College Majors

I vote accounting, because that's what I'm doing.

Economics is super simple. My future ex-wife has a masters degree in economics. Unfortunately she's only found work tutoring economics. She's getting her PHD next, because it's supposedly required to get work being an "economist." I'm not going to say I disagree with her, but I don't see it as being the most lucrative business degree. The highest math utilized in PHD economics is apparently calc III? 8 years of school in a supposed math/logic oriented science without going beyond multi-variable calculus seems insane to me.

I'm not really sure what they teach in finance, but I'd imagine a portion of it (the larger part) would be built through research and experience, rather then education.

Accounting, because of all of it's anal discipline (not hard, just rules and framework), seems like the best option to enter the corporate end of business. At least if you don't make mistakes, earn your CPA/CMA, and act diligent, you should be working towards something prosperous. There's also a decent demand for accountants considered how imperative it is in modern business to have some sort of accountant, even if outsourced to a firm.

I won't chime in too hard on "business" degrees. I've seen alot of em, and I don't have much hope for those gentlemen.

>>1509315
>Future ex wife
Unless you have a prenup you better prepare your anus.

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>>1509295
Philosophy major reporting in, ask me anything.

Data science/machine learning/statistics/comp sci will give you more applicable skills than Econ or business or whatever. The majors I listed can be applied just about everywhere

>>1509317
I'll keep that in mind

>>1509319
Kneepadding much?

>>1509319
I would like fries with my order.

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>>1509295
1. Computer Science
2. Business/Entrepreneurship
and then u can just learn finance on your own

>>1509600
looks like an action potential

why is comp eng unbelievable tier

>>1509319
Are you studying or have you graduated? If it's the former, where do you plan on going after graduation? If it's the latter, what do you do for a living?

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What about trades?

>>1509295
I'm not even in the Business world, but from my research, definitely Accounting.

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Started off as a marketing major then switched to accounting because I realized that I would have more options in that field. I started off liking accounting, but now I fucking hate it. I kinda just want to switch to business admin, but I'm scared I won't be able to find any good jobs after I'm done with school.


JUST

>>1509319
Have you pursued or do you plan on pursuing an understanding in calculus and statistics? If not, why not?

>>1510157
I'm of the mindset, that if you don't like accounting, you probably won't love business, at least not the way it's typically played out. If you hate it that much, maybe you should've gone away from business.
How long have you been in school?

>>1510166
4 years. I should have graduated by now, but I did part schooling for a long time.

I'm still a junior and I'm only 22, but damn I feel old as shit.

>>1509319
>tfw writing major

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>what are the best majors for someone who wants to become a banker
Almost anything as long as you've got a degree (preferably from an impressive school with an impressive GPA) and a basic understanding of financial theories, economics, and accounting.

>businessman
Too vague to answer.

>economist
Maths with some econ or econ with lots of maths.

Arguably, best business school majors are accounting, finance, econ, operations management, strategy, and (business) analytics if you're looking for lucrative expert field jobs (such as consulting at a revered house).

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>>1510171
amen. i just started my first semester this year after going to vocational school. turns out that waiting ended up making things shitty for me since i didnt end up getting an advantage by going to vocational school.

am i retarded?

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Why cant I retire with $200,000? Every time I bring it up people call me insane

>buy a one story house in rural midwestern America for $30,000-50,000
>decent used truck for $20,000
>have about $100,000 to spend on food, taxes, repairs, etc for the rest of your life

If I live frugally and assuming I don't kill myself from boredom in the small town, what am I missing? Seems really possible, and I am a frugal guy as it is.

>>1510495
>100,000 to spend for the rest of your life.

A general rule of thumb when drawing down savings with no other income is to keep your spending rate between 3% and 4%.

This would give you a yearly spending capacity of $3k to $4k per year.

Will $250 - $350 a month cover all of your expenses?

>>1509295
Some mix of business, economics AND! computer science.

Each one alone might make you employable, but I have noticed that for example, pure computer science goys tend to trust their numbers too much and know too little about economics to identify potential systematic errors. Also, they are not so good at the soft skills game.

