>2017 >Not talking on a ham or CB radio It's almost

>>2197394
Wha the hell can I do with a ham besides talk to crotchety old geezers who report you for saying naughty words?

>>2197395
in for answers
I bought some basic equipment to monitor local nets and dx; all I hear are old fuckers talking about cleaning their gutters and what kinda antenna they're using; how can we get some pol-tier shit-posting over the airways?

>>2197395
huh what action can they take on you over CB?

>>2197396
This. I have one but never use it for this very reason

>>2197395

>geezers crotchety from a lifetime of swallowing red-pills

Why WOULDN'T want to talk to them?

>>2197394
Had a CB Radio for a while, didn't hear much.

>>2197394
Can you pick up numbers stations on these?

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>>2197397
Fuck all if you don't say your name and address or other information.
Also you can just keep switching callsigns

>>2197397
I have no experience with CB just basic ham
>>2197399
They don't evoke red pills, they just talk about their faggot ass ham equipment and their old people medicine. It's like the internet for retirement homes

>>2197396
there are usually one batch of guys on a local repeater that are different from the rest. sometimes a simplex freq, but usually a repeater. a lot of them have gone to digital now where you can get some privacy.

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>>2197403
>internet for retirement homes

>>2197394
>>2197398
Maybe we get enough pol-lacks on-air to achieve critical mass and start having pol-nets; fuk them and fuk their rules.

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>>2197394
We had a really good CB tread last night
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/141825963/
>three tittied cow

>>2197394
Ayy I'm OP from last night
Good seeing that the CB threads have begun

>>2197403
Ham, maybe?
CB? Fuck no.
We are lightweights compared to the bantz those guys have.
Cb is /pol from before there was internet

>>2197401
No those are on the shortwave bands. Like 49M

>>2197405
This is what I imagined it would be like; but take the eclipse for example, old fukers sitting around saying, "I'm not even interested in that foolishness, just gonna sit at home and dial muh knobs and fart in my chair." Or all the fukin riots we been havin; why not have a Happening Net?

>>2197408
Lol sweet
That was probably one of the most enjoyable pol threads I have been in for a long time.

>>2197394
>current year
>still needing someone to tell you what to do and like on a burmese snake farming forum?

>>2197401
You need an "All Band" receiver that works from 1 MHz to 30 MHz, can into Sideband and a good antenna. The IC-7300 will only run you $1,600 and transmits on all the HF bands.

Alternatively, just go on Craigslist and find a used Shortwave receiver and buy an MFJ-1778 G5RV antenna for it and ground it well.

>>2197401
You'll want a shortwave receiver with SSB for that

>>2197402
It's all good until you get the HAM autists mad and they triangulate you. There's a HAM club in my town that use to do that for fun. They would give people radio transmitters and tell them to go hide and everyone would bring out their tracking equipment to try and find them

>>2197408
Good bread OP; got interested in radio from pol threads; I think if we keep it up, we can gain some critical mass and living up radio culture. btw, how do you use cb to skip-shoot?

>>2197417
*liven up

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I wouldnt use ham as a direct means of comunication

The internet has a huge bandwith and broadcast range compared to radio

And if you think the internet is unsecure, then imagine sending messages via public open radio

In case of internet failure, I could see a use for ham radio as a backup comunication channel, but only as that

I have been experimenting using SDR and sending digital information on CB (i am aware is fucking illegal, but fuck the FCC and besides, the radio is fucking quiet these days...)

And using radio in order to transmit information is slower than a 56K modem. Seriosly not worth it. I could send and receive text, but sending video is near impossible. I could do it the analog way, black and white, but its not worth it.

So in summary, it is fucking slow, and the receiver part must agree on your protocol for sending/receiving data. It is also insecure as fuck.

So, other than a backup comunication channel, why on earth would you use ham radi

>>2197416
The Amateur Auxiliary
I've listened to them track people down.
you can do it with one guy mobile helps with more
Fox Hunt is when they plant a transceiver somewhere and you go find it.

>>2197416
Fox Hunts are designed to train FCC Amateur Auxiliary to track down illegal signals. I've done a few with my county's Emergency Management team.

Amateur Radio exists as a form of communication during a national disaster and most HAMs respect the fact.

I personally love chatting with Finnish HAMs up in Lapland who mutter Perkele when you ask them how the weather is.

>>2197394
Only fat virgins in your country use that shit.

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>in the Oregon Wilderness
>out of cell range
>friends trying to get their iPhones to work
>pull out ham radio
>exchange bantz with a drunk Aussie 2000 miles away
Literally no excuse to not have a radio so you can IRL shitpost when the grid goes down

>>2197423
That an ELAD FDM?

>>2197417
You need the right conditions. Usually when there are sunspots and solar flares you can do it but I've never actually tried. Basically the sun charges up the ionosphere and turns it into a radio mirror

>>2197423
that looks gear as fuk

>>2197417
Build a NVIS antenna for 11 Meters and aim it for F2 at night. That would be your best bet.

>>2197423
> post apocalypse world where /pol/ lives on mountain tops shitposting over the radio waves

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>>2197428
>Beaming each other slow scan Spurdos at 2300 baud.

>>2197422
>Rainbow Dash is my God as name calling others virgins

Aww.. Little fella run along now

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>>2197427
I want to build one for 80/40/20. Used one on field day and it working great.

>>2197395
exactly what I said when I got my ham license.

You don't talk politics on ham. It's old guys talking about their prostate problems.

>>2197394
>getting a license
>always transmitting with your call sign
>no encryption
Yeah totally safe.

>>2197402
No, you have to identify yourself by your call sign.

And there's a book anyone can buy to look up name and address by call sign.

What you're talking about doing is a felony with a big fat fine.

