"Jobs Anyone Can Do" Myth.

>>1228867

If it was a stupid job then how does it intend to, conform to, etc? We are not the melatonin of our jobs today this is the future anon

By definition, with or without your anxiety, you "can" do it
you just choose not to because you are letting anxiety control you

>>1228867
>I mean I have really bad anxiety problems and there's no chance in hell I'd be able to handle the stress of that dealing with customers and shit all the time

I don't really see how you would be able to function in adult life if you're unable to work a fucking McDonalds job.

What? Are you going to avoid going to the bankteller because "Muh anxiety"? Literally everything in life requires social interaction.

I would really like to see the kind of person who cannot work a job as a mcdonalds cashier. He must be all sorts of fucked up.

Explain to me, when you're talking to a cute girl, does your anxiety start acting up as well? What about when meeting new people? How the fuck do you even live you fucking /r9k/ zeta

>>1228875
>What? Are you going to avoid going to the bankteller because "Muh anxiety"? Literally everything in life requires social interaction.

Not the same as being the bank teller dealing with multiple people one after the other

Obviously you don't know what having anxiety is like.

>>1228882
Get over it cupcake.

If you can't work at McDonalds then get used to living with your parents until they die and then tryign to get the government to foot the bill

>>1228885
It isn't something you can just get over, would you want your bank teller to be a nervous wreck? No you wouldn't you'd want them to be fired with your attitude.

>>1228867
>I mean I have really bad anxiety problems
Anyone could do fast food or retail you're some weirdo faggot claiming to be too anxious to do it.
Because "you" feel that you can't do a job doesn't mean everyone else can't. I saw a fucking stocker with Down's at the target the other day. Down's fucking Syndrome stocking selves with zero help. But you want to sit where ever you are and mope about "muh anxiety" self diagnosis. If you can't do a simple job, a job a retard could do, then it's something wrong with you. Not with the statement, not the assumption, you.1

>>1228894
I never said everyone else couldn't I'm saying there's no such thing as a job that take any living person on the planet, stick them in it and they can do it.

>>1228892
>It isn't something you can just get over, would you want your bank teller to be a nervous wreck?

Explain. What exactly is so worrying to you about saying "Hello! Welcome to McDonalds! what would you like to order sir? ... Is that all? Ok your order will be ready in a moment, your total is $x.xx" Then you count the change and hand them their order.

Is that difficult to you? Which step is worrying you?

If you are incapable of doing this I don't see how you have any friends, a girlfriend, go to University or anything else which is normally considered part of normal life.

>>1228882
>Obviously you don't know what having anxiety is like.
Oh fuck off. I've worked with people who had real anxiety issues, ie they've seen a docotr and medical professionals to insure it wasn't them being a huge pussy. They took meds, learned to cope, and they performed just as well. If you really had anxiety you would try to treat it because it's a stifling mental issue but instead you're using it as a crutch and excuse.

>>1228899
Well there's multiple things including actual physical symptoms it's not as easy as it sounds.
>>1228903
Not an excuse it's just those jobs specifically I can't do I could do something else.

>>1228896
Well it's assumed that no human would die to a vending machine, but that shit happens. But it's still common knowledge that a vending machine won't kill you. If you turn out to be the retarded getting killed by one, it doesn't turn them into proven human killing machines.

>>1228905
>Well there's multiple things including actual physical symptoms it's not as easy as it sounds.

Explain to me on which step of what I described is troublesome to you.

This is fucking basic part of life. I think your problem is that you are a manchild who has been sheltered his entire life by his overprotective mother(or perhaps mother who feels bad to kick him out) and thus never learned how to be an adult.

Stop being a whiny retard. I bet if your parents kicked you out at 18 you would be totally different. You wouldn't be whining about "Muh social anxiety" you'd be doing shit to things done.

>>1228896
You're a very naive person if you think that. You must be very very young.
There are jobs out there that you can put any person in that job and the can perform the duties needed. Obviously they'll have to learn and adapt but once they do they do just fine Which I think that's your issue. You're afraid of the challenge and the learning.
Fucking people who sell newspapers on the side of the road, sign spinners, concession people at ball parks, floor cleaners, retail stockers, I could name more aren't brain surgery. They take very little learning, very little customer interaction other than talking to them and taking their money.