The opposite might be true about business majors. They may have a good general grasp of business but they could hold beliefs that wouldn't be confirmed by quantitative analysis but they lack the skills to execute said analysis.

>>1509295
STEM+Mainstream Business major

Best of both worlds.

Want to work in finance, now you can also be a quant.
Want to be an economist, you already learnt all of the math.
Want to do accounting, well idk, doesn't really help you out there.

>>1510581
>>1510552
>>1509600
>>1509323
So an economics + computer science/math double degree would be ideal?

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>>1510591
Yeah.

>>1510591
Yes.

Math, CS are good with anything and the ECE engineerings are good for those wanting to work in trading because all that shit is just transfer of information adn electricity so they like to hire them because they understand all that shit

>>1510591
Pretty much. It's a very number - heavy route to take though, so if you want to actually start, run or expand a business it'll be useful to learn that kind of stuff elsewhere or just take business instead of economics. But otherwise that combo is golden and can be used in a ton of areas

>>1510147

Depends. If you live in Australia, you can make phenomenal bank through working a trade, simply because they're in massive demand. Not sure about North America, Europe or Britain, but judging from the disrespect they get on /biz/, I'd guess that they're ranked pretty low.

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>>1509315
>Economics is super simple
says the accounting guy kek

>>1509315
I have a masters in econ too and got offered two university teaching positions (both 60k+) and a few other random jobs including banking and whatnot. I settled on being a quant (if you even want to call it that for what I do) for a finance firm because mo money.

>She's getting her PHD next, because it's supposedly required to get work being an "economist."
Yeah, this is true. Though, a lot of PhDs end up back in academia only teaching undergrad classes so their advanced chops get dull over time essentially to the level of masters degree. I had one PhD professor in econ who didn't even know you can get a refund on a tariff you paid if you're an importer.

The highest math utilized in PHD economics is apparently calc III?
Sounds about right. Def more stats based than math based I'd say.

>8 years of school in a supposed math/logic oriented science without going beyond multi-variable calculus seems insane to me.
Hit the nail on the head. Econ is a social science (and a psuedoscience at that). There isn't even any point in having a religion because your economic outlook is now your religion. It's that dogmatic and entrenched in the "science" aspect of it too.

>I won't chime in too hard on "business" degrees. I've seen alot of em, and I don't have much hope for those gentlemen.
Business aka I'm too stupid to do finance aka I'm too stupid to do econ aka I'm too stupid to do STEM aka I didn't just go balls deep and study advanced mathematics so I settled on "business management" (whatever that even means). You're right lad, no hope for these fellas.

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Just started at MSU, going into supply chain. Rate me, fellas. Will I make it out ok?

>>1509295
> Banker
3.8 in something vaguely mathy
> Businessman
no degree, or any degree, or literally some kind of negative degree
> Economist
Economics, and than a PhD in Economics.

>>1510832
For someone with a masters in econ you sure are critical of the science...

>>1512254
It's a pseudoscience and is the very fucking definition of the pretense of knowledge. Sorry m8.

Want to know the sad truth? I have an MBA too with a concentration in economics kek.

>>1509295
I'm Majoring in Combined Business Administration and Political Science with a minor in Economics. Am I doomed to unemployment?

>>1512520
poli sci isnt what u think it is.

It's not just arguing why marxism is bad/good or whatever you argue about with your friends.

>>1512524
So.....does that mean I'll have money for food when I leave college?

>>1512533
no, not at all.

If you want to do a business major, do one that actually pays money.

Accounting or Finance, as you read earlier in the thread to be an "economist" you need a PhD, you can get work with an economics degree but its the same work as a finance can do basically.

>>1512514
>>1512514
If you could rewind everything back to when you were deciding your major but with your current knowledge, what would you choose? I'm guessing not economics kek

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>>1512536
I want to a business major and political science as well. Partly because i'm looking to open a school up in a third world country (american degrees are looked upon highly there) where I can profit off of that country's rich families by offering US-quality education, and also because I need to build capital and would like a comfy lobbying job or something similar. I don't necessarily want to work in economics, but I feel that a minor would help round out my resume. Is this a decent plan, or have I deluded myself into thinking I'll do any of these things? I seriously need advice. This is the last year I can switch my major. On a side note, I don't want to work in accounting or finance unless the job is like financial analyst or something. Accounting and finance seem like glorified wagecucking with extra soul-suckiness.