>>2197394
I already have a Amateur radio license and have the equipment to basically everything on offer that's allowed with the Canadian license. It's only fucking hicks and truckers left because all the old dudes who are actually pretty cool are dying off. The only marginally interesting thing are the digital modes, but the only thing is there is no crazy interest in it because a large chunk of the people doing that are fucking red neck kids trying to do some dumb-ass project. I fucking hate being an Electrical Engineering student in the HAM community.

>>2197431
I sadly don't have the space for a NVIS that big. I could put one up at my cabin Up North but I'm afraid the cabin's wiring won't handle 1,500 watts.

>>2197433
In America, you can look up any callsign on the FCC DB and get their address.

>>2197403
>Their old people medicine

Can't you see they're speaking in code for the redpills?

>Hey anon, I'm taking medication that should help lower my blood pressure. It's called "gasthek Ikes raycwar nao" you should give it a try

>>2197433
This, plus the regulations banning encryption, make Ham useless.

>>2197394
2200m and 630m bands are available now.

JT-65 might be boring but it gets through.

Or go for Hellschreiber. Feld Hell is one of the first digital modes.

>>2197394
It's got pros and cons.
Good:
> Technology hobby, great if you're an engineer and want to learn more about RF topics or applied design
> Learning communications equipment can pay off in extreme situations
> Excellent preparedness skill builder. Traffic nets, working in high noise areas, etc.
> Tons of experimental topics available. Nowhere else you can legally build a 1kW radar or similar device.
> Can talk worldwide with less power than a cellphone (read up on QRP operating)

Bad:
> Public face of the hobby is lost in the past and absolute shit, too many >65's who are stuck in the 1980s, disabled, obese, and life goal is to tell others about Muh Itis
> Old boys club is reluctant to trust/help newcomers, may be heavily reliant on internet for help in some cases.
> technical hobby trends to attract autists / people with poor social skills.
> Bands other than HF tend to be relatively dead, especially since cellphones became commonplace. You can get a Baofeng for $30 but who cares if you're the only one on the local repeater.
> Equipment is very expensive ($650+ new for those starting out, and don't want something that looks shitty and is homebuilt
> Even if you home brew, requires somewhat advanced level of EE knowledge to troubleshoot/design. Will likely never match COTS equipment without expensive components.

>>2197419
Think about it, 'who uses radio anymore?" combine that with being able to hide digital signals in the noise floor and you can stealthily communicate even without encryption. You need to use frequencies much higher than HF/CB if you want high baud rates, think 2 Ghz+

How many years inside would this radio haxor from the 40s get nowadays? Certainly not a fine.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/82390578?

>>2197394
I'm sorry, do you think you're free to say whatever you want on the radio? Hey, guess what, you need a FUCKING LICENSE to transmit on HAM. GUESS WHAT??!!? If you say things (((they))) don't like, you lose your license and get fined, while 3rd world shit holes get to do whatever the fuck they want on the airwaves. HOW FUCKING AWESOME IS THAT? SO FUCKING AWESOME!!!!

>>2197439
Do you have to register?

>>2197444
You have to take an exam, pass, wait for the FCC to approve your license and post your name and address on their website before you can transmit.

>>2197401
On most modern ham radios you can get just about anything on the shortwave bands.

For tech geeks there are digital modes to use. Or you can try to do meteor scatter or moon bouncing.

>>2197410
49m is a VHF band.

I hate hams

All they want to talk about is their radio setup

If that's the best they can do just allocate the bandwidth to something productive

Boring hobby

>>2197419
CB today is mostly truckers.

>>2197436
You don't have to do full legal limit. I would rewire!

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>>2197445
Haha. Well at least we still have free speech rite? Eurocucks and big brother btfo.

>>2197441
>combine that with being able to hide digital signals in the noise floor
What would I even need to do this? Just getting into digital stuffs

>>2197431
Build a T2FD antenna. Works for almost any frequency without a tuner. Downside is that it's not very efficient.

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>>2197443
>I'm sorry, do you think you're free to drive however you want on the road? Hey, guess what, you need a FUCKING LICENSE to drive on the road. GUESS WHAT??!!? If you drive in a manner (((they))) don't like, you lose your license and get fined, while 3rd world shit holes get to do whatever the fuck they want on the road. HOW FUCKING AWESOME IS THAT? SO FUCKING AWESOME!!!!

So you’ll never drive a car then, right?

Ham radio/CB is just another tool in the tool chest, Anon.

>>2197450
I've never put out LPL for any of my contacts. Finns and Ruskies QRL me just fine at 400 watts in the worst conditions.

>>2197441
solid post anon

>technical hobby trends to attract autists / people with poor social skills.
I find this to be the case.

>you're the only one on the local repeater
I live in an urban area with lots of repeaters; local guys use the 2 meter repeater like their own personal utility; any time someone else tries to use it, they pipe in

lol
>get interested
>online classes free local club exams
>obtain am extra obtain 2k radio stuff
>investment barely scratches surface
>repeater convo dominated by crazy people, mormans, gereatric fuds
>radio in closet

sounds like fun

>>2197394
Give me a basic gestalt on how to get started with this.
Is there a guide for setting up under $200?

>>2197444
>get book out of library
>study book
>take online mock tests until you consistently score around 80%
>score like 26 correct out of 35 questions
>shitpost in morse code

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>$15 for the exam (Tech)
>$30 for the Memefeng
>$10 for a ExPower 771 whip antenna
>$10 for a USB programming cable to use with CHIRP software to program it

You're now on the air for under $65.

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>>2197394
>>ham
>Encouraging retards to use equipment without being properly licensed
Oh wait, I forgot I was posting on a honeypot board. In the case that this tread is legitimate I hope you have enough lube around for when that FCC comes to fuck you.

>>2197394
putting data onto the legal radio frequencies is illegal in the entire world, good luck talking to one person at a time

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>>2197458
you can build a radio out of a tuna can and handful of shit from your local electronics store

>>2197461
Anyone who isn't licensed and trying to shitpost on 2M or 70CM probably won't know the PLs or +/- for the repeaters anyway.

Does anyone use RTL-SDR? I've been thinking about getting started with it. You can use it to listen to pretty much anything.

>>2197462
>fuking bongs, I swear; no wonder they lost the colonies

obtain license, use proper frequencies and protocols, transmit at low power, profit

>>2197463
>local electronics store
I miss the OLD Radio Shack when I could pick up a pack of capacitors for $0.89.

I don't have a Fry's anywhere near me so I have to order my SMTs from Mouser and wait a fucking week.

>>2197394
I don't get it why this is even a thing. Not even a bit. Can someone explain the appeal?

>>2197466
>transmit data over HAM
how new are you?

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>>2197463
>local electronics store
>imblying these still exist

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>>2197465
Those little dongle SDRs are hit or miss from what I've seent. It's also all about the antennas with receivers. A properly balun'd and grounded randomwire as high as you can is your best bet.

You can also build an mcHF (a really good SDR transceiver) for about $250.

You can

>>2197395
CB radios are awesome.
>Citizen's Band. i.e., it's for everyone to shitpost across the airwaves.
>but there's restrictions on output power so range is limited.
Well, sort of. It's true that there's output restrictions, but it's still enough to bounce a signal off the ionosphere. Wouldn't it be possible with today's GPS technology, antenna tech, and large scale weather data to sort of precisely target Skip trajectories?

Cb app for Android / Hipster phone works just fine.

>>2197471
I don't know too much about radio because I'm just getting started. If I buy one of the package that comes with the dongle and antenna would that be good enough to get some decent signals. They sell them on amazon for 25 dollars.

>>2197471
How much knowhow would this take?

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Ugh this is actually a decent thread for once. And I don't know what the fuck your guys are talking about.

There's a ham radio store quarter mile away too I'm about to go get one better be open on sundays.

Can an anon give me a quick RUNDOWN and advice on what to buy. Arizona out

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we should establish a /pol/ IRC channel first and foremost

>>2197474
The antennas that come with those are virtually useless. They're 900 MHz old cellular antennas.

If you don't have a lot of room, build a PA0RDT antenna and make sure it has a good ground plane.

Here's a .pdf on basic antenna theory: http://www.n5dux.com/ham/files/pdf/ARRL%20Basic%20Antennas.pdf

>>2197477
Who the fuck uses IRC anymore?

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Don't forget your trusty friend, the Crystal Radio.
Remember that whole "wireless power" thing Tesla was on about?
SPOILER: It's still real, so with some wire, a crystal, and a high-impedance earbud, you have a radio that draws it's operating power directly from the transmitted signal.
Very crude versions of these were supposedly used in the first world war by soldiers who didn't have much to work with. A rod or wand of a good crystal, a length of wire, and an earbud. Then it's just ground the crystal, wire the earbud inline into the wire, throw the long end of the wire up a pole or tree or something, and fray the short end, then touch it around on the crystal to tune the thing. This is all from memory so some details may be wrong here, but it's something like that.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio
tl;dr passive radio receivers that don't need batteries are a thing.

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>>2197475
Basic electronics understanding and the steady hand needed to solder SMTs and chips.

>>2197476
Depends on what you're looking to do.

>>2197394
>not using packet radio and shitposting on bbs forums

>>2197394

>get a ham radio
>have censored speech
>stuck to talking about ham rigs and antennas

No thanks.

>>2197479
precisely, retard

>>2197483
>Not having a way to communicate with the world in the event of a disaster or loss of the Internet.

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>>2197394
Could you connect a CB radio to one of those old acoustic modems to create a sort of localized low-speed internet?

>>2197485

I should have clarified it.

>get a ham radio license

when the happening happens, licenses will be moot.

>>2197486
There is some kind of protocol for transferring packets over radio. I can't recall the exact RFC number.

>>2197487
RACES and ARES will likely be controlling the air in a Happening. It's good to know their codes and practice if you want to be helpful and pass messages. Hell, ARRL Radiograms are kind of fun to do, too.

Being a stormspotter on SKYWARN is very helpful if you live in Tornado alley like I do.

Not to mention, even my little Memfeng radios can monitor most of my regional police and fire stations.

I’m a trucker and really want a CB radio to be less ronery and to shitpost, but don’t know shit about them. What would be a budget-good setup?

>>2197396
DX is the answer

>>2197458
Do you want car CB or home base station?

>>2197485
>has address available for happening marauders listening in

>>2197490
Anything that has all 40 channels and SSB operation. Stryker, older Cobras and Uniden are good brands. For an antenna, I'd go with Firestick.

>>2197394
>2017
>not being a hamster

General class licensee here. Never talk on mine at all anymore; either a bunch of old arrogant fucks or verbal shitposters. 75M is the worst just a bunch of assholes and old fucks. Kind of like 6 meters as it is a challenge. 6M is all I ever use and that is only during peak propagation season (summer).

>>2197394
discord is the new radio

>>2197493
>Not being mobile and innawoods on my way to my cabin via the backwoods roads.

>>2197494
HR2510 if you can find it. Goes from 12M to 10M. I have an older Magnum 10M that will at least transmit from 25MHz to 29.99MHz. Output drops significantly out of band however.

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>>2197409
This.
Late 70s CB was used where cell phones and internet are used today. There were even relays of information up and down the highway. We had a home base station, dad would call on the CB when he was coming home from work, he wasn't a trucker at the time. Everyone had one in their vehicle. It's still the best way to get traffic info while travelling and is way better than any nav program.
Neighbor had a huge antenna with big 90* arms he could point, did all the illegal boosting and amping.
Government encouraged it because no one had internet but a CB would be good communication in the event of a nuclear war.
Citizen's Band, it was very very /pol/ like.

