Ethereum finished

Do it, I have some cash waiting to clear wouldn't mind a cheaper buy in. Only suckers who bought as a gamble and didn't research would sell at this point.

It was supposed to double every week. What a waste of time. Fuck you /biz/ last time I listen to advice from this board

Bump for interest

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>>1147163
OP is clueless.

This is like selling bitcoin at $10

OP is just jelly because he never bought ETH and missed all the dips.

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>>1147163
> being this mad about a 5% drop

>>1147163
Short this bullshit coin.

>>1147180
Nope.
This is just another pump&dump coin. You can already see the dump.

>>1147220
All alts are pump and dumps to get more BTC. You think anyone really cares about Ethereum or Syscoin? No, they're putting money into it so they can cash out later into Bitcoins or USD.

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ETH is in free fall. Get out while you can.

GET OUT GET OUT GET OUTTTT

just kidding. if you're a pussy, stop checking the price every day and keep your mind off of ethereum for a year

ETH is fucking crashing. get the hell out of this pumpdump memecoin.

Its don't

>there are actual people who fell for this memecoin

>>1147456
And made some decent money from it. Now it's over, time to cash your chips and call it a day.

>>1147472
This. This pump&dump memecoin is dying and everyone knows that.

>being this easily shilled in to selling your sweet ethereum.


Buy the dip fags

what utterly blows my fucking mind, is how every time i made a trade, the market immediately changed direction to fuck me in the ass. literally every fucking single time. that's how i know that if i sold now in an attemp to minimize losses, murphys law would knock on my door YET AGAIN THE FUCKING COCKSUCKER and eth would start rapidly rising again.

it's even more proof that the universe conspires against me, because clearly I've gotten away with some heavy shit in my life, and now it's payback time.

So I'm just gonna hold. fuck you universe.

>>1147489
the universe is vast and uncaring. The only constant in your life is your own faggotry.

>>1147489
>spiral of negativity enforces his own negative experiences within his subjective consciousness
You are not the center of the universe.

>>1147489

If you're gonna buy a crypto in the hope of making money it'd idiotic to sell at a loss. You need to part with that money being totally happy to lose all of it.

If not, psychology will fuck you over.

>>1147498
Meh i bought ETH at some stupidly low price. I'm going to let it run for a year or two.

Pretty sure it will be worth about $50/eth

>>1147489
Learn the lesson from it.

So long as you learnt how to be a better trader, it was worthwhile.

I initially bought in a lot at 0.009 before the first peak.

Then it went down and down and down, and i panic sold at 0.008.

As soon as i sold, it turned around, and never has been that low again.

I was stubborn, and waited for it to drop, but it didnt. Ended up buying back in at 0.022.

Ended up making $40,000 instead of $100,000.

Fucking sucks, but i'm now a much better trader.

It's gonna be funny looking back on this thread after the bounce.

>>1147503
So basically you're saying you put $60000 into etherm at .022? Really who has 60 grand to just throw around on high risk gambles?

It's statements like yours that seem really incredible to me, and make me not believe anything I read here.

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>>1147514
Correct.

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Time to buy the dip, guys. We have been preparing for this.

The ethmobile is gaining speed.

>>1147523
That's a pretty impressive amount of BTC there, I'll admit. Doesn't prove you ever put anything into etherm though.

>>1147537
You wouldn't have it in ETH if you didn't want to lose money at this point. The best way to get $60k on an exchange is to grow it.

>>1147523
>no SYS

Do you hate making money or something?

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>>1147163
ETH just got REKT

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>>1147571
You ready for another drop? It's coming

>>1147325
thats a great way to miss out on more eth

>>1147584
It's also a great way to lose a lot of money. Do not panic buy. You are not a trader. I'll give you another chart in a few minutes.

>>1147580
Great, the dip as predicted. Gonna buy that shit hard.

>>1147587
Implying you are

>>1147591
No, but I'm not going to FOMO into something during a race to the bottom. Keep holding onto those bags.

>>1147592
>not understanding fundamentals.

You're all utterly fucking retarded.

This is Bitcoin 2.0, the same little faggots unable to see past their noses thinking its all over because it dropped a little. Look at Bitcoin's graphs, we're over the first little bump and are going down a bit, its exactly the same fucking thing.

Stop chart chasing and trying to scrape a few ETH from selling high and buying low. Just buy and fucking hold, forget about it, then be happy in 1 year when you're loaded.

>>1147595
>being a salty bagholder

I opened a short on ETH at 327 get fucked.

