how does one make it as an artist?

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>>1629472
>Come from a wealthy family
>Don't want to have anything to do with the family business

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find some way to exchange your art for money

You are always a salesman first.

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Draw for more then 9 hours a day for the rest of your life should bring you to a skill level where people will throw money at you to draw something they want to see in your art style

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>>1629472
Only a tiny fraction of artists really make it and play major league.

The rest uses their vast rich & influential network for de facto NEET handouts.

>>1629503
Also, I noticed most of these "average tier" artists get low or shit tier income from their art, especially when netted against their costs. However, they usually have income from capital.

>>1629485
nice pic

What about art that isn't drawn?
Like music for example.
I make electronica with my computer, and other than selling mp3s and tickets to DJ shows, or teaching noob producers, how can I make money?

>>1629509
Draw hentai or become a god.

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>>1629503

>>1629472
all explained here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lATAN7Nn2ng

dieing normally helps

>>1629472
How does one make it as anything?
One word: Innovate

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>>1629472
>how does one make it as an artist?

do art for a rich pedophile network that has connections to the higest level of politics...and who are also into child sacrifice

>>1630000
is this how pedophiles view the world

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>>1630013
>is this how pedophiles view the world

indeed they do and pay good money for it. tony podesta collects this "artist"

>>1629499
just no

>>1629472
You don't very often.

>>1629472

have no morals

be willing to draw fucked up porn for really weird people without question

thats the easy way

hard way is to draw something thats not porn, have it featured at a gallery event, hope some dumb rich snob sees it, likes it and buys it off you.

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>>1630398
>be willing to draw fucked up porn for really weird people without question


THIS

>>1629472
be born into money. conversely
sleep with men for money , then do art with your profits.
conversely .work extremely hard and do art as a hobby till it can support you, which may very welly be never, or too late.

/thread

>>1629499
People who draw make no money

>>1629472
I am a studio assistant for a fairly well known contemporary artist. Essentially the art market currently is based around sculptures and installations. Painting is having a resurgence so studying contemporary painting isn't a complete waste of time so long as the market doesn't drop out you'll do well as it is re-emerging.

Doing well as an artist is understanding the art market fully and being sure that every choice that you make fits your personal trajectory and what you think the market will accept.

Studio work pays well too. 25/hr cash is pretty standard, also working in a fabrication shop or starting one can allow you to produce large scale pieces for very cheap. Art sells by size now and being able to scale your pieces without massive debt is important.

Ask any questions if you want. I spend a lot of time around people in the art world that are successful.

I also collect if anyone has any questions about building equity through art and the process of collecting emerging art on the cheap.

>>1631219
Is your name Niki?

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>>1631219
So op here. Currently right now I'm extremely into graffiti and street art. Draw everyday. Paint every week if not more. Here's a close up of a recent piece. So im going to school part time now to learn stick welding and some basic welding fundamentals in hopes that I can end up welding my art in places. I'm 18. I seriously have a hard on for letters and letter form so I would transfer over the letters into metal art hopefully. This has been done before by this guy name revs. Google revs metal art. Hes a huge inspiration to me. What do you recommend I do on top of this?

>>1631270

Graf is a great starting place. The only thing that I have seen friends do that fucks their careers is they get too deep into street culture and end up not being able to look at the broader art scene.

Art markets like LA are super receptive to artists that started in street art currently. Those Revs pieces seem pretty cool, something more that would be sold in a higher end street shop rather then a gallery though. Being mindful of what pieces can be marketed is big when you aren't a fine artist.

It's hard to make a recommendation with what information I have but I would say just keep your mind open to objects that you see that would accept your lettering/style well. Like maybe you think mailboxes are fucking rad with all red graf on them, remake a mailbox and put your pieces on it. A lot of it is trusting your instinct and staying away from generic shit like spray painting a spray paint can.

Working with concrete is great too. shapecrete is easy and takes paint well since there are no rocks in it. You can make panels or whatever the fuck for under $30 with it.

>>1631260
No, sorry

>>1631270
You could even get these close-ups of your street pieces printed on photo canvases and then spray paint/krink over the photos. That way you have your street shit on display without the possibility of getting busted and it will be a framable piece for critique or sale or whatever.