OP, people in /biz/ are too busy making money to have any sympathy for you. Even though I am lying right now you should have known when you posted that not having a "can do" attitude is looked down upon here but being an overly pessimistic asshole isn't. Please lurk more and maybe make a pity thread on /r9k/ where they do a lot better. If you really want to discuss "jobs anyone can do" then that's fine. Big corporate jobs like Walmart have a hiring process and no, not anyone can do them in regards to that. Some people don't have the personality for the job according to their standards, some people are "too smart" for the job. There are a lot of reasons for employers to be selective. In terms of being capable, I think most of the population is and the skill level needed for a job like that is low. That's why they are referred to as "jobs anyone can do".

As far as your situation. If you really needed the money and you were offered a job at wal mart after you applied would you say no even though you were an anxious fucker? would you rather live on the street?

>>1228912
I've had anxiety since elementary school this isn't fucking new.

>>1228916
OP should go to /adv/ too. They'd probably say the same thing we've said but there are more numales and women on that board so there's a good chance they'll coddle him.

>>1228916
Well yeah I just know that I'll never be successful like that always having to go from one job to the next.

>>1228918
You mean you have been a lazy shit since elementary school.

>>1228923
Nope my grades in k-12 were usually pretty good and college average. Not lazy.

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>>1228927
Did you see a psychologist?

What have you done to work on your social anxiety?

Fucking lazy retard. If you have trouble, BREAK IT DOWN INTO STEPS AND WORK ON IT.

>I have shitty social skills
>Ok what do I have to do? What can I do presently? Well I guess I say hello to people and ask how their day is. Ok i'll start with that
>My goal: Say hello to 15 people per day and ask how their day is and then work from there

Do that kind of shit idiot. Work on your problem solving. If you're bad at something you don't just abandon it and say "Whatever i'll try to figure out how to avoid it instead of fixing it".

>>1228922
success is something that happens slowly over time, with a lot of investing in yourself. Do something you enjoy and find a way to make it shine. Most people don't have the luxury to choose something they enjoy though. Wal Mart jobs probably won't grant you the level of "success" you wish you had. Ambition is good. The more you fight societal trends and get good at what you want, the more successful you'll be. That's how I see things anyway. ;)

>>1228936
Yeah that's the hard thing finding something you feel you can do and not always be miserable at it when everyone just wants you to "pick anything and shut the fuck up and deal with it" when it's a lot more complicated than that.

>>1228867
>I have really bad anxiety problems and there's no chance in hell I'd be able to handle the stress of that dealing with customers


I for one, am looking forward to the day when payment machines replace fucking cashier monkeys.

I love Japan's small restaurants & their efficient systems.

Why the fuck would any rational business owner pay a fucking disgruntled laborer who hates his work when a machine will happily do the job?

>>1228867
>I mean I have really bad anxiety problems

Get on disability or SSI for depression and anxiety then.

>>1228940
>Yeah that's the hard thing finding something you feel you can do and not always be miserable at it when everyone just wants you to "pick anything and shut the fuck up and deal with it" when it's a lot more complicated than that.

Try killing yourself and hoping you get reborn as someone with good social skills next life

>>1228958
Nah I wouldn't do that, that's basically stealing.

>>1228940
ahahaha, yes, if you are still in college wondering what you want to do collecting debt then... the debt will probably force you into an average working life unless you work extra hard and double time your college education and your passion. If you don't have a passion then maybe start looking. I went through something similar though I was a normal guy. I wanted to be a boxer in college. I boxed for a while (year and a half) then got sick and realized that getting sick wasn't something I could control very well, then got frustrated that I couldn't train any more. I lost my passion for it, decided the pen was stronger than the sword anyway and started web development (had a degree in sociology). Now I want to be an ubernerd and after 3 years of employment am freelancing. Slowly I work more on my skills. My first passion was music though and my tracks were all shitty. I didn't want it bad enough. That's what it comes down to. How bad do you want it? That and finding a balance between other parts of your life in the whole mix if they are important to you. Don't stress about it too much young man.

>>1228961
Are you just going to ignore my suggestion to help you?>>1228935

Have you spoken to a psychologist?

Have you tried working on your anxiety in any way?