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>>1147600

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Left is the entire Bitcoin chart, right it zoomed in on the first little peak.

Looks awfully familiar doesn't it?

>>1147613
I'm holding ETH long term and gambling with the other altshits. ETH is the most solid alt at this moment and it has long term prospectives.

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Time for another drop.

>>1147620
How low you think? I'm trying to buy more at $10.

alright I'm buying eth. my first crypto. What's the easiest/quickest way for me to get my money in and buy?

>>1147622
Well have to see as it keeps testing lows.

>>1147624
Kraken.com is the way

>>1147627
thx m8

>>1147624
>buying ETH after the pump&dump
So youre basically buying worthless shit right there.

>>1147630
>worthless shit

>What is a dip
>What is intrinsic value
>What are fundamentals

Debil detected

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Check this out.

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>>1147651
Are you ready for a new low?

>and then I told them ETH was going to the moon

>>1147638
It's not a dip you fucking jelly bagholder

>>1147496
Poetic

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BIG dump incoming.

Sold at 10.05 (euro) when did you sell guys?

No point to ride the wave might as well jump in later again if its just a dip. If ETH is kill so be it.

If i don't touch ETH i made 150euro for a month of mining with a video card. So ye 150 euro profit not much but happy.

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>>1147694
Just look at that volume.

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God damn I used my ETH for lending on Poloniex now I can't sell. A lesson for me.

>>1147705
Don't worry, I'll let you know when I cover my puts.

>>1147638

>intrinsic value
>fundamentals

Do you actually believe this shit? There is no intrinsic value, there are no fundamentals. ETH isn't a currency, people aren't using it to buy shit. At least people wanted to buy drugs with BTC. It's a ponzi scheme, a bubble, tulip bulbs for the 21st century. The only reason anybody has ETH is because they want to speculate on it.

>ITT: People that don't know about the weekly dip, weekend pump
seriously go back and look at the pumps and dips by the day and then look at the 7 day calendar.
Whales are going to gobble this up and take this to $20 by Monday.

>>1147717
Go watch the charts. If it goes south of 25 it's going further. Otherwise we'll probably see a pump.

Biz full of day traders and no investors no wonder everyone is always losing money on here. Can't tell the value of an asset just try to follow hype. I'm holding long

>>1147723
>being an ethercuck bagholder

LMAO

>>1147728
>What are fundamentals
>What are dips
>What is blockchain technology

Literal derp.

>>1147738
I got cucked once with litecoin back in 2013. Bought at like $10, watched it go up to $13 and then it crashed to the sorry state it's at today.

I'm not going to baghold my ethercuck. I'm selling, I've learned my mistakes, maybe ETH will be to you what LTC was to me

>>1147523
>DOGE
>DASH
>FCT

So what meme'ing is profitable these days?... I should've never stopped being an internet wanker in 2012...

>>1147741
Of course you got cucked, litecoin is literal btc clone, so it is useless. ETH has innovations.

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>>1147744
>ETH has innovations.

>>1147622
>>1147625
I ended up getting $200 worth at $11, I deposited $200 prior to that and am willing to buy at the current $10.xx but the confirmation is taking forever. I think I'm gonna miss it, I should have been more patient to begin with and more prepared.

>>1147745
Yes, it has. Or you have counterarguments maybe? Would like to hear them.

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>>1147748
i'll never convince an ethercuck bagholder

good day

>>1147746
Looks like it might have hit bottom and is bouncing now.

>>1147741

I believe in the applications and as more are released eth will be considered a more and more legit currency/commodity

Hit the bottom, get it while you can.

>>1147741
but litecoin was just a coin. You're going to see more and more dapps getting press coverage which will push the price higher.

Is anyone here actually believing that it might become a second currency like bitcoin.

I mean... for real... with analyses and shit. I mean I'm gonna hop on the P&D (tomorrow) but is anyone actually planning to hold on to these memecoins

>>1147751
I'm pretty comfortable either way right now, I have 53 ETH in from $10 earlier now up to 70 with the $11. wouldn't mind more at $10 though.

Thanks for keeping us updated Anon.

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>>1147751

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/bitcoin-industry-venture-capitalists-shift-focus-to-non-financial-applications-and-ethereum-startups-cm593925

Wall street just woke up

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>>1147757

Where can I keep updated on the latest pump and dump schedules?

>>1147761
Here, the home of the pump and dump!

guys tempted to sell my 350 ether i got back at $0.80. HODL OR SELL?

