britfags why did you leave the EU

bc our country is retarded and opted out of something that was only positive over pointless pride for a shitty country.
> t. Yorkshirefag

Take a walk around insinde a central London Primark and you will understand.

>>745165525
whats in there?

>>745165632
Immigrants and tourists from outside the EU

>>745165811
so why would leaving the EU change that?

>>745166021
It doesn't, welcome to the UK

>>745166203
its cunts convincing themselves that leaving will help immigration but people will still come to the country and the refugees we had were only in the thousands bracket anyway were not overrun like Germany

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>>745166594
we in germany have closed borders now. even afghanish ppl are being deported to their sweet home country. the german nation appreciates

>>745165525
it's an absolute shithole like the rest of our places

because a large proportion of the populace are fucking idiots

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>>745165357
That's like asking the Muriturds why they elected the Resident Dump. In both cases, a semi-literate minority won the vote.

>>745165357
Because this country is full of retards who believed that the Tories would put any amount of money into the NHS if we left the EU and that UKIP/BNP/whoever would rework the immigration system.

The latter could literally be solved by remaining in the EU; there's bi-laws within the EU that allow countries to not let in people who will not be beneficial to the host country's society and economy, i.e we can stop people coming here who do not posses workplace skills or are going to be a drain on the welfare system/economy.

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>>745166942
when did this happen

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>>745167436
>Giving the economy a break after 10 years of depression

Now, I know the guy is a buffon, but the people that work behind him are some serious bussiness. Which explains why the fucker never stays bankrupt.

Still, you are discrediting the whole Trump government despite they are making america great!

Suck it!

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>>745165632
>>745167119

dickweeds, the guy you are replying to meant go visit a central primark and see it occupied by a mixture of immigrants who aren't necessariliy the brightest people you'll meet

>>745167523
could not agree more and now were worse off for it. They just kept feeding us bollocks that were prisoners of the EU and the only solution was to leave

>>745167523
Yeah, except that people tried it and they got labeled racist and phobic.

Fuck them. And fuck you too.

We chose to put sovereignty and self determination over other factors

>>745167790
>£350million into the NHS if we leave.
>£170million paid into the EU.

The numbers don't add up.

>>745167854
So I'm racist and a phobic for wanting to enact laws that were set in place when the EU was formed? Ok my guy, keep living in your little bubble.

>>745165357
because we are racist nazis and only want the english master race here. fuck off you immigrant scum

>>745167871
hahhhahaahaa you are having a fucking laugh there, mate

>>745168031
no he means that he wanted it but was angry at peoples reaction to it, he agreeing with you but thinks you disagree with him just a hiccup

>>745168031
>So I'm racist and a phobic for wanting to enact laws that were set in place when the EU was formed
Well, yeah.

That's exactly what I stated. Which is why some people raged to hard when Britain left.

Fuck the extreme right and fuck you for not having reading comprehension. Don't take it personally, I hate you all alike.

>>745168031
never mind i gave him the benefit of the doubt but he really is this retarded

>>745168445
I'm by no means the extreme right, I'm more left wing than anything, but I recognise the problems at hand in this country and Corbyn's dream socialist society is not going to work at all, and neither will May's budget cuts & invasion of privacy propositions.

There needs to be a compromise somewhere, I'm no politician so fuck knows where that's going to come from.

>>745168682
i can honestly say i have no faith in any of the leading party politicians at the moment

>>745168833
Both sides have some good policies, but Corbyn and May are not willing to drop or rework their key ones, which will most likely fuck the country even harder than it currently is.

Very hard to be a politician in the UK currently and have good policies and be liked by people, most people are either hard right or hard left and will always find a way to disagree with you.

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>>745169036
Sad truth.

>>745165357
Why be a financial pillar for a failing union trying to build up the shithole known as the Balkans, while migