give me ONE GOOD FUCKING REASON to not withdraw all my funds

>>1043656
never realize your losses pham

>>1043656
holy shit /biz/ is retarded


i knew this was going to happens months ago

this will be much worse than the great depression

>>1043656
I think you need to sell bro

>>1043656
Your wife drops down far more than 400 every day, m8.

It's 2008-9 all over again.

Wait for some stability then buy in. Every nation is facing with there currency so this shut show will keep going for the short term.

>I'VE LOST MONEY ON PAPER
>BETTER SEAL THAT IN AND PERMANENTLY LOSE IT

A fool and his money are soon parted. Buy high, sell low you fucking idiot.

>>1043656
YOU in particular need to sell. You're an idiot.

When you buy finds that track indexes, you hold them for decades. But, feel free to sell every time you're looking at a loss, investor.

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>>1043656
>give me ONE GOOD FUCKING REASON to not withdraw all my funds and stocks right now

Because then you would have bought at a high and sold at a loss. Are you this retarded?

>>1043669
>i knew this was going to happens months ago

It did happen. And it went back up. Pic related.

Fucking idiots man ffs

>>1043706
It could never go back up, look at japan.

>>1043709
>It could never go back up

That's what was said literally 3 months ago.

Seriously you fucking morons are ridiculous.

This happens every little while and people always say "BLACK FRIDAY GG WE'RE FUCKED DEPRESSION IS HAPPENING".

>>1043699
you can actually make a fuckton trading on volatility and leveraged inverse etfs
see >>1043472
but yes, you will also make money if you just buy vetted companies or investment grade indexes hold. the only people losing money are the impatient.

>>1043709

This.

Anyone who says "it will always go back up" is a legitimate idiot.

The truth is it that it may or may not. It's not possible to predict.

>>1043727
>Anyone who says "it will always go back up" is a legitimate idiot.

Yeah who cares about the fact that it has done that numerous times historically even in the last 20 times. Whatever listen to some /pol/ NEETs.

>>1043714
How high do you think the stock market will be when T-bonds are paying 8%?

>>1043732

Lel there have been times that it has taken 30 years to recover your losses too. Always going up isn't enough.

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>>1043663
>>1043669
>>1043671
>>1043672
>>1043704
>>1043706

>staying in the market after interest rates rose

Is it time to abandon stocks and buy bitcoin and ethereum?

I heard someone earlier say that stocks could never go back up. So i think thats what ima be doin'

>>1043752
>buy bitcoin

bruh, you been paying attention?

>>1043732

How about taking your crystal bay and shove it up your ass?

Maybe you won't make such idiotic claims anymore.

Give it a shot.

>>1043753
Yes i have, to how terribly the stock market is doing right now.

>>1043757
>https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7#.c7pnt5voy

>http://blog.cryptsy.com/

>>1043714
Two 10%ish corrections in six months has only happened a few times apparently....1929, 2000, 2008....

When oil at record highs
>we are running out of cheap oil to pump
>oil will never be cheap again

When oil at record lows
>oil is too cheap to pump
>oil will never be expensive again

>>1043752
>>1043757
>Bitcoin
>Doing less terribly than stocks

Ok i am leaving this board. You people are officially retards and/or invaded by /pol/ and /r9k/ who want to buy memes with their NEETbux and tendies funds.

>>1043758
Seems like a good time to buy ethereum

>>1043765
If butthurt was a currency you'd be a rich man.

>put 30k into the market 2 months ago

JUST

>>1043764
When stocks at record highs
>we are running out of places to invest (inflation)
>stocks will never be cheap again


When stocks at record lows
>stocks too cheap to buy (depression)
>stocks will never be expensive again

>>1043774
>put 10k into the market a year ago

WAKE ME UP INSIDE (CAN'T WAKE UP)

>>1043656
Ahaha you are a fucking idiot.
buy high sell low buy high sell low

>>1043771
Yeah sell everything and buy bitcoin or ethereum bro. It's bound to go up! It's got a limited supply amirite?

Who are you kidding? You don't have any money, you're an armchair economist who thinks he knows anything when in reality he started browsing /biz/ to make himself feel better about "learning something" when wastes his life on dumb shit on /r9k/.

>>1043656
Were still at the record highs of october 2014 for s&p

How will we ever recover from a correction back to record highs?

