It literally does not matter how good you are at something unless

We know.

Thanks anyway though

>>1217986
What the fuck do I do then? I should have been taking like social speaking classes for 4 years instead of getting a worthless comp sci degree no one cares about. Is 23 too late to change this situation?

>>1217991
Fucking adapt, learn.

Or don't adapt and fail.

Choice is yours.

>>1217991
If you're genetically autistic then yes please seppuku for your own sake.

If you're just socially awkward and you remember a time when you were sociable and playing games when you were 5 then just get a decent group of friends who can teach you the social tricks and loops of conversations through charm and suaveness.

>>1217998
>reading this thread
>tfw I actually am genetically autistic

>Even STEM ones
Judging by that statement I assume you're in the field, in which case I ask that you don't talk about it. I don't come in here telling you all how to "seal a deal" or whatever it is business people do.
STEM is merit based because its application is tangible and real.
Business is literally a human construct subject to the chaotic and illogical mind so you guys can get away with having no skills other than a shit eating grin and good chip shot.

So why the hell dont you go make a ton of fucking friends? people like you are so fucking prone to failure because as soon as something stands in your way you bitch then do nothing about it.

Go meet people, make friends.. jesus christ it isn't that hard, just have normal conversations with people

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>>1218006
I'm LITERALLY incapable of making friends. Like just genetically not able to.

>>1218020

Go out and do your best; I'm sure you have family who can help you meet new people.

>inb4 edgy 15 y/o who hates his family.

>>1218025
23 years old and I've never had a friend in my entire life. Family barely tolerates my existence.

>>1218029
Why don't you kill yourself and hope to be reborn as a normal person in your next life?

>>1217982
>>>/r9k/
No one gives a shit about how you look just as long as you have good hygiene and follow standard dress rules for the company you work at/are applying. Connections mean less than they ever have, and this is coming from someone from a wealthy family who went to school with a bunch of other wealthy and well connected people. Experience is the only thing that matters nowadays to the point where recent college grads are expected to have done at least one internship. The only thing right about your post is the social skills part because you need social skills to network.
>inb4 networking counts as having connections
Maybe so, but the only thing those connections will do is confirm that it would be pleasant to work with you and that you would be a team player. And besides, you had to work for those connections so it is as much a test of your competence and social skills (important if you ever want to succeed) as much of the application process.

> College degrees are worth JACK DIDDLY SHIT, even STEM ones.
Top kek. Does that make you feel you better about not going to college or going to a shit uni and graduating with a shit qualification?

>>1218029
>>1218020
Well then that's your fault and you don't deserve to succeed no matter how much you tell yourself that you do. If you can't even bring yourself to socialise how can you ever expect to push yourself to the limit, work hard, and succeed?

>>1218029

kill yourself

>makes up excuses for why he's a failure


k op

>>1218029
iktf

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Cry about you it you little bitch.

Sorry you didn't get the job, sperglord.

>this meme
Having a better piece if paper and doing internships isnt some redpill level of networking, fuck off

How do I network /biz/? I always have banter with profs and TAs but I don't see how this is going to help me get a job/internship in the future. Who should I make friends with?

>>1218152

>How do I network
>Who should I make friends with?

If you actually have to ask this question you're way beyond helping. Apply for autismbux and buy shitcoins.

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>>1217982
Sorry OP. Theres no hope for you. Just better for you to embrace NEEThood

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>>1217982
>Meanwhile, in bizaroo world where you also refuse to adapt due to the sheer amount of bitch you are
It literally does not matter how good you are at people unless you have god-like technical skills or are smart. You can be the absolute best communicator in the industry but it won't matter. People only get hired through technical evaluations these days. That's literally the ONLY WAY. Experience means nothing. College degrees are worth JACK DIDDLY SHIT, even soft ones. Unless you have like a million of notebooks that you can constantly look up with info, it's impossible to work in any industry above retail. If you manage to somehow pull this off, you still need to be smart or else all of your coworkers will spread rumors about you behind your back and you'll miss out on promotions because they won't invite you out for side projects after work.

