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>>1562917
> Tell:

> your job
Minimum wage security guard
> your qualifications
High School, Security Licence, Literate
> your pay
$16/hr, 13 hours a day, 5 days a week
> what you have to say about it
I'm an alcoholic and a failure

> optional:

> your country
Alberta, Canada
> your age
21

>>1562965
Hey man, I'm sad to hear that about yourself, don't hate yourself because of that, didn't you even tried to get a better job?

>>1562965
Forgot to add, I'm thinking of studying part time next year.

This job is a joke. They practically pay me to sit.

Before I was 20 I was perpetually unemployed.
>>1562967
I spent years unemployed, living in my mom's house.

I need to hop on the knowledge economy. Unskilled work is pure cancer.

>>1562969
what are you going to study?

well, at least the pay doesn't seem too bad.

i am afraid of getting shitty jobs for the rest of my life, but at the same time i don't know what exactly to study and I feel like I am wasting time

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>>1562917
>Job
Full time student and ad hoc contracting (labour, etc.)

>Qualifications
Highschool, almost a certificate in health science

>Pay
$60/week (allowance)
$15.75 - 16/hr for labour contracts

>What I have to say
I'm going to university next year and going to study Law and Commerce. (IT major)

>Country
New Zealand

>Age
18

>>1562969
That sounds like a really good idea, what are you planning on studying? Yes, unskilled work is cancer and you should really get out of there as soon as you can.

You're 21, you're not as big of a failure people who are older who are still unemployed (whom I know). Don't beat yourself up over it, you've still got time.

>>1562917
What are you thinking of studying OP, a good way to begin is by crossing off everything you don't want to do, and then working from there.

I can give some advice if you need it, since I left high school I've spent the most of this year deciding what I was going to study at university (From international law and business to medicine or biomedicine, and then finally deciding on my contrastingly different Law and Commerce papers).

>>1562983
I think you are going in a good path anon, keep going.

Well, I like the programming area, the only thing from keeping me away is the shitty pays in almost everywhere. The job search is big but the general pay is horrible. Also it's an area any new guy with knowlege in another technology will easly take off your job.
I also really cinema and history, these things are too far away from each other but are things that always got me in making hobbies related to it.
I'm also 18

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>>1562994
You want to fill out the template you've put in the OP?

I have heard a lot of stories of ex-programmers who just couldn't tolerate the field any longer. They worked hard, in shitty conditions, but got paid less than the other easier fields (i.e Solution Architects, which I am unashamedly working my degree towards) who were doing the same projects, in different roles.

The main problem I had with selecting a degree and a career is that I'm actually interested in most things, and so picking something that I was especially interested in was difficult. However, it's a bonus because I am doing something I am interested in which also earns a lot. Solution architects earn a lot of money. Ideally though, I want to get into management as soon as I can. I have laid out quite a lot of career pathways, but it's determinant a lot on my circumstances at the time haha (I've got career and academic outlines going up to 2026).

If you enjoy programming, cinema and history have you considered animation or anything along those lines? Ideally, you want to combine good pay, personal interest, and room for improvement (promotions, upskilling, etc..). Obviously I can give better, less general advice if I know more about you, and your circumstances, etc..

>>1563021

> your job
currently I am looking for something just to fill the gap, some part time that is worth the time

> your qualifications
i finished highschool last summer, i was in a professional course that had programming and networking

i've had a internship so i know how it is inside the market

> your country
Portugal

I've heard about guys with college done that can't even make 1000€ a month, and even guys with masters degree struggle to find a job better than that. It pisses me off because I feel like I will study and spend my time, to get a shitty job and then keep studying for the rest of my life so I am always on track of new shit.

>History
I always loved History, since a kid, I was curious about it (since medieval age, to contemporanean), learned a lot, my teachers loved me because of that, I was a master, I could say, but I don't really know how are jobs in this area

>Cinema
I've always love producing little movies and also did some as a kid, I love to write stories and also some of my teachers pointed this out. Some loved my stories and writings and said I was creative.

>Animation
I considered it once, but then I got remembered I really suck at drawing and arts in general, I am enthusiast of the subject but I don't have the skills.

Well, when I was a kid I also loved physics but that dream soon died because I am just not smart enough for it.

In a way I know how you feel. I like many subjects and sometimes I get in attention of new things and try to learn new things just for the fun of it.
I like to learn, but picking up it's hard, I feel like it's too soon to choose but at the same time I feel like wasting time.

Also a big thanks for helping me out.

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>>1563043
I had a really long post, but then my browser crashed.

Essentially what I said was:
> A career in history doesn't have many jobs, and they're all low paid (teaching, historical adviser) except a professor role at a university, but that's extremely difficult to get.
> Portugal, it sounds like you've got a lot of programmers but not enough programming work. The opposite is the case in NZ, so a programmer will always have a job, but it is low paid.
> Cinema & Animation
I don't think there's any programming work that isn't related with drawing and arts to some extent in the film industry, but I could be wrong.

Ultimately, my suggestion was. If you're not 100% sure about programming as a career have you looked into the related jobs in IT for example systems administration, systems analysis, etc..
Those jobs are more business and IT orientated instead of programming but that's got a benefit for the following reason:

If you're a good programmer, you will get better pay for the same job. If you're a good (systems administration, analysis, etc..), you will get better pay for an easier job. As one can be promoted through management, etc.. whereas programmers won't because they're best role is in programming.

I know people who've got this problem (too good at technical work, so they can't get promoted or new jobs for easier, better paying work)

I hope this is helpful, my lost post may have been better but oh well.

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>>1563098
I can always keep history as an hobby, I really enjoy it.

I will try to reach out to people who work in animation to more details.

Well, yes, I can always take the Computer Engineering course and then decide what I want, sadly I can only do that next year, but I will hopefully get my driver's license until there. If I really end up keeping in the technology area I can take the general course and then decide my specialization in the masters, maybe I get better opportunities and jobs than I expect.

But anon, thank you, for real, the answer to my indecisions may seem obvious but sometimes we need someone to look to our side to see the things with different eyes.

I will hopefully get in the right track and thanks once again for taking time to talk with me about it.

> your job
Network Technician
> your qualifications
Cert IV Network Engineering
> your pay
$82,000 AUD
> what you have to say about it
Great job, everything provided, car, phone etc. But I don't want to be working here for 35 years like everyone around me because it's too comfy. I can feel myself growing complacent. I want to be out of tech in the next 5 years and hopefully try and get an entry level job in finance somewhere so I can get work experience to take CFA1 exam which I'm self-studying at the moment.
>your country
Australia
>your age
22 (started 18)

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>>1562917
>aerospace fatigue and damage tolerance engineer
>BS in Mechanical Engineering, working on an MS in Aerospace Engineering
>~$80k
It's alright. Can be really boring and stressful simultaneously, plus the job market is pretty bad right now. My goal is to finish my degree and transition to structural dynamics/acoustics, especially for space stuff

>24
>'murica

>>1563180
>Cert IV Network Engineering
You took the regular college?

