>tfw 25 and still live with my parents Is the money saved

>>1250411
half of millennials live with their parents in their 20s

just share an apartment with some friends

>>1250411
Better than living with your parents and being broke, for sure.
I help them pay off the mortgage.

>>1250411
on plus side you can fuck your mom whenever
Norman Bates was an entrepreneur

I retired in my mid-40s. Moved out at 30 for a startup, we got lucky, grew, and I was able to retire a year or two before we exited, which was a nice little cherry on top.

I never wanted kids and preferred fuckin' around with computers to dating anyways. So all I really needed was a 1BR condo. No distractions at home, had $200K in the bank when I rented my first condo and plowed what I would have paid on a home mortgage into the market. Still live in the thing although I could buy it for cash. Cap rates are shit here but I digress.

You probably don't have to make the tradeoffs as extreme as the ones I chose to make, and luck was a huge part of my making it, but it was worth it for me.

The part that wasn't luck - and the part that made it worth it - I literally never worried about where my next meal was coming from, nor whether I'd make rent. At home, duh, my parents wouldn't let me starve if I fucked up. (But I wanted out and it was good motivation to find a job that justified the expense of moving out.) By the time I found that job, I had enough of an emergency fund and money invested in a taxable account that I also never had to worry about making rent/food/health insurance payments.

Good luck, Anon. No shame in it. Also no shame in sharing a place like >>1250424 suggested. You're gonna make it.

I'd rather be ready to live on my own, on my own time, than be pressured to move out when I wasn't prepared. Also the embarrassment is nonexistent. After high school people stop really caring about stupid stuff like that. Besides, most of the Chads and Stacys are too busy trying to raise their 3 kids at 22 lol

>>1250411
I have lived with my parents, on my own, and back again, and let me tell you that moving out is a fucking meme. Unless you can afford it, it's not worth it. Be smart, save up money, and re-invest it into stocks. You'll be making bank and be ready to own a house by the time you're 30.

22 and make 27 an hour, I don't know how I'd be able to afford to move out with that wage. I am still in school and paying out of pocket. I do put about 500 a paycheck into stocks though per month.

The millenials I know that moved out have to be at a shit ton of debt because they're making less than half of what I'm making (minimum wage).

Most people my age live at home so it's not that embarrassing unless you were born in an already wealthy family

>>1250496
I make 27 an hour and moved out. How many hours a week do you work? Where do you live?

My rent is pretty cheap ($750 for a nice one bedroom not too far from work) so it could be I live in a less expensive area.

Not a big deal. Save up and then move.

>>1250512
Live in Toronto, so I'd probably have to share a 2 bedroom apartment

I do only work 34 hours though part time and pay a lot of union dues, pension plan and benefits.

I could move out but I wouldn't be able to save much money if any

>>1250554
This.

>$8K in cash
>$4.5K in debt
>low end estimate for end of the year is 0 debt and $10k cash
>feel I would be safe to move out in Janurary
>wait until June 2017 and have my bro move in with me and cut the rent in half and have $15k in cash

26 living at home sucks, but I will have a better start than any of my friends who left years before me.

OP just buy an rv and live in that. Lot fees Inna camp site are around 4-500 a month includes water sewage trash and cable. Electricity sometimes. Been doing it for 7 years and have 150k in cash

>>1250670
>campsite

>>1250411
Lived with parent 'till 31

Bought house for cash

How's everyone else doing at 32 years old?

>>1250453
Idk dude, seems all the women in their 20s think you must be a loser if you dont have your own apartment let alone your own house. Meanwhile all the guys living on there own are broke living paycheck to paycheck. Doesnt make any sense to me.

>>1250670
This >>1250677
If your not landlocked I would look into the article "get a 30 footer and go"
Living on a sailboat, even if your docked somewhere is becoming a style of living. Especially in places like San Fransisco and certain parts of Washington.

>>1250411
>Is the money saved even worth the embarrassment?
yes. yes it is. but hopefully you've saved a good amount

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>>1250411
in spain, italy and france 50% of men live with their parents at 30yo. only in scandinavia and usa people leave their homes early twenties

>>1250763
must be awkward bring women home to bang every night.

>>1250763
No wonder they are failing.

I am extremely frugal but even I won't ever consider living with my parents to save money. They are absolutely insufferable.

>>1250774
tfw my mom kisses me goodnight and my face reeks like sweaty ass and pussy

>>1250783
>>1250411
This

Idk where you guys live but if youre under 30, you could probably live with some local college students for under 500$ a month pretty easily.

Thats what I do and somehow in a house full of college students im the most sexually active and they hate me because im too noisy.

That shit would not fly living with my parents.

Why do you guys even work if you cant get girls?

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>>1250681
>wasted your 20s

hope it was worth it :)

>>1250694
>hurr durr muh women
pls stop

>>1250850
Not even triggered

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>21
>parents are wealthy but attended cheap state school
>tfw withdrew to get a job because meme degree
>tfw applying to jobs and learning programming / finance on the side
>need a car because totaled in accident few months ago
>find the perfect 8k used car, go to dealer, negotiate, yada yada
>Dad says if we leave he'll call back with a lower offer
>we leave, few days later guy calls back
>finally get the car to the offer it was advertised at. Week of searching paid off!
>dad refuses, says no, convinced he'll call back and go lower
>tfw tell him that this doesn't happen anymore, especially in dense areas where we live, because of blue book value being so readily available
>tfw guy never calls back
>tfw ask my Dad if we should just call him and pick up the car
>tfw he refuses solely because of his ego, says used car salesmen are "criminals" and we don't give them our money

It's really becoming obvious that so many of my problems in my youth can be traced to egotistical parents. It almost makes up for the exceptional number of failures I've had, because at least it totally destroyed my ego. Anyone else know this feel?

>>1250942
100% yes i feel you. i think its part of becoming an adult because you are becoming your parents in a way, like you are literally as smart as them now. Im 21 and it happens all the time with me but if anything it makes me feel more sorry for them than anything, like i want to help them. But my dads so egotistical sometimes i have to leave him alone.

>>1250943
Yeah, that's the worst part. Not only do I see their faults, but I know it's not something I should or could ever bring up, AND it seems to be getting worse over time. I feel like I should be doing more for them, they're quite old now (58), but I need to get on my feet and save up some money first. Plus they're wealthy and barely work so it's so bad for them.

But I never want to become like that. Being old sucks in America. Very few friends, very little social life unless you go to church.

I'm 28 and live with my parents. 300k net worth right now.

Moving out just to impress you women and your broke ass friends is a death trap for millennials.

If you have the job and money to do it without stress, then do it, but if you have a good relationship with your parents and are just average in income, then delay it as long as you can.

My best friend dated his gf for four years and both of them lived at home while they were dating. They just flat out bought a house when they got married.

Make it a goal to move out and be independent, but do it smart. The majority of millennials think they are gaining freedom by moving out, but they're really just putting on heavier shackles with a different coat of pain.

>>1250950
Give your old man some rest. You have enough money to buy a house and car.

Yes, but the lack of pussy might not be.

>>1251063
This.

If I was making 6 figures, I would be set for life. But then again I'm not materialistic enough to spend more then I got.

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>>1250411
Depends, how much money have you saved? What's in your bank account?

>>1250763
>in spain, italy and france 50% of men live with their parents at 30yo. only in scandinavia and usa people leave their homes early twenties

That's because Spain unironically has 50% youth unemployment. Italy isn't doing too well either and France I'm not sure but I've heard has some issues as well.

>>1250949
>quite old
>58

Fuck man I'm 23 and my dad is 71 this year

>>1250411
I'm going for my PhD and I'm 25. I am paying my way through school so I couldn't afford it otherwise.

Is it worth it? I don't know. I know my life will be pretty much ruined but I figure I either do this or kill myself.

>>1250411

Yes for two reasons, one real and one not.

One: Money saved is money saved. One day that money might save YOU.

Two: Maybe this is generic feelgood shit but having a good relationship with your parents is no bad thing. There are so many people I personally know who were told to get the fuck out at eighteen who were then FUCKED. My parents let me stay with them while I studied for my degree, saving me a ton of money and giving me a real place of support when I needed it. If that means some random assholes (of which there are barely any, with so many people these days in the same siutation) look at me weird or some women think less of me then fuck 'em.

>>1251201

I know that feel. I'm self-funding two undergraduate degrees in Political Science and Media. 45K in debt so far and living with mom and dad 'til at least 25.

PhD is a step too far for me at this stage, in terms of time and money.

>>1251210
>Political Science and Media

Couldn't you do at least one degree that actually makes money?

>>1250411
>>1251206
Listen to this Anon, OP, they know what they're talking about.

I left home at 16 and clawed my way to where I am now, so live it up with your parents and just tell everyone else to get fucked. As long as your parents are OK with it, you can be OK with it too.

Only in the west do we put so much emphasis on leaving home. It's stupid considering current economic situations.

>>1251206
>>1251243
What they said OP. Try to help out in the household whenever you can. Laundry, cooking, stuff like that which don't take long but make a difference when done regularly.

>>1250850
>wasted

Why do you say 20s was wasted by living with parents?

How living alone is better? You have less people around you to slave for you. For example, my parents prepare food, drive me where necessary and I can think of the business.

Stupid reason really. Also, frugal lifestyle living with parents makes more sense. I'm building a second home now, but still live with parents, how is this bad? I don't want to clean my own room and shit. Let my granny do that.

>>1251358
you can find obese single moms and bring them back to your overpriced hut for disgusting slampig sex

>>1251415
high test

>>1250411
I'm 25 and live with my parents, but we have two houses on one property. It's pretty comfy. I did roommates in university and it fucking sucked. If you get along with your parents, then what's the rush?

>>1250411
Don't like 50% of 25 y/o's still live with their parents? Hardly an embarrassment.

>>1250468
>moving out its a meme
aahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

>>1251510
>giving money to a bank or some landlord is preferable to investing said money in stocks
Genius I tell you.

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im from spain and I know i will never be able to move from my parent's flat

my dad left and lives in the other flat, so i live with my mom

im fucking depressed all day, there's no point in doing anything, you have no intimacy whatsoever

you can't get a gf because she gets turned off at the fact that im not good looking enough to pull the "careless guy that lives with his parents" schtick so im fucked

i cant study anything due years of NEETing and in general despair at knowing that no matter how hard I study, i cant never make enough money to move, unless i want to move and live on a shit tier place with 0 extra money since it will all go to pay rent and basic expenses, whats the point? i would rather live with my mom and spend any extra money i can manage to make on escorts, at least i fuck hot girls, all other options would lead me to not fucking hot girls. Life is a fucking scam unless you inherit and somehow manage to make a lot of money throw some meme business.

>>1251536
>life is all about having sex with girls

Kys lil homie

>>1251541
must feel good being an stress-free low t faggot.

>>1251543
Lol the frogposting faggot that is crying about his pathetic excuse for a life on an imageboard is calling me low-test. I have now truly seen all this board has to offer

>>1251547
>b-but my frogposting
If you aren't stressed and pissed out at the fact that you cant have a proper sexual life you are a low t cuck. Either this or a coping MGTOW faggot.

>>1251551
Im literally laughing out loud over here. Do you spend 'all' of your parasitic NEET time making implications about the lives of people who are not pathetic enough to pay for sex, let alone spend their severly limited resources on it?

>>1250411

It is. I am 22 and living on my own. I wish I would have had more time to build.

Out of the house by 18 is no longer possible now the thing is

>get a degree
>leave the house

>>1251562
tell us about your magnicifient plan if you were to be in my position

>>1251522
>spend your 20's gambling with stocks hoping you can buy a house by 30
Genius I tell you.

>>1251581
>stocks are gambling
Nigger you just went full boomer.

>>1250774
THIS is my only problem desu

>>1251573
I'd do like i told you and kill myself. That way you can free your parents from the burden you place on them by your stagnate existence. Think about it, you could actually do something great with your life by sacraficing it to free up resources for your parents, thus making their lives easier.

But if you dont want to do that, i would stop feeling sorry for myself, suck my NEET gut far enough in to put on my big boy pants and get a (literally any) job and actually start contributing/working with your parents/mom as a team to improve your lives as whole since you obviously dont mind being around eachother. Whether that means education, more spacious living, or resources needed to develop skillsets or hobbies youre interested in.

Whatever you do, do something that prevents you from shitting up 4chan with your froggy NEET sobstory maymays, at least.

>>1251573
try r9k

>>1250411

What's it like not having sex OP?

Bet it sucks

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>>1251591
They are gambling with more reasonable % of expectation, but in a way they are gambling, and thinking playing with stocks is a solid way to move out at age 30 is delusional, otherwise you would have done it yourself.
>inb4 i did a lot of money on stocks by investing my minimum wage on it and bought a house

>>1251605
You wouldn't do shit if you lived in spain with the highest unemployment % ever + had my ridiculous high libido genetics, also I have floaters on one eye which is ruining my life too.

Let's look at the situation here:

1) Getting a job: impossible, and if you get one it's very temporal, and it pays like shit, like shit. You can NEVER move out with a minimum wage job (actually they pay under minimum legal wage all the time, its a joke)

2) You study a shiton of years, im 30 years old by the time I finish, and no one hires me because "muh experience". Everyone demands experience and I have none = im fucked

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>>1251672

3) Even if after studying, if you manage to get an higher paying job, higher means around 1200€ in spain in 2016, for someone that's new and has no experience, and I know lots of people working for less than 1000€ with college degrees, mostly on those places where you answer phone calls all day, whatever your call this in your shitty language. Now do the fucking math. You can't pay for shit with that. You spend it on the rent, on basic needs, then since you are not a monkey you need some hobbies, so add in a gym membership, an internet collection so you dont blow your brains up and needed in 2016 anyway for everything, phone also needed etc.
You end up with barely no extra money to do shit, so you save it up because who knows if next month they will not fire me. I can't afford doing anything extra that isnt WORKING and EATING basically.
All of this while being genetically gifted with super high libido and not getting laid, so cortisol levels out the roof, stress, just a exploding metabolism. I mean if you are only going to be WORKING and EATING, how the fuck are you going to cope with that without getting some pussy? can I at least get a blowjob?
And even if I managed to attract some girl, it would be a subpar girl that I don't even like anyway.

Thats why I would rather spend it on hot girls, I get what I want for a while, my stress levels lower and I feel good for some time. Now, I imagine myself WORKING, EATING and PAYING BILLS because you don't have any more money and time to do anything else. Where the fuck is the satisfaction on that? you are living to sustain a life of missery, with no reward whatsoever. NO POINT.
Im just being as efficient as I can't with the cards i've been dealt with.

>>1251672
>thinking playing with stocks is a solid way to move out at age 30 is delusional, otherwise you would have done it yourself.
Honestly it is a solid way to do it. You don't even have to do stocks you could try for a business if you want to instead. Financially speaking there is no good reason to willingly subject yourself to paying rents or mortgage interest.

>live at home at 24
>coming up on two years at home after college
>save 20k so far (because I bought a car)
I can't wait to leave, this commute is truely hell, living at home sucks.

>>1251696
Starting a business is suicidal unless you have a good pillow.
Stocks are a fucking gamble man... sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
The only way to make solid progress is to work and save money, which means a depressing life anyway.
Im making the most out of my situation, all other options are legit shit.

>>1251681
>All of this while being genetically gifted with super high libido and not getting laid, so cortisol levels out the roof, stress, just a exploding metabolism. I mean if you are only going to be WORKING and EATING, how the fuck are you going to cope with that without getting some pussy? can I at least get a blowjob?

i cant imagine you having sex ever you fucking autist

>>1251928
Kek he probably doesnt realize how many people are lurking itt and laughing their asses off at his pathetic life. How else does such a loser develop such a ridiculous ego such as his when they have never accomplished anything? Its got to be some form of autism. Either that or he has spent so much time shitposting in /fit/, /pol/ and r9k that he believes that is how real life is.

>tfw 25 and still live with my parents
>own and rent two condos with the money i saved

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>>1251939
>>1251928
kek, wagies mad that im fucking legit 8/10's+ while they have to work to maintain their average gfs if they even get laid at all.

>>1252018

Paying for hookers when you are a neet is pretty sad desu desu. I could understand if you had a based income.

Its pretty easy to fuck 8/10 women if you are rich (without paying them famelam).

>>1252034
>Its pretty easy to fuck 8/10 women if you are rich (without paying them famelam).
Really? I didn't know. It's such a shame that im not rich, and since im not rich, im playing my cards the best way possible to fuck 8/10 women.
And lol at not paying. You are always paying, unless you are good looking.

>>1252043
>You are always paying, unless you are good looking.

Wew. Im in the clear then. Although you are not always paying. Sometimes i just take a chick to my families beach house and fuck them there. 0 cents spend.

>>1252043
how can you even get off fully knowing her moans are fake or exaggerated. kill yourself

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The ppl who make fun of ppl who live at home are literally, oreilly tier irish. Like oreilly, they were cute kids, who morphed into incredibly ugly adults. Their own parents kicked them out because of how ugly they had become as adults. These ugly people now make fun of ppl who live at home, because they are angry they couldnt pull it off themselves.

If you are Chad-tier, living alone is the best decision you can make.

However, if you are a normal dude, stay with your parents. You will get increadibly lonely and lose money.

>>1252121
Basically this.
Wasting 1500 to 2500 a month for an apt is about as keen as spending 400 out of your 500 welfare dollars each month on jordans.

I like how people unironically refer to their parent's house as 'home' and, in the same sentence, mock people for living there.

ITT: a bunch of neets who still live with their parents telling other neets who still live with their parents how fine it is.

Spoilers: it's not fine. you are all fucking pathetic.

>>1251547
kek.

>low-t
>yet is a NEET living with his mom.

>>1252151
>Spoilers: it's not fine. you are all fucking pathetic.

What if you're studying...

>>1252163
IT. IS. NOT. FINE.

>>1252170
..

But it's Law/Finance, it's really time consuming..

And I know how to derivative properly now.

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>MFW he's a loser who still lives at home

>MFW he doesn't indebt himself to me so that he can live alone in a 2BR house

>>1252151
This

>>1252068
>her moans
Hookers don't even pretend to have fun.
Fake moans are a porn thing

I'm 21, full time student and full time worker, regularly do chores around the house.
My brother is 23, part time student, unemployed, and spends his free time yelling at 13 year olds on Xbox

If my parents are willing to endorse his behavior you best believe there isn't a single bit of guilt on my conscience about living with them.

>>1252191
>2BR house
what is that a house for ants?

>>1252151
>ITT: a bunch of neets
my annual income is $78k
moved in after college

>>1250468
Mfw living in UK at 31 with my parents and still only have a £55k deposit

>>1252121
the only legit poster ITT (besides me)

>>1252068
>im rich and goodlooking why are you not happpy and active like meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
kys

>>1252068
how can you even get off if you are not fucking hot girls

I'm 20 and live with my parents, although I will probably live somewhere else next year

im a 33 yr old ivy grad.. I spend all the 1500 a month i save on rent on playing with stocks... literally i am cryimg laughing at the ppl who ARE SO DESPERATE FOR PUSSY that they waste 18,000 a year for no other reason than their bonobo chimpanzee tier sexual appetite
I tell girls straight up that il live with my parents... i still fuck half of them, and the other half that blew me off bc they thought it was weird to live at home are calling me 2 weeks later to say they changed their mind and they dont think its weird... at that point i blow them off, which feels awesome... charlie gellar (or w/e his real name is) from the movie the big short lived at home while making 100 million dollars shorting losers like u guys who wanted to play house

>>1252875
34 in a month too... no shame tho...

>>1252879

You just same fagged youself.

I hate /biz/,

There is a lot of lies in this thread.

>>1251536

The escorts in España are muy caliente.

So I don't blame you.

>>1250512
>>1250572

What do you do for a living?

the one thing you CAN do without money is fuck hot girls. I was sleeping on a bare mattress in Toronto in my brother's shitty apartment and still brought home tons of hot girls.

I was at the point where I ran out of underwear and socks so I just went commando in shitty jeans and the same shirt for a month.

Money has absofuckinglutely nothing to do with game.

Here's how I found myself a girl to move in when I wanted to get away from that bullshit.
Download AirBnB and select your destination of choice

Look for a cute girl renting out a room in her place and rent it for a 5-7 days
When you meet her shake her hand and acknowledge the awkwardness and laugh it off so she doesn't think you're a psycho. It's called cultivating empathy.

Don't even try to fuck her the first night. Instead go out and explore the city and take a bunch of cool photos in cool places with random people.
Show her some of the photos. She'll think you're interesting. Tell her you bet she goes out all the time then probe for her logistics. She'll usually say she's busy with school all the time or whatever. Get a sense for when she'll be free.