>>1512635
What capital?
What experience teaching?
Do you have a PhD? No. Who is going to pay for the profs and lecturers you import?
Even if somehow you had the money, what's going to convince U.S lecturers to come over to Somalia.
If you mean High school level, where are you going to get high school teaches and how are you going to pay them?

I think a business major isn't for you.

>>1510832
Hey man, I never said accounting was hard. I'm only arguing that it's a better entrance into business than most degrees under the business realm. Economics surely has more math involved, and I wouldn't doubt that the 300 level courses are more difficult than these 200 level ones are. I like economics and respect it for a science. I just don't think the world demands as many economists as it does accountants. That seems like an extremely competitive field of work, with little to no fall back options except for teaching.

I'd love to invest my time in learning higher math. It's applying it that becomes most difficult. Not too many jobs that lurk outside of engineering and require math above calculus. Statistics feels like it has similar issues to the ones I outlined in economics. The market is competitive and small, requiring far more than a degree with some work-experience to play.

I think I'll invest my time in math later, but for now I need to hammer out the required accounting footwork so that I can pad my resume with relevant work-experience.

George Soros studied philosophy.

So, hear me out /biz/, I'm about to walk away from 4ish years of college with a BA in Psychology with a minor in Japanese BUT I'll also have a certificate in Computer Information Systems. I know a decent amount of 3 Programming languages and I can hold a conversation. Am I fucked?

>>1512635
Don't try to make bank by building/running a university. It's a massive investment and will take a while to come back to you. Do something more realistic that will get you the capital necessary to build a high-quality college and keep it on the side until it becomes profitable.

>>1509319
Go to law or business school.

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>>1509295
>COLLEGE MAJORS

>tfw German studies
>5th year
>acct minor
Should I just end it? Or take an extra year to get the b.acc.

How difficult are computer science programs in Germany?

>>1509295
Making $300k /year through marketing.

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>>1513596
It's not that impressive when you put it in USDs

>>1513615
BTFO

Why is everyone saying engineering is god tier? Its stable, but only stable and they work you like dogs.

Good luck breaking 6 figures or any real advancement with just a bs. You have a chance with a ms, but you still prob won't make it past mid manager unless you are talented.

Gotta take a buinsess minor or double major to get ahead.

>>1513615
lol thank you for that top kek

I'm feeling very bad about my degree
Doing Business Major with Economics but I'm not sure how employable I will be afterwards. The course also seems kinda easy and I feel like I can do better.

>military
>shit tier

It's a bad job for a lot of reasons but money isn't one. Your piddly $20k income is 100% disposable. You have free food, free housing, transportation depends on the post, but it's usually possible to bum rides.

>>1510581
I don't know how all Americans seem to do majors at once. Studying for one major takes me 45 hours a week. Add to that working a part time job, cooking, working out etc, there is no time to do another 45 hours.

>>1513671
>Gotta take a buinsess minor or double major to get ahead.
well that's the general idea, STEM + MBA is indeed a very good combo
or alternatively if you're really capable, just start your own business after your STEM schooling

Is it true that the UK you can go into banking, especially IB, with pretty much any degree? I read about people who studied history, art or english and are now working for banks like Goldman Sachs.

However, I'm currently in my first year of aerospace engineering (god tier kek) but somehow got more interested into business. Is a degree in economics worth it? In my country it's not as easy as in the UK to step into banking and people will except some kind of economic related degree (mostly economics or business administration).

>>1510495
>20k for a used truck
is this some "america only" deal or sth, people get 1-2 year old mercedes or a brand new mini for that money.
Most people buy cars for 2k-3k MAX

>>1513939
I can even get a used truck for under 1000€ here. It's nothing great but drives and has a lot of storage room.

>>1509616
Because theyre glorified EE majors

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>>1513533
>German studies

Lmfao why do ppl do this

>>1513898
yes, its true. how good your grades are are important, where you went to school is important, what you studies is less important since every bank has a training program to teach you the shit you need anyway.