>>1631371
Oh shit concrete art. Didn't think about that.... Thanks man. I know what youre talking bout with the street seen. People that go legal are called sell outs by the career criminals.

>>1631182
>work extremely hard and do art as a hobby till it can support you, which may very welly be never, or too late.
Ding ding ding desu

>>1631396
Yeah, some people get in so deep that when they go legal they get the shit kicked out of them by there street gangs haha

Shit like that makes intrigue for gallerist and collectors though.

>>1631404
I think op is asking how to make it not be a sad fucking pussy failure

>>1629472

>1) make art
>2) die
>3) ???
>4) profit!

>>1629485
this, or win the meme lottery

Isn't modern art basically just a money laundering scam?

Why don't you sell them a giant rock since Los Angeles paid $10,000,000 for one.

>>1629472
Approach /ic/ for more info but basically: prepare to sell out. Forget artistic integrity, forget "my style", forget about "I only make art when I'm inspired ", forget humility. Some say you should spend as much time marketing yourself as you spend with pencil/brush/stylus in your hand. Oh, and if art was a hobby before? It won't be after.

T. Failed freelance artist

>>1631219
Will be starting a smelting operation soon and will be able to work with any metal with a 2000f or below melting point. What kind of sculptures and installations do people want these days? I mainly started this to make props for a reenactment group and replica-marked roman and bronze age jewelry. I have one person who already volunteered to work for free and is interested in starting forging as well. I'm still not expecting to break big, but I won't turn down profits by any means.

>>1629472
Keep taking creep shots.

>>1633090
>T. Failed freelance artist

Why did you fail, and most importantly, if you failed, why should we listen to your opinion on how to not fail?

>>1629472
luck + skill + timing + audience = wealthy artist

yes i am being serious

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>>1629472
Network.

Namely, try to establish connections with those in the modelling or music industry. Depending on your craft, you can get commissioned to create one-off pieces for individual models (m.i.s.o, for example, commissions jackets and tattoos for celebs and models like Cara Delevigne).

If you are skilled in filmmaking, production or art direction, musicians are your best bet. Ben Swantek is a graphic designer creating album art for musicians, including The Weeknd. Grant Singer is a filmmaker who's done music videos for The Weeknd also.


tl;dr NETWORK.

>>1629472
Who's this semen demon

>>1631270
I think there's a high demand of graffiti artist in silicon valley

>>1629472
A few ways. University/College - no seriously. Networking is the prize goal of getting a job in the industry, wherever it might be. If you go to a decent-good higher education for whatever arts you go into (namely film, 3D, animation) you could very well land a decent job right out of school if you're alright yourself.

The other way is to be talented. If you're good at what you do and the demand for it is greater than supply, then of course you can make ez money. A 16 year old made a game called Unturned on Steam and he's a millionaire now because he targetted children and older adult demographics. 2D Artists now make a living on Patreon where one in particular collects 25-30KUSD every two weeks on it. Sakimichan is a legendary law breaker, look her up.

Ultimately you can just work a "real job" while doing your art on the side. to be pragmatic is to understand that you can fail. Statistics say you will most likely fail. So to be prepared and keep trying with an income behind you is a great way of succeeding. Styxenhammer created Occultist books and now he makes most of his living off of them and Youtube.

Look at fucking Pewdiepie even, you can become a millionaire playing games for performance. The world is your oyster bitch, you can do it.

>>1634093
>>1629472

pretty much, time, money & the will to grind it out

I made it as an artist. I stopped being an artist and became a biznesman

>>1629731
this

>>1629472
SAUCE ME UP

>>1637012
>>1633447

My guess is emily grey, not 100% sure though. (and yea she does porn)

>>1633349
I failed for the reasons I mentioned. I approached it as a hobby and never really shook that mindset, didn't market myself aggressively enough, etc. In the end I decided it would never be my day job and would be a sideline at best.

Why should anybody listen to me? Well there's no gun to your head, but you can sometimes learn from another's failure rather than having to experience it personally.

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>>1630000
>>1630026