>>1228962
I already graduated but even in my IT degree there were specifics inside that that (like programming, web stuff, networks, etc) could never figure out what I wanted and college didn't help me much in that it hardly was hands on even in later years, in a way they lied to me.
>>1228965
Not seen any lately but had in past, I've actually improved some since switching meds and other little things it's gotten a bit better since a year ago. But it's a real slow process everyday. Recently after something happened that I won't get into I had a pretty bad attack though.

>>1228899
like you really have to experience anxiety to understand it. people like you are horrible people. you don't listen and expect everyone to conform to your world view

>>1229008
How convenient. You can just claim to have anxiety and since it can't be proven and you "have to experience it to understand it" it cannot be disproven either.


>I have anxiety mom! sorry can't work! Sustain me while I play WoW all day, sorry... Anxiety!

I actually might get a job tomorrow I just found out job finding place found me an interview! I mean I've done one before so I'm not so scared about that this time.

>>1228935
xanax is a wonderful drug btw
like i could do anything on that drug
without it, i was almost getting into wrecks driving on the highway cause my body would start to shake so bad cause i was freaking out

>>1228867
be a night shift worker. they usually dont require much interaction with the public. A night time security guard will usually have no interaction other than other security guards.

>>1229013
it can be proven
thats why they prescribe medication. cause these medicines were designed to reduce or increase certain chemicals in the head

>>1229027
>it can be proven

How? It's literally just your word, same with "depression".

I can go to a psychiatrist and claim I have severe depression and want to kill myself and there is no way for them to disprove it or differentiate from me lying or not.

It's not like they can take your blood and say "ok you have HIV", it's just whatever you say.

>>1229032
depression is different. different chemicals causing different moods.

what they'll do is talk to you about it see how true it is before giving you drugs and then they'll start prescribing you drugs until they see which mix of drugs has improved you the best.

they wouldn't have these drugs if they weren't targeting specific parts of the brain. we know these things already...

of course physically finding this shit on you is going to cost a fuckton more money and expose you to radiation.

>>1228899
it's a physical response you stupid fuck. you don't "explain" social anxiety any more than you can explain why you'd tense up if a snake or a tiger appeared in front of you. your body reacts automatically

>>1229041
But this isn't true...

I can go to the hospital right now and say I want to kill myself and I have been depressed for weeks and I'm going to hang myself.

There is no way for them to say "No you're not you're just lying".

>>1229045
because if they didn't do anything and you killed yourself they'd be liable.

do you know what liability is?

>people haven't experimented with the brain by injecting it with certain drugs

You must have missed the 80s and the 90s.

>>1229026
Well I've mostly looked at some small warehouse jobs and that's what this interview is. This job seems perfect for me I hope I get it (and actually get to do it last interview I had I got the job but then before starting they changed their minds and didn't hire anybody which screwed me and other people who they said got hired)

>>1229032
>mental illness can't be easily measured therefore it doesn't exist

I honestly would enjoy strangling you to death

>>1229051
>I honestly would enjoy strangling you to death

It's too bad you're incapable of it because your made up "anxiety" prevents you from going to the gym to sign up for a gym membership

Enjoy being a loser and then killing yourself, lmao.

>>1229056
epic troll man. u totally trolled the shit out of me lmao u really got me good.

>>1228867

I see people are shitting on OP, but really, there are probably many successful people out there who literally couldn't do cashier work just from involving way too many random people giving their orders, the standing up, the heat, the quick money exchanges, et cetera. Perhaps "anyone can" do McDonald's but certainly many would get fired.

>>1229058
But really though, if you have such severe anxiety how do you even live?

Do you go outside at all? I don't quite understand this.

>>1229056
you sound like a real piece of shit

>>1229058
real talk. you can get on social security disability benefits but you can guarantee they are going t ocheck up on you to make sure your not out partying and doing things. If you already dont go anywhere because of your problem then this wont be a problem for you. The money might break you out of your self confidence problem though and you will have to get a job if you want to join society ever again. But that would be a good thing for you right? I'm sure you dont actually want to be alone all the time.

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>>1229074
Be honest.

Have you ever had a girlfriend?

How many people not in your immediate family wish you a happy birthday each year?

>>1229073
I'm not OP.
I go to work and suffer through it, and it's awful.
It's just aggravating when people claim it doesn't exist.

>>1229075
I've applied for disability and got denied. I go to doctors and they tell me to fuck off and deal with it. so I really have no options except to force myself to go to work every day with people who hate me because I lack social grace since I'm in a state of panic constantly.

