I've closing my Ameritrade account after 12 years of stock picking & market timing. More bad years than good years. I'm 100% in Vanguard total market/bond funds now.
I started with $238k. Here's how I did each year:
2005: -$7,178
2006: -$7,315
2007: -$4,527
2008: +$74,085
2009: +$12,364
2010: -$6,573
2011: +$15,552
2012: +$15,472
2013: -$13,881
2014: +$30,584
2015: -$8,296
2016: +$7,621
Total: +$107,910.00
If I had bought an S&P 500 index fund back in 2005, I would be up nearly $300k instead of only $108k.
Just wanted to share.
Recession is at least within the next 4 years, most people on /biz/ have only been trading for a year or 2 max. S&P would have been a great idea in early 2009 though. I plan on going balls deep when s&p bottoms out again. Can't wait until Hillary gets elected.
>>1392610
Imo Hillary will cause decades long stagnation a la Japan. Trump will cause a small crash and then recovery to the moon.
>>1392599
That is fine. You learn and expand your knowledge, and use that knowledge to attack the future. Thanks for the tip.
really makes you thing
If you cant putperform the s&p500 reliably then you shouldnt be investing much
How did you make money in 2008? Did you have a lot of cash sitting around to put in?
>>1392599
>I started with $238k
bourgeois
>>1394401
Shorted financials Oct/Nov '08
>>1392599
>If I had bought an S&P 500 index fund back in 2005, I would be up nearly $300k
that can't be true
>>1394466
>that can't be true
S&P 500 is up 124.8% from the beginning of 2005 to today, with dividends reinvested. Yes, that includes the great crash.
A 124.8% gain on a $238k starting balance would have been a $297k gain.
OP tells the truth. Learn from his lesson.
>>1394466
>>1394466
It isn't. He would be up about $200k.
But still better than the investing he did himself.
Golden advice. I am hoping that OP is trying to tell us that stock picking and market timing is not going to work for the average person. Cause same happened here, would have made much money for me if parked money in S&P index instead of trying to outsmart market. (10% return in 2011-2015 vs >50% return for S&P 500 index).
It's very tempting to try to outsmart market but don't waste your time on this.