>$82,000 AUD
A year? That's huge man, congrats.

>finance
what got you so interested in it? and how easy or hard is to teach yourself?

By the way, do you notice any code etiquete in companies? For example not allowing people with tattoos working or being judged?

>>1563189
That is interesting as hell, anything in special you worked you'd like to share? Space enthusiast here

How long until you finish your MS?

cell phone salesmen

2 years of car sales and 7 years of customer service wage slave

2 year criminal justice degree

USA

cell phone sales = hell for 48k a year could drone on, but retail sales commission is the most absolute soul draining atmosphere ever created.

>>1563224
you never followed criminal justice?

also going to sleep, 4am here, hope the thread is here tomorrow

>>1563227

yes part time law enforcement work 1-3 shifts a month in a small ass town. in my state impossible to get a full time gig 1 job opens up and every military good ole boy gets the job or the chief's cousin's son.

>>1563209
I actually got in with a traineeship straight out of highschool with my company (The largest telco in Australia) and did 2 years of training with them at $10-12/hr which had on the job training with 8 weeks spread across the year of class based work where we got our cert III and IV, then after the two years most of us got offers of full time employment at about $65000 a year. That was nearly two years ago, and I've just been promoted recently to recognise that I've been doing higher level work the last year or so than my original pay-level.

Yeah, pay is great, considering most people I know are still at uni/working retail, and even when they graduate they would struggle to make that figure for years, but I think I'm about at my pay ceiling unless I deeply specialise in a certain technology, but it's a lot more work for not much more pay, and while being a great job I'm kinda sick of being in tech. And finance and investing is something that just really interests me.
And I've been studying some online CFA training courses in Coursera/Udemy/wiki/investopedia and it's not too hard, but a fair bit of work. But I have no real out of work commitments so I have a lot of free time.

>By the way, do you notice any code etiquete in companies? For example not allowing people with tattoos working or being judged?
In my area my team is a mix of field and office staff, and some inbetween (like myself) so most of them are pretty blokey blokes, especially field staff and a lot have tattoos and don't mind swearing and stuff in conversation with managers, but it entirely depends on the company.

>>1562917
>your age
22, 3 months out of college
>your job
IT Rotational program
>your qualifications
BS in IT, internship
>your pay
$76,000
>what you have to say about it
I get a 10% raise every year and I'll be manager level sometime in the next 4 years. However, I still feel like I'm a failure wagecuck and I want more out of life.

> your job

Retail Pharmacy

> your qualifications

HS Diploma

> your pay

$12/hr

> what you have to say about it

Mixed feelings on it. On one hand, I feel as though my kindness gets taken advantage of, and I end up doing more than I'm supposed to do. The work isn't a big deal, sometimes it just fucks with my ego. On the other hand there's a lot of workplace drama that I'm exempt from because of it. It's nice to get a free pass from just about everything for being nice. I transfer to university next year anyhow so I figure it's best to tough it out and get some extra cash.

>your country

U.S

>your age

21

>>1562965
Bro your 21 you can go do something else faggot

>your age
19
>your job
web developer (15 hours/week)
>your qualifications
currently in 1st year of a commerce degree (engineering sequence)
>your pay
$20/hour
>what you have to say about it
the job is completely automated, anyone could do what I do. I have to make contact with clients, which will look good on the resume. I want to start my own business, so I don't know if I'll stay here much longer.

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>>1563462
I'm currently getting into web development.
Could you explain how your job is completely automated? Do you do back or front end dev?

>>1563241
Telstra detected. Their upper management sucks though I take it, given recurring issues with the network which similarly sent vodafone down the toilet years ago. I knew an executive who got sacked for vodafone's shitty performance lol. Whereabouts are ya, Western sydney or melb i take it?

>>1563569
Melbourne.

And yeah, we've taken a beating this year as reflected in share price. We've had more than a few executives shuffled around in and out and it will probably continue on for a while.

The specific area I'm in will be fine for mid term (3-5years) as what we do there isn't many alternatives and it's too high level to contract out, high speed point to point data links between data centres, 10gbps-1tbps, so I'm not too concerned about my future despite other areas taking losses in redundancies over the last year (120 voluntary redundancies nationally in transport networks and 35 involuntary in network design)

But long term I want to get out. It's still got a lot of things left over from it's public Telecom days and one of those is the 'job for life' mentality. Most of those redundancies are taken by guys who've been in 30 or 40 years. Never worked a different job because it's too comfy and too easy. If they want to make more money they just work more hours and get overtime, but they never advance in their life. They all think they've got it all figured out, that anyone above them making decisions and more money are idiots who don't know what they're doing because they haven't been working there since the 70's and I would hate my life if I ended up like one of them.

But it's hard because I'm four years out of highschool where I graduated with passes in everything and not much else and everyone I know is either still at uni or have graduated and working dead end jobs making a third what I do.
It's very hard to think about giving that up when I know that if I spent 4 years and $60,000 going to uni I would be lucky to graduate with a job making half what I do now.
/lifestory

>>1563584
>10gbps-1tbps
Whoops, I meant 10gbps-8tbps
It's 1terabyte, but 8.8terabits

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>>1562917
>> your job
Front end dev and email automation
>> your qualifications
8 years trolling and unrelated BS
>> your pay
$62k
>> what you have to say about it
Tedious data entry. I need to move up and be able to tell some poor minion (me) what to do on a whim. Also looking at getting a Masters.
>>your country
US
>>your age
29

>>1563227
I have a 4 year CJ degree.

Don't want to play the race card, but I couldn't get on in big towns despite perfect written and physical scores.

When I went for orals, somehow I was weeded out along with my pale skin friends and the recruiting classes were all black or female.

>>1563212
I think it's a pretty neat job as structural engineering goes, especially since the stuff you worry about is, "will this part last 20 years, as it should, or less?"

I'm hoping with the rising popularity of reusable rockets my field will become more relevant there. If not, vibration and acoustics should br pretty relevant.

Probably won't finish my MS until 2018,and I might get a cert in composite materials after that. I have no idea what it takes to break into someplace like SpaceX or the Spaceship company, or Boeing/Airbus on their space division s, but hopefully it's enough. Wish me luck bros

lol @ this thread, i'm in finance and making 150k my first year out

> Job
Mobile App Developer

> qualifications
BA in computer science

> pay
70k

> Notes
First job after graduating in May. Was my second application. Work's been great and fun. Sometimes my eyes hurt when I go home.

> County
USA
> Age
23

When you guys post yearly wages is that before or after tax?

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>>1563693
Pre.

Mine goes from $62k to $36k after taxes, insurance, and a minimal 401.

>>1563693
In Burger land expect to lose 20%
Then about a thousand goes towards my rent. I net about 2000.

