Temporary Foreign Workers

As a white Canadian who worked in fast food we had 27 employees and 3 where white but 1 quit within a month so it was 2. Was there 2 years and it was the worst bcause they spoke their foreign language all the time and made me isolated.

Then I moved to a small town and it's all young white people. It's much nicer.

It has been proven by Europeans that happy white countries don't prepare for anything until all hell breaks loose. GL

>>1627404
Frees up natives for management positions. Look at Dubai

>>1627404
Lowering labor costs results in companies being able to invest in other sectors. They may do share buybacks with the excess capital, but remember these will raise the stock price and can therefore benefit your everyday Joe who invests.

That being said, there is definitely the social problem of importing more people when you already have such a high rate of people wihtout work. I'm not sure how things are in Canada, but here in America there are nearly 100 million who are outside of the labor force- meaning they haven't looked for a job in the past four weeks. Though this classification includes students and retirees, that means there's like at least 20 million at a minimum who have just given up looking for jobs. On top of that, having a job in your teen years is a formative experience for most and by importing cheap labor, most of these get eliminated. On top of this, most of them vote Democrat in America so it basically gives them a socialist one party state in a few generations.

I'd say there's a net economic gain, but no net social gain. I'm against.

>>1627457
UAE has large participation of the state in the economy and greased it with oil revenues, like every other Arab country.

Even with its massive oil reserves, Canada can't do anything along those lines, much less the United States.

>>1627404
>the produce only needs to compete in Canada.
Not even that far.

the product only needs to compete locally. People aren't going to drive 25 miles to save $1 on a maple syrup burger or whatever it is tim hortons sells.

>>1627404
American who lives far from mexico here.

We have the same issue. I cook with a bunch of fun white guys in their 20's. Pay is shit, but they look the other way when we drink and smoke on the clock. Asian place next door has a crew of Hispanic cooks who all work 72 hours a week. They are generally cools guys who know English. We hired a 100% legal Mexican who wanted to call ICE on their asses in his 1st week. No way they can afford 32 hours of OT a week per person on the books.

>I can see an industry like Ag where our produce must compete on a world market, we could not simply eat the cost of higher production and business would fail

Forcing out immigrant labor would push wages higher in the short run and automation later on. Where I live farms can run on young white kids wanting to live the country life. IMO there are many inefficiencies in agriculture that could easily be solved to keep prices stable while having a 100% American workforce.

>>1627466
>100 million aren't working
I'd like to see a citation on that. I have a hard time believing one third of the us pop isn't working

>>1627492
>what is google?

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12300000

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>>1627492
It's just the labor force participation rate. It measures who is in the labor force.

The labor force is the sum of employed (people with jobs) and unemployed (people without jobs but have looked in the past 4 weeks).

The labor force participation rate is the ratio of the labor force to the adult population. If the ratio is 60%, then 40% of the adult population is not working or looking for jobs. This number includes students and retirees, so it can be somewhat unreliable, but it's not like over the past 15 years we've had that many people retiring or studying.

>>1627510

Yeah just boomers retiring and the largest surge of people going to college we've ever had thanks to all the loan subsidization that's going on.

Do you even read your posts?

>>1627524
I assumed he was being sarcastic since '08 saw a monumental collapse in employment that still hasn't recovered and probably never will.

>>1627466
Couldn't republicans stop being racially divisive and win a fuck ton of them back?

I mean, bringing back HW's Days of Glory would be nice.

>>1627532
Unlikely. Democrats have beaten Republicans on identity politics. It'd be very difficult to cut through all of the mainstream media and their associates like the Huffington Post pushing SJW propaganda down the throats of immigrants.

The children of illegals will probably grow up shitty and will hate the country if their parents get deported, so they'll probably vote for the party that shames White America (aka Democrats).

I honestly wish it weren't this way, as I said before there's clear economic benefits from this. I wish we could live in some Bush Republican paradise where Hispanics join our natural conservative coalition. Unfortunately, it's just not practical on either side. Hispanics won't vote for conservatives and conservatives won't turn out for a Hispanic-outreach party

>>1627466
>Lowering labor costs results in companies being able to invest in other sectors.

I'm not sure on this. Every fast food joint seems to hire TFW's so there is no gain for them, essentially they are all still on the same playing field and I would think their prices would have all dropped slightly. They may have a competitive advantage to start with but eventually it will vanish as all their competitors employ TFW's instead of citizens.

I am wondering how many marginal businesses would fail if they had no access to TFW's. Something like picking apples in the Okanagan seems very difficult to automate, and you have to compete with apples from the US picked by cheap Mexican labor.

Also does it make sense to import any workers at all, even highly skilled ones? I'm not sure their a net gain either, it seems to me the only people who are a sure gain are people with lots of money who are likely highly skilled but not necessarily.

>>1627457
>Frees up natives for management positions. Look at Dubai

I would agree with >>1627470

UAE government essentially subsidizes their own people with their oil revenue. I can't recall the exact numbers but something like over half of people do not work and most of the rest work for the government and are very well paid to do so. So you will have the father who works for the govt and his entire (generally large) family that he supports from that. There is considerable worry that since the govt purse strings have been tightened they may not be able to pay their people to play nice and they could easily have a revolt on their hands.

It's not a great solution for Canada as we are broke and setting ourselves up for a legislated economic depression anyways.