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>>1147751
Still testing the bottom....

>>1147785
I hope it crashes so hard back to 5 dollars so I can buy in tomorrow

For once I want in on the /biz/schemes. The memories of that dude telling me to buy bitcoin when it was 50 dollar still haunts me.

>>1147794
Yeah, we'll have to see what this market maker on polo does. They're putting a lot of volume into it to keep it up.

>>1147771

Hold it, that's a nice amount of ether to panic sell at a dip for...

ETH DIP IN PROCESS FAGS.

THIS IS YOUR CHANCE!

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>>1147810
Looks like it's getting sold into. Going down most likely.

>>1147810
Just let it burn man, sell can be the only good advice now.

Buy back tomorrow:^)

>>1147814
So sell everything and buy back (Implying there's still a dip?)

>>1147814
>selling the dip

You are supposed to buy the dip, tard.

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>>1147814

Damn don't remember my wallet address so I can't shapeshift any more eth from work. Gotta wait for tonight shiiiit

>>1147810
Nah this isnt a normal dip. The trend has reversed downward. The peaks keep getting lower and lower. I told you faggots that "china getting in" was bad. They always fuck with the market and now people are losing confidence. I'm going to wait until the overall trend reverses again because this looks like its headed back to $5.

>>1147829
I agree fuck gooks, dumb insects fuck up all inovation. Chart chasers and p&d are ruining everything. Ethereum is the only contract based system that is not a currency and can create any shitcoin on its network. Fuck all other except bitcoin.

>>1147829
Pretty much this. If you zoom out to the overall chart it's obvious.

Step back from the present ding dongs, stop thinking so short-term, you need patience. ETH has always behaved like this, zoom out and know this not a crash or an abandon ship moment. Hold your shit if not BUY the dip. If you sell you will miss out on the "moon" moment, you know, the Bitcoin going to $1.1K moment. It might not go that high but it will explode higher than ever before as it as consistently been doing for it's entire life. Don't get scared so easy, if you're in this for major dosh, you're in this for the long haul.

>>1147821
you're supposed to sell before a market crash and buy back at the lowest point.

...fucking children on this board. Learn2trade.

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>>1147811
One more good bounce and this bitch is going down. Get ready guys, no lube on this one.

>>1147829
>>1147841
>>1147842
samefag who has no fucking idea what he's saying

>>1147851
Cunt, you have no fucking idea. What is Ethereum ?

the sweet smell of ethercucks getting cucked in morning

>>1147829
Everyone waited for a dip.

>>1147846
>you're supposed to sell before a market crash and buy back at the lowest point.
>...fucking children on this board. Learn2trade.
Nobody can do that without a crystal ball.

But dips are pretty obvious.

>>1147855
Jokes on you, next your gonna tell me to buy syscoin right ?.
I'm a fucking /pol/ack your jew shit means nothing to me. Ethereum and bitcoin are all that matter.

>>1147844
If this thing is going moon it not going to happen for at least a year or so. You are basically telling me to miss out on a chance to double or triple my eth holdings by selling at the peak (which i did 2 days ago) and buying back in after it crashes. I dont even daytrde this but to ignore super obvious short term trends is not smart.

>>1147856
>implying /biz/ doesn't own crystal balls
>>1145470

>>1147859
Oops wrong comment.

>>1146900

>>1147858
I'm not disagreeing with that, If you want a some extra cash, then yeah, use the obvious short term trends to your advantage. I was talking about super moon moment, which is what I mean by "major dosh". I'll also agree that that moon moment isn't coming for a few months to year and a half.

>>1147851
Not even samefagging. Seriously look at the overall chart. The trend has reversed. I'm trying to help you to not do something pannicky by not waiting until this thing trends back up again before buying.

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gonna laugh at the bagholding ethercucks a week from now when it's back to $5

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>>1147865
>The trend has reversed

>>1147872
its called dip son

Fundamentals dictate ETH will keep going up. Does not matter when.

>>1147871
What is there to laugh about?
Dip buying is a thing.

>>1147872
You not seeing it test the previous support? It could go down further. This could just be a retrace back to 27 or 28.

>>1147872
Thank you.

>>1147872
This guy has a point. The last 2 peaks are considerably lower. The trend reversal is definitely there.

>>1147880
*lower than the previous one

>>1147873
>>1147874
>>1147876
>>1147880

What's not to say that this has happened before, and it will slowly trend back up over time, as its done every time previous. What makes this time any different? The only thing I can think of , is this most recent jump happened very fast, so it isn't very stable, contrary to the last two rises happened gradually.