Wont someone think of the children!

>>1043786
Like I said before, if butthurt was a currency you'd be rich

>>1043789
Because you retards ruined this board.

Please spend all your money on bitcoin and ethereum, buy it, go on.

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Buy High Sell Low OP

Tis the way to riches.

----

But seriously, Fed will come in and lower rates and you will miss the massive spike if you aren't invested.

>>1043889
>Fed will come in and lower rates
>lower rates
>by 0.25%
WOWITSFUCKINGNOTHING.JPG

>>1043669
> I knew this was going to happen months ago.

People have predicted the bubble is going to pop every month of every year since 2008.

>>1043894
.25% can make a huge difference, and if that doesn't work they can take it negative.

DOW 20,000 2016

DOW 30,000 2017

>>1043889
>Fed will come in and lower rates
they just raised them tho

>>1043899
>This cute little muffin thinks that this scenario would be a good thing

I'm finally glad this whole shit is coming down. I think everyone is beginning to realise ALL this debt is literally worthless. It's never getting paid back, it's time to move on and rebuild from the ground up with good foundations this time.

Fuck your fiat.

>>1043920

fearmonger alex jones retard

enjoy eating your gold and silver while the rest of us buy filet mignon on the fed's dollar faggot

>>1043933
I don't even watch alex jones,

But what even is a dollar anymore? Like an actual dollar.

I'm not from the US.

I see the petrodollar crumbling, it's not backed by anything other than a promise for nothing. And almost all of the 'dollars' are just bits of easily replicable data behind computer screens.

If/when the market gets flooded with all these cheap indebted dollars, which I see as an inevitability what with all the QE and bailout money, what happens then?

Will banks just print out everybodies "dollars" and hand them out like Reichsmark's?

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Why do emotional people invest?

It's so stupid.

Also why do people post jewish shit? Seeing almost two trillion dollars evaporate would be the absolute worst thing for jewish people and the iconic jewish meme.

The correct type of trolling images would simply be american flags and eagles.

>>1043942

do you actually believe what you are writing?

market flooded with dollars kek

dollar has never been in more of a deflationary pattern in history

>>1043947
Yeah, which is what is killing the economy.

A strong dollar stops investment and risk, it's literally strangling the lifeblood of trade and commerce.

You guys need to learn about fucking Dollar cost averaging. 98% of people on this board literally have no idea.
I only come on here for a laugh.

>>1043946
>Why do emotional people invest?
>It's so stupid.

Actually emotional people tend to not have over $10k invested into anything. They will usually invest their (meager) $2k savings or whatever based on some suggestions with minimal research/understanding and then shit the bed when they see that the market is down -2% or whatever and quickly sell at a loss thinking they're "cutting their losses" or whatever.

>>1043952
>You guys need to learn about fucking Dollar cost averaging. 98% of people on this board literally have no idea.

T-they used to... I swear like a year ago people on this board were all about dollar cost averaging, longterm investing and realized that there's no "get rich quick" memes that actually work and don't have equal or higher risk than chance to get you rich.

Board is complete shit now tho, i just come here to laugh or when i'm bored waiting for an appointment or whatever with nothing to do.

Dumb negros.

Black Friday happens because everyone exists their positions before the weekend. Now is a time to double down.

>>1043889

Fed will not lower interest rates.

>>1043656
haha I have been all cash since November, I saw this coming a while back, now I am just sitting back and waiting for a good time to pick up a bunch of cheap stocks, feels pretty good man.

This is why you should have a job and invest for the long term. Trying to live off playing stocks is foolish.

>>1044092

You're a tool for not shorting, just shows you weren't honest with yourself. You're the real puss ass bitch.

>>1044104
I didn't short because I knew better than to try to time the market that closely, sitting on cash has been more than enough profitable for me.

>>1044108

>I timed the market
>But I didnt want to time the market

Sure thing m8

Worse two week opening in US stock market history. ITS OVER GUYS. The bankers are going to jump off buildings. Oh wait, it already happening. China shit the bed and the US vomited over it. The Eurozone is going to implode next.

So I see that S is less than $3 right now. What are the odds of them making a turnaround?

>>1044108

Cause' shorting requires timing...