11M is worthless. Just a bunch of niggers "ringing the bell" with high output shit linear amps. It is complete niggery.

>>2197477
Is there even a network that would allow /pol/ to have a channel?
I bet we could get funding from someone for a hosted server, free speech and all.

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>>2197481
That's the thing I know I can blast my red pill propaganda on the air waves but besides that I dunno what else I'm capable. Enlighten me purttty peez

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>>2197394
is there a decent book/literature I can read that will walk me through the clusterfuck of knowledge that is ham radio?

>>2197502
GMARS is a weakly regulated service, but, has limited range.

>>2197504
Go to the ARRL website and look there. All kinds of literature.

>>2197488
There are several protocols.

>>2197505
I have no idea what that is. Global Management Symosium doesn't seem like a comfy place for /pol/

I encourage any of you to get a license. That way when SHTF you will know how to use the equipment. At that point the FCC will be moot.

>>2197507
Oh, neat.
I don't know anything about radio packet protocols, is there a good resource to learn about them?

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I just use this for a cheap UHF, I need to start learning about Ham stuff.

>>2197394
>Not talking on a ham or CB radio

Actually, I use both CB and Marina radios.
Would like to get into ham sometime in the future.

>>2197407

I GOT $25 ON A 3 TITTIED COW!

>>2197510
All you want to know can be found with a simple internet search. I have a book somewhere from the ARRL that talks about them.

>>2197511
Got a couple of those. Cheap and they work. They are so cheap they are almost disposable.

>>2197508
General Mobile Radio Service. It is inn the 440Mhz neighborhood.

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>>2197503
I'm not going to encourage you to use a radio without the license but most everyone starts out with a dualband (2 meter and 70 centimeter) handheld. They will only work for a limited range (I can simplex about 14 miles with most of mine and hitting a repeater will give me several counties).

You'll need to understand how repeaters work and how to program the TX +/- and PLs to hit the repeaters. I suggest using CHIRP and a programming cable. You can just DL the list of repeaters for your area and clone it to the radio.

If you want to listen to the World Wide Shortwave (the stations on the SKYKANGZ Radio), you'll need an HF Receiver (All Band).

To broadcast globally, you'll need something like in OP's pic.

My pic is the cheapest way to get started.

>>2197490
The radio is not nearly as important as the microphone, antenna wire, antenna, and grounding.
If it were me, I woul Look for an old cobra 29 on Craigslist or thrift shop. CB radio models can get confusing, but they basically all do the same thing. If you can, find something that says "SSB" and "SWR" somewhere on the switches.
Get something like a Firestick 4'-5' tunable tip antenna/fire ring mount/fire ring cable combo. If you can, run a piece of string how you would route your antenna cable, Measure it, then buy a cable that is close to or just over that length to prevent a bunch of excess cable that needs to be coiled up or tucked away.
Mount the antenna, run the antenna cable where it will not rub or get pinched on anything, Secure it with many zip ties, verify everything has a very good ground to the vehicle (especially the CB metal housing and antenna base), run your power directly from your battery posts. If you're worried about forgetting to turn it off and draining your battery, add an in-line relay tied to your ignition.
Then learn how to tune your SWR using the radios SWR meter. It is very easy with tunable tip antennas. Just look for it on YouTube.
After you are tuned, start talking away. Channel 19 is fun.
Do some radio checks, and if people can't hear you very well, get a good powered mic.

>>2197517
Good advice. I am still using an FT-1000MP and also have an FT-101 I just restored. The FT-101 has the 11M crystal with it, but, the AM filter is kind of shit. Really only good for sideband.

Best CB I have is a cobra -19 I found in the trash. It works perfectly, takes up little room, and works well with a Cobra Powermike.

>>2197515
Bought it because most of my coworkers have $300+ GME's or Unidens and seeing I wasn't staying for long I wasn't going to spend that much on a radio. Even with the standard antenna the range is fucking impressive, I would go fishing after work and could still hear them chatting more than 5km away and over a hill. Thinking of getting a long range antenna for my 4WD and using the baofeng for it.

>>2197521
That works quite well actually. I have a similar setup in my car with an old Yaesu handheld.

>>2197515
I like that they fit Kenwood accessories. Yes, the fact that they are so cheap is great. I wish they had better features like being able to recall the frequency when you have the repeater name displayed but I have no problem going to the river walk in Detroit with one because if someone steals it, I have 3 more sitting in charges at home.

>Ham radio
>Not red-pilled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sqRm0Ddjvs

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>>2197517
>>2197511
>>2197515
Is there any issue with PRC 'codes' or access points in something like that? Tinfoil is a thing they've been doing it with phones.

>>2197523
They are really amazing when you consider the price. Programming them, once you figure it out, is pretty straight forward.

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>>2197394
b-but i do carry around a radio.

>>2197522
I tried it once when I went out 4WDing with a buddy, he could only hear me on his radio on a few channels and even then the signal was weak, he knows even less than I do about this stuff so gonna assume the previous owner fucked with some settings on his radio.

>>2197525
All I know is that technically they are illegal to own.

Do you need a license to broadcast in the US? I'm assuming you do because of radiowave usage

>>2197500
Out here in Texas, more that half the regular pickup trucks outside of the city have CB's. They are very popular with any type of off-road vehicle enthusiasts. A CB is practically a prerequisite to join any Jeep club around my parts. I put them in all of my 4 x 4's and sand cars.
For anyone that wants an idea of the bantz that still is alive and well in this day and age, just go look on YouTube for videos of people recording truck stop CB interactions. The salty old truckers are god-tier shit talkers. If only we had a way to make them brigade tumblr....