>>1563409
Don't try to hide your desire to be dominated. Lots of people are subs and live happy, healthy lives, you'll probably be happier with yourself if you embrace your position. Do you need that boi pucci gaped?

>job
I worked for a disaster relief company
They let me go on monday
>qualifications
None really, just work experience
>pay
It was 14/hr which wasn't great but it paid the bills, now Im not sure what to do, I can barely get out of bed and I'm having panic attacks again
>what you have to say about it
It was the most boring shit I've ever done, 12 hour shifts, 6-7 days a week, just cleaning the same shit all day. They don't give a fuck about there employees and it's unbelievable the shit they get away with

u.s. 20

>>1563704
>this Nigga
Please, I make 42k and end up around 35k after tax, insurance and 401k. Some one is eating your money if you are losing nearly half at the end of the year. Do you ebin look at your w-2?

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>>1563236
well, that sucks, not getting a proper job because of those guys, but well, maybe you will get a full time one soon

>>1563241
That's amazing, for someone who took a professional course at highschool in IT (including programming, hardware and networking) would you think make a traineeship like you did would be a good thing? How many time was the trainsheep and were the exams?

If you ever specialized in a certain technology what would you go for? Well dude, if you really are passionate about finance go for it, I know the pays are way better and most guys even get their own office.

And about the tattoos that is amazing because I like tattoos myself and I will be probably really tattooed with time and not being excluded will be nice.

>>1563380
The pay is not too bad.
Why not you start getting into stock?

>>1563409
Are you going to work in anything medicine related in universty? Like field investigation?

>>1563462
Did you get the job without being on university?

>>1563609
Tbh with the pay you have I wouldn't mind some tedious data entry. Btw, how is the industry in the US?

>>1563626
i feel you were prejudiced for being a white boy, which is way wrong if you were a good student

>>1563642
Good luck bro! I think you working for SpaceX would be really nice, but I also have no idea what to get in there. Elon Musk is a god.

>>1563652
Do you have masters?

>>1563717
why don't you try to get a part time job and go to uni?

>>1563728
>why don't you try to get a part time job and go to uni?
If I worked part time it'd have to be like 18/hr to pay rent, utilities, insurance, gas & food. I can't live with either of my parents.
Im not sure uni would do me any good, for one im trying to avoid debt since all I do is pay bills, I'm not sure what I'd go for, and I don't have a great track record of seeing things through to the end.
Thinking about just selling drugs cause I'm tired and broke

>>1563750
you are paying rent? maybe you can get for a smaller house for a while and then invest some money

>>1562917
> your job
Electrical Design Engineer
> your qualifications
Bachelor of electrical engineering
> your pay
10k €/year
> what you have to say about it
Sucks hard
>your country
Croatia
>your age
31

I'm considering same job (Senior Lead El. Engineer) in UK, London. How much should I ask for salary? How much I need in London?
Help me /biz/

>>1563728
nope, 22 y/o. seems like tech is a dead end career, do you guys ever get paid more than 250k?

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>>1563756
Does the pay sucks because of your country? (Don't get me wrong here) There is not a big market in tech there?

>>1563757
>250k
In my country, getting 250k a year is an amazing thing, but idk how it is out there, I am just trying to get some motivation and do the freaking exams.

> your job
Mechanical engineer
> your qualifications
B.S. in Mech.Eng. and 2.5yrs "trade school" as an industrial mechanic
> your pay
45k Eurobugs before taxes
> what you have to say about it
Breddy gut job. 30 days paid leave and an extra months salary for christmas.
All in all I'm in the Top 20% here. Education is for free, but I would rather have people pay for it.

Taxation here sucks.
19% VAT, 70% Tax on fuel, etc.
Housing is really unaffordable.
My take home pay is about 2200 per month.
Plan on working in the USA in about 2 years.

Our social security systems are about to break and I don't plan on paying for the wet dreams of an old socialist.
>your country
Germany
25

>>1563760
>Does the pay sucks because of your country?
Yes, and because of my employer?
700 €/month is country average. I get 800 €.

>>1563760
by all means 250k is great, but that's probably the max you'll get paid in tech. to me, that's kind of disheartening. compare to finance where you can pull 7 figures as an MD and maybe even 8 figures as a partner.

>>1563765
Well at some point you can just become team leader/architect/senior dev/product owner, or even start your own business and make whatever you want.

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>>1563763
It seems good, the only thing here sucking is the taxes, and I get a taste of how it is. Portugal here, EU wants us to be cucks of them and even pay them more and we are standing up against it.

>>1563764
Well, at least you are above average. I know IT in Britain is paid at price of gold, at least the last time I head of it.

>>1563765
If I was better with maths I would consider finances. Also I'm a guy who likes alternative style (tattoos and stuff), I don't think that fits very well in the standards of a finance guy.

>>1563776
you don't do any math above calc 1 unless your a strats guy (and they get paid less than everyone else). the alternative style and tats will definitely not fly though

>>1563784
that's why tech will be confy for me, I have a face piercing and a tattoo already and everyone was nice to me on my internship

>>1563776
Without the EU our economy wouldn't be doing so great. The main problems here are german-made.
Stupid Eu-legislation is just a cherry on our shitcake.

>>1563799
So I guess only benefits for emigrants and only shit for natives?

>your job
IT Specialist (internship)
Going to school, senior. Getting a BBA in Management Information Systems.
> your qualifications
None really, just kinda of did ad-hoc IT in previous jobs.
> your pay
$16
> what you have to say about it
I don't know much as I thought I did, but I think I'm picking it up well. The main IT guy is a big turbonerd so I can speak that language and he seems to like me. Honestly though I don't want to do IT. I'm there to learn more about their ERP system. I want to be a data analyst or consultant and maybe move into selling ERP systems.

optional:

>your country
US
>your age
26

>>1563807
Nah. Benefits for all suckers.
The natives "forgot" to have enough children and our federal retirement fund is kind of a pyramid scheme.
I don't care for those "refugees". They're just going to make our decay faster.

>>1563813
All I hear from US about tech related jobs and learning and everything seems so much better than here in my country and EU in general

>>1563821
Well, I just hope someone comes and makes Europe great again, or we are all fucked. More and more I think Brexit was a good thing

> your job
Data center technician.

> your qualifications
20 years of doing this already.

> your pay
$68,000 base, $110,000 with bonuses and OT.

> what you have to say about it
Sucks ass. Can't wait until retirement.

>your country
United States.

>your age
40.

>>1563857
You took any college? Or just got the experience yourself?

Don't get a job in tech. This is one of the most low paid, high stress, over-skilled, information-overloading, and humiliating careers possible compared to the amount you get paid to do it.

You'll become a human compiler and get paid fuck all to do it.

>>1564134
So what should I do?