>>1147871
When will it be $5 again?

>>1147885
Dont get me wrong. I do think eventually it will trend back over time. Its just right now the upward trend has reversed momentum. I am going to wait until people have stopped panic selling and we see it return back to the original upward trend because right now it could easily continue to go down and I dont want to miss an incredible buying opportunity.

told you fags. 3.5mil, LTC's ATH.

Ethercucks getting cucked in the ass

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>tfw waited to buy into ETH

I'm gonna buy in during this huge crash and then enjoy the profits when this soars in price later, kthxbai faggots

>>1147908
and this is how its done.

400k satoshi within 6 months? lower?

>>1147911
Kek

>>1147914
i'm serious man, look how fast it rocketed. i first bought for 200k iirc

Ok I put in 2.5 btc at 0.0258.
Did I buy the dip?

>>1147871
.025ish was the bottom

screenshot this

>>1147871

That's when I'll buy more

Hope all you fagots bought some. Headed up to $20 by EOW

>>1147982
>headed to $5
Fixed. The ridiculously high bubble priced are officially over.

>>1147982
We can only prey

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HNNNNG GIVE IT TO ME YOU FILTHY BITCH

>>1147991
*pray

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>and then I told them ETH is going 2 da moon

>>1147992
what website is this?

>>1147999
Cryptowatch

Poloniex ETHBTC 3 minute chart

Get sys, xcp, dgb

>>1147489
it was too easy. what were you thinking when shills served this "deal" to you on a silver platter? if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!

take it as a learning experience and cut your losses.

Everyone who bought this week is a cuck and now I'm going to be rich when BTC goes back up because I sold days ago. Fuck you guys. BTC is king. haahahahaa.

Ethercuck is my favourite cryptokek

>>1148547
This. Ethercuck is by far the best cryptokek.

should I really sell my eth?
I'm up a little over what I was when I started but fuck, just a week or two ago it seemed like btc was dying and eth was the future , and now it's reversed simply because of a downtrend?
we could start a new bull run any time, couldn't we?

>>1148582
If you're really such a cuck at least wait until Monday, shits gonna happen over the weekend, but if you wanna listen to clueless short-term minded faggots go ahead and sell now so I can buy more for cheap.

>>1148582
If it's getting to your nerves then maybe. I personally wouldn't let a little downtrend psyche me out of potential gains, at the same time I'm comfortable with losing 100% of my investment as I think everyone should be, going into it any other way is setting yourself up for stress and if you're under stress you're gonna make bad choices quickly and regret them later.

tl;dr you have to make your own decision :^)

>>1148595
> everyone should be comfortable with losing it all
Lel

>>1148610
If you invest more than you're willing to lose what do you do in the event you lose it all?

>>1148612
I can bear the loss but it doesn't mean I have to like it. if eth is going to shit I'd definitely like to have a bunch of btc instead

>>1148614
For sure, I'm not saying you have to like it just that like you said you have to be willing to accept the possibility, I would go as far as to say you should expect it or treat it like your money is already gone.

That's not to say don't be smart just don't panic, too many people panic because they can't cope with loss and ironically end up losing as a result, if they just remained calm they may end up with a gain or at least break even, I've been seeing too much of that with ETH lately, panic sellers everywhere.

Just to reiterate if you think it's a bad idea to hold then by all means pull out but don't pull out without thinking about it. I'm also speaking generally not just about crypto currencies.


tl;dr NO GUARANTEES EVER ON ANYTHING WEW LAD

>>1148621
investing is scary ;_;

I guess I'll just hang on. I don't think eth will just disappear right after getting added to a bunch of big exchanges.

>>1148627
I hope things turn out well for you Anon. Hone and trust your own judgment.

I almost don't feel anything.

I have like 20k EUR in these coins, BTC, ETH, now gambling with some alts and I don't feel any connection to them or anything. It's just numbers on screen.

I've seen your screenshots /biz/ most of you only have < 300 ETH. Don't panic sell over a 48 hour dip on a chump change investment you spergs.

>>1148685
i hear you man. if you want to get rid of them i'll provide my wallet address

>>1148685

Yeah i mean you can give me 3 or 4 numbers

highly appreaciated

>>1148685

Holy shit, gj mate. Spare any change for the broke nigga who wants his first ETH fix?

0xd435f602877c48f81bf6ffe78d7cd5814faf0584

what are the eth lending rates like on kraken and finex?