>>2197528
I obtained an old 25W linear for mine and it has pretty good range.

>>2197513
>SHOVE YOUR CREAM OF WHEAT UP YOUR ASS, PEANUT BUTTER BURGLAR!

>>2197394
>what is FCC?

>>2197530
>>2197530
Truth. I hear some funny shit.

>>2197533
Federal Communication Commission. Only applies in the US. Other coutries have their own regulatory agencies.

>>2197527
Where did you get your notebooks, pen, and scissors?

>>2197409

this. at least with ham radio you need a license to operate. lot of retarded hicks and crazy people on cb. i remember reading a story on here about some guy who used to roll through truckstops and blare anime theme songs over CB and trucker frequencies, and then laugh at the homicidal anger of mentally ill truck drivers. surprised he didn't get shot

>>2197525
I'm not exactly sure what you mean. It's going to broadcast a clear analog signal and anyone on the same frequency will hear anything you're saying. It's also illegal to use codes or codewords that obscure the meaning unless you're controlling a satellite.

>>2197526
I can fell HAMs rolling their eyes when someone says they're on a MemeFeng but if it is cheap enough to get more people started in HAM (a dying art) I have no problem with it. The people who end up enjoying talking on it and discovering they can chat with the International Space Station will move up to their General and trade idle conversation with people in Macedonia.

>>2197537
I respect that kind of trolling.

>>2197520
I've had a cobra 19 and a few midland 1001z's. It's ridiculous how well those cheap little modern radios work compared to what had to be done to fully tune a CB back in the analog days.

>>2197394
>talking to people
fucking normies I swear to god

>>2197394
Funny you brought this up. I have been thinking of getting a Yaesu FT-60 for my bug out kit.

>>2197529
Yes. There's 3 license classes. Tech, General and Extra. Tech is fairly easy if you study and take practice exams. General has more technical and math questions that mess with people.

Extra is for the true radio autist.

>>2197394
I wonder if you could actually get some kinda intranet going with ham or CB radios.

>>2197394
>Winamp, it really whips the llama's ass

>>2197538
Usually elitist assholes who think you need to have a "real" (expensive) radio. The BaoFengs are just as good as the older brands a lot of Hams use

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>>2197536
The notebook is a Boorum & Pease Quad Book, 5x5 Quad Ruled. You can buy them on Amazon.

The pen was a limited edition pen made by ST Dupont after the 2011 Touhoku earthquake and tsunami. I don't believe you can buy it anywhere except ebay at the moment.

The scissors are MCUSTA VG-10 Damascus scissors with the "Sakura" pattern. I don't believe they make these anymore either, but you may be able to find them online somewhere.

>>2197527
What is the black keyboard thing?
Looks like a word processor. Is that for your ASCII n00ds?

Without resorting to the old "we're essential during an emergency," why should the bandwidth given amateur radio not be sold instead to benefit the much larger public with additional cellular service?

>>2197538

ham isn't an acronym, don't capitalize it

>>2197394
I've had my HAM ticket for YEARS.

>>2197549
Because we are producers and not leeches; faggot.

>>2197529
Not on CB.
HAM is though. However, You can purchase the regulated radios unlicensed, but you may only use them for monitoring.

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>>2197544

Absolutely. There are nationwide packet networks using APRS/ AX.25 protocol.

>>2197542
Good radio, but if you're just getting a radio for BoB and don't plan on using it for anything else, get a few Baofengs (condition the batteries by charging them fully and draining them fully 3 times), some extra batteries and some 771-clone antennas and save some money.

>>2197546
I feel the same way. Got an old timer on my repeater who loathes Baofeng and EchoLink users.

>>2197395
>>2197398
Install EchoLink, you can have private HAM servers.

>>2197555
I generally ignore fuckers like that. They can make their own radios and roll their own tampons all they want.

>>2197544

other guy posted it but look up "packet radio"

>>2197402
>Fuck all if you don't say your name and address or other information.
It's called a fox hunt. I can track signals with ease.

>>2197552
Sorry, producers? Explain what you meant, please. It seems strange the (US) government doesn't reallocate scarce bandwidth.

Is it something like "The frequencies allocated to amateur radio are too narrow to carry significant data?

>>2197547
God bless, Thank you.

>>2197546
>memefeng
>good as any
Oh fuck....
If we were on HAM, The tendies would be flying

>>2197555
My only concern is the durability and quality craftsmanship of it. I did consider the Baofeng for a bit there UV-5R if I'm not mistaken but I don't know how long the Chinese stuff will hold up. Just want something to communicate and know what's going on and communicate in a grid down WROL scenario.

>>2197527
Anon are you a girl or just really into anime?

>>2197560
No faggot.

>>2197404
>gone to digital now where you can get some privacy.
Negative. I can just scan until it finds the PL and in/out freqs. So can anyone with fairly cheap equipment.

>>2197474

they are great for the cost. the little piece of shit antenna that comes with it is -ok- in that it works. you can still pick up loads of signals but the results for some of them wont be great. sdr has greatly cut the cost for getting into amateur radio hobbyism to like, ~10-20 bucks as opposed to hundreds and hundreds of dollars on gear. really the dongle is what you want, the antenna can be replaced with whatever. you can make a very good antenna out of, say, measuring tape or coax

>>2197562
My old Yaesu 150 is not as good as a new BaoFeng.

>>2197558
See >>2197556

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>>2197394
Hey everyone I was in last night threat >>2197407

I'm going with a Vintage Cobra LTD Radio that I found on Craigslist. What else will I need to set this up in my pickup truck?

>>2197559
This
A single good fox hunter can find someone transmitting in short order.
A pair can instantly pinpoint a signal source with freakish accuracy.

