How would an economy like in star treks work? It seems to be

>>1171471
The machines can provide anything you want for free, so society would be very different than it is today where things are valuable because they are rare (intentional or not, see diamonds)

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>>1171471
The truth is no one knows, since no one has come up with such an economy now. http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/11/18/star_trek_economy_federation_is_only_mostly_post_scarcity.html

>>1171490
The problem is even with no human labour commodities are plentiful but not infinite. So how do you determine who gets what and how much are they allowed to have?

>>1171491
They use their social reputation as currency. Do nice things for people, i.e. give them free stuff -> people do nice things for you. Be an asshole and take too much -> people don't be as nice to you.

>>1171493
A post scarcity society would only come about when we get to the level of industry where we can manipulate atoms and create textiles and materials practically for free. I'm sure we'll move away from plastic to something better eventually.

>>1171471
Marxism.

what is the magical energy to matter device?
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but the red pill on star trek is they genocided the population (post khan gentic wars) down to 50,000,000 so everyone lived in abondence.
Ever notice how San Francisco Star fleet headquarters is so empty? When they go to picards wine/grape farm you see like 3 people in all of france?

The largest problem of a real-world post-scarcity economy would be the total absence of motive to work. In the end, nobody would have a financial motive to do things to improve the world, so the only motivating factors are things like fame, power, piety, charity, perversity.

Imagine post scarcity utopia hits in the year 2100. Robot Amazon Prime delivers the needs of earth's society from mars and robots harvest minerals from the universe to satisfy our needs.

A large part of the population would probably go NEET. Everybody might sit at home playing Rape Simulator 2095, the last MMO ever created, for a hundred years, because nobody ever bothers to learn code again. Until a religious charity knowledge cult decides to learn the ancient techniques to craft Paradise 1.0, where people share relatively virtuous ideas, and then a member of their group goes rogue and hacks both Rape Simulator and Paradise into a vanity Arnold Slavery Simulator or whatever

>>1172200
is this the plot for an actual episode?

>>1171471
Chicken tendie and mountain dew replicators so you never have to leave mom's quarter's basement on the spaceship. Holodeck waifus. Memeatic hive mind is real life.

if you'd watch all the shows you'd see that the post scarcity utopia is just the federation narrative

life is good for core federation worlds and thats about it

>>1172200
People would still work, just on things they enjoy doing.

Just like how theres artists, musicians, and game programmers who release their stuff for free.

Crime would initially skyrocked because all those stupid people who aren't creative would get bored and do stupid shit for fun.

>>1172194
>down to 50,000,000
Directly contradicted by First Contact dialogue.

Communism.

/thread.

>>1171471
>post scarcity
lol

>>1171471
The various shows stated or implied people worked more for enjoyment than payment. There were still unsolved problems-- like various diseases, and how to make planets and solar systems livable on stellar timescales, and dealing with outside threats, and building more efficient or effective versions of things that already existed, and creating new things, and finding out what all is even out there in the universe and what happened in our past and before we were around. One of the problems, which also kind of hurts what they were going for, was that some things were too complex or too delicate to replicate. Also the whole universe wasn't like the Federation, nor the whole galaxy, not even just the section with the Federation in it, so there was trade with other societies to consider, and some people lived on the fringes of the Federation or other interstellar societies and didn't get the full "post-scarcity" thing going on.
All things considered I think it's a pretty realistic depiction of what it would be like-- much better than now, but with some rough edges.
As for economy specifically... as long as there are things of value, people will want those things, but I think it would some ways be unlike any economy as we know it.

money is ultimately the belief that the money has value, which originates from things like the solidarity and strength of the state or culture, or the prospect of significant gain, so the money is simply a way of describing what people believe

you can't expand on what a post-scarcity economy would be like, because it would be exactly like our own. you can only answer what a post-scarcity culture would be like, and that's a spiritual question, a question of what people truly desire

one commodity that can never be infinite, is love and attention