>>1044109
>sitting in cash when you think it's close to going down but you aren't sure when

vs

>closing all long positions and going short

there are different degrees of timing the market, everyone times the market to some degree, otherwise we would all be buying high and selling low, are you all so stupid that you don't see that?

>>1044104
Not everyone has the 25k to get a shorting account though.

I think the going to 15k might have been a barrier, if nothing improves could see it drop to a 14.5k support and then a gut check, with the market returning to a 16k average or a further deepening.

>>1044122
WTF sorry I meant 'NYSE going to 15000 level' that was a really poorly written post. Entire second sentence was about the market not the shorting account.

>>1043761
Both those times were followed by excellent runs for the market.

Those who threw more money in the market in 08 nearly doubled their money in 6 years. If I did not have outstanding debt, an iffy job, and low savings I would be throwing money in right now. Record highs for the market had to end at some point, and now seems to be the right time.

>>1043656

Did you lose more than you put in? Are prices lower than when you bought in? You only LOSE if you pull it all the fuck out.

Just calm down and realize that investing isn't a short-term gain. Daytrading is shit and daytraders are idiots. The market will return just fine. Don't be like the other idiots who go take all their money out and then fuck over the entire world economy for longer.

>>1043745
Not if you include dividends.

If you include dividends, shit is much faster.

>>1044132
>The market will return just fine.
Or not. We don't know. Everytime these things happen you have to wait and see.

>>1044131
I'm from Sweden, and my dad bought bank stocks and made something ridiculous like 400% gains over the last 7 years. All on the notion that "they'll always bail out the banks".

Then he sold just before the top this spring because he needed cash for some landscaping+a slight feeling that the market was really high at the time so he felt it might be time to get out and start waiting for the next one.

Morale of the story is that if you buy and hold after a crash it's likely even a person without much insight can make money as long as they have the balls and the patience.

>>1043656
Because you should be buying, pussy

>>1044137
Eh over the long haul it will recover. The markets will evolve like usual, and the *landscape* will change, but yeah it'll recover just like the crashes and recessions.

It's not going to be a lightswitch though that's for sure. Unless we're going to war lol

>>1044149
>Unless we're going to war lol
This is the US, so this is always an option. A lot of chickenhawks in Congress and corporate America love war. But this meltdown can be the start of a Japanese style stagnation. The US/EU have been stagnate since 2008. Also the OPEC production lines won't be revisited until May. So the meltdown of the market will continue. China ballooning debt is destroying their economy. They have the highest debt in the world.

>>1044158
>stagnated

Hasn't the economy grown for all years except 2009 since 2008? Atleast in Sweden it has.

Or is it all just numbers pulled out of the air with the help of QE?

>>1043656
Because if the stocks go down the toilet, your money won't be worth the paper it's printed on, as the rest of the economy tanks with it.

>>1044158
> The US/EU have been stagnate since 2008.

>housing market has recovered
>2015 saw the record vehicle sales
>US is nearly self sufficient on oil production
>unemployment is only an issue if you are 55+ or a tumblr faggot
>robotics and private space industry are poised to explode in the next 10 years

This is your run of the mill recession and a dotcom bust level event for oil/gas. In general foreigners cannot invest in the Chinese stock market. They won't drag the US down. The EU has been horrible since 2008, but they have not done much to hurt the US.

>>1044184
>>1044141

Nice, another Swede here. Do you agree that the Swedish economy is about to implode with this ridiculous housing bubble we have brewing? I think that Ingves' policies of negative interest rate is fucking up our economy on a gigantic scale but politicians and the media are too focused on union scandals and refugees rather than actual economic issues.

(Economic) Winter is coming.

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>>1043656
Market is closed monday in murrica. You gonna see hell of a 4 day ride. Companies like intel lost nearly 10% today. Banks have 2 trillion in cash just waiting. They are going to strike all these prices like hyenas.