>>1229078
ive had a few, but most of them weren't mine. (if you catch my drift)

all of my friends i grew up with are dead.

>>1229078
to be honest the only reason why they cover severe social anxiety as a disability is because people are generally giant assholes in America and wont let people be even into adulthood.

>>1229087
Good

Fuck you I'm not giving you my taxes

>>1229089
>all of my friends i grew up with are dead.

Was their social anxiety that much more severe that it finally got to them?

You should join them

>>1229087
you need to go to a psychiatrist if doctors wont at least prescribe you medication.

>>1229093
don't worry I probably make more than you little buddy

>>1229095
people like you are the reason your taxes will cover the living expenses of these people. sounds like you need to grow up.

>>1229096
been to a psychiatrist. tried the meds and i believe they actually fuck you up even worse than you started. the only option is to work out eat well and try to stay positive even though the anxiety never goes away. every day is difficult but no one will believe you or care, they'll just judge you and hate for not being happy and social enough at work.

>>1229095
Yes, actually. They all killed themselves.

I can't wait until you lose the people you love. (if there is anyone, that is)

>>1229093
That we have people with this attitude is really sad.

>>1229102
I guess you could always start talking like a robot. seems to work for the autistic.

>>1229097
>don't worry I probably make more than you little buddy

No you don't, no friendless autist makes more money than me.

>>1229104
Kek, they say birds of a feather flock together.

>>1229102
>tried the meds and i believe they actually fuck you up even worse than you started.

The med I'm taking now is probably better than what I had before. The one I was taking (Effexor) the withdrawl from that alone even doing it the taper down slow method is a hell I wouldn't wish on anyone. It can be it's own hard process finding a drug that at least helps some but they never are cure alls. I even tried the not on anything way and that really affected things like my sleep.

>>1229114
so being as asshole you hang around with people that are assholes to you? makes sense

>>1228867
You are a bitch.
No further participation in this thread should be nessesary.

>>1229151
woah, keyboard badass, calm down there

>>1229151
I'm a bitch who actually has an interview tomorrow thank you very much.

I've got PTSD, anxiety disorders out the wazzoo and depersonalization disorder, and I'm borderline schitzo.

That's a result of 1 year of torture and several years of combat.

Buck up. Worst that can happen is you die, and you know what? You kinda wanted that anyway, so there's no reason not to do it.

Besides, 99% of the people you see are too focused on their own shit to give a rats ass about you or what you're doing.

>>1228870
By definition, an amputee can work construction. He's just letting his lack of limbs control him. :^)

>>1229202
Well no I'm not so depressed that I'd want to die. And while I guess that last bit's true it still isn't a cake walk to overcome it.

>anxiety

When will this modern day snowflakeism end? None of this shit existed back in my day!

>>1229230
Snowflakism is where everyone feels "special" and with anxiety you a lot of times don't feel that good about yourself . Opposite

>>1229230
you lived in a time where men dealt with problems head on. now they all act like women ie frienamies, backstabbing, spreading rumors, being two-faced are all perfectly acceptable behaviors, fighting is barbaric so no line cant be crossed, and if you do something about it you will be looked down upon by your peers. Some people are having trouble adjusting to the nu-male world.

>>1228867
Fast food and retail jobs sound exhausting especially for what they are and how shit they pay. I believe there's work that anyone can do based on their condition, but I'm not talking about this one size fits all bullshit.

>>1228875
>Are you going to avoid going to the bankteller because "Muh anxiety"?
>Bank teller
Get with the times grandpa, the average person living in a developed country rarely has to visit a bank.
>Literally everything in life requires social interaction.
lol

>>1229263
The world is a different place, we should be examining the structures that caused this change so that future generations wont have to deal with the same shit.

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>>1229230
>the past is still presently occurring!
>said the dinosaur

>>1229346
I'll tell you right now what happened. Its when schools adopted the zero tolerance rules for fighting. If you dare to defend yourself you will be expelled. change this one rule and everything will go back to the way it was.

>>1229346
>Fast food and retail jobs sound exhausting especially for what they are and how shit they pay.

Or even how some in this thread have shown the type of customer you would have to be dealing with who wouldn't honestly give a shit and want you to be their little bitch. I can never recall a time I was that assholic to a worker at fast food or retail even when I was a bit mad at them, but the stories I always see it's pretty sickening.