Whichever day you find works best with her schedule tell her you're grabbing some drinks with some cool people you met the first day and invite her along. She already has proof that you're fun to hang out with and she'll be open to having a good time.

Now obviously those friends you met aren't going to be showing up. Instead just turn it into a date with her. Show her a good time, be physical, care free, and playful. Man to woman vibe. Kiss her, laugh about it with her, take her to different places in the city you should have scoped out your first day to build comfort, kiss her a bit longer this time. Go back to her place, no need for netflix or any excuse. Escalate and fuck her. Don't make any reference to the fact you met her through AirBnB.

>Protip: On your first night buy a bottle of vodka or wine to share with her.

>Grew up in a remote part of Australia, on an island of 500,000 people
>Near impossible to get a job that isn't retail or hospitality
>No manufacturing, very little white collar work
>The local university isn't all that good compared to universities on mainland Australia
>Applied for a traineeship in mainland Australia, got the job
>Moved to a reasonable sized country town in NSW on my own at age 19
>At the end of this year I'll be moving again most likely to a major city this time with a dependent who can't work at the moment, needs to go to school first

I didn't have much choice. If my parents lived in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane or Perth like most I'm pretty sure I would have stayed at home and gone to university. But where I come from has very little in the way of opportunity even with a degree. Had I stayed I would most likely have spent the rest of my life working at a supermarket or perhaps a menial IT support job.

So I've fucked myself up a little bit in terms of savings, I have 17k in the bank/shares, an old car that's appreciating in value, and now I'm trying to take care of someone who for the moment can't work. But at the end of the day it was a bit of a necessity, I wouldn't have been able to do university in mainland Aus away from home, accommodation would have been too much and I hate the idea of being such a poor cunt for four years. Hoping to do a degree part in a couple of years while I'm working.

>>1252950
Contd.

Now here's where social conditioning comes into play. A woman's biggest fear is being labeled a slut. Society tells her that having sex with a guy she's not in love with makes her a slut, especially if its some stranger she's letting stay in her place. She's thinking about what her friends would think, what her family would think, all sorts of bullshit.

Here's how she will rationalize it in her head: "I don't even know this guy but I fucked him. There must be something special about this guy." She's going to paint over any flaws she may have seen in you in order to convince herself she's not a slut. She's going to be over analyzing the situation so its important that you maintain a solid frame and don't treat it as a big deal.

Wake her up the next morning by eating her out. This always leads to more sex. Fuck her again and really maintain good eye contact and more face-to-face positions like missionary or cowgirl. Lot's of kissing.

Really important to do this even if she has work in the morning. She will be in a really good fucking mood the whole day, and she'll definitely be excited to come back home knowing you're there for another two or three days.

Then just establish a very boyfriend/girlfriend vibe. Lots of sex, a few more dates, inside jokes and shit. Tell her that you really hate that the checkout date is creeping up and that you feel like there's something "there." It always get's the response "I feel it too." Another good one is to say you really want to "Open up" with her. "Opening up" is literally crack for women.

They'll usually make a joke out of it like "You can always stay a bit longer, I'm sure you can pay me some other way." or something of the sort. Take her up on the offer and continue.

If you don't like the girl then its pretty much just rinse and repeat until you find one you do like.

Congrats you've just moved out and are getting laid on the regular.

>protip: keep it up for 6 months and you get half of her shit!

>>1252950

know what's better. renting your room out on airbnb and then fucking the guests. I had a 20 yo Asian girl literally paying to stay at my house to fuck me. Doesn't happen often, but it happens every now and then

>>1252875
Hey ivy grad, did you know that in English grammar you can use one period instead of three and, that they go at the end of sentences.

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>>1252875
>i still fuck half of them, and the other half that blew me off bc they thought it was weird to live at home are calling me 2 weeks later to say they changed their mind and they dont think its weird... at that point i blow them off, which feels awesome...
roleplay

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>it's a "we cant think of any reason to move out except sex" thread

>>1253219
Fucking is literally your only reason for existing. Anything on top of that is just sprinkles.

>>1251750
>Starting a business is suicidal unless you have a good pillow.
Only if you are shit
>Stocks are a fucking gamble man... sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
Same thing

Seriously nothing about living at home precludes working and saving, and you almost certainly lower your expenses. There's no good financial reason for you & your family to double up on housing costs.

>>1252875
From this post I am 100% certain that you ARE NOT an Ivy grad.

>>1253260
>what are better employment opportunities

>>1251667
>implying you can miss something you've never had

>>1253009
These are the things that work in theory but not irl.

For that first thing already
>shake her hand
>laugh it off
>she doesn't think you're a psycho

When do you good-looking dudes get this? If you're below 8/10 this DOES NOT WORK. It doesn't. Period.

You're always a creep for doing this if she wasn't physically attracted to you in the first hand.

This is where "Chad" comes from.
The awkward dude than can be as autistic as a fat animeposter on /g/ and still get laid regularly just because girls will laugh off his autism as "cute" (because they simply like his body and face)

>>1252018
>>1252034
i'd rather fuck a 2/10 who was into me than pay a 9/10.
the fact that someone has to be bribed to fuck you feels like an insult to me.

>>1253455
>the fact that someone has to be bribed to fuck you feels like an insult to me.

>bribed
>bribed
>bribed

kek anon

>>1253451
>Women judge men by the same standards men judge women

As long as you're taller than her, you're good.

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>>1252950
>Download AirBnB

>>1250694
Women who would reject you for something like that are not worth being with.

Find a good girl now who would stay with you while you're low-status, so that you'll have a long-term keeper when things get better.

>>1253455
No girl is really into you unless you are hot, she is just settling for what she can get.
Paying a girl that's hot is more realistic, at least she's hot and you aren't wishing she was hot.
If you fuck a 2/10, she was wishing you are hot, and you are wishing she was hot. It's a 100% lie. Fucking an 8+/10 for money is a 50% lie.

>>1252933
Legit. If I was Amurrican I would kill myself.

>>1253236
the kv neet has spoken

>>1253451
I was cringing while reading that wall of text. I can't believe there are guys talking about "game" in 2016, then we have retards like this:

>>1253550

>>1253620
Actually its virgins that cope the best at not getting any pussy:
>>1253445

The people that aren't that much into sex is due not having options with legit hot girls.