>>1509295
Mech. eng reporting in

I still will never be rich or happy because autism

please kill me

>>1510845
I have heard this field has a lot of demand so probably but I don't see a lot of room for mad money just a very boring decent salary for your whole life. Its the real workhorse of business though, you clock in and really get shit done, no office banter or crap.

As you can tell nobody knows what you do since nobody replied, get used to answering questions about "WTF is logistics? You sell chains?"

>>1513792
Your school is probably more intense. I never knew anyone who studied 45 hours weekly, probably 6 hours weekly per class x 4 would be 24 hours.

>>1513898
They do but they are just looking for any genius or major league academic badass because they are greedy like that. I think for a normie just getting a finance+econ mix works.

If you are pulling a 4.0 fuck yeah, do history.

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who petrol engy here?

s-sure is god tier up here haha..

>>1513898
Dunno where you live, but in Brazil they hire Engineer graduates rather than economics

Where is games design?

>>1513898
Yes, as long as you get amazing GPA and going to a top tier school helps as well.

>>1514074
Why would you prefer engineers for banking?

Anyone premed and interested minoring in business? Took economics, p easy. Took accounting, surprisingly difficult. I assumed it was just like any other simple math course but I was wrong :/

In germany I can pretty much decide between:
>business administration (BWL)
>economics (VWL)
What's better for a carreer? We have more specific stuff like accounting, finance etc too but none of those are offered in normal state universities but only in private business schools which most people don't like.

>>1510495
>>have about $100,000 to spend on food, taxes, repairs, etc for the rest of your life
this is a joke right?

>>1516293
Hab zwar nicht arg viel Ahnung davon, würde aber davon ausgehen, dass man mit einem VWL Abschluss mehr Geld machen kann. Zum einen gibts extrem viele BWLer (also eine große Konkurrenz) und es ist eigentlich grundsätzlich so, dass man bei mathelastigen Fächern mehr Geld macht. Also VWL > BWL

Can anyone answer this: >>1513542


(I can see the Germans are here)

>>1514127
It's so low nobody can see it.

>>1515786
On average they do more study hours than any other bachelors, and because bankers are trained by their bank it doesn't really matter what degree you did so they pick the most hardworking kids.

Also, quantitative ability and ability to wrap your head around concepts that are a bit harder than your typical business graduate would would also be useful.

I would imagine specifically with analyst and risk positions it would be useful because of their math and maybe programming skills if they are SoftE/CS sand maybe even CE

>>1510812
While they may not get as much respect, it's still pretty lucrative, hell driving trucks makes 50k+ a year.

I got a meme general business degree for my 4-year, worked a few years and am now back in school for a masters in accounting. Is there a decent range of opportunity ahead of me outside of 80hr/week public accounting?

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>>1509295
>tfw studying Computer Engineering
Can anyone please tell me why my career is so fucking praised everywhere I look? We don't even study that much math.

>>1509295
>god-tier
>tfw still haven't found a job in my field of study after 2 years of graduating

Fucking kill me already

>>1509295
Am physics major w/ business minor.
Am I fucked?

How good would a major in International Business be?

>>1516904
Depends on what you make it. Of course you will not be getting 100k+ a year entry jobs but it's healthy.

And for some reason lots of people in accounting suck IB majors constantly, which I don't really get considering the weight their major has compared to a near meme major

t. international business major

>>1516904
Just go learn a second language and get a useful degree

>>1516805
yes

>>1516918
I'm this guy>>1516752

IB is a meme degree that will get you nowhere, take my word for it.

>>1509315
Sounds like your wife has an MA. I work in a data analytics role and know several people in other departments with Econ degrees. I only have a bachelor's.

If you focus on the quantitative aspect of economics it actually can get pretty difficult. Of course if she's just been taking bullshit fluff courses that you take for a BA/MA then of course she's going to have a hard time finding work.

>>1516957
ive considering getting a master in finance or accounting though, it's too fucking late to change my major as I've already done it and my parents told me they wouldn't pay for it

at least my school has some convenience with PwC though

>>1517250
employers don't actually really care what classes you took right? don't they just look at the degree name?