>>1229466
its an unfortunate effect of the "customer is always right" meme.

The customer is in fact frequently wrong, and forcing your employees to bend over backwards to someone who is purposely being an asshole is terribly demoralizing.

>>1229475
>The customer is in fact frequently wrong, and forcing your employees to bend over backwards to someone who is purposely being an asshole is terribly demoralizing.

Maybe you should have studied in school or started your own business instead.

>>1228867
>anxiety

Dishwasher?
Toilet cleaner?

>>1229227

You're comparing someone with a physical disability to someone with first world problems that needs to stop being a bitch

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Anxiety Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Talk To People Like Nigga Go Outside Haha

>>1228875

I write articles as a job and I sucked at any job that was fast food when I was younger. I'm a huge clutz and have really slow physical reactions so I did something better suited to my skills.

I can believe someone being bad at fast food work or being unable to do it if they have a physical or mental disability.

Working online is a good solution to that, provided you have a marketable skill. Graphic design, writing, tutoring, etc.

>>1229496

I don't work in retail friend. It's just a fact that treating your employees like garbage is going to hurt your business.

>>1229058
You bit the bait, get over it faggot, Jesus crispy Christ.

>>1229613
>It's just a fact that treating your employees like garbage is going to hurt your business.

But that's not a fact.

The businesses who treat their employees the worst generally have the highest profit by far.

>>1229600

Anxiety is a real condition, it's not just feeling nervous though, which is what some people equate it with.
It has physical symptoms such as frequent panic attacks and increased heart rate, dry mouth, just to name a few. The panic attacks are probably the worst of it, since they aren't controllable or are often are triggered by certain things.

>>1229623
You probably made it up to deal with the fact that you're mediocre at everything you fucking pussy

>>1229624

I don't have anxiety. I was just explaining it. Butthurt much?
I do have a physical disability though which is why I stopped doing physical work.

>>1229631
Is your physical disability being a lazy fatass with low testosterone?

>>1229633

I know it's bait, but I'll bite.
I have an autoimmune disorder and fibromyalgia.

I do work online to cover what I need, never went on any welfare or anything. But OP is referring to a mental illness which is one reason someone wouldn't be suited to fast food. Doesn't mean they can't work in some other way though.

>I have no skills, but am social and want money while working in climate controlled comfort

Retail

>I have no skills, am slightly social, and want to make money working in a climate controlled environment.

Food service

>I have no skills, not social, and want to make money while not dealing with people

Warehouse and basic manufacturing

>I have no skills and want to be the male equivalent of a prostitute

Construction and general labor

>>1229645
Shut up pussy

>It took him 5 minutes to google an illness to lie about

Just tell the truth, you're fat and have low testosterone from the garbage you eat.

>>1229651

Well the low test is true since I'm not male.

>>1229645
>OP is referring to a mental illness which is one reason someone wouldn't be suited to fast food

You don't have time to 'think' and 'interact' working at fatfood joints. Only 'anxiety' I ever felt was going to work because I hated it, grow a set, get over it, do your job, don't over achieve in it either because then you'll get shit on, get off work, and buy a pack of smokes.

>>1229653
>I'm not a male
You know the rules. Tits or GTFO.

>>1229653
Post proof you're not fat

>>1228875
>What? Are you going to avoid going to the bankteller because "Muh anxiety"? Literally everything in life requires social interaction.
When have I ever needed to talk to someone at the bank? Deposit checks with a smartphone app, withdraw/deposit cash at the ATM. Literally why would anyone need to talk to anyone at a bank? I just opened a checking and a savings at Cap One 360 online. No people interaction.

Separately but related, stores are installing kiosks to order things from and have self-checkout, mobile checkout is on the horizon, restaurants are installing order-here-pay-here kiosks. Interaction is becoming less necessary every day.

>>1229653
gender fluidity is a psychological disorder, family, get urself to a doctor.

>>1229666

Tumblr might be a better site for you if you actually believe that trite.

>>1229659
the autism is strong with you

>>1229671
>Tumblr is better
No, a doctor's office is better. Somewhere that can give you the anti-psychotics you need.

>>1229671
Post proof you're not fat or a trap

>>1229654

I think the thing is OP should find alternatives for their problem. I rarely complain about mine, I just do my work. I know I'm not suited for some jobs so I find others. There's nothing wrong with admitting that you would not fit in with a certain job, although trying it out first to see if that's true is a good idea.

