Next recession

No-one really knows when it'll hit. Honestly, though, I think that a slow grind is in the future of all economies as massive societal and tech changes are absorbed going forward.

The main thing is to have a planned response if the markets drop.

>>1171753
hold cash, PMs, crypto, and buy into the market when it has found a stable bottom

>>1171753
>who's causing it?
well the short answer is the market correcting the fed
you can't rape it long term
>how can we profit off this?
in deflation cash is king
>when do you thing it will hit?
in 2 years, at first some asset prices shoot to the sky then more money printing some inflation then deflation eventually asset prices come down and then you can buy.

question is it will be a big bang or just a long whimper and hyperinflation?

or maybe i'm oversimplifying it. one thing is for sure the rich will get richer and we all get fucked.

I heard it's some companys fault this time and many say it will happen soon after the election, or at the begining of 2017.

USA has a recession about every 6 years and we're overdue already, it's bound to happen, the real question is, how do we find out when and why and do something like in the big short movie...

>>1172046
lol this recession is like the ice age.
it's not coming, we are in it right fucking now.

so global warming and fed intervention both just masking the larger effects fool you into something that is not true. 2008 is still going strong.

>>1172076
please elaborate

>>1172084
we never got out of the 2008 crisis
they stopped deflation artificially by printing fucktons of dollars out of nowhere
but it's coming with a vengeance at first sign of trouble in paradise

>>1172165
>>1172076
I think major global economies are going to converge and offset a major disaster (or should I say distribute the disaster, watering it down).

>faster communication (already here)
>faster global transportation (soon)
>world gets smaller, everything is "local", including economies/social policies

>>1172173
thing is if the bigger economic powers can let the dollar get fucked and survive they will with delight.

>>1172173
Globalization is a race to bottom, why TPTB globalists are building the melting pot now, divide and conquer, neutralize nationalism.

Negative interest rates in some countries and 1% payouts on 10 year bonds...they know world is running down for good now and economic shocks incoming.

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>>1172173
savor this pic a bit.
the dollar is so fucked so out of proportion in quantity to the size of the us economy it's not even funny.

>>1172244
Calm down dracula. I'm not debating that the the US is in way over their heads (they have been for a long time).

>>1172206
welcome to every economic system since before ancient rome

>>1172217
what's your point though? How many recessions have you lived through? I've been through two in my lifetime and both of those experiences didn't affect me or my family in anyway (my family was lower-middle class by the way in a western state in the US). In fact, I've only continued to make more money and accumulate more wealth throughout my lifetime. I'm not saying that's not subject to change, but what is your actual point in regards to crying that the sky is falling? Do you recommend we acquire gold and guns and devolve into hillbillies? Or are you just looking for acknowledgement that we're living in fear of the incoming "economic shocks"?

my guess is yuan crashing within 2 years... pretty fucking sure about this

why y'all niggas got names

so.. what's a young man to do in this world now?

I mean, is there any point investing since it's all gonna crash? Should I hold cash? Buy gold?

Shit should I even start a family?

It's so obvious the whole thing is a house of cards, fucking finance guys politicians and their greed.

>>1171753

Hopefully it robs the boomers, deflates their retirement funds, breaks open their nest eggs, etc through devaluation of the currency.

>>1172759
if you think that will cause no problems to us all you are fucking retarded tho.

>>1172759
I sincerely hope this too. Boomers literally had a beautiful fruit garden given to them, then chopped down the trees for firewood and sat around smoking weed. Now there are no good fruit picking jobs, and all the cleaning positions were outsourced.

>>1172759
I just hope they panic and sell me their stock at a 50% discount like they did back in 2008.

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>>1172759
>recession robs boomers retirement accounts
>they have to sell their homes underwater to retire

>mfw I buy up all the undervalued stocks and real estate

>>1173163
>I just hope they panic and sell me their stock at a 50% discount like they did back in 2008.
Oh shit. Dude, I picked Ford up at $1.42 per share in March of 2009. I knew they were oversold simply because Ford wasn't in dire straits like GM and Chrysler. It was literally tanked by everyone selling off all automobile-related shares. I went 80% in on my portfolio. A year later: $13 per share.

Greatest common-sense investment I ever made.

>>1171837
>PMs
Prime Ministers?

What the fuck is PMs?

>>1173175
I'm pretty sure he's using it as an acronym for Precious Metals.

>>1172266
I'm an old fag and all I know is life in the west, standard of living has been falling since I was shit out of the womb, I've seen the 80's, 90's and 2k's as an adult.
I guess I'm in ok shape to survive in NA and ain't no prepper, just looking at how to cash in on it all I suppose. Maybe buy up tangibles at fire sale prices? Be able to relocate for work? My country Cancuckistan has 5 trillion in personal debt, maybe the chinks will float our entire economy for another few years?
Maybe invest in funeral homes, crises centers, and debt amalgamation - payday loan corps?

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>>1171753
Fucking when guys?

What indicators to follow at least?

So real estate purchase right now is a no-no?

What if dip comes after only 10 years or so?

>>1173178
>>1173181
http://www.gurufocus.com/shiller-PE.php
The Shiller Index for both the stock market and housing is probably the best way of getting an idea of where the trends are going as they happen. When it falls below the 20 year mean(I use 20 years instead of 100 because our decoupled monetary system now allows unnaturally low interest rates for traditional interest-bearing accounts, leading to higher valuations for equities and housing), that's when you know that blood is in the water.

Basically, you want to dollar-cost average while it's going up, but then sell-off when you start noticing the signs of a grossly overvalued stock market. Then, when the shiller index has fallen greatly to below the mean, you buy buy buy.

That's my method anyway. I'm just an amateur but it's steered me clear of the Great Recession and allowed me to go all in near the bottom. Read the article, it'll give you an overview of the basic idea behind the index.

>>1173200
I realized that I didn't clarify what I meant by "blood in the water". What I mean is that that's when you start looking for entry-points back into the market. Once it falls below that historic mean, you pretty much know it's begun overcorrecting.

>>1172683
Why? China has spent the last 20 years building industrial capital. People in the 80s thought we would be living in a post-industrial society a la Star Trek by the turn of the century. It hasn't happened, and there is no reason to believe it will.

>>1172702
80% stocks, 20% bonds

Of the stocks, 70% domestic, 30% foreign.

This yields the highest point on the risk/reward curve. Game theory dictates that a rational investor does this, and a winning strategy should be taken. Anything else is based on speculation with insufficient evidence to back it up.

Check em

>>1173218
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0i09Bp0sEis

>>1173218
Which stock indices and bond indices have you bought?

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>>1173200
so according to the shiller graph it will be happening very shortly?

>>1172702
>>1173218
I'm holding off any investment in stocks for now but this looks like a well rounded strat
>inb4 timing the market
look where we're at right now

>>1173200
Do you have a membership to gurufocus? If so is it worth it?

>>1173213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t487ILVf87k

>>1173168
wait, how should that work, how do you know the price starts growing again?
not an expert, but if i look at detroit... that's still poor as fuck

>>1174160
check out the big brain on brad

I'm convinced personalfinance subreddit is lightyears beyond what /biz/ could ever be