>>1509295
>law in meh tier
>120k + bonus starting as a first year in any bigly firm

top kek
keep believing you're gonna be the next Zuckerberg with your CS / CE degree

>>1513615
top kek

>>1517717
>120k + bonus starting as a first year in any bigly firm
The thing is that it's REALLY hard to get into a good firm. Most people will drop out or will end up earning average starting salarys

>>1517735
In 2016 it's the same in all fields

You HAVE to graduate with 3.7+, good references /CV in any competitive field to get the top jobs at V5 firms, whatever your field is.

>>1509295
Mathematics on its own is good tier at best.

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>>1509295
>Computer Engineer
>Unbelievable tier
y tho

>>1509295
>>1509600
>>1510591

I am planning on going into Web Development as a Computer Science and Technology major, is it worth it?

>>1517717
Law is still pretty meh because its a total lotto. IF you get top 10% LSAT, IF you place in top 10% of class, IF you get into T15, IF you catch the eye of a senator who went to your school, IF you clerk. A lot of this is also skill but I am just saying the salaries are entirely elitist.

To be fair to you though I have heard top level salaries at Big Law are up 20000 bucks.

So for that reason I think it might be worth a shot I am legit feeling like spending the next 3 months doing mad prep and seeing if I can crush the LSAT and go from there because I am bored.

The entire IDEA of Law is pretty interesting to me, I would actually seriously enjoy waking up at 6AM going to work at 7:30, busting my ass until 6:30. Maybe its because I have been underworked for so long but it sounds challenging to have new clients and missions, scouring the worlds information to win the case and then the thrill it must be to win a big case.

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>>1518495
Yep

>>1512874
Huge mistake imho, dude, just graduate, look into HCI/Human Factors, you can work on computers.

If you have a generic BA then you'll at least qualify for more jobs.

However if this means you will hate your life because you hate talking to people DO NOT do this.

Just make sure to build a portfolio. You could also get a CIS degree and you'll have half done already and with your knowledge of programming you could look into getting your tech credits "work studied" where you take a test to show competency and could maybe get your degree down to 18 months.

Also CIS masters is a pretty dope degree.

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Best prospect major for someone knowledgeable/skilled in everything, but retarded at anything math related?

>>1509295
Degree of computer engineer here, from my experience in EU this is shit tier as hell, starting salary is less than 1000$ and prospects are not looking great for the volume of people getting into computers right now.

>tfw just want to teach literature

What can I do besides putting a bullet in my head?

Why is business management so low? Too general of a degree?

>>1516767
bcuz compooterz r hard

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>>1520486
>Why is business management so low?
because it was made by poorfags in MS Paint who didn't study business

>>1520787
Business administration should be much higher.
Also depends a lot if you are a westerner or just some Chinese or Indian guy wanting to land a first world job.

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>>1509295
I wish this electrical engineering meme would die out. "Unbelievable tier" my ass. I'm studying EE and am slowly starting to look at jobs, it's literally hell. STEM is over-saturated, I should''ve studied finance or accounting but it's too late now to switch. And not only are there more job opportunities in this field, but also there is more upward mobility. EE caps out at $90k while in finance and accounting you should be able to make much more than after 5 or 6 years.

>>1520787
Think it's because everyone and their dog took it as a major.

>>1509295

Is mathematics/physics and architecture a good double major? Can I make a good living out of this?

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>>1509295

>Going to finish up Bachelors
>Have AA atm
>Gotta choose what I want to study in
>No fucking idea what I want to do
>Just wanna make mull'a where I work a normal 9 to 5, at a desk, and can retire one day, have a house, and travel
>No fucking clue what to study, but really willing to do anything to get me to a "good" paying job with a good job outlook

But I'm a stupid fuckin' idiot, no idea what to do.

Major matters but ability, knowing the right people, university reputation and luck all play large roles in getting your dream job

>>1520924

Should I worry about my connections in undergrad? Or wait till postgrad?