>>1229659

I eat one meal a day, if anything, I'm closer to a skeleton.

>>1229674

Well I'm glad this thread has been sufficiently derailed. OP should be thanking me.

>>1229679
g o t o a d o c t o r d u d e
you need m e d i c a t i o n

>>1229679
>I eat one meal a day, if anything, I'm closer to a skeleton.

This is unhealthy, you are not getting the nutrients you need. Are you taking a multivitamin?

What is your approximate height/weight? How many calories are you consuming per day?

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>>1229681
Jobs: "Anyone can do meth."

>>1229679
>>1229684
Please answer the questions. This is very important, I care about your health and I worry you are underweight if you have been eating only one meal per day for a sustained period of time.

>>1228867
it doesnt have to be stressful, just say what a lot and make them scream their order

>>1229699
>just say what a lot and make them scream their order

If you did that to me I would throw a brick at your fucking teeth

>>1229684

I'm fine weight wise. I'm only 5'2" and weigh about 110. This actually isn't too bad considering height.
I get all nutrients from multivitamin and I usually have one big ass smoothie for breakfast since I can't digest most food too well without getting IBS.

Save some of that worry for people who can barely function, know a guy who is bed ridden who can never do his dream job because of permanent disability. I'd kill myself if I got anymore disabled.

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>>1229725
>I'm fine weight wise. I'm only 5'2" and weigh about 110

That's a good weight for your height.


>Save some of that worry for people who can barely function, know a guy who is bed ridden who can never do his dream job because of permanent disability.

Yeah those situations suck but the way I like to look at it when I was injured is: "OK so my x is fucked up and I can't use it... But my other x is perfectly fine, and I got fully functioning legs(for example), and my brain is fully capable, so there's still lots I can do".

I guess it's just a positive outlook on things that really changes everything, a guy who is bedridden might never be able to become an athlete, but he can still become a good software developer or change the world for the better in many other ways.

Kill yourself to end it

>>1229725
Post your feet btw

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>>1229805
>Another /biz/ forum that will get <50 total posts and die again within a week

>>1228875
>>1228899

You must have a very limited life experience. I'm someone that can't deal with people or groups and would likely perform horribly in a fast food job. Thankfully I do something that only requires me and my computer--so yes, you don't have to a damn social butterfly to do things in life. Too bad you really are just a self-centered idiot to process the argument though.

>>1229604

Is maintaining a blog a good way to come across writing jobs? When business is good for you, what do you pull in?

>>1229622

>the businesses who treat their employees the worst generally have the highest profit by far

Please tell that Google, or any other modern tech company.

Meanwhile retail is failing because of high turnover and the expansion of online outlets. Fuck knob twisting and fuck you.

>>1228867
>can't do this type of work because much anxiety
>been switching works because he sucks at them
>is going for another interview soon
>not afraid of interview because its not the first one
Are you actually serious nigga? Its not anxiety, its fucking autism. If you are not afraid of interview because its not first one, how would you be anxious after serving x amount of people? You are just a lazy fuck scared of change and hard work. You probably had so much trouble speaking with people when you were young that you grew so retarded that you panic when you need to interact with people. Its not mental illness, its being lazy retarded fuck.

>social anxiety exists because pills stimulate brain.

Ofc they do, so do drugs, it doesn't make it any more real than santa claus though. Its just a clever way of being lazy prick who doesn't need to do shit because much anxiety.
Other people have problems too, we also feel stressed when talking to someone new, but we try our best instead of acting like "can't do this, i has much anxiety"

>>1230751
Oh I was afraid I ment that having the experience of the first one helped me with the second one, btw I got the job I train tommorow and prob start either the next day or monday.

>>1230872
So basically, having experience means that your "social anxiety" is not a problem, but working your way up from zero (after several customers you already have enough experience I guess) is that hard? I smell bullshit, especially since job interview is several times more stressful situation for a person than simple taking orders.

>>1228867
'Jobs the 80% that produces 20% of society's value could do, but the 20% that causes 80% of society's problems couldn't' is too long.

>>1228875
Oh, they exist. A lot of call center employees could never hold down a job at McD's. People think McD's or Walmart are the bottom of the barrel because of how they treat their employees, but there are plenty of people who lack that competence.