>>1253619
>she is just settling for what she can get.
in real life what happens is most people try to punch above their weight.
especially entitled cunts. they think they all deserve a 25 year old george clooney or brad pitt, even if they themselves look roadkill.

more on it coming soon.

as a 7/10, i get a chance to play with 2-4/10s emotions who, God knows why, take their infatuation with a "good-looking guy as me" as love and, well, try to make it like a movie. stupid idiots.
when i said "into me" this infatuation is what i meant. they think they are in love with me.
with clever use of words i can get them to become friends with benefits and well, i reap benefits like a jew.
as long as I get to fuck a decent enough pussy i don't care anymore.

the only good thing is, if, ever in the future, i had to settle, there are many of such 5-6/10s who'd come running to me barefoot to cook and clean after me for the rest of their miserable lives.

my current plan is to somehow find a vulnerable 9/10 [for her good genes] and through my gift of words make her "fall in love" with me, and get her to not only give me good looking children, but cook and clean after me for the rest of her miserable life.

t. unapologetic fucker who's realized life's never going to be fair, i might as well do a George Soros and become real-life villain

>>1253666

>as a 7/10
> in the future, i had to settle, there are many of such 5-6/10s who'd come running to me barefoot to cook and clean after me for the rest of their miserable lives.
>and through my gift of words make her "fall in love" with me

/biz/ - Roleplaying general

>>1253619
>No girl is really into you unless you are hot, she is just settling for what she can get.
>Paying a girl that's hot is more realistic, at least she's hot and you aren't wishing she was hot.
>If you fuck a 2/10, she was wishing you are hot, and you are wishing she was hot. It's a 100% lie. Fucking an 8+/10 for money is a 50% lie.
wait, i didn't give a proper reply to you.
here it is -

>No girl is really into you unless you are hot,
true, girls look for aesthetic beauty as well.

>she is just settling for what she can get.
see >>1253666

>Paying a girl that's hot is more realistic, at least she's hot and you aren't wishing she was hot.
again true.
but, i, personally, have grown out of that stage. i really just want a friend with benefits hence why i said here >>1253455
i'd rather fuck a 2/10 who was into me. it's just a personal preference now.

>>If you fuck a 2/10, she was wishing you are hot,
no, as a 7/10 guy i KNOW she thinks i'm the HOTTEST fucking guy she'll probably ever shack up with.
girls being girls always try to turn one night stands into relationships and relationship into marriages.
a 2/10 who sleeps with a 6-7/10 is already thinking about the kids they'll have even before the guy has invited her for some "netflix and chill (?) whatever the kids are saying these days.
i just use this hopefulness to get me some easy puossy. Lord knows you are better off without the whole marriage shebang

>and you are wishing she was hot.
of course not. i know she isn't hot. i just like big titties and a wet [and man are they wet] pussy to put my dick in.

>It's a 100% lie.
not exactly. if you fuck a 9/10 for the sake of fucking a 9/10 then fucking a 2/10 is 100% lie.
i just fuck for the sake of fucking a vagina.
100% truth for me.

>Fucking an 8+/10 for money is a 50% lie.
agreed.

>>1253671
>/biz/ - Roleplaying general
sure, man, whatever.
any pussy is better than no pussy [especially when there's no "relationship"]

>>1253666
>more on it coming soon.

Girls are weird.

9/10s are literally lonely and know that EVERY guy who so much as looks at them is only interested in what's in their panties.
Add to the fact that normal guys [6-7/10s] have to work twice as hard to convince these girls that you aren't just out to fuck them. These girls won't ever trust these guys. 7/10 and above guys are bound to be shot down by these op-tier girls. don't even try, man, complete waste of your time.
this is why we see 4/10 goofballs dating these 9/10 perfect girls. because in their stupid little brains, these 9/10s think that a certified ugly guy will think that he needs to prve his love to them and therefore will actually love them [i know, girls are stupid]
these girls, very conveniently, forget that these 4/10s guys have an entirely different kind of brain.
These guys know for a fact that they'll never get a 9/10 for life, so they neevr even try hard to maintain a relationship - which results in these fags seeming confident to the 9/10s. end result being, these hotties think the guy is intelligent and interesting and possibly the real alpha.

the most difficult cookie to crack is the 7-8/10s. [especially for a 7/10 like me*]
they know they are quite good looking, and they refuse to even look at 7/10 guys. 9/10 guys are already interested in 9/10s, or have actually found a 6/10 girl who's infatuated by them to the point of "real love"

the 6s and below up till 4s are like your avg girl who probably do have an extra dimension to their personality, because, guess what, they have to work hard to seem interesting and fuckable [girls have primitive brains and they think this "fuckable" is actually "lovable"].
if you've ever been out and about in the real world you'd notice a lot of the 5-6/10s with 9/10 adonis looking guys which will give most of >>>/fit/ a complex.

>>1253680
cont.

If you are a 7/10 guys [like me], you are fucked, and not in a good way.
you'd either have to settle with a 3-4/10 or may be 5-7/10 with a divorce impending or have to work extra hard on yourselves to get a 9.5/10.
stay away from 8/10s - that's guaranteed suicide tier relationship.

anything below 6/10 is easy. just show them your dazzling smile and get your dick wet.
if you play your cards right she'll be one asking to give a you blowjob every day. you have to non-autistic for that though.

you want to be loved like a god? go for 5/10s [assuming you are 7-8/10]
go back and forth on being extra nice and slightly disinterested. the girls love when you don't put them on pedestal - their facial expressions are never to be taken on face value.

literally r9k with crypto

>>1253575
I wouldn't want to be with a girl that was okay with being with a jobless live with their parents 25 yo.

Pretty good thread. I live in eastern Europe where college is free. My parents said they will pay for everything that I need for school. I also might start working this summer (junior developer in a software company). I have a good relationship with my parents and I wouldn't mind living with them, it's just that our apartment is SO SMALL. I hate having to share a room with my brother as a 18 year old. I have no other reason to move out, really. Hopefully I'll work some student exchange out so I spend a year someplace else. We'll see. Some of these posts give me hope that everything will be alright, which I don't really expect from 4chan

>>1253671
Yeah, if you are going to roleplay might as well do like you and claim rich and good looking status.

>>1253687
if you aren't worshiped by 8/10'+s its over

>>1254125
look, i do wish i was a 9/10 adonis lookalike, but i'm not.
so, i'll take whatever i can.
also, i did say i'm trying to get a vulnerable 9/10 and befuddle her with my words. i'm good at being charming with words, if I do say so myself.
any day, anon.

>>1250411
Say you graduate college then live with your parents for 5 years.

5×12×500=30,000

$30k saved up by age 26 just for not having to pay rent. That is a 20% down payment on a $150k house.

>>1250774
Most of the world isn't as sec u ally repressed as the US. Your parents want grandkids right? Why would they be oposed to dating and sexings?

Okay first, if you can't make it on your own and thrive then maybe you should just live with your parents. Secondly, if you are worried about women, dont. Spending 5k on a /biz/ness trip to thailand once or twice a year is much cheaper that wife/gf upkeep. That being said I do both.

>>1250453
>Besides, most of the Chads and Stacys are too busy trying to raise their 3 kids at 22 lol
So they've passed their genetic heritage onto three children and you're still living with your parents. Guess who's the loser now.

>>1254249
the wagecuck that has to pay for their ebt and section 8

>>1254188
Or you could just get a fucking job get a place with a friend and not be a complete loser.

>>1251358
sorry bro but that sounds pathetic.

Not saying staying at home a little longer cannot be the better option, but it rarely is.

