouldnt be needed.

>>1671238
70 euros is like a daily fluctuation in bitcoin land,the last big dip was after the bitfinex hack,we got to $780 then it dropped nearly $200,Basically nobody can predict the price so tread carefully.

>>1671251
Here's what I see in BTC as a complete noob:

- no imaginary money being added to existing money, driving down the value of said existing money (i.e. like fiat currency)
- no retards in suits making decisions
- no expensive infrastructure, technology, manpower, security, ... to be paid
- there is still TREMENDOUS potential for growth considering only a tiny fraction of the population is using BTC at the moment

I really think this could be the wave of the future.

>>1671266
Only downside I see has to do with the (perceived) vulnerability of "internet stuff".
Not just hacking or HDD failure, but also possible internet regulation.

>>1671268
Other downside it isn't backed by anything, if every decides fuck this shit, it's going to be worth 0$

But that won't happen though

>>1671279
>it isn't backed by anything
Neither is fiat currency. It's all down to "trust".

Exactly the same thing.

>>1671281
Isn't fiat backed by gold?

>>1671288
Not since Nixon was president of the United USA of America.

>>1663569
Is ICN going to the moon once the countdown is done?

>>1671288

Not anymore

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it seems SDC is gettin ready for something - nice uptrend. maybe the rumours are true and the marketplace will be ninja launched within the next days :D

>>1671232
I buy Bitcoin because it is the future of currency. It's partially a bet against fiat, and the rest is investing in something that is completely decentralized with a monetary system that everyone can agree on

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Does anyone here have any longterm insight on Zcash? Theoretically, if ETH is successful, then Zcash should also be successful, right? I understand that the huge volatility early on is causing the price to be driven down, but does anyone here think that it could be a strong buy relative to BTC?

I worry that BTC has reached its limit and its possible that Chinese mining interests are pumping the price to dump supply while they switch into currencies that are devalued due to their BTC pump and then leave others as bagholders essentially.

In that event, wouldn't Zcash be a solid buy along with XMR and ETH?

How much do the other parts besides GPUs matter for mining, can i buy some cheap shit with 4 rx 480s and still have it perform the same?

>>1671300

Yup. Then megamoon over the next few weeks/months until OFMs get released then a few weeks after that for everyone shilling their OFMs.

>>1672030

Holding ZEC at this price for months is a terrible idea. Wait until it gets appropriately priced then wait for ETH news.

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>took a week to get an existing bank account to work online
>finally get it to work
>have to wait a day for my wire transfer to Kraken to complete
>meanwhile BTC keeps growing

>>1671288
If it was, it wouldn't be fiat.

>>1673417
Don't worry, it will drop as soon as you buy. :^)

Who wants to play? https://primedice.com/?c=adb4dz

What do u guys think of t-coin. Massive drop in price but still quite a bit of buy volume within 24h

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BELLACOIN PUMPING

get in

>>1674581
I don't think that it's gonna pump like how they pump smaller altcoins, but I'm sure that BELA will be steadily increasing in the next days since they are developing and releasing new projects. But there's a good chance that the price will skyrocket soon.

What exchange is ICN going to be released on? All I have is a polo account

>>1674951

Its on Kraken and Liqui.

wow $FLDC 115 sats

How fucking long does it take for my deposit to show up on Kraken, the wait is excruciating.

rolling for prediction thread, kek bless these digits

>>1675126
I have no idea, but feels bad man with coinbbase too. Takes a while fucking week

>>1675126
>>1675219
That is how they make a profit, holding on to all deposits for a while will create cash they can invest

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>tfw holding zec

>>1675356
whats your entry point?


ZEK'd

>>1675385
I'm mining zec, I didn't buy any.

opinions on BURST? it's easy as hell to mine and seems like an interesting idea technically. I just can't see a pump anytime soon.

>>1675388
I'm in the same boat. Stay strong bro, the pump has yet to happen, but it will.

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we need to pump FLDC /biz/
>we need to pump FLDC /biz/
we need to pump FLDC /biz/
>we need to pump FLDC /biz/
we need to pump FLDC /biz/
>we need to pump FLDC /biz/
we need to pump FLDC /biz/
>we need to pump FLDC /biz/
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>we need to pump FLDC /biz/
we need to pump FLDC /biz/
>we need to pump FLDC /biz/

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guys what the fuck just happened with OKCoin

look how the volume dropped all of a sudden and now the chart looks spotty

what is going on

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Get in on ICN, boys.