>>2197547
Also if I may ask, where did you get the Sakura diary too?

>>2197567
Only problem with those cheap dongles is they are a little funky on computer compatibility.

>>2197572
Are you referring to the thing the pen is resting on?

>>2197563
Get a UV5S or UV82 series if you want something a little more durable/commercial

>>2197570
Antenna with coax and an SWR meter.

>>2197557
He's without a doubt my least favorite operator on the 2 Meter. If his life wasn't already a living hell, I'd leave 4 Chan his callsign.

>>2197563
All mine are UV-5R V2+. I dropped one from my roof onto the driveway and only scratched the screen. The V2+ can supposedly be run over and survive.

What you have to watch for and test for is factory defects. That's the big issue. If it works when you get it, it will stay working. I tend to like refurbished ones because I know they have gone through more testing than a factory floor model.

>>2197571
Emergency services contact me and a buddy to track interference that fucks with their comms. Never been longer than 2 hours out of maybe 20-25 calls in 4 years. Construction companies contact us to find interference, as well. We have to do it for free, that's why they call us kek

>>2197570
Were you the one with the $50 budget?

>>2197577
Heh! Yeah we got one of those too. Most annoying fucker ever.

>>2197575
Thanks, I'll look into them. Do you know if there is a dual two-way and HAM radio which can encrypt in two way? I know it would have to be digital for that to happen. Just curiuos.

>>2197570
The CB guys always seem to like the K-40 antenna ($30-40) for mobile. If you're using your CB as a base station, you're going to need a CB antenna with a ground plane.

>>2197578
Yeah. It only takes a couple of people with Yagis and you can find them in short order. We located one abut 10 years ago. We were at his house in less than an hour.

>>2197573

hmm. i've never had this problem, though i've only used it on a few different linux laptops (thinkpads). the necessary drivers and gqrx were in the repositories and it Just Worked.

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>>2197394
>Not using personal group chats spread by networking.

Radio's not bad, but it's not very interpersonal.

To everyone talking about geezers- I had the same problem when I dipped back into BBSing. It's old tech that doesn't drive corporate profit so you have to take it as it comes. The next generation and young enthusiasts that make things interesting is what you have to work a bit for. Good threads for when the SHTF, danke

>>2197580
You wouldn't happen to be in Metro Detroit, would you?

>>2197579
Yea that's me. I have a larger budget, just didn't want to spend to crazy trying this out.

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>>2197394
If ham only was anonymous. But there are licenses and identification customs. And probably penalties for wrong thinking as well. Unless HAM adopt a TOR like structure, It will forever remain an obscure hobby.

>>2197584
I had one where I had to go into Bios and set up USB 2 emulation to get it to work, but, it seems a rather sporadic problem. BTW the Captcha is pissing me off. Thanks a lot Mook!

>>2197582
Cool thanks. No it's going in my pickup, I live in one of those shitty overpriced basmentsuite with concrete walls I doubt I'm gonna get a signal out from here.

>>2197394
how is ham going to fix that?

>>2197577
A big problem is that there are many sub-par clones out there, too. They tarnish the Baufeng brand as a whole.
For example, the BF-F9. Looks legit, higher series number than a BF-F8, so it's gotta be better, right?
Wrong
F9 are made by third party (Foscam) from out of spec F8 factory seconds.

>>2197587
Nope. SC.

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Obligatory link to the infamous K6MWT ('435') repeater out of LA.

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/14747/web

This place is the /b/ HAM repeaters.

>>2197581
> two-way and HAM radio which can encrypt in two way?
That's kinda how they all work if you're using PL. Go for the cheap-o BaoFeng/Pofungs. Stay UV5r and above, program them with Chirp.

>>2197593
Yep. You have to have a little savvy.

>>2197394
answer is to combine ham and internet for private networking shitposting
just shove key pairs over ham and use said on zeronet or the like

>>2197574
Yes I am.

>>2197583
Yup, cheap and easy. I have some other stuff I use, but simple and sweet is the way to go.

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>>2197394
Ham radio is great for finding the nearest glory hole but that's about it.

>>2197596
Thank you again!

>>2197589
EchoLink.

>>2197598
>>2197598
Only problem (and I think it a minpr one) is the whole encrypted comms prohibition. You would have to really make yourself a nuisance I would think for them to spend time trying to find you.

>>2197394

HA HA THIS IS SUCH AN IDIOTIC THREAD AND I CAN TELL OP HAS NEVER BEEN ON HAM RADIO

Every few months someone gets on here with this vision that they'll get on the airwaves and start "redpilling" random people, some have even speculated what they'd do with the bandwidth like set up some digital network and all these pipe dreams even before they know how radio works or what the band plan is.

HAMS DO NOT WANT YOUR INSANE FASCIST REDPILLS. Hams are generally old-fashioned civic-minded people who like to contribute to their community, have a relatively strong work ethic, and like to work on things. Participating in these things requires that you get along with all types of people toward common goals - /pol/ fantasizes about what they'd like to do with people they don't get along with and doesn't have realistic goals.

Hams also know that there are a lot of people who'd like their bandwidth in the VHF/UHF spectrum and those envious folks wouldn't hesitate to spread a scandal about a "Nazi takeover" of the bands as a way to get the government to take it away and sell it. Your local hams will snap into action trying to prevent this and put the FCC auxiliary into action trying every way to get you off the air and preserve the reputation of ham radio (and ruin yours if need be). They already do extensive PR establishing the emergency service capabilities of ham so they are concerned about public perception.

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>>2197599
It's not a diary. It's actually a silk pouch to hold pens/pencils.

The exact name is "Nakaya Five Pen Pouch"; Nakaya still makes these, so you can buy them at most specialty online pen shops.