I moved out at 22 and the past 7 years living on my own were absolutely awesome.

Financially the €1000 I pay per month are neglectable.

>>1252018
you are a joke

>>1251358
You sound like you have autism. I'm not even joking.

>>1254292
You fucking get it. I love having my own space and being able to make my own decisions. I rent with my best friend so I only pay 500 usd a month too!

>>1253687
>>1254125
>>1254154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NF5XU-k2Vk

>>1254394
well, at least someone gets it.

Can we please get over this men's looks are important meme.

Yes, if you are a 9 or 10, you can be a total autist and still get chicks. Yes, if you are a 1-3, there might be limits to what you can pull. But let's be honest, most 1-3s are that unattractive because they don't exercise + eat well; how many fit guys do you know who are ugly? They exist, but they're rare. Male attractiveness is chiefly about the ever controllable body.

Beyond that, shut the fuck up. Any guy who is a 3+ can pull by acting confident and behaving like a fucking man. You never hear guys bitch about not being 9-10s who are well adjusted and self-assured. Most women want men who will make their life more exciting and interesting. Get some cool fucking hobbies. Travel. Know thyself.


And as for OP, same kinda shit applies. If you can't be comfortable living at home, don't do it. But if you don't care and feel justified in why you're living that way, there's no problem. People like people who like themselves. It's all about YOU.

>>1252875
top kek sure buddy. Also where the fuck are you guys getting 1500 a month for a apartment? Jesus you can rent a 3 bedroom 2 bath with garage house where I live for that much EZ.

>>1253635
what "game"?
I'm confused here.

>>1254580
That's what it costs if you want to live in a major city with high prices like Toronto, NY, Vancouver etc

>>1254698
Wow. That sucks dick.

>>1254536
>what is baldness
>what is jaw/maxilla recession
most people are ugly. To be good looking you need everything to be on point, which is rare. Most people dream to live the Chad lifestyle of barebacking top tier girls. Who cares about getting laid if you are not getting laid with legit hotties.

>>1254292
>Financially the €1000 I pay per month are neglectable.
Hey guys im fucking rich why are you not rich tooooooooooooooooooo

>>1254321
Im fucking hot girls and you aren't. And that while you pay an entire wage in basic expenses lmfao.

>>1253390
he writes like an ivy grad

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>>1253862
That's because you, like those superficial women I was talking about, have been conditioned to think of someone who lived with their parents in his 20s as a social reject loser.

Not all those who live with their parents look like pic related.
You can have your shit together and be a respectable person even while living with your parents, and often it actually means you're responsible and level-headed, since you're thinking about the future by saving money and building the foundations of a good life in a few years, instead of wasting your future just to look good to superficial people.

If you're trying to get a woman with your status, that will be all she will want you for. If you get her with your personality/looks/love/etc. she will be with you because of those things that got her to be with you in the first place.

There's plenty of good women who are humble and not superficial. You just have to look past the Stacies and I bet you'll find one pretty easily.

Also, I never said anything about being jobless.

>>1250496
think about getting your money out of the stock market, there's a ton of evidence that it's about to collapse.

Depends on the family,

If yours was as fucked up as mine, where you fear for your safety, get out of there ASAP.

If you aren't in school, start working full time or as close as you can. Look on craigslist everyday for rooms for rent, I got mine for $400/mo. Sure you'll be living with strangers, but I got lucky and mine are fine. Take the risk and ask how much they want. If you like it, just move in.

Being away from bitchy parents is pretty great brah. No more "If you don't like it, then leave", now its "fuck you i'm gone". Good luck.

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>>1254394
Kek that song is true.

>>1255356
>a full head of hair
I fucking laughed.
That girl sounds funny to hang out with.

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>>1255368
Pretty hot too.

>>1254536
>this men's looks are important meme.
If you are talking me [who posted the wall of text talking about being loved like a God by 5/10], I never said it's impossible to get girls if you are ugly.
I specifically mentioned how 4/10 goofballs can be seen courting 9/10 goddesses, and gave a reason behind it.

>most 1-3s are that unattractive because they don't exercise + eat well
I think i agree with you.
But, let's also agree that 99% of these guys are never going to make any effort to get >>>/fit/, and therein lies the basis of my hypothesis.
When 1-3/10 fuckers get /fit/ and confident, they become 4-5/10 goofballs who end up courting 9/10 low-on-confidence/stupid as hell bimbos

>how many fit guys do you know who are ugly? They exist, but they're rare. Male attractiveness is chiefly about the ever controllable body.
agreed.

i don't know why you think you are giving these points against my assertion, you are basically talking about the exact same thing as me, just that you didn't count the fact that 99% people are lazy and will allow themselves to get fat [and consequently ugly] and miss out on some prime piece of sexy bodies [applies to both boys and girls]

>Any guy who is a 3+ can pull by acting confident and behaving like a fucking man.
yes. like i said, confident 4/10 fuckers get 9/10 girls all the time.

>You never hear guys bitch about not being 9-10s who are well adjusted and self-assured.
yes
>Most women want men who will make their life more exciting and interesting.
hear hear
>Get some cool fucking hobbies. Travel. Know thyself.
in as many ways as possible, this is how you get better pussy.

>>1254927
>most people are ugly.
sure, but they don't have to be shy, low-on-confidence fuck-ups though.
and let's be clear, most people are incredibly average looking. It's the confidence which, if resonates with the other sex, makes or breaks their sex life [love life for girls]

>To be good looking you need everything to be on point, which is rare.
it is indeed rare. but you can be /fit/ looking, which most people are too lazy to be, and hence miss out on prime pussy (or dick, whatever you like)

>Most people dream to live the Chad lifestyle of barebacking top tier girls.
>Most
dude, every last faggot wants to be chad tapping stacy 3 times a day

>Who cares about getting laid if you are not getting laid with legit hotties.
and this is where i realize you are still young.
when you get near wizard age, you'll realize that good sex is what matters the most. Like i said, i'd rather "make love" to a 2-3/10 instead of paying to "fuck" a 8-9/10.
I care about getting good, carefree comfortable sex, and the 5-6/10s i have been with have been pretty much right up there.
>I do wish i find a vulnerable, shy, 9/10 soon though.

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the whole "its weird to live at home past your 20s" belief is uniquely irish. In ireland it is considered weird because of the following:
1 irish ppl are the cutest kids but the ugliest adults
2 because of this irish people believe that youth=innocence and adulthood=guilt
that is why they view it wierd in ireland to live at home... and why people like bill oreilly try to spread that belief in america...
the rest of europe (germany, scandinavia, gb, the netherlands, switzerland etc... all have people who age well..
because these people age well, they maintain a youthful, innocent look into their adulthood..
therefore they dont view it as weird for a doctor, teacher or airline pilot to live at home....

this isnt true for all irish people, just 90 percent of them...

if you think theres something wrong with living at home, you have shit genes, and you probably waste the rest of your money that you have after spending most of it on an apt to fuck girls on strippers and hookers because lets face it-
Your parents kicked you out because you grew up into a bald fat ugly irishman with a 97 iq and the neigbors were complaining about the smell

>>1255427
Holy fuck, I'd go for it.
The only thing in her list I still don't have is a car, but that can be fixed quickly.
I just hardly needed one.