>>1520926
you need to start in undergrad as soon as possible. go to career fairs. build reputations with recruiters, email them frequently and ask smart questions and also continue to express your interest in their company. remember that the squeaky wheel always gets oiled

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>>1512549
Well, I've always been interested in business/finance/econ anyways so I kind of always knew I was going into the field anyways. I guess it just depends on how you want to approach getting there.

Honestly, I'd probably have gone back and done finance instead (which really is just applied financial microeconomics). At least for my undergrad anyways.

I feel as if my applied econ masters was actually pretty useful. Lots of statistics, working with software, lots of analysis of data and the like (not necessarily applied to markets all the time, however). This is how I got started in life pretty much because I jumped right from the undergrad to the masters.

The MBA was probably the best because it gave me a well rounded introduction into other fields that I really never bothered studying in college (examples being """management""" and supply chain management, etc).

But to answer your question if I had to do undergrad over I'd probably do finance instead of econ. I'd keep the MBA (as it is kind of overvalued in the market I feel for what I learned) and I would definitely keep the applied econ masters due to all the analysis and data work I learned how to do and interpret.

>>1512650
You're definitely right. Accountants, especially CPAs, have amazing career potential. And you're right, economics as a "science" is overrated and working for places like the Fed or Department of Labor is extremely competitive (I had an interview at the Department of Labor out in Boston. Didn't get it but it would have been awesome to work right across the river from MIT and Harvard).

I agree, with your thinking. Beyond really like "intro" level math and statistics out in the field I really haven't used much in terms of career. For my own personal interests its benefited me more though.

Hows accounting for someone who just cares about stability and being able to stay comfortably middle class through life?

>>1520931
Suck their dick to so one day they may offer you a 14/hr job.

>>1513671
>>1519126
>>1520817
Is EE/CE a meme?

I was told that as engineer you can pick up business skill as you go along, the opposite not being true for business grads.

>>1520817
>finance or accounting
Enjoy doing boring ass monkey work in some cubicle. You probably just picked EE because you took advice from a mongolian barbaque board instead of doing it because you like it. Job prospects are great if you network decently in uni.

>>1509295
>all those STEM memes
kek

>>1519083
dont do it

source : 3rd year law student

So I got a Bachelor's degree in Journalism and Media Management (yeah, yeah).

What would be a good Master's degree to add on to that?

>>1521134
>Is EE/CE a meme?
No, it's good. Especially if electronics interest you.

>>1521134
>I was told that as engineer you can pick up business skill as you go along, the opposite not being true for business grads.
True, you often don't even need an MBA to go into finance as an engineer. But if you know you want to go into business anyway it's still easier to just study economics or something to begin with.

>>1521278
How does one network as an engineer? Any experience or advice?

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>>1521134
>Is EE/CE a meme?
For the most part yes. Salaries are not as big as people tell you, most paths are dead end as you only get to fill one very specific role. You can't climb up the corporate ladder easily and getting a job without 4 years of experience right out of college is hell.

>I was told that as engineer you can pick up business skill as you go along, the opposite not being true for business grads.
EE/CE means that at least you have a decent quantitative background so I think that's to some degree true which is why I'm doing a minor in econ. I have no time to double major in finance but I'm doing my best to get out of this sinking fucking ship. Fuck anyone who tells you that STEM is a way to go. If you are in the US (or any first world country who am I kidding) just pick any career field that deals with money and you should be golden.

>>1521278
>Enjoy doing boring ass monkey work in some cubicle
I'd rather do one repetitive task and have tons of free time to mess around online instead of using my brain 100% of the time and getting paid less. Also
>implying you wont be working in a cubicle as an EE/CE major
I've had a number of internships and if you are in design believe me youll be stuck in a cubicle staring at your computer screen. Any other branch such as being an electrician is not worth is as youll be getting paid less. Engineering jobs also have 0 prestige.

>Job prospects are great if you network decently in uni.
Keep coping, thats only true if you are an ivy league graduate.

>>1521414
>How does one network as an engineer?
Basically, don't be a total sperg and you'll stand out. Practice talking to people if you're not used to it, join a club, go to career fairs even if you're not looking for a jorb. Talk to people.

>>1521491
I never thought I'd be grateful to have a cube, but I am, when the alternative is an open office.