>>1044193
>US is nearly self sufficient on oil production
This meme again. The US imports 60% of its oil from the Americas.
>unemployment is only an issue with old farts and tumblir
go back to /pol/. All the job added were part time wage cuck jobs. Also google Georgetown school of education and economy report on the "recovery". Not all jobs were recovered and the jobs added were no benefit/part-time jobs.
>robotic and space industry
Go back to 9fag. Those industries are running massive debt and producing no results. Google had to finance everything in their robotic division because it was too expensive for most investors and companies.
This isn't your run of hte mill recession. We don't need even know where the fcuk is bottom or bad its going to get. With run of mill recession the bottom would have been reached already. Dot-com bubble wasn't this bad. I remember it because I didn't lose a lot of money. A lot of clever traders/investors are losing a shitton of money in this crash.
>highest car sales record
That's because most people buy fucking cars when oil is cheap, and this was reported last year that 2015 will be the highest because people think oil is cheap, so I need a new SUV. Watch the spike of car loan default in 2017 or 18. This always happens. The housing market has recovered but its mainly owned by 10% of the population who had the capital to buy it.

>>1043656
Buy high sell low

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>>1043746

>>1043748
this nigga gets it

http://shipandbunker.com/news/world/323829-baltic-dry-index-falls-under-400-for-first-time-ever-demand-recovery-could-now-be-as-far-out-as-2018

Guys check this out. Look at the Baltic dry index.

>>1044196
It can't continue forever that's for damn sure. Even if demand is high, there simply isn't fundamental support for these ridiculous prices(people are not making enough money) which to me seems to imply that sooner or later people will start defaulting on their loans and then the shitstorm will be nigh on cataclysmic.

Which might be just what we need, but it will be painful as fuck.

>>1043790
anon, this board was made as a containment board for buttcoins.

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>>1043748
that's a buy signal. it simply guarantees there is no other place for money than stocks for the coming years

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>>1044219
the famous real estate bubble in stockholm will pop in 3 years prolly starting in late 2016 like other estate bubbles in europe do not buy now.

>>1044219
>>1044229

I think the shitstorm will start once interest rates rise, and Ingves probably knows this but won't do anything about it and is just kicking the can down the road.

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>>1044208
So then what the heck do I do!?!?

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>>1044260
Oh no! Wrong meme!
***************

>>1044260
Don't buy into the market, yet. Wait till you're certain you've seen the bottom and then go on a fire buy. Right now everything will be going to shit.
>>1044229
Well there will no recovery until 2018. Check this out >>1044218

So are we fucked? God, I just graduated school and this shit happens.
Fuck, I'm more concerned for my mom, she's 65 and can't start over again.

>>1043701
Tax loss harvesting bro.

>>1044343
Hahahahaha a bit early in the year for that.

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>There are traders who haven't been shorting the market since September
>There are traders who have held onto stocks since September

Oh boy lads.

>>1043764
>>1043777

Buy high sell low.

Classic /biz/.

>>1043727
It really will always go back up. Maybe not in as short amount of time as you want, but it will go back up eventually. You might even be dead when it happens, but it still goes back up. The economy is cyclical.

>>1044346
No doubt. But the point is that are reasons to intentionally sell at a loss.

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>>1043656
My broker says the market is just "backing and filling" before coming back.

Pic: My broker

>>1044352
Buy high, sell higher

>>1043656
haha pleb, i sold 60% my portfolio (was 130% invested) the first of january and moved it over to shorts. Now sold the rest a few days ago.

>>1043669
Faggots yelling "it's happening" over and over and over until a dip and then yell "I TOLD YOU SO!" even louder. You've been wrong a hundred times, including when it went over 17,000. Your paranoid opinion means nothing.

>>1043656
OP honestly if you're not in it for the long haul you shouldn't be in stocks to begin with. Are you day trading? Short selling? There's a lot to do in a bear market. Hell, just buy the dip. The markets are going to be fine. It may just be the end of the year instead of the next quarter.

Stay committed. Don't contribute to the problem. It will be fine.

>>1043656

the market goes up, you buy.
your broker makes money.

the market goes down, you sell.
your broker makes money.

>>1044914
i worship at the altar of john "wiggle biggle" bogle
who is the broker making money off me

>>1044892
What did you short? What kind of profit margin?

>>1043656
>Buy High
>Sell Low

Good plan OP.

>>1044229
>>1044256
At least sossarna and MP are going to be so turborekt they will never get back into power so that's something.

Only thing I will say, is that there's a lot of money to be made currently in the volatility or OIL, especially if you're using a CFD. Obvious risk is obvious, much if you use the appropriate risk management, earning 100% returns in a day is extremely easy.