>>1255460
>because these people age well, they maintain a youthful, innocent look into their adulthood..

You're generalising to a stupid degree. Besides, Irish are genetically British, yet apparently British people age better in adulthood? Makes no sense.

>>1254978
>hey anon, let's go to your home and watch a "movie"...
>mmm, o-ok
>[you arrive home with her]
>hi mom
>[awkardness intensifies]

>>1255438
>sure, but they don't have to be shy, low-on-confidence fuck-ups though.
and let's be clear, most people are incredibly average looking. It's the confidence which, if resonates with the other sex, makes or breaks their sex life
just lol, the only guys getting laid with hotties on teh reg have good faces. If you don't have a good face you are fucked.

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>>1255438
>and this is where i realize you are still young.
im near 27 stop assuming things

fucking a girl and kissing her and seeing she is not a stacy sucks

you'll never biologically attract stacy unless you are chad

its over

>tfw when I'm getting the house after my parents retire
independent cucks blown the fuck out

>>1250763
i'm not sure it's 50% of the population in italy, but yes, there are still a lot of men in their 20s-30s living with their parents.

>>1250779
Yeah lets move out of our parent's house when wages are shit. Its like you think we enjoy being stuck in here.

>>1256086
>implying my mom is awake at 2am on saturdays
>implying if she wouldnt be proud of me if she was awake
kekeke get back to r9k

>>1256118
i enjoy it
at 23 i dont think ill be able to really work and take care of myself ever

>>1252109
>>1252875
>>1255460
>the whole "its weird to live at home past your 20s" belief is uniquely irish
It's not particularly "unique" when it's largely associated with the United States since it used to be very common for men/ex-soldiers to be able to move out and settle down in their twenties. Your posts are garbage.

>>1255460
>"I'm still cute right ma?"
>"of course dear, you're mommy's little pumpkin!"

I'm 27 and live with my parents, I pay rent, but I'm trying to get out desperately. I only make $12.50 an hour though, so even 1bdrm apartments are too expensive unless I spent the majority of my wages on rent (>35%). At this point in my life... It just makes me so depressed. I thought I'd be doing better.

Parents who kick their kids out are economically retarded. A smart family saved money as a unit, a dumb family makes some of its nembers pay 18 thousand dollars a year, each, for no reason

25 here, with 50k saved up. I'm pissed off at where the real estate market it. 400k for a fucking shitty house built in the 70s? fuck that

Had the chance 3 years ago to buy a decent forclosure for 300k but didn't have the money for a down payment. the thing is probably worth $200k more

>>1251928
Yeah man this dudes a train wreck

>>1250411

Time to grow up OP

>>1256135
Wait till 26-27 hits then you'll realize it's fucking over. We were fucked by retarded low wages. There's no way in working if you can't move out with the wage you get.

>>1256131
>implying you can fuck girls in your parent's house unless chad or teen status

>>1250831
>>1250831
Fucking kek man

>>1256420
my wages arent the problem i am
>>1252280
i have 0 desire to move out
this thread has been made countless times and the people here present the exact same argument as always which is
>muh pussy
which means r9k has infested the board

turning 30 this summer. still live at home.

All I do is work the occasional job/tend my webshops, travel 3 months out of the year, play some rugby, lift weights and fuck random sloots around the world.

I see to move out any time.

>>1256512
What exactly does r9k have to do with pussy?
Surprise, surprise my poor friend with confused sexuality: Men have been thinking about muh pussy for as long as men exist.
It's not /biz/related, that's right, but we're also not /lgbt/ here.

>>1250411

You're fine.

Most millenials live with their parents, just save a shit-ton of cash.

>>1256728
hey dumbass if i wasnt straight wouldnt i be chasing boipussy

this is literally r9k because a bunch of insecure 20 somethings are still poor uneducated neets, yet spend all their time obsessing over sex

>>1256512
you sound like a low t faggot, get it checked.

>>1255090
where?

>>1256086
That's entirely my point.
You made it awkward by not telling her you live with your mom until she had to discover it herself.
If in your hypotetical scenario you had let her know beforehand, then she would have reacted in two ways:
1- She could have lost interest in you, in which case it's a win, since you can stop wasting time with a superficial girl.
2- She could have been cool with it, and in that case it's a win for self-explainatory reasons.

That's if you're looking for a relationship. If all you're looking for is one-night stands, then I agree, it's much more difficult (you would have to have sex in your car or somewhere else most of the time).

>>1256092
wish i could sig this wisdom...
good point sir

>>1257696
How about simply go to her place?

>>1254292
How is optimising life and being frugal pathetic?

>>1254930
>Im fucking hot girls and you aren't. And that while you pay an entire wage in basic expenses lmfao.

> /biz/
> I'm fucking hot girls.

Nope

just transferred unis to a uni that lets me sit the exams anywhere in the world basically and anywhere in the country certainly

i figure im never going to get any steam going in Sydney, its too expensive and too competitive

I need to move somewhere and compete with shit tier people for a while

living at home causes depression, for me anyway, and that depression ruins motivation in all facets of life

>>1257711
Yes, that's also an option.

Though, in case of one night stand (where you don't care about how good a long-term relationship with her would be, and you only care about convincing her to have sex with you for that night), I don't think it's very attractive to ask to go at her house because you don't have one. A lot of girls (especially those who you would expect to find at a club or bar) might find it very unattractive and offputting.

>>1257159
wow good thing my low t is saving me a third of my salary

>>1257937
This. Moving out of parents is stupid if you can save money and increase life efficiency. It is your problem if your social anxiety prevents you from bringing pussy and banging with parents the next door. I don't give a fuck and I have never had any problems. I bring girls over with no issues ,after all, I'm the one paying the bills. Parents are just being utilised for shit like room cleanings, food preparing and transportation.

I have about 200k saved up and earn about 70k a year (I'm from Eastern Europe), but no way am I spending even 1/5th of that to "rent" an apartment like some typical pleb.

>>1256173
Nah

>>1255595
British are actually closer related to germans than they are to irish.
Look up european genetic maps, you will find alot of interesting shit. Also look at euro iq data. Then ask how britain and ireland can be so far apart.

>>1252977

fuck university mate

i am basically the same as you but i did a little bit of university and then moved to sydney. UTAS is actually very good for law and some fields of science

>>1257768

I totally relate to the living at home = depression.

I recently moved to sydney from tas. the trick is to fucking compete. expensive as it is, life here is still easier than life in tasmania because in sydney you can actually get a job.

the moment you move out, even if you just live in a bondi sharehouse, you will have so much more balance / self confidence/ energy in your life.

if you want to get a cheeky steak n beer let me know

>>1255460
>claims Irish are low - IQ
>proceeds to use over-simplified, uncultured opinions

Anon, grow up already. There was, for an exceptionally long time, an emphasis on extended families in Ireland. They lived in families of 4+ children and both parents up to (but not limited to) one or two generations ago. Whatever the cause of your sour grapes, it is far too obvious that you are retarded.