>>1148685
same here dude, some people just don't fear risk and I think that is an advantage.

I'm a retarded faggot, how do I buy eth?

>>1148936
You can suck it out of this hose, friend. No charge.

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>>1148941

I don't think we'll figure out the price for ETH until POS. Maybe it will be worth something, maybe I wasted the money I put into it.

While the faggots are crying I'll be buying. I can't wait to see how big this dip is, hopefully it'll go below $8.

>>1148443

dude the shills were right! if this hadn't been my very first experience of my life trading or handling cryptocurrencies, i'd have been smart enough to capitalize when ETH was at 15,50$. But being a total noob I figured if I sold now, I would walk out with profits proportional to my investment, and that's it.

I had no idea how this whole buy high - sell low cycle works and how you basically try to grow and level up your poloniex bucks like it was some kind of pokemon. I had the mindset of it being a one time opportunity.

Good learning experience though. I'm glad I'm getting into this game early (27 isn't early but it's earlier than 35).

>>1148443
>>1149040

the 'shills' were right is what I wanted to say. and I was there looking at the chart live as it rose and rose and listening to this on repeat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D-QD_HIfjA

>>1149040
Isn't proof of stake going to cause the price to drop a lot? I don't actually know the answer, I'm just going off something I read somewhere.

>>1147503

it no doubt made me a better trader. well it made me 'any' kind of trader, prior to this experience i was complete retard didn't know how any of this stuff works.

are you sure those number are accurate though anon? who has that kind of money sitting around to daytrade with.

>>1147523

jesus, alright. you better be an old fart or i'll get to feel like a big failure here.

So you guys are shorting or not? I don't think it will fall fast enough to short.

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FUCK YOU BITBAY
>wanted to do short on that piss of shit Etherum
>exchange btc 3 hours ago
>still no bitcoins that i bought with "fast trade"

I could earn a lot since it already went 20% and will more, but fuck it i am going for sleep. mark my words

SUICIDE THREADS INCOMING
I TRIED TO WARN YOU CLUELESS FAGGOTS

>>1147163
I want to buy ETH with my 20 btc.
I want to remain anonymous.

What can I do?

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Adios coiners

>>1149164
So I assume you are shorting on margin?

Who's pushing down on ETH at the moment? Just 10's of thousands of sell orders of 0.3 ETH incrementally lower and lower with a few panic sellers interspersed.

Feels like someones artificially driving it down getting it ready for another pump.

>>1149355
The only news i can find on it seem's to point to large mining contracts have just happened, because of the homestead release, and seems to keep driving the price down. I can't see a reason for it continuously dropping so i'll place my faith in it and hold

Im holding 235 that i need @ 0.0255 to break even at the moment. Im tempted to drop another 2-4 BTC in.

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IT'S A DIP YOU MEME

>>1149372
A dip? It's more like a fucking crater..

>>1147163
waiting to buy in when its under €1 or sooner.

So what happens when the US wakes up?

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>back to single digits

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>>1149387
Back to $7. You heard it here first folks

just look at the charts. if you have the slightest clue about technical analysis you can tell that it's going DOWN. and the fundamentals in ethereum aren't there either, it's all a speculative bubble

$6-7 is a nice target for short-term traders

That buy wall that just got rekt lol

>>1149427
I'm willing to bet 50% of the poloniex trollbox are also 4chan faggots. Also holy shit hang on tight.

They are. The meme-spouting shit on there copy-pasted from here

>>1149429
Most definitely, I see shit straight from /biz/ and /pol/ all the time.

>>1149400
Wait second.. Eth is going down? Are you sure?

>>1149429
if you are from 4chan, kindly try to stfu in that trollbox, the conversation used to be a lot more pro than it is now. almost everyone here is hopeless

>>1149435
it has gone down and will go down

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>>1149435
Well, if you flip the chart upside down, it's actually doing pretty well.

Do you think it's going to go up, down, sideways or in fucking circles?

>>1149438
Will you go down, if I give you a little

[spoiler] Eth [/spoiler] ?

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>>1149450
TO

THE

MOON

well I just sold 200 of my Ether ;__;

Still have more just in case it bounces back but at least I made an overall profit.

>>1149470
>Selling the dip

You were supposed to buy the dip dumb fuck.

>>1147844
>as it as consistently been doing for it's entire life
until it doesn't,
got in at 11€ - have another order @7...
we'll see, as always its just a little pocket money gamble for me as i am not NEET

>>1149484
What stage of grief are you in?
I say bargaining.