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> your job
Senior Penetration Tester
> your qualifications
10 years experience in ethical hacking, programming (C, C#, php, perl, java, x86 assembly, python, ruby), 5 years experience in reverse engineering for the x86 / 64 platform as well as the android platform, network protocols, malware / viruses, and exploits. 4 years experience in exploit development.
CEH, Sec+. OSCP, GREM
> your pay
120k at one job, 110k at the other.
> what you have to say about it
If you love what you do, you never work a day in your life. I love what I do and would recommend it to others.

optional:

>your country
USA
>your age
30

No college degree btw. Degree fags can suck it.

>>1564140
If I could start again I'd probably get a trade, desu. Tradesmen only have to learn their skills once and the jobs they do are predictable and low-risk compared to running software engineering projects. Furthermore, I guarantee you they have more job security and earn higher than most people in tech (especially freelancers.)

Even cleaners can earn a fuck load per hour in the right gig. It's just insane how much a developer has to do to get hired and maintain employment ... Even the simple stuff like web development now has multiple sub-specializations. Saved this post about web tech but as a dev its highly accurate:

a server-side language
how to talk to a database (SQL)
HTML
CSS
JavaScript
The concept of a virtual machine
Vagrant with a pre-built image (Laravel Homestead)
SSH
Version control (Git)
A branching/merging process (Git Flow)
Gulp
Node.js (for running Gulp)
Homebrew
/etc/hosts file (or Dnsmasq)
CSS pre-processors (Bootstrap was already using Less, I am using Sass)
CSS concatenation
JavaScript concatenation
Image sprites
A server-side framework (Laravel)
Framework-specific command line utilities for creating template files, running pre-load optimizations, database commands, etc.
ORM
Security (SQL injection, XSS, CSRF, etc.)
Templating syntax (Laravel uses one called Blade)
A client-side framework (jQuery, Bootstrap, Angular, etc.)
JSON
PHP Composer
PHP Packages
Database migrations (database schema defined in code)
Database seeding
Faker (for creating dummy data)
Unit testing
Memcached (or other key/value caches)
Capistrano (or another deployment process)
CDNs

Believe me, that's only just scratching the surface and web devs still get paid fuck all and have to compete with Indians for $2. Comp sci graduates fare slightly better ofc - but you will arill be 100% replaceable once you become a "senior" dev because the cognitive burden of this profession is such that young devs do the same job as older ones (better some would say) for cheaper.

>>1564155
If you got no degree, when you started how it was to get a job?

>>1564157
Shit, that is really a lot man, so do you think you are prejudiced because the tech industry sucks nowadays or you don't have a degree?

> your job
"Certified Professional" House Cleaner

> your qualifications
Highschool diploma, A+ Diploma, Net+ Certification, 9 years help desk experience, some college credits toward Accounting

> your pay
$10/hr while cleaning, $8.38/hr while traveling. If I call out 1 day, it turns into $9.50/hr while cleaning. Call out 2 days, turns into $9/hr while cleaning.

> what you have to say about it
Live in the 'burbs, worked in the city for a help desk. Commute got to be too much (60 miles one-way), management wouldn't show any courtesy for "tardiness" (1-3 minutes late, no grace-period) and the company was advancing under-qualified people for positions I was qualified for. No tech jobs in the 'burbs. I am just barely making end's meet and an unable to save any money. Became an alcoholic this year. Job searches fuel my depression.

>your country
NJ, USA

>your age
28 - white male

>>1564213
Is that really the best job you can get? Being a maid?

>>1564213
How many hours you do per week? Do you work on weekends?

>>1564155
>no degree
>pen tester

neat

software engineer here with no degree, how did you get your start into pen testing?

did you want to be that "hacker kid"?
ill be honest and say thats how i got into programming

>>1564157
>HTML
>CSS
2 days of learning
>SSH
ssh [email protected], (so hard m8)
>Git
not complicated too
>Node.js (for running Gulp)
if you're using it only for gulp, you don't have to know much
>Gulp
>CSS concatenation
>JavaScript concatenation
Why not use webpack ?
>A client-side framework (jQuery, Bootstrap, Angular, etc.)
jQuery can be learnt in a day, bootstrap is easy too
>JSON
lol'd, why even list it here ? you can learn to use it in 10 minutes, unless you're completely retarded.

Do you work in webdev ? If you do, I'm curious, how much you get paid ?

>>1564236
In my area, yes. I live on the Jersey Shore - no tech jobs, no full-time retail jobs...it's all seasonal tourist shit around here. I want to move away so badly but I don't have any money saved and nobody is willing to help a network tech relocate. Been on the hunt since May - nothing but house cleaning and hospitals offering full-time around here.

>>1564246
I did 38-40 hours per week during the summer but these last two weeks I've only seen 35-36 hours. My car took a shit a week after I was hired so my boss took my raise away since it was in the job description that I must have a working vehicle.

>>1564268
The pay could be worse desu. It is good enough to live, but not for savings.

>>1564272
>It is good enough to live, but not for savings.
That's no success, anon. That's being trapped.

>>1563765
Finance is broad - what field would make you that kind of money??

>>1562917
Oh awesome, I just got a new job this week so I'll post.

> your job
Linux Technical Support (Customer Service) for a VPS company

> your qualifications
Recently passed Linux Essentials exam and have been teaching myself about IT for a few months

> your pay
$45k + sweet perks and bennies

> what you have to say about it
I start in 2 weeks, guess I will find out lol

>your country
USA (New Jersey)

>your age
24

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>>1564276
I know, it sucks, but at least you are not starving, you always find a better job as soon as you move out.

>>1564278
The pay seems sweet, you also don't have a degree?

>>1564281
>but at least you are not starving
The only reason I'm not starving is because my folks took me back in.

>as soon as you move out
Can't move out if I can't give first and last month's rent plus security deposit.
Can't save for rent/deposit, or a new car.

>>1564281
I have a BS in Finance from MSU. After working a few years in finance I decided to make the switch to IT. I saved up like a year's worth of expenses then quit my job, and spent the last few months researching the field to pick a niche and then teaching myself enough to land an entry-level job. I think as long as you know the material, nobody gives a shit whether you have a degree or not. For me, it seems to be working out pretty well because I just saved tens of thousands by not going back to school for a CS degree. In the future if my company pays for it, I would like to go back to school. But from all my research, it didn't seem necessary. I think that people also respect when you're self-taught. It shows drive and passion.

>>1564290
It sucks man, I hope you get some luck and something else appears and you can improve your life. Good luck.

>>1564304
I can say I know quite a bit of some languages because of my professional course. Sometimes I lurk on Code Academy too. Anything else that you do recomend?
The thing here is all job descripitons ask for a degree and it sucks.

>>1564304
How's the money compared to finance?

>>1564317
Thanks, anon - I do appreciate the sentiment but hope for me is wearing thin.

>>1564336
Dude, I really can't imagine how it can be for you, but I think there should be always hope, never give up.

>>1564344
Thing is if you're hope doesn't pay off it becomes a crushing blow.

Next week will be 6 months since I quit my help desk job. My savings will be depleted, my job prospects are scarce, and I'm scrubbing toilets to just barely scrape by. This is not a positive situation, and there's no light at the end of this tunnel that I can see.