You might also want to look up the ties in mitochondrial DNA of scandinavians and brits to the Irish.

>>1258112
nope

irish are the losers the anglo saxons (germanic) chased out of england... they are low iq losers who hate drugs and love big irish bill oreilly...

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>>1258290

>>1257946
No girl will fuck a grown up guy next to their sleeping parent's unless you are Chad Thundercock or something. Stop lying on the internet you doofus.

>>1257745
What's so unrealistic about paying hot escorts? It must really suck living in Amurrica where hookers are ugly nigs.

>>1258878
Why does mine then literally does?

Try not being ugly and beta for change.

>>1258878
BTW, yeah, I'm pretty much a ripped Chad.

>>1259429
>moving out of parents is stupid
>forgets to say he is a 1 in 100th males
kys

>>1259428
You are lying anyway. No ripped chad posts here, and the ones that do don't get laid due massive autism.

>>1253575
The truth is, the women you talk about don't exist. Well, they do, but they're desperate and if they're desperate, that means they're low quality and unwanted to begin with.

Any woman who's worth a shit cares about it, they might bend a little if you're valuable in some way, but deep down, no woman is going to stay with a man that can't support them and their children. It's something that's hardwired in women. That's just the way it works.

You're living in a fantasy land if you play mantras like "they aren't worth it if they don't accept me for being a poor piece of shit". It's not that they're not worth it, it's that you're not worth it.

>800 pound woman goes on OKC
>misrepresents her weight, doesn't show pictures
>finally agrees to meet with some lonely guy
>lonely guy is utterly disgusted by what he sees and leaves
>"He wasn't worth being with anyway. The only ones that are worth it are the ones who can see past my flaws."

>tfw just got a job that's 75 min away but parents don't want me to move out

>>1260040
I don't think you understood my point.

I specifically said I was talking about living with your parents, and NOT about living with your parents while being a jobless loser.
Read this post: >>1254978

I agree on what you said about women not wanting to be with losers who can barely mantain themselves (let alone a woman and eventually children), but we're talking about men who do mantain themselves, but that simply don't live on their own.

Your example is an appropriate analogy only if you misrepresent my point by thinking I meant girls should be attracted by slobs if they're not superficial (which you did).

It's normal for girls to not be attracted by slobs who don't have it together, because being a slob isn't some small irrelevant detail, but it represent the kind of person they are and the future life they would have if they stayed with them (not to talk about the whole evolutionary argument about the genetic predisposition to look for mates who are able to sustain them).

I just argued that not having a house isn't necessary a sign of being a loser, and therefore, if you have your shit together (and, like many on /biz/, think it's wiser to save money by living with your parents), not having a house becomes a small detail that's only important if she cares about the status aspect of not owning a house. Because it wouldn't represent him in any major way (if anything it makes him look responsible to smart women).

A correct analogy would be if a girl hid her tattoos on OKC, since they often mean she's a degenerate/slut, but she could actually not be those things and still have tattoos (like not living on your own often means you're a loser, but you can actually not be a loser and live with your parents for other reasons).

>>1250411
>Is the money saved even worth the embarrassment?
No. Move out.

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>>1250512
>tfw through friend politics I managed to get a huge 4 bedroom appartement for €400/month right next to my job

>>1260524
>but we're talking about men who do mantain themselves,
>but that simply don't live on their own.
pick one

>>1258290
Bill O'Reilly? Irish people couldn't care less about Bill O'Reilly. Or are you obsessing over Americans claiming to be Irish? Have you been near Ireland?

>22
>make ~1200/month
>still live with parents
>saving money like a mofo

I dont regret a single thing

>>1260852
We're in a thread that's specifically about being able to live on our own but chosing not to in order to save money.
Does it look so absurd to you that some people might want to do that?

Can you really not imagine someone with money/job/car/etc living with their parents by choice?

>>1261392
It's been established itt that that makes you a low t homo, to which the only response has been
>nuh uh i get da girls all the time!! ooga booga

>>1250411
>Is the money saved even worth the embarrassment?
no, unless you already have like 500k but in that case you should have already moved out

>>1250783
this. I don't make a particularly great amount of money, but my dad is homeless and my mom's reeks of cat urine. Not an option for me to go back

>>1251681
Waaaaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaah

Boo hoo

>>1260852
I pay more taxes annually than u earn annually. And i am pat bateman and you are louis caruthers.
If you met me you would instantly become a homosexual and start hitting on me, because of how much care i take of myself and my fashion.
And i live at home.
>you are a faggot
>you are a faggot
-pick 1

>>1262614
U probably feel pretty smart spending 1500 a month for no reason other than to ease ur inferiority induced self loathing. The mans answer is to just kill urself faggit

>tfw people itt still live with their parents
>tfw you where forced to live alone when you just turned 18
>managed to get by and now im 19 and studying information systems engineering in another city

>>1250774
>22 living with dad and stpemom
>christians
>never even been able to bring a gf into my room with the door open
other than that my dad doesnt bother me and pretty much lets me do my own thing
would be nice not having to sneak girls over when im home alone like a damn high school kid

>>1257743
Relying on others so heavily for such minute shit is what is pathetic. It's not optimizing by any means.

>>1250442
thank you anon, you motivate me. I'm 27 and almost 28. I'm currently on leave from job due to a disability. My parents are good people, but they want their privacy. I want to go, it's scary as fuck tho.

Any tips for finding a place? I don't mind poor areas just not super hood. My grandparents live in an apartment place that's fairly hood, but the way it's located, it has like .5% crime. gramps a korea war vet and gets social security. Their hood area is honestly pretty cozy.

>>1261564
>It's been established itt...
Which, in other words, means:
>Anon ITT think...

Also it strongly depends on the culture of the area where you live, obviously.

>>1250442

be lucky and have low-T theory confirmed

>>1262819
I pay 800 (utilities and internet included) for a really nice (albeit small) apartment in Seattle. Meanwhile I hear people in this city bitching that you have to be a millionaire to live here. You just have to look around.

>>1262715
>Trying tis hard to justify yourself

>>1250727
How's living on a boat if you aren't used to be on one?

>>1264169
Agreed. Its the same anywhere. You have to shop around to find a deal.

>>1264308
They have barges in London. Shipping container homes, etc.
Barge living is not dissimilar to living in a trailer, but it has a "touch of class" in being seaworthy/riverbound.

I'm 25 and have a good relationship with my parents, and I will also own this house when they pass. No problems at all of that nature so I didn't see a point in moving out again after previously sharing a place with a friend.

I save a lot of money and have no interest in selling this home or this land and will live on it till I die, hopefully.

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bunch of cry babies on /biz/

>>1250442
>lying on the internet
>4chan of all places

>if not lying you admit that your in or over your mid 40`s


kill yourself faggot