>>1228892
See, I don't believe this. There's this great thing called 'Neuroplasticity' which makes the whole 'you wouldn't tell a cancer patient to snap out of it' comparison kinda bullshit.

>>1230876
No it was still a problem I still had anxiety during the interview but since I did it once before I had less of if and learned from past mistakes. All I'm saying is that it went better. Hell I got a job now from it.

>>1230969
Yes you can improve it but you can't totally cure it. I've improved myself since last year but no it hasn't gone away, it's a part of you, nobody has ever completely cured themselves of it.

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>>1231027
>you can improve it but you can't totally cure it.
>it's a part of you, nobody has ever completely cured themselves of it.

What a load of shit, speak for yourself faggot, i've had really bad anxiety for a whole year before i learned how to deal with and now its gone, and i dont mean kinda gone, or that i just learned how to deal with it, i mean its fucking gone, i dont even get nervous from stuff that every normal person would get nervous from.

i used to get fucking panic attack so bad i couldn't leave the house, i'd avoid anything and everyone and still feel my heart racing like it was going at 200BPM, could barely sleep, lost weight, basically thought i was going crazy 24/7,

took me a year to figure out how to handle this shit and understand that the feeling itself was all in my fucking head, that the fear of the anxiety returning is what was keeping it alive, sure it has physical symptoms but YOU are the one causing those physical symptoms, just like when you get angry you start sweating and feel hot, thats the body responding to what you're feeling, not the other way around, you're the one causing it and and you can also stop it, as i'm sure you know when having a panic attack the fastest way to get out of it is to get distracted by something, anything, and you're out.

anyhow that was like 6 years ago, i've been anxiety free for at least 5 years, live a normal life, work full time 9-6 in a hectic programming job with deadlines and customer support, before this job i worked in a call center where the phone never stops ringing, just reading this i bet your palms are getting sweaty.

i also trade altcoins and not even that stresses me out anymore,
i never took any pills to get over this shit, its 100% in your head, i cant teach you how to get over it, you need to figure this out on your own, but know that its possible,

you still have anxiety is because you've accepted this situation as permanent, your defeatist attitude will be your doom.

>>1231582
Not him but I have similar issues too and would be extremely grateful if you could help us get better.
Is there a book or other resource you suggest where we can learn the right mindset?

>>1231582
How do you explain being in a good/fine mood and it still happening then. You aren't thinking about anything bad and forcing the symptoms out then . I can see what you are saying about having a negative attitude but it doesn't explain situations like that.

>>1231722
>would be extremely grateful if you could help us get better

Would if i could, not sure how i can help though, everyone handles things differently and honestly i'm not sure what i did would work for you, but here goes,

Basically when i still had anxiety/panic attacks the first thing i did was try and avoid unnecessary stress or "triggers" i know this cant be done to 100% and its not a solution but it helps to learn how to cope if the volume is lower,

the panic attacks/shaking/racing heart and all that jazz went away when i started to do some breathing exercises, when my heart felt like it was racing and i got the shakes i'd take slow medium sized breaths and exhale very slowing while thinking about my heart slowing down, almost feeling it slowing down, this helped a lot, eventually downloaded an app to my phone that measured heart rate, i swear breathing out slowly actually makes it drop, and the other thing i found out is that even if my heart felt like 200BMP it really wasnt once i checked it.

the general anxiety went away after a long while by keeping busy with things i enjoyed, video games, gardening, youtube, even reading on 4chan is fine in my book, anything that is entertaining and gets you mind off how you feel.

once i wasn't scared of panic attacks returning since i knew how to handled them they slowly but surly stopped, and after that i started to SLOWLY return to a somewhat stressful environment, i did get stressed/anxious, but you get use to it until you dont feel it anymore.

Hope this was helpful to anyone.

>>1231726
i cant explain it, the only thing i could do is take a wild guess that the body gets use to producing the feeling that it does it on auto pilot sometimes..

>>1232298
So then you can admit there's somethings that really aren't the fault of the person then.

>>1232298
Thanks man, I appreciate it.
I'll definitely try to keep those points in mind.

>>1232315
I think he meant that you get anxiety without being at fault because you're in the condition to get it when it's triggered by whatever it triggers it, and that you can get out of that condition if you want it (and he says how he did it).