But thank you for your encouragement, and for letting me vent. It's just one can only hold onto hope for so long before reality sets in and you realize you're almost 30 working a dead-end job for meager pay and living with Mom and Dad again. Most people have their shit together by now.

>>1564317

>Anything else that you do recomend?
Yes, find your niche and then focus on it. I decided that I wanted to focus on cloud technology because it seems like there's a lot of room for growth and it's relatively new. For this field, you need to know Linux. So I got a subscription to Linux Academy and studied until I passed the Linux Essentials certification, then went on to different courses. I'm now working on going for Linux+ / LPIC and some kind of cloud certification. Give yourself some structure. Learning on your own can be hard because there's so, so much out there to choose from. But once you have some clearly defined goals, it becomes a lot easier and more manageable.

>The thing here is all job descripitons ask for a degree and it sucks.
Here's the thing- When a hiring manager posts a list of requirements on a job posting, those aren't really requirements. That's a wish list for their perfect candidate. They will, more often than not, settle for a candidate who doesn't hit every bullet point but who they can teach. So apply anyway, worst thing that can happen is they say no. For example, this job wanted a degree, experience, etc. I just sent them a good cover letter stating that I'm self-motivated and willing to learn, and detailed what I've been doing. The IT field is desperate for capable people. If you can demonstrate that you have a capacity to learn and you're not a moron, you should be ok.

>>1564325
Well this is my first job and it seems comparable, with a better lifestyle and perks. My first financial analyst job out of college was 44k with a 5k bonus, pretty standard bennies like 401k match and 2 weeks PTO.

This first IT job is at 45k with bonus, almost 4 weeks PTO, company supplied macbook, reimbursed education and training, health insurance, wellness allowance, etc etc etc the list goes on and on.

Plus the people are cool, they really like what they're doing compared to the assholes in finance who are just blindly chasing money. Working in finance completely turned me off once I realized that 90% of the people were just counting down the hours until Friday/their retirement.

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>Systems admin, though most of it is pretty much 1st/2nd line support
>A+, Network+, degree in Computer Network Security
>£28,000
>it's fucking shit, I hate my life and I want to die

>UK
>24

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>>1564366
Unfortunly, I don't know what else to say to you, I'm too young and I don't know much about life yet, but I'm also scared of the future.
I hope you taking this out help you felt better this way. The last advice I can give is even without hope, don't get lost, don't get lost in drugs or in alchool, because it is the worse path you cold go.
Thirtys are the new twentys, I know people who only found their true passion around the thirtys and ended up really good. Even without hope, be strong, don't let the world beat you down.

>>1564374
>Linux Essentials certification
Where did you take the exam? I would also like to know more about cloud computing since is something so big right now.

>those aren't really requirements
This gives me a little hope, maybe I can already get a job in tech and get some experience while learning new things.

>>1564392
You are still young, why not take a master degree and specialize in something?

>>1562965
This gif explains why so many ancient statues are missing heads.

>>1564397
Thanks, anon - hanging in for the time being.

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>>1564397

I could do a masters but I kinda like saving money, I've managed to get £15k in stocks and a masters is so expensive, it'll basically deplete everything I have. I don't know if I like IT since I never really learned to code beyond basic Java :(

>>1564424
Try Codeacademy for some quick learning. Most of POO languages like Java are similar, as long you know the syntax. So if you know Java you can easly learn C#, C++ and so on. And that nowadays gives you the possibilty to work in many platform including mobile.

>>1564422
No problem man, I always like to help other people.

>>1564429

I just don't know if I even want to work in IT anymore, I don't think I'd enjoy coding. But it just seems like there are no other jobs outside of IT apart from finance

>>1564447
Well, the other anon up there was on IT and wanted to start working on finance, if it's something you like the pay is way better.

>>1562917

>Technical Project Manager/COO
>B.S. in Industrial Engineering
>80k/year + minor equity in the company
>I really enjoy it. It's at a software start-up, so I'm getting an assload of great experience and there is hardly ever a boring day.

>USA
>26

Other tidbits:
Almost all of the technology is outsourced; programming, server hosting, accounting, etc.

We have a skeleton crew, essentially. Anything that isn't essential to have on-site or isn't client facing is outsourced.

once the app com 2: electric boogaloo bubble bursts it looks like the bulk of the people in this thread will be unemployed.

>>1564495
Startups are the shit! I bet all the crew is amazing

>>1564529
Can you develop on this?

> Pizzamaker
> Made Pizza all through school causing me to dropout of school from overload. Was in a shit tier degree anyway.
> 20/hr + 1/hr tips
> It kind of sucks sometimes thinking all of society generally looks down on me. Feelsshit.

optional:

>24
>Canada

>>1564551
How many hours a week?
And I don't look down on you mate, if we want the services we need to respect and apreciate the people who make them for us.

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> Tell:

> your job
Unemployment : ex- IT bitch
> your qualifications
AA degree in managment, 4 year schooldrop out (useless classes, refused to let me into accounting, overcrowding from international students)
> your pay
450 a week, and $80 under table IT/bookkeeper for millionare neighbor
> what you have to say about it
got fired due to DUI (my bosses boss loathed me, and was forced to hire me due to gov merit based hiring rules)
> optional:

> your country
Bay area, Usa> Tell:

> your job
Minimum wage security guard
> your qualifications
High School, Security Licence, Literate
> your pay
$16/hr, 13 hours a day, 5 days a week
> what you have to say about it
I'm an alcoholic and a failure

> optional:

> your country
Bay area
> your age
26

>>1564606
are you looking for another job on IT or nah?

> Server technician
> Useless BA but 10 years experience
> $17/h
> I live paycheck to paycheck
> US
> 34

>>1564278

This "Linux Essentials Exam": is it something official with certified schools? What is it, exactly? Is it a requirement for Linux Tech Support in the US?

Also, why did you chose this niche rather than anything else in IT?

Thank you in advance. I'm very interested.

>>1563857
>Sucks

With your current salary, what prevents you from retiring? Do you live in NY/SF?

>>1564157

What is your current job, and where do you live?
Did you go to school for your job or was it self-taught?

for all the people in this thread with tech jobs, do you suggest it?

I have 7 years experience in a trade and can continue with that, but I also have several years of non-commercial experience in IT, in all sorts of sub-fields.

not sure what to do at 25.

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>>1564868
Linux+ and LPIC is more recognized than Linux Essentials. None of them are a requirement, just like any other cert (except maybe CISSP for some top tier IT jobs), they simply serve as an aid. I'm sure the things you learn are informative and important though.