>>1149477

Yeah thats great advice until it goes lower than what I bought it for and then never recovers you silly boy.

>>1149486
no grief :)
put 200 euros into it, no pain here, a little gambling for fun.
on the other side, i need the stock market to hit it hard this year so i can start buying all those sweet etfs ...

This seems good to me, the changes are much more dramatic than they've been, instead of changing in tens of cents we're changing in dollars. Bigger disparity, quicker gains.

How long are we supposed to hold those ETH?

>>1149500
Well, at least it has market cap of Bitcoin I think.

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>>1149500
You hold your ETH.. till death.

Muahaha. MWAHAHAAAAA!

>>1147163
during the other big dips bitcoin has always gone up in price but even thats dropping, whats going on

ITS CRASHENING!

>>1149509
tsk tsk can't even cash out to BTC now without losing. Thanks for your donation. Play again.

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>>1149477
>there is always a dip

should i invest in ethereum now or wait for it to become useable?

>>1149514
never. it has dETH

As predicted, dip is happening after homestead release. I will be buying in at trend reversal (just need to check MACD).

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>>1149516
That's no dip..

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>>1149519
This is totally a DIP as you see the big rend candles, as soon as it shows reversal, I'm buying the fuck in.

If mETH reaches BTC marketcap, which is realistic, it will cost about 50$ per coin MINIMUM.

If it reaches 1/3rd of that, you would be stupid not to buy the obvious dip.

And why will it reach it?

Because fundamentals are solid.

>>1149520
it's more than just a dip, it's a complete trend reversal

reaching BTC marketcap is not realistic at all

the "fundamentals" are nothing but hype. shills have no clue about the technical details and what it could be used for. fintech companies are using their own block chain stuff, not ethereum.

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I went long at 0.033 and 0.028 and lost like $200, now longed at 0.0215 and it's going up

Yes its dying

And i sold it at 34 haha you fuckhole retards get used to sucking cock fur a living

>>1149524
I bet you're just the life of the party.

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>>1149522
>the strength in ethereum comes in decentralized nodes that can never be taken down
>let's increase our overhead by hosting our own nodes, mining our own blocks and simultaneously killing the one thing that makes it worth while
No, you're the one that doesn't understand anything. All that's happening now is day traders are getting cucked and China is buying in cheap as fuck. Stay quiet when it's back to .04btc champ.

>>1149520
Oh man look at the history, every previous point with candles that big it's shot up afterwards and the candles are bigger now than they were before. I'm excited to see what happens in the next few days.

>>1149532
This guy gets it. One of the biggest appeals to ETH is that your service will run with or without you, ideally you'd want it to run without you, let other people handle the load while you get all the credit and recognition.

Vitalik is smoking some of the mETH away. You better buy the dip or stay pleb forever.

>>1149534
>your service
literally what service? it might have some niche uses for smart contracts, but it's mostly useless.

lol welcome to babbys first pump and dump scheme, don't tell me you guys actually believed the story?

This shit has been going on for decades in the speculative stock game, they've just found a new sucker market, the clueless nerds with a little bit of cash who think they're warren buffet investors who are 'holding for the long term'

just think to yourself why are you holding eth, to sell at a later date for profit, that is the only reason and that is exactly what everyone else is doing.

I love that in every dip niggas can't stop yelling about how ether is finished until it hits an even higher value out of the dip. Then They're either not to be found or begging for a way to buy in.

Nigga, .01 is your chance. Buy now!

>>1149538
Yeah, exactly what they said during first pump of BTC from 1$ to 30$.

Guys who sold back then must be killing themselves now.

>just think to yourself why are you holding eth, to sell at a later date for profit, that is the only reason and that is exactly what everyone else is doing.

Actually, I'm holding it, so I can use it on the dApps as well.

You know, we prepared for the DIP for a reason.

>>1149547
I don't really know if that's what people said at all.. that ain't how I remember it. I'd like to see something backing that statement up.

>>1149551
Check bitcoin historic data and find reddit posts that line up with early dips.

>>1149555
Yeah, nope. How about you do it, since you're making the claim.

>>1149559
Check my ID dummy. I'm not him.