>>1521498
>I never thought I'd be grateful to have a cube, but I am, when the alternative is an open office.
I know right. Having 0 privacy 8 hours a day is draining.

>>1509295
>TFW being a computer scientist and finding fater and a more lucative job than the computer engineer top keks computer engineering is for peasants mostly is physical work real men program.

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/R/ing advice on which masters to get.

I have a vanilla BS in Business.

I'm looking for a master's degree that will increase my guaranteed utility as opposed to potential higher ceiling, if that makes sense (higher lows). I've always been able to get more out of my shitty degree because I am sociopath on the McLeod's scale.

I literally have a degree from Thomas Edison State College (regionally accredited but fully online) and I make decent money (60k, low cost of living) for that absolutely dog shit degree/school combo, and I'm at a company that circle jerks where you went to school and what shoes you wear etc.

When I look to job hop (like I will do every 2-3 years by design), I'm looking for a master's to add to my CV, that's not too niche or too difficult.

I'm thinking of falling for the MBA meme with concentration.

MBA in Finance
MBA in Econ
MBA in Accounting (to work in finance, it's a new trend lately)

But I'll literally do any meme master's - like "masters of management and leadership", if it means I can keep job hopping nicely.

My EXP is in low level leadership, finance, pricing and supply chain.

Thanks in advance. Post your BTC address if you want, I'll send for decent advice.

>>1521491
lmao you're clearly butthurt as fuck that YOU personally failed.
>getting a job without 4 years of experience right out of college is hell
Completely untrue. Literally nobody is out of college with 4 years of experience. Usually 2-3 summer internships. And do you see shittons of unemployed engineers? If you say yes you're kidding yourself.

>tons of free time to mess around online instead of using my brain 100% of the time
See now I know you didn't even join this major because you liked it. Also you seem to have shit work ethic. Engineers work 8 hour work days just like everyone else. "You're telling me I have to WORK at work?" (read: yes)

>getting paid less
A quick google search reveals that the median starting salaries of finance degree holders is about $53,000 while EEs have $61,000. You sure are bullshitting hard.

>Engineering jobs also have 0 prestige
If you're working at a company with 0 prestige maybe. It's a pretty well-respected field. I don't know what to tell you.

>Keep coping, thats only true if you are an ivy league graduate
That sure is a lot of butthurt. I'm sure as long as you're in a decent engineering school you'd be fine. Obviously going to mediocre state is going to make your life harder.

Just broke through 6 figures with com sci in europe.

I think whatever degree you do, you have a chance to get a great job if you are really good at it (or if you are not so bad because the average level of students is really not that high) so I advise to chose a major where you are gifted.

>>1521575
What is the size of your company?

>>1521587
Small sized (less than 500) but very lucrative ;)

>>1521127
Enjoy being a fucking loser without a job then. Don't come crying to biz when no one gives a look at your CV faghot

>>1509295
>Banker
Finance and maths

>Businessman
Business Studies or Accounting

>Economist
Economics

Is it that hard?

I am a youth from Latin America and would like to emigrate to North America or Europe. What kind of major or any other study in economics or business would you suggest to make me desirable there as a potential migrant?
I am currently considering starting a career Economics here but reading that it is more of a social career and needing a PhD to land somewhere outside education is discouraging.

>>1509295
33% of CEO's of S&P500 companies majored in engineering. So engineering is actually highly recommended. Education for engineers is more about training how to approach real world problem solving than specific programming languages, equations, etc.

>>1521827
What you major in is really not that important. Of course, keeping it finance and economic related is the easiest way to get into the business but if you're e.g. an excellent chemist you should go for a major in chemistry and then head into a finance career (MBA could help but is not necessary).
If you decide to go straight into economy almost every degree is the same. Whether you have studied economics, business administration or accounting isn't really that important, especially with the increasing numbers of graduates in most fields. Other things matter nowadays.
You're right though, economists do sometimes land in education but I think this is 1) because they're the only research related economy degree and 2) because of the variety of fields you can work in with an economics degree. You can go into banking, insurance, public office, international organisations, consulting... basically everything what you can do with a business administration degree too (some employees really don't differentiate much between those degrees). What you should look for (especially as a migrant) are soft skills and factors other than your degree. This means studying a year abroad, speaking many languages, good internships (very important!). Just have some impressional stuff in your CV which makes you stand out from the 10.000 other people who studied economics/b.a./accounting/... Of course you want to have good grades in university too, you wont even get good internships without either connections or really good grades.
Just take a look at the careers from famous bankers, businessmen

tldr; It doesn't really matter you major in, it matters how good you are and what you can offer other than a degree.