>>1564397
>>1564868

>Linux Essentials
The Linux Essentials is provided through LPI ( http://www.lpi.org/our-certifications/linux-essentials-overview/ ). It's basically the most entry-level certification you can get. This probably won't get you a job as nice as Linux+ or LPIC will, but it shows you have a good base knowledge of Linux and familiarity with the command line. For me it was really just a nice step in the right direction, since I came from a completely different field. I should also mention that I got my A+, another entry-level cert. You just read the material, sign up for the test, and show up to a testing center to take it. Once you pass you can throw it on your resume.

>why did you chose this niche
Like I said above, it seemed like an area that's relatively new and still evolving. Companies like Rackspace, Digital Ocean, Linode, AWS etc are still fighting to establish themselves and they change fast. Basically what I did was look around at what trends I saw catching on. I was learning some web development early on and everyone kept talking about cloud this cloud that. My iPhone is constantly bugging me about upgrading iCloud. My computer that runs Windows 10 always asks me to save files to OneDrive. You know, eventually I got the hint.

Guys, I need advice.

Currently in my first year of engineering but I absolutely do not enjoy it. I don't even know anymore what has driven me into it. I'm neither excited about university nor the job.
My plan is to switch into either economics to land a finance job (anything from investment banking, consulting, management... there's a lot of interesting stuff) or go into applied CS with a master of computer engineering afterwards (interesting to me because I enjoy programming and electronics).

I'm really unsure about what to pick. On the one hand I would like a fancy white collar job at McKinsey or Goldman Sachs or something (I know thats hard but you get the idea), on the other hand I would enjoy a comfy nice job involving programming or electronics.

Some questions:

The general consensus ITT seems to be that finance is better paying. Is this true? Also, is economics even a good degree to get a finance job? I've heard your degree doesn't matter THAT much as long as it's somehow finance/money related.

Is the tech industry really as dead as some people here say? I often read stuff like that the pay will be shit (compared to other STEM fields) and that many people will end up as modern construction workers. If it's really this shit, how does one get into the good tech jobs?

My current plan would be to go for economics, do as much as I can to land a good finance job at a bank or as a consultant or something. If it sucks and I want to switch into the tech industry and self teach myself like >>1564304 did. How hard is self teaching this stuff?
>tech is a dead end career, do you guys ever get paid more than 250k?
What? 250k is A LOT of money. Of course it's harder to earn 7 figures in tech than as a banker but come on, 250k is not a dead end career. Most people don't get there.

>>1564155
Would also be interested into your career path.

>>1563652
Could you let us know more? What did you study, whats your exact field/position?

>>1565081
>finance is better paying
Not necessarily true. If you end up becoming the CEO of Wells Fargo, then yeah, you will probably be making a lot of money. Then again, how rich is Bill Gates? The average job in finance is basically shit tier data entry. It's hard to prove that you did anything deserving of a bonus, employees are usually interchangeable, and you can easily get shoved into a cubicle and forgotten for the rest of your life. The chances of you actually becoming a partner at Goldman are slim to none unless your dad worked there or you're a Chinese trust fund baby with connections to the mainland. Most people who say finance pays the best have never actually worked in finance.

>Is the tech industry really as dead as some people here say?
Depends on the specialty. If you want to open up a computer repair shop downtown, might want to think again. IT is constantly changing, and you need to find an area that's growing.

>How hard is self teaching this stuff?
Depends on how advanced you get and how much you like it. If you're dedicated, anyone can do it. I found the hardest part was just having the drive and discipline to get up early every day and study. After that, it's just like learning any other field.

As someone who has worked in finance, and who knows many people in finance, I can say with confidence that most of the people posting about their salaries are flat out lying. The average guy coming out of school is NOT going to make 6 figures. In fact, you probably won't hit that for several years. I mean seriously, spend 10 seconds researching the data.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/financial-analyst-salary-SRCH_KO0,17.htm

>Financial Analyst Salaries
>18,052 Salaries
>New York City, NY Area Avg - $68,446

You people need to stop watching Wolf of Wall St every time it plays on TV...

>>1562917

> your job
Software Engineer, web applications, mostly back end

> your qualifications
bachelor's degree in CS, 2 years experience in industry

> your pay
$105k/year

> what you have to say about it
It has interesting projects and boring projects. Very laid back. I can come and go to/from work whenever as long as I'm at meetings.

>your country
US

>your age
26

>>1564820
The pay doesn't seem bad. Expensive lifestyle?

>>1564999
I will check those Linux+ and LPIC too, you got me interested

>>1565200
God, US pays well for their tech employees.

>>1565235
>I will check those Linux+ and LPIC too, you got me interested

Take a few days and do your research. There is SOOOO much out there, so many different paths to take. If you like Linux, that's a good place to start. I would really suggest Linux Academy, you can get your first month's subscription for like $10.

>>1565244
Thanks m8, I will definetly check it out. This got me hyped for real!

>>1565235

It's only 35k a year and it was an expensive useless degree. I can do it all except for the funkier network configurations but the experience alone isn't getting me anywhere.

I've gone back to school but even paying for cc out of pocket costs about the same and at part-time only I'll likely never finish before my deferment runs out.

>>1565252
you took a BA on networking?

>>1565281

Nah it's totally unrelated to IT.

>>1565247
Go for it man. If I can do this (and I am) Anyone can. All you need is some drive and a plan.

I have okay programming skills but the main problem is I live in a city that only has 30,000 people. Only 1-2 programming jobs are posted every 4 months and they're your typical joke you see here where they want 10 years of experience in a 5 year old language and only pay $10 an hour.

I get phone interviews with big cities and it goes great but it always comes down to that I'm not a local candidate. This time I managed to get an in person interview which posted it as being a 80,000 salary for a web app job and I actually meet the required qualifications. It's a 4 hour drive but I've already committed to the drive. What I plan to do is this:

>Have portfolio site made already
>Write out example of MVC in a framework and have it printed out in person and working on portfolio and it's relevant to what they do
>their website sucks and I am going to make a huge point of also being able to do that and help with SEO
>make it a point that I can help build their brand because they have no business tagline and the company's name is just their last name with no mention of what they do
>write out a plan that upon 90 days of hiring what I plan to do even outside their web app they want
>not be an autist throughout the thing
>try that trick mentioned here of asking at the end if they are interested in me right now

tear that apart /biz/, how do I try to get the job but not look insane?

apprentice electrician
5 years on job training/working 6 months of school
32$ an hour
still feel underpaid for amount of work i do, but i get paid more than some licensed electricians get and i'm only an apprentice
canada
23

>>1565319
I am already getting some drive into this. And looking in the market cloud and linux server is really a big thing and i'm really hyped to start studying

>>1565318
Are you studying IT related now?

>>1565370
>Have portfolio site made already
Is this seen as a good thing tho?

Well, being your own employee is also really good, I am actually pondering to start it for small business and people. For starters, what prices should I put out there?

>>1565375
My dad is also an electrician, people love their job, he teaches newcommers but is pay is not that good.He is been on it almost all his life, for more than 30 years. But it pays the bills and can make some saves.

Any data/business etc analysts or anyone who works with ERP here? Got any advice?