>>1149543
literally delusional

even if it makes it out of this """"""""dip"""""""" i'm sure as hell not interested in """"""""investing"""""""" in this shit or any other shitcoin for that matter

>>1149584
sure whatever, go make happy 1% returns on your S&P index fund ;)

>>1149551
All I remember from the bitcoin days was everyone screaming
>LOL FAKE MONEY SCAMBUX
>backed by NOTHING
>99999999 BTC for a slice of pizza
I thought it was a very interesting idea and there was a 50/50 chance of it taking off, I would have been comfortable putting my money into it and I regret not trusting myself then, listening to everyone else at that time feels like it was a mistake.

I do remember people posting threads on /g/ every time the price when down
>vaporware
>people actually lost money on this
>literally only good for buying drugs
>you're all going to jail
etc. every time there was any bad news at all around it.

I see potential in this technology and I'm not going to let myself get spooked by minor dips or speculations from people one way or another. I'm investing in the tech not the hype/detraction, banking on either of those feels like a big and hasty mistake.

That being said I'm not going to pretend like I don't listen in or play around with predictions, I just don't let them influence my market decisions heavily.

>>1149594
this was the key to bitcoins success though, it had an active and immediate market of people buying it to purchase drugs which could support any price increase because they were factored in to the drug purchases live.

The only people buying eth at the moment are people who want to sell it when it goes to the moooon!

>>1148627

You're not investing, you're gambling. Investing is when you hold onto an asset for a long period of time, years. If you want more excitement go to a casino.

>>1149591
index funds are shit if you have the time to put into researching individual stocks

but speculating in ethereum is even shittier

>>1149594
I think you should wait until a tech comes along that can't be manipulated and used as a pump and dump. What that would look like, I don't know, but when I see that, then I'll be willing to invest. Not until then.

>>1149619

The only research that would truly help for individual stock picking is insider knowledge. And that happens to be illegal. The math is proven that index funds work out in the long term.

Sure, you could have picked Visa 5 years ago and made a 300% return, or maybe you picked Mastercard and only made a 50%. But if you picked a 'credit card Index' you would have made a 100% or so return and have been fine, without the risk that you chose poorly.

>>1149627
ok retard

literally a monkey could beat the index with extremely high probability. and index funds have additional detrimental effects like fees and lending out your stocks to short sellers (and the interest goes straight into their pockets - not to you).

please keep that shit out of this thread

>>1149605
You're not wrong but I don't feel like ETH shouldn't be considered some kind of BTC replacement/competitor, it can be used like that for sure but it also has other applications and is more designed as a fuel for services.

Looking at other emerging technologies I am pretty excited, you could make a nice silk road replacement with IPFS+ETH that couldn't be shut down, you could really do that with any kind of idea, market, or service and you'd have some service that exists on its own fueled only by ETH and bandwidth. The potential to create services like this seems big since you don't have to rely on individuals or single points of failure, no matter what happens if you make a good service it will stick around, as long as it's around people will have to exchange ETH which in turn should be good for it as a whole.

There are certainly other things like this cropping up but this one shows the most promise, it seems very sound and thought out while also having an alright amount of interest for its intended purpose this early on.

What do you think about that, I'm a little tired so I could be talking nonsense.

>>1149621
You're also not wrong but that's the risk in this, you buy in before the popularity spike because it will be cheaper now than it will be while it's taking off. It's certainly a more sound investment if you're buying on the rise than before it, for me personally I am confident enough in it to dive in, maybe it will bite me in the ass.

>>1149663
>>1149605
>but I don't feel like ETH shouldn't be considered
but I don't feel like ETH should be considered*
Woops.

>>1149663
>a fuel for services
literally what services

you're always vaguely talking about "services". what are some ethereum-related services that i as a software developer can work on.

ethereum seems boring as shit seriously and limited in what it can be used for

>>1149671
A fuel for services that can probably just be implemented for free. I mean that's as far as I can tell, the situation.

>>1149671
Decentralized applications.

You could make a pirate bay alternative that literally can never be taken down. That alone would attract millions of people.

Decentralized trackers to go with the actual search site

Alternative to torrent peer to peer that charges gas as a cost of downloading run by content companies like record labels or movie studios that let's then get a cut of the unstoppable file sharing trend.

>>1149671
How do you feel it's limited? I can't recommend any kind of design decisions to you without a general idea of what you want to create or tell you how to get around limitations you feel it imposes if I don't know what you feel is limiting.

I'm not trying to be vague, I'm trying to be broad since you can make any service you wish, I don't feel like the future of this tech depends on any one particular service and there isn't a pre-established thing you have to conform to, you're at liberty to create whatever you can come up with using their language. As such I'm saying "services" not "*a particular named service*", sorry if I'm not being clear just ask me to clarify a bit and I'll try.