>>2197591
Well, I hope you enjoy it, Anon. I haven't used CB in ages so I don't know what it's like out there anymore. I've been thinking of getting one to listen for truckers reporting "Smokies taking pictures" on the freeway when I go Up North.

>>2197594
I guess there's one of those guys everywhere.

>>2197593
Yeah, I haven't dealt with the rip-offs, but they seem to be shit.

>>2197491
>DX
Oh you didn't know? Your ass better HAM somebody

>>2197607
Pretty much.

>>2197605
>old-fashioned civic-minded people who like to contribute to their community

Kek.
Ham is for truckers looking for blowjobs and nothing more.

why are people concerned about this?

>>2197608
Go back to asp

Fooking Mods.

>>2197605
>>141913836
>Hams also know that there are a lot of people who'd like their bandwidth in the VHF/UHF spectrum
This. We have to fight almost yearly to keep our bands. Cell companies want them BAD.

CB is for truckers.

>>2197619
It's just the crazy /pol/tards going off again as usual

>>2197610
That's CB you tard.

>>2197619
We're just enjoying discussing our hobby.

>>2197619
Something to discuss? For the fuck of it?

Anyone know how to avoid triangulation?

>>2197652
Keep moving, but, even that will not completely protect you. Physics is a MF'er.

>>2197652
If you wanted to throw me off, you would need to set up decoy transmitters to buy you time. Would only delay me, tho. Being found is inevitable if I get sent after you for blocking emergency comms.

>>2197652
Can't stop the signal, Mal. You'd be amazed how quick you can get caught. Hell, some of our Civil Air Patrol guys will join in to triangulate.

>>2197589

there should probably be some means to hide your identifying information attached to your callsign from public record, but the system we have now is preferable to having no gatekeeper at all (see CB).

>>2197686
^This^
You'd need to set up several repeaters. A Car battery or two and a set up per rig could get you by for a while. A couple hours, tops.

>>2197686
If they knew how simple it is to find them.....

Busted a guy about a year ago for messing with net ops. He was good. Took a few weeks to finally get him.

>>2197702
Once the old guard HAMs die off in the next 10-20 years, yeah...maybe...

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>>2197606
You have decent taste in EDC. At least, I think I see a Waterman Perspective. Is it a fountain?

>>2197705
>Took a few weeks to finally get him.
Damn. That's actually pretty impressive.

>>2197705
I *might* join CAP as a "Comms Officer." A W8xxx has been trying to talk me into it because of me EMS and LEO background. I'd love to Triangulate from the air.

There are already at least a couple of "conservative" Ham nets. There is also at least one commie pinko turd burglar net too. A ahm got busted for interfering with it, but, has tied up his revocation with legal maneuvering.

Fucking mods. Kill em all.

>>2197738
>>2197738
That could be fun.

>>2197759
Eh, I think everyone who was going to be in this thread is already here.

>>2197759
Can't leave well enough alone.

where did you guys come from?

>>2197588
I would get a 4' or greater fiberglass antenna, mount and cable. There are 1 million videos of how to install a CB on YouTube, and how to turn the SWR using the 29's onboard meter. Just make sure everything is properly grounded, the cable is protected from pinches and abrasion, and that you never key the mic without the antenna connected

>>2197773
pol

>>2197773
>>2197773
/pol/

>>2197763
Except I have an unnatural fear of flying... Like, to the point where I plan on booking passage on a freighter, sailing for 13 days to Turku, and then taking a ferry to Latvia for the music festival.

>>2197629
CB is for bantz

>>2197789
Just go for it. Exposure will wear that down real quick.

>>2197789
Valium or zannies, muh dude.

>>2197652
Stop transmissions before they get a fix on you and leave the area. It's the only way.

>>2197801
Truth.

>>2197778
Well, if he got his ticket, he would know all that. *wink wink*

>>2197807
Next time he offers me a CAP fly-along, I'll try to say yes.

>>2197808
Might work for a flight to Latvia, but not a CAP flight.

>>2197607
Thanks Anon, I'll make a thread on /pol/ when I get it going to let you guys know how it goes.

>>2197730

i look forward to the demographic shift. the tests are like, basic competency and accountability to not shit up the spectrum, but this doesn't stop the rotting minds of the elderly from shitting up the airwaves

>>2197778
Thanks.

>>2197831
Yup, and in ten years you'll be me. Getting pissed off at the young bucks on my fucking lawn not following basic airwave protocol. You have no idea how annoying it is for someone to join a repeater, drop their sign, and say "monitoring".

Agree with the rest of your post.

>>2197881
Plenty of us will be in the Skyking threads.

>>2197832
True, I was being facetious

Well, gotta go to work now. On call.

>>2197940
73.

>>2197778
What happens if you key the mic without connection?

>>2197940
73, anon.

>>2197946
You can burn up your transmitter.

>>2197946
Don't. NEVER hit Tx without an antenna or dummy load. It can wreck the radio.

>>2197946
Also, don't touch an un-shielded antennae while transmitting, and make sure no one else does either... Higher wattages can give you a pretty good RF burn.

>>2197959
>>2197962
>>2197980
Noted.

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>>2197733
Yes. I own two Waterman Perspectives.

They are excellent pens. They write perfectly, and they're visually appealing (I know some people only care about how a pen writes, but to me, if it's going to be in my hand for 8 hours a day, It better look good there).

>>2197991
Looking on Craigslist, I see several K-40 CB antennas going for $25-$35 around me. Just make sure whatever antenna you buy has the proper connector for your CB (PL-259). Some antennas might be an SMA or Type N and not meant for CB but the seller doesn't know that.

>>2197999
Trips.
Those are sexy writing utensils. I EDC a Z-F301 so I don't feel bad when I loose them, or they walk away. I keep all my nice shit at home.