>>1675813
nevermind its just cryptowat.ch fucking up

>>1675820
lmao

>>1673592
>start small
>end up with 10k sat
>get greedy
>bet 10k sat on a >9.99 roll
>roll 9.98
>lose everything
and that's why I don't gamble.

>>1663569
So how important is it to get in on this before the countdown is done?

>>1676201

> guy asking the important questions

Please answer

Gridcoin FTW!

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_nxc

LMAO everyone selling as soon as it hit exchange. Was up 530% max when i saw it.

ICO price for NXC was 2-3k i think. Major profits being made

https://www.ccedk.com/ico/beyond-the-void

here is link for ICO

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bagholding 555k of dogecoin i mined in late 2013

is this shit ever going up again?

>>1677942
DOGE should reach 40 sats again if it pumps, but thats a long wait

>>1677942
1 Doge = 1 Doge
what hardware did you use.
Mined like 270k with shitty Nvidia-Laptop

>>1675795
Agree..
I have no idea what happened. I have BELA, SYS and FLDC.
There were news, develop updates and halving, the prices should have go way higher.
I have a feeling that they are being manipulated with high volume and once it's over the prices will skyrocket.

>>1666410
where do i buy ICN?

>>1678045
Kraken or liqui.io

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Why come Kraken can give me an ICN-EUR exchange rate in the balance section, but they can't give me a freaking chart?

Or does it not make sense to directly convert?

Making two conversions (ICN-BTC-EUR) is really screwing with my head.

>>1663501
>>1664264
For bitcoin?
Bitcoin core. Take some time to get to know the interface, and especially take time to download the chainblock wich is 100GB +/- large but then you will have everything in your own control and environment.

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looks like it's that time of the week again I take my icn going up screencaps

you didn't listen guys, you did not listen

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>>1678201
>icn going up

>>1678218
thanks for the reply, it's gonna get added up to the screencap, January is gonna be fucking EPIC

>>1678239
Is there a reason you keep switching IDs in this thread, and in your screencaps?

>>1678256
I'm trying to jew you obviously, anyhow, stay poor see you in January.

and merry Christmas!

>>1678201
>>1678218
>>1678239
>>1678285
Kys

>>1678346
rich people don't kill themselves, breh

ICN platform getting released months earlier than expected.

I will be opening an OFM for /biz/, just a heads up.

>>1678371

I will be 100% open with it. Will be 100% transparent and will show all my favorite TA techniques, fundamentals, why I pick certain coins, etc. Completely open to /biz/ so people can learn to trade crypto efficiently.

>>1678371
>I will be opening an OFM for /biz/,
>>1678372

Nice, when?

>>1678418

2-3 months. I'm waiting for BTC to finally make its move then I'm opening it.

>>1678420
What move?

>>1660633
But >>1660535 was a response to >>1660524. Talk about a redundant post.

>>1665347
I'm having trouble restoring my Litecoin wallet. I installed the software on a fresh Windows install and replaced the stock wallet.dat with my backup one.

The software doesn't get past the splash screen - it just hangs on "Rescanning... 100%".

I hope I haven't lost my wallet.

>>1678421

We're in uncharted waters for BTC. It's never traded this high before without it being parabolic, well most of this year has been like this. So I'm waiting for confirmation of moon or doom, which hasn't been signaled yet.

Also sell ETH if you're in right now. Forum database leak possibly coming out soon.

>>1678494
The growth has been really steady for over a year now. I'm guessing it's just going to keep growing, with maybe a dip right around the ATH because of the psychological barrier (the very same one you're referencing).

>ETH
This include ICN?

>>1678503

DESU, I don't know. A scenario like this hasn't happened before in crypto (well to my knowledge anyways).

>>1678517
I've been reading about buttcoin reaching 2k+ in the msm even, and the potential is there obviously.

>>1678486
I reinstalled the software and decided to let it do its thing with the stock wallet.dat first. Now the splash screen has been stuck on "Loading Wallet..." for the last half hour.

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>>1678555
Then this happened. Can anyone help?

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what's happening to STEEM?

>>1678464
welcome, to the fourchannel

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixgos_xjCkE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixgos_xjCkE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixgos_xjCkE

>>1678486
>>1678555
>>1678624
Sorry bro, I have no idea what's going on or how to help you.

I'm still waiting for someone to answer >>1665347

>>1678494
>ETH
Does this include ICN?

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Wtf?

How can these be different?

They both compare Euros to bitcoin.

coinbase says 761 euros, and kraken says 767 euros.

>>1661927
this

>>1679929

NEW THREAD

>>1679322
it's an average based on the ongoing trades you nigger, different exchanges will have different values.