>>1149680
As >>1149532 said, doing so removes the whole appeal. If you're using your own machines and depend on those as well as the currencies they generate then you're removing the whole distributed aspect of it, as soon as your fail your service does too, the whole point is to not be reliant on your own network but on the entire public eth network. As a result this opens up opportunity for individuals to create reliable services despite not having big networks of their own, a service can succeed on merit alone without the original developer depending on creating and maintaining infrastructure alongside it.

>>1149680
The strength of ethereum is decentralization. What incentive do users have for running your application through their node for free? In theory it's possible but nobody would do it without incentive.

>>1149694
>as soon as your fail your service does too
you*
"fail" as in become unreachable or any other technical problem, once your network breaks down your service is no longer reliable, it was never reliable to begin with since it was never decentralized, even if you add in more clients it would never be as big as the public network, there's no incentive to do it yourself when you can leverage the platform.

>>1149695
The whole reason it's possible at all is simply for testing. You can test a service with your funny money before shipping it for real and using real ETH.

>>1149450
Nobody knows, least of all stock brokers.

Tootski?

>>1149707
>no major application has ever been taken down by ddos
>no app that upsets established industries with the support of foreign governments that shouldn't have local influence has ever been taken down
>nobody has ever gone to jail for running said applications
>no revolutions have recently been fought in countries where blocking access to a single point of entry was the government's last ditch effort


What is Napster
What is the pirate bay
What is blocking twitter during the Arab spring
What is China blocking use of facebook

Come on son. Think harder. All of these popular things can benefit from versions that can't be taken down or blocked at a single point.

ETH IS BACK AND BIGGER THAN EVER!

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>>1149754
Didn't Napster depend on an introducer server? While the transactions where p2p the service itself was not, much like soulseek today. Regardless they certainly had to distribute the software itself through a central system like a website.

The piratebay is anything but decentralized, I think it's partially distributed but still relies on a single entry point which nullifies the whole thing.
Twitter, again, single entry point via http and dns.

Blocking internet service is the only one I can give you but it's not relevant to ETH, eth's public network is worldwide and not limited to specific geography. Nothing can prevent the government from shutting down internet access but the likelihood of that in first world countries should be low. Regardless there are totally ways around it, meshnets were formed in those countries with external internet nodes for them to use. Meshnet technology is a whole separate thing that is growing on its own and compliments ETH, if meshnets take off it only means peers will be more reachable and thus the eth network will be more reliable.

All of these are problems of centralized or even distributed networks, the solution is not decentralized or distributed but both.

I could develop and application, publish it to an IPNS hash and tell people to grab it, the application could connect through whatever and utilize eth transactions, no need to rely on any central thing.

Do you see any issues with that?

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>not putting money into pepecoin and falling for eth still cause it made you money once.

>>1149789
That's the point. Those things all rely on single entry and can be taken down simply by a powerful government demanding the domain be revoked. The US government can huff and puff all they like but a pirate bay hosted on the ethereum network wouldn't come down until the users all agreed to stop hosting it on their nodes.

I'm agreeing with you.

>>1149789
>Blocking internet service is the only one I can give you but it's not relevant to ETH
Correction, not specific to ETH. If a government removes internet service and you rely on services that use the internet for transport you're boned no matter what. You're not accessing eth services but you're not accessing anything else either.

The other thing here too is it being distributed you just have to contact peers that you need, which is where meshnets come in, even without internet if you have some connection to other peers who in turn have access to other peers you can implement message passing, that may already be a part of this but I need to look at it more closely. It seems like something they'd do since it only reinforces the unstoppable, highly reliable service thing they're going for.

>>1149806
Woops my fault. I'm not on my game right now to be honest. A little busy but I like talking about this stuff, it's very exciting to me to see these system actually being realized, like you can use them right now and it's not just whitepapers or theories, it's real software you can use now and it actually works as described.

>>1149813
No worries. It excites me too. I'm in software myself so seeing new tech with actual application both in the future and in past situations that could have been avoided with it sounds fucking awesome. It's kind of like when you realize that 90% of old horror movies make no sense when cellphones exist so new horror movies always have you magically lose signal.
The only way to stop these future applications is too shut down the entire internet for your nation. The "calling somebody Hitler" response of dealing with a movement. I can't wait to see who does it first.

Ok, I admit I panicked after repeatedly telling people in previous threads not to panic.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVc_tOyIz3g

moon time.