I work in the software development field and I make around $89k/year, sure I'm a wagecuck, but I'm used to a 10 - 6 schedule and I enjoy my work enough to be satisfied overall. The best part is that software developers are always in high demand, so finding a job isn't hard if you know what you are doing.

>>1509295
>banker
there's nothing you have to major in: i interned at citi with a guy majoring in Classics. you'll find most are doing Engineering or Finance/Accounting, though. most of what you'll pick up in a finance course isn't relevant to valuations or the mergers&acquisitions process.
however, if you were to go into banking studying something OTHER than finance, try and have things on your CV that demonstrate an interest and expertise in finance. the best way to do this is to enter relevant finance competitions, these will be held at any target school. do as many as you can, fail as many as you can, even if you don't get past the first round, you'll learn more than you will from most classes.
interviews are a great way to demonstrate your knowledge (so make sure you follow M&A deals in WSJ, macro trends, have strong grasp on first year accounting), but you likely won't get to the interview stage unless your CV is very impressive in the first place, so don't rely on this - do comps if you aren't studying finance.

engineering is great because it identifies you as a problem-solver who survived a hard, demanding degree.
honestly, your major is easily the last thing you should be worrying about. yeah, it's important to excel in class, but unless you're getting freakishly good grades, that wont be enough. make sure you give yourself enough time to give yourself leadership and community involvement opportunities. it's important you show yourself as a self-motivated, dynamic individual - get heavily involved with student societies on campus (especially ones that offer relevant networking opportunities), get involved with non-profits, etc.
however, THE most important thing is to be involved in the finance community at your target school. get to know the people who already have banking offers or are heading down that path (student societies are great at connecting you here) and make friends. the interview process insight you'll get is invaluable.

>>1522429
Good post. Most people here think way too much about what they major in.

>>1521305
An MBA.

I want to earn money but economic studies,finance,stem are so fucking boring.
I literally wanted to kill my self while I was studying finance.

>>1522842
What does interest you then? You can make money out of everything if you know how to. You don't even have to go to university at all to become rich. I know a few people who own a small (20 employees max) metal workshops and are multi millionaires simply because they have the right machines and (most important) customers.

What I want to say is that there actually is an universal guide for becoming rich. It doesn't work for everyone, but it CAN work for everyone. You like working with wood? Learn it, work a while and try to expend and start your own business. This is how most millionaires are made, not through 4 years of university filled with internships and all that shit. That's just the way to get into high banking.

Also clarify "earning money". How much do you want exactly?

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>>1509295
1st year in college.

MAjoring in Astronomy because it's my passion. I'm scared about finding work after my degree though.

Current goals are to work for NASA or find a job as a professor at an ivy league school. Back up plan is join the Air Force and see where that takes me.

How does /biz/ rate Politics, Philosophy and Economics as single course, given that I will have narrowed down to pure economics by the final year.

>>1524106
Sounds fine. Just make sure to have good internships, join clubs, do some volunteer work... you know the drill.
Everything what >>1522429 said basically.

>>1524097
Astronomy's very bad in career prospects. It deserves better IMO but given its state I would switch to astrophysics since that would open some engineering doors too.

>>1516752
>>1521066
Depends on the job market in your area, but Big 4 fucking sucks, don't listen to any shills tell you otherwise. Big 4 is the literal definition of a wagecuck job. Go into Industry/Private/F500/etc. I was lucky enough to work in an area where small firms/offices and the hospital accounting trumps over Big 4.

>>1509319
>says AMA
>doesn't answer shit

>>1509295
>IT
>good
enjoy getting outscourced because pajeet can do your shitty job for less