>>1217982
Woah slow down r9k, it's not hard to make friends that are similar to you in your fields. I guess it can be hard if you are an introvert and social interaction drains you/ you find it daunting, but there are many others like that who are also succesful. Effort is key. I'm an attractive guy that makes friends very easily, but on paper I look like shit so it's hard for me to get my foot in the door. Play up your strengths bro

>>1217982
Steven hawking isnt attractive... Neither is bull nye.. Trump isnt on any 50 hottest lists... Hulk hogan isnt a pretty man... OP aint that great looking either... Difference is OP let his looks run his life... Worked out real well

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>>1218294
Pretty much this too.
Pic related, motherfucker earning millions owning retail chians

>>1218275
>>1218275
That is some of the most whiny nonsense ive ever read.... That is someone who has truly just given up..

>>1217982
Wrong, you need competency AND people skills to succeed.

Bullshitters get found out and don't last long.

>>1218051
Your post is irrelevant, please leave

Yes because Elon Musk is do damn attractive and social. He's an autistic faggot that has his trophy wife write his speeches. But he will remembered for centuries.

Go back to >>>/r9k/ fag

>>1218301
>whiny nonsense

Sure buddy. Bet you didnt even bother to read it further after the first paragraph.

Enjoy your risk free easy mode life.

>>1217982
There is some truth in what you say. Social skills have equal worth to tech ability.

Become self employed, Anon. Create your own web service of some kind. It's hard as shit though.

The better option is still to become social though, because it's useful in other areas of life too such as not dying alone and friendless like I probably will.

>>1218398
>not wanting to die alone

>>1218446
but I want to be loved Anon

we all die alone, in the end

>>1218381
r9k plz go

>>1217982
>People only get hired through connections these days. That's literally the ONLY WAY. Experience means nothing. College degrees are worth JACK DIDDLY SHIT, even STEM ones

Yawn. I got my first job at a multinational IT company with no connections. Just ace'd the assessment centre. You are probably just shit

>>1218301
>just tossing a label of "whiny nonsense" out is a good response to a 5000 word argument

>>1217982
I got an internship at JP with decent social skills and 0 connections, it's not that much but foot in the door.

>>1217996
>become tall
>become attractive
idiot.

>>1218004
>STEM is merit based because its application is tangible and real.
Do we work in the same STEM? Lies and bullshitting are prized above all else even in STEM.

>>1217982
Or you could get a vocational degree, like a M.D., D.D.S., or Pharm.D. where the demand is higher than supply

It all comes down to numbers. The more interviews you get the better the odds assuming you don't make consistent fatal errors.

>failed at least 50 interviews since my 2nd year of college
>4 years out of school with only shit jobs, getting beyond desperate
>figure this will be my last interview before I chose something crazy like trucking school
>3 women 1 guy panel interview
>give it my best
>0 technical questions
>throw in a lame stripper joke, RIP
>they start dying
>go home thinking I threw another interview and start drinking
>get a call after the 1st beer, got the job
>find out I work with a bunch of perverts

It will be 5 months tomorrow.

>>1218294
Looks come down to appearing to be socially acceptable during the interview

No
>long hair as a guy(big mistake for me in the past)
>facial hair unless it is exceptionally well kept
>any piercings if a guy. Only single earrings for girls
>visible tattoos

Yes
>well fitting internet interview tips site approved outfits
>if a technical role a relevant nerdy tie
>Folder with extra resumes, a pen, and paper to take notes

>>1218305
this

>>1218991
Hahhaah what field do you work in; if you don't mind me asking anon? Also what was the context and joke?

>>1218003
>on 4chan

>Bu-bu-bu-muhSTEM

STEM isn't a magic fucking bullet. If you go to a shit school, you fucked up. If you didn't go networking at career fairs, you fucked up. If you didn't do research or internships, you fucked up. If you weren't working on projects on your own time, you fucked up.

You should have been doing all of those things while you were in college instead of playing vidya, fapping to your waifu, and shitposting. A degree shows that, at least to some extent, you know your shit. Experience is how you show people that you know how to use it worth a damn.

>>1219079
Specialty metals.

I was a cook at a job that had us run food out. We were not allowed to accept tips. I allowed some regulars to tip me stripper style in the back pocket.

>>1219097
All things being equal jobs will take STEM majors over art/history/English majors for any job that deals with numbers.

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>>1218564
>has lived life on easy mode ever since he was born
>parents didn't abuse him when he was a child
>parents gave him gave him the space to develop as an independent individual rather than force their ambitions on him
>was never bullied in school
>this greatly boosted confidence to make friends and socialize
>got invited to parties
>even studying was easy for him because he had a strong social support group he could always fall back to and ask for help
>went to college
>easily aced it
>met his 5th girlfiend there
>probably is living with the 6th one right now
>surfs 4chan /biz/
>sees this post
>cognitive dissonance immediately kicks in and he proceeds to type out a one line sentence with the usual just world explanations of how all this is just “whiny nonsense from a loser who has no friends and probably deserves his current predicament”

>>1217982
>It literally does not matter how good you are at something unless you have god-like social skills or are attractive.

No.

You are just not that good at anything.

>>1219572
>"It is everybody else's fault! i can't take responsabilities from my own actions!"

You sound like a woman
A fat woman to be more specific

You're no better than a feminist or a limpwristed left winged faggot

>>1217991
>>1217982
You sounds a bit bitter friend.
Being angry doesn't help your search for a job it hinders it. And it sure as hell won't help you keep one. Let it go.

>>1219584
Interesting strawman cognitive dissonance response I hadn't thought of. Hope you don't me adding this my book "Shit normies say", TBA 2016

be your own boss.

>>1219584
Must be nice to play on easy mode.

Unlike the feminists, I don't begrudge you it. But calling others shit because they didn't get easy mode is idiotic.

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>>1219572
>>1219602
>>1219637

Nah senpai, i'm just pointing out how you sound

Also:
>grew up in third world country
>bullied as a kid because i was fat
>grew up without my father
>mom died in my teens from cancer
>develop clinical depression which i have to deal with until this day
>have had multiple suicide attempts
>fail several courses in school consistently, bad grades overall
>have had friends and family, killed or kidnapped since i was young because #ThirdWorldShithole
>My sister had to go through the same problems plus being a woman in a shitty country like mine

Unlike you, i don't whine about it
>Buckle up, get /fit/, lose 70 lbs
>get myself in dutch, french and english classes on saturdays
>regain contact with my father, learn a lot about construction since thats what he has worked all his life, value his knowledge and apply it to myself, even though i have always loved design and the fine arts
>on my way to get an architecture degree, freelancing as an architect, develop good social skills because i have to
>constantly have sex with lots of women and have had several gf's since i got fit
>own two business i started from scratch and jackshit before i got my degree
>have my own car and i will hopefully buy my first house in a couple of years down the road
>All of this at 21
>most time i've spent as a NEET piece of shit was a month and it was absolute hell, and even then i wasn't a NEET, i was working half time in construction
>Sister has a business degree and works as a corporate at a big transnational company pulling in the equivalent of 80k a year and is on her way to get her MBA at 25, all of this while being a woman in a third world country mind you

Guess how buddy? by NOT BEING A WHINY LOSER

Stop blaming people for your own actions anon, i don't know how bad your life was, but i can assure you that it is not that bad if you have the time and resources to be shitposting on 4chan on a thursday morning (assuming you are in America)

Man up Anon, please.

>>1219687
Balls of steel man.
Can you post your sisters tits for us fat american worthless NEETs to admire?

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>>1219687
>normie
>battled clinical depression

Thanks for the good laugh

>has a Sister

THERES your anchor in your life. You always have your sister to support you when the going gets tough and vice versa. A strong motivator indeed.

Look pal, I don't envy you. But bragging about your whole life story just makes you look insecure desu senpai

>>1219712
Lmao this guy is really reaching at this point , you got your ass handed to you anon , face it , you are whats wrong with the world , the world does not owes you a thing.