>>1565370
Do all of that, but make sure you're not an asshole about it. Respect the fact they they've built a business and ran it without your help. You know what I mean? Don't come in there like "Yo you guys are dumb as hell, your website sucks, I can do it better!"

You're on the right track though. A big part of the job search is location. I'm lucky to live in a NJ suburb so I've worked in Manhattan or Hoboken most of my career. Philly is under 2 hours away so relocating there is quote easy.

>>1565411
could you be more vague?

>>1565378
From what I can tell, Linux is going to be the platform of choice among cloud companies.

>>1565378
Literally every time I google web jobs, web dev, web apps etc, it always comes back that you need a portfolio. Sometimes I get the deer headlights look as the "IT guy" who's interviewing me doesn't know what raid is, and once didn't even know what an ip address is. Always immediately get a "no" after an interview like this because they are just saving their own ass. I don't mean to sound like I think I'm smarter than everyone else but there's got to be actual positions in St. Louis. I'm surprised there's no IT/tech horror stories posted yet because I have some real, real shit sandwiches to share to motivate my ass to just move already.

> your job
Lead Network Engineer
> your qualifications
Degree and too many certs to count
> your pay
$135k + bonuses
> what you have to say about it
Some interesting work but the hours + stress are insane. I'm probably going to move to a sales or consulting position soon.

> your job
Full time student, part time floor installer, licensed real estate agent as well
> your qualifications
Been installing/removing floors since I was in high school, only recently got my real estate license
> your pay
Flooring: $17-20 cash
Real Estate: 2-6K a month depending on how much work I put in
> what you have to say about it
Flooring isn't the best job but I love the people I work with. Real estate is okay, I'm not to big on jobs involving sales though. The work I do is enough to pay for school, rent, and recreation so that's pretty cool.

optional:
>your country
USA
>your age
21

>security guard
>HS diploma
>14/hr, 30 hrs/week
To be honest, I like it. The pay is shitty, but I can live off it while saving some, and the program I'm working with respect me and what I do despite it being a braindead easy job.
Unfortunately The program is going under due to a lack of funding by early next year. I've found some nice job listings for government work that pay twice as well, but I'm also considering getting some IT certs, and dipping into day trading on the side.

>Portland OR, USA
>29

>>1565428
From what I searched that checks

>>1565430
I know the guys at /g/ would love to hear those horror stories. Make a thread there and link it. I'd love to hear them.

>>1565454
How many years of experience do you have, man?

>>1565480
What are you studying tho? And it seems fun for what you talk about

>>1565487
My cousin started has a regular security guard on 12 hours shifts. Now he is working in a national bank, Idk the pay, but he even got a new car. Curiosly he is also into code.

>>1565491
Way ahead of you

https://rbt.asia/g/thread/S56466635#p56467978

>>1565503
4d chess

>>1563705
bullshit, where are you living?
I'm paying 38.2%

>>1565491
>How many years of experience do you have, man?
7

>>1562917

> your job
Software Engineer

> your qualifications
None besides work experience. I dropped out of college

> your pay
$130,000 USD

> what you have to say about it
Comfy, but at the end of the day still a wageslave. Working nights and weekends on changing that.

>your country
USA

>your age
25

>>1565571
The pay is good tho.
In what ae you working on your free time?

>>1562917
>Job
Taking one class atm to finish my associates degree, wait tables full time to try and save up cash to move out (I live in a very expensive area)

>Qualifications
HS, A.S. In Business Admin by December. Skilled in various computer programs, gonna try to get into desktop support for the 9-5 life and waiting tables on the side

>Pay
Usually around $14 an hour, mid 30ish hrs a week. I started a month ago

>What do I have to say
I wanna save up for a car, save up 15k, and drive around america. I feel so lost in the world right now, and i've never really seen my country.

>Country
USA

>Age
20

>>1562994
I love history, considering becoming a tour guide in my city just to show others the place I love.

>>1563043
Met a Portugeuse guy in Berlin who was making 20ish euros an hour iirc. His job was a pain in the ass doing political work, but he said he was one of the lucky ones.

>>1565603

small-scale ($5-10k MRR) SaaS company. I'd be content with replacing my salary and being able to work on my own time.

ITT: nearly everyone has earnings high enough to put them in the top 1%, if not higher, in their field while being in their 20s.

lmao

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>>1565609
You seem like a true adventurer, I bet you are really interesting to talk to.
You have to visit Portugal one day if you can, specially Sintra, it is beautiful, I am glad to live so close to it.
He was working in Berlin or in Portugal?

>>1565618
Working in our own time is always better, good luck!

>>1565619
it seems that tech jobs pay good when you have some years of experience. if you don't make a million until your 30's are you even trying?

>>1563717
how did you get into disaster relief? I'm thinking about trying to work in something related to that. I just want a fuckload of hours so I can travel again.

>>1563756
you could probably get a room in Tottenham. It has a bad reputation since the riots, but everyone I met in that neighborhood was super friendly.

>>1565619
i'm broke but it was worth the experiences I had

>>1565629
the guy was working for an organization that made him have meetings all over the EU.

I don't think i'm that interesting, I try to keep all my travel related experiences to myself/people close to me because I feel that I come off as a rich pretentious jerk, despite paying for everything travel related by waiting tables a lot since I was 17.

I've heard great things about portugal as a place to visit, but the economic situation is rough

>>1565639
He really is lucky.
Well, I like to hear about traveling, I want to travel to some places too and the land of the free is sure one of them.
When you can, we will receive you with great pleasure!

>>1565642
/trv/
www.flixbus.com
www.hostelworld.com

somehow find money and time

Goodluck!

>>1565647
Thank you men! I knew you were a cool dude ahah

>job
software enginner
>qualifications
comp sci BS
>pay
75k USD, in NYC
>age
22

>>1565200
>>1565571
Fuck I'm definitely getting underpaid. I was desperate for a job at the end of my senior year and took the first offer I got.
What were your guys' starting salaries?

>>1565803

First "job" was not even properly negotiated (no contract signed, etc) and it was with a very poorly run startup. I had to haggle for months just to get paid $3k which was peanuts considering I worked there for 7 or 8 months.

Next real job after that was $125k which I got almost a year after quitting the first one. Spent the time in between studying and teaching myself.

>>1565815
what the fuck? Did you get equity at least? Why the hell did you stay for that long?
What city are you in? How did you land a salary that high with less than a year of experience?

>>1565839

I was a college drop out, so young and stupid and introverted. Never had the balls to negotiate anything or even ask for money until it hit critical mass. tl;dr I was a naive retard.

I live in SF, so salaries here scale exceptionally well with cost of living. I negotiated the salary by being confident and applying to a /lot/ of different places to increase my chances of success (like, 50+ companies overall).

>>1565859
Ah ok that makes sense.
Thanks for the info, really appreciate it.