>>2198025
...and if using adapters, it does change the length of the antenna possibly changing it's band efficiency.

>>2197881
Cool looking forward to pics

>>2198052
+1
Get all connectors, mounts, hardware, adapters, springs, and other Doohickey's in place before you do your tuning.
If you change ANYTHING on your system at all, retune the antenna immediately. Odds are everything will be fine, but kick your meter over to SWR and just verify you are still good across all 40 channels.

>>2198029
Y'all are fancy.
I just snip a bit off a Mont Blanc rollerball refill and drop it in a pilot G2.

>>2198095
+1 AND you want your SWR to read as close to 1 as Possible. A 1:1 ratio means very little power loss. I knew a guy who thought the SWR should read 5:1, so I figured Canadian CB Anon might need this info.

>>2198118
Sounds 5 times as powerful if you ask me.....

>>2198128
I can only hear him 5 feet away.

>>2198139
Hehehe
That actually might be high enough To damage his final if he used it much. Did he have any overheating problems? Or was the problem uncovered pretty quick?

>>2198111
Trips.
>pilot G2
Can't stand gel pens. They make me want to stab them into strangers...to each their own tho.

>>2198095
>>2198118
^These^ very much, indeed.

>>2198180
I caught it pretty quick. He was just setting it up when I came over (he wanted my help) and was trying to tune-it up to 5 and said, "Why can't I get this up to full power?"

He died of cancer last year.

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>>2198181
But senpai, it's no longer a gel pen at that point!
>pic related

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>>2198118
>who thought the SWR should read 5:1, so I figured Canadian CB Anon might need this info.
>I figured Canadian CB Anon might need this info
>Canadian CB Anon might need this
You've been on /pol/ too long, you're preemptively tossing out a "fucking leaf" kek

>>2198233
Well, I do stand corrected. I'll have to see if a fisher will fit in there now..

>>2198238
Well, the Anon who bought the CB and wanted to hit the TX key without an antenna is Canadian...

>>2198253
Yeah, as soon as I hit post I realized the context. Dunning-Kruger works from the top down as well, I keep thinking most of it is "common knowledge", but it's not.

It's been great, anons. Thanks for the chat, and good luck leafy CB.
73's

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>>2198252
Looks too small desu
Bullet space pen and write in rain pad are edc for me :)
Army habits die hard.

>>2198275
I'm thinking about doing a baby steps blog for new radio users. It baffles me that so many younglings don't understand the basics of radio communications.

>>2198313
That might not be too bad of an idea. Even with just CB radios, the fundamentals are simple, cheap, and a good Gateway Into the hobby. Plus, it teaches a lot of skills that you might not expect.

>>2198325
Meme Feng dot com is available. :)

>>2198300
Damn..
Indeed!

>>2198313
Go for it, it's pretty funny how I learned the basics in school- 6th grade I think? Times have changed. Just sat back here to shut this thing down, goodnight all and stay safe.

>>2198348
73, Anon.

>>2198341
Oh damn! It's meant to be

>>2198313
I would legitimately be interested. All the YouTube series are heavily laden with autism.

>>2198515
Well, how would you like it broken down?

>>2197394
Ok

>>2197679
Good luck, I'm behind 7 relays

So, aside from chatting with people via ham, is there anything else to do with them? Is it possible to pick up foreign radio with a powerful enough array? Very interested in the hobby/concept, but I am pretty stupid and the last thing I want to do is waste my money.

>>2198911
Yes, you can listen to global broadcasting in the 1MHz-30MHz frequencies. It's commonly known as Shortwave Radio and can be listened to with a long copper wire.

>>2198911
http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901

That's a small spectrum of radio waves that you can explore for free. You can do that all from your house, but it would cost a bit. Pretty neat set up

>>2198911
I started out with a 100$ scanner to listen to local police/fire. After I started hearing hams and wanted to chat. Its a lot of fun. And you learn a lot. I knew nothing when I started and I'm still learning, but I can point you in the right direction

>>2197394
why the fuk did this get moved to bantz? am i gonna get aids coming over here?

>>2198708
never change pol (except not pol)

>>2199054
Same. Never been to bant

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>>2198911

there's a ton of shit you can do. it is a social hobby fundamentally but there's loads of cool signals firing through the ether at all times. for example, you can get free OTA tv with a cheap set of antennas (prolly <~$20). i don't know many people who choose to pay for cable these days so that's "useful" i suppose. all the coolest shit you can do becomes more and more technical. examples -

can listen in on all sorts of comms, from cops and ambulance to any service or organization that uses the space. some might be encrypted, much is not difficult to decrypt

moonbounce - basically, firing signals at the moon to get back to you. lot of competitions are related to distance contacts, in good conditions you can bounce a signal around the earth off of the ionosphere and hear the echo a split second later as it reaches you.

radio astronomy. be able to map space for asteroids and other cool things by monitoring the spectrum

decode GSM / SMS signals to listen to convos that are still on it or read texts. very boring and illegal however

along those lines there are all sorts of signals you can use to map and track boats, planes, get imagery from satellite broadcasts, receive fax messages, etc etc.

take a look at a frequency allocation chart and fuck around, it's fun and doesn't cost much to get into these days with shit like websdr

>>2199294
Mind sharing your setup?

>>2199294
I have a bunch of antennas set up(cheap to make) but always looking to see what hardware people are using. Only have a older comms receiver up now for HF.

>>2199328

I don't have a whole lot right now, just an sdr dongle and a spring whip (though in process of making some others), and a friend has a QFH he built. I'm going to buy some proper gear and plan to get my license in 2018 when the guy I know is back from sabbatical

>>2199460
Nice. I gathered quite a bit of material for building as well. I enjoy it. Getting licensed here is pretty easy. I'm sure its pretty much the same for you maple sippers.