>>1219687
What country are you from anon?

>>1217982
How autistic are you that you are just figuring out this now?

>>1218675
You can still be Trashman-kind of cool.

All of you fuckers get it wrong.

You are not supposed to get a job.

You are supposed to accumulate useful skills that people are willing to pay for. Then, by the law of the universe, jobs will be easy for you. At that point you can even work for yourself/ file a biz.

Now what are you good in? Fixing PCs, being a plumber, baking cakes, filing tax reports, leading people? Go do that long enough and eventually they will not be able to ignore you.

However, if you're only good at dicking around and being useless...

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>>1218312
Stay delusional.

this thread. my and my wifes daughter like to go into liquor stores and make fun of people that buy beer and liquor. We get a kick out of it then go fuck in the backseat of my wifes car. Loling at normies.

What would be your plan in a post apocalyptic world; the dollar becomes useless?

>>1219798
sell ass.

/r9k/

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>>1219715
>the world does not owes you a thing.

>>1219754
Spot on.

>waah, nobody will give me a job, the world owes me a living

It's learned helplessness that only exists in the first world.

If you had no choice then you would be mowing lawns, cleaning toilets, washing cars, doing whatever it takes to feed yourself.

You're a lazy fuck and that's why you don't have a job.

>>1219874
Not a native english speaker, sorry famalamadingdong

>>1219687
Ahahaa man you sound like a complete fucking loser

This post radiates insecurity

>>1218305

not if you're a woman. Can get away with anything

>>1218675
>>become tall
Unless you're like 5'1 it's not going to negatively effect you if you aren't tall. No one gives a shit.

>>become attractive
Get a good haircut, workout, eat well, dress nicely, have facial hair that suits you. and now you're at least 7-8/10

lookism

>tfw have job at big4 accountign firm
>surrounded by normies
>everyone is good looking
>everyone is social (i am autistic and have no friends)
>90% of my coworkers are actually braindead
>but get higher salaries than me because they are likeable and good looking
i want off this ride ;_;

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>luck out and fall into an IT job with room to grow
>over time everyone with a vagina starts hating me because 1. I'm not a super social guy and am a little awkward and 2. I'm a virgin who is a 4/10 at tops
>tfw the whores band together and get me fired
>tfw no place in this world for people like me
>tfw cheering on mass shooters who have enough and lash out at this shit world

>>1217982
> face like a pig, wide enough not to be able to find glasses
> freaky left eye broken since childhood trauma
> weird body proportions
> 6' height, 160lb, shoulders broad enough not to fit through doors
> voice like a 13 years old boy you play COD with
> character described by family as "the most rotten and shameless"
Here I fucking am. I earn 95k+ bonuses. I am fucking 24 bro. I do not give a shit about being nice. I seldomly go to work parties, if I do it is just to get fucked real quick and go back home.
And you know why the fuck do they employ me? Because I am an asset to the company. Even thought I slack off for 4 hours a day building my own shit I still am the most performant dev in my so callead "team".

Fuck this edgy bullshit. Just get good or go be a NEET.

>>1218954
That is actually a myth for the most part. Supply has outstripped demand for some time now.

>>1218954
>medical doctor

this meme again
6 years of schooling, 2 years of slavery and hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt

>>1219687
its easy to get a job in a third world country, what s hard is to get an attractive remuneraiton for it. Yeah you managed that well, but you seem jump on this occasion to brag while faliing prey to the just world fallacy. How about you show a bit more compassion hmm ?

>>1221777
>what is unconscious perception ?
being tall does have an effect however, they tend to win more money than the average joe, probably because of some instinctive fear of the strong; and being attractive is not only a fastrack to become socially savvy, but what s more is that the halo effect infleunces people to assume taht beautiful people are, ceteris paribus, more intelligent, more efficient, kinder. etc.

>>1217991
Work a door to door job for a year or so.

>>1225169
This. The skills you learn will carry on to so many different parts of your life.