>>1565631
>how did you get into disaster relief?
A disaster happened, some girl nigged out and burned a fucking distribution center down that she worked at. She also posted pics on Instagram and got sentenced to something like 500 years jail.
My company hired anyone who showed up, and they just let people come in to work when they felt like it. They also fire people when they feel like they have to many employees. It's a shit show.

Do any of you ever have any hope of working remotely? proving yourself after a year would be rad because then you could live out in the country with city pay and have so much left over to invest or do whatever due to comparatively joke living costs.

>>1565947
I think working from home is easier if you do some kind of webdev.

>>1564568
35ish. 44 during holiday/summer

>>1565947
Yeah, that's the dream man. For now though, since I'm new, I want to be in the office around other people so I can learn as much as possible. Eventually I would love to work remote. I've always been a fast worker and hate being in an office where I finish my work in 2 hours and then have to pretend to be busy the other 6. I think most stuff in IT can be done from home, especially programming or software related.

>>1566417
The pay is not bad at all, pizza guys for me are heroes!

>Job
Telecommunications/SCADA tech

>qualifications
A 2 year community college diploma

>pay
My regular rate is $43/hr but i get northern benefits and gaurunteed overtime. Last year o grossed 150k CAD

>thoughts
It's usually pretty slow and easy, but im expected to know about a lot of legacy equipment going as far back as the 1950s and be able to fix things in a timely manner.

>>1566633
Do you have a course in telecommunications?

>>1566633
How does one get into SCADA and PLCs?

Is Electrical Engineering a meme. I don't want to become a wageslave. I got told that the job market is nice and pays well, but everyone on biz keeps saying that Engineering studies are a meme.

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>>1566829
for /biz/ if you don't are rich you are a meme

>>1566639
The program i took at CC was moslty focused on telecomm/communications

>>1566742
I got a job at a utility company and expressed interest in it

>>1567467
How many years of experience?

>>1567478
For which? Work or education?

>>1567490
I was asking work, but you can say both

>>1567492
About a year

>>1567500
Seems a fair pay

>>1567544
Yeah, I'm satisfied! Work is fun too.

>>1568074
Sweden seem really nice to work in anything IT related. You guys are good at it

Consultant at industrial equipment distributor

Almost EE, few exams left but 10y work experience more than half of it EE work

31k/y after tax inc. perks

Bretty good considering I upgraded form a 16k system integrator job AND:
Ex yugoslavia

age 31

>>1568259
Almost forgot, additional, ee drafting and integrator on the side about 10k/y

> your job
Broadcaster

> your qualifications
Highschool. Caribbean Examination Diploma.

> your pay
$400 US monthly

> what you have to say about it
The economic progression of our country has been at a stall for many years and it sucks as there are no better opportunities to make a living., My current pay is what is regarded as above average...which sucks more

optional:

>your country
Guyana

>your age
18

>>1562917


> your job
Developer (back and front end)
> your qualifications
Graduated 2 years ago since then I work for the big blue
> your pay
About 1.5k burger coins a month it's comfy for my country
> what you have to say about it
Since nobody knows his shit I have to do everything for two apps
People have no respect for IT they think any idiot can do it and you'll end up working with idiots no matter what
it is kinda comfy lots of vacations and can work from home if I need to

optional:

>your country
Mexico (dont worry I steal your jobs fron the other side of the fence)
>your age
26
I was worried when starting because it was a big company so I had high expectations of the people there, they dont know shit like everywhere else. There are some old folks that really know their stuff but most of them (including gringos and other nationalities) are kind of normie tier stupid
Normies shouldnt be allowed in IT jobs
That said take some certifications and courses you should be ahead of most people, dont worry about the tecnologies, pick some of the most meme ones java ee is looked for a lot
Learn to set up a web, If you need something else you can learn on the fly
And dont worry about guys like me you can still be a developer, aim to be an architect you'll have to work with beaners, loos and chinks, its the norm now so learn your way with them and you'll shit cash

>>1568297
>18
>over average

Chin up man, thats a pretty great point in life to be "above average", it may look like shit over here, but you're able to at least live rather comfy right?

>>1568259
>>1568262
You sure do a lot of money, my men

>>1568297
You don't want to keep studying?

>>1568302
Seems fair enough for someone with graduation. Keep going bro!

> your job
EE
> your qualifications
MS
> your pay
90k
> what you have to say about it
Small annoyances but it's not bad
>your country
US
>your age
31

>>1566829
I think the field is shrinking, but good people will always be in demand.

> your job
Director
> your qualifications
ITIL Expert, PMI
> your pay
~$100k + 15% yearly bonus
> what you have to say about it
It's fun if you like managing managers. Usually pretty great...you get to be an influencer in the direction of the business and, if you hire good motivated managers, you don't have a lot of pain from micromanaging work packages.

Con: long hours. I work every single day in some way or another.

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>your country
USA

>>1562917
> your job
Java developer

> your qualifications
High school, dropped out of uni after 2 years, planning on going back next September

>your pay
600 usd/month
It looks ridiculous now that I write it down. But then again, I'm a dropout and it's still more than I need.

>What you have to say about it
Basically I'm a prentice. I do the typing that the engineers dont have time to do, but still has to be done.

>your country
Hungary

>your age
21

>>1569001
>>1569003
How many years of experience?

>>1569035
Always time to get to Uni, I will try to get back in on September too

>>1569097
Director, here. Probably about 14 years in the tech sector. I started as a support goon for an ISP so, if you're motivated, you can make your way up the ladder.

The skill I see the least in new people to the field is a lack of organization and understanding of purpose. I've met some really bright people that I've passed on just because they were just going through the motions or had to be the smartest person in the room. I'd take a hungry employee over a talented one almost every time.

>>1569282
Totally agree here. Though my experience is limited, I feel like many people I've met in IT are pretty obnoxious to work with. They think they're some closet genius or they don't have the social skills. And some guys just want to do what they enjoy, which is fine, but they won't ever make it above something like managing a help desk.

>>1569282
That's actually nice tips of how not to act around your job. Always be honest and chill

>>1562965
Why are there do many Albertans on this site?

>>1569287
Leadership roles aren't for everyone. It's basically a high level baby sitter that everyone hates and takes the blame for everyone else's fuck ups. I like it because the guys I get through to, grow in their career and grow in their knowledge. It's very rewarding to have a direct that gets it. It's rare too.

I don't have a problem with people that want to do the same thing for the next 20 years...the industry does. Technology changes rapidly, if you want to get by for the next 20 years standing up bare metal servers, good luck because cloud IaaS and automation are here and are making your skill set obsolete. You either stay hungry and learn or you get passed by and find yourself 45 and unemployed.

>>1569300
If you live in Alberta, you are probably a failure at life.

Burger King
none
Minimum Wage
Not for long
U.S.
18

>>1569306

Lolwhy

>>1569347
what are you going to do?

>>1562917
Mc Donalds
none
Minimum Wage $14.5/h
Not for long
U.S.
20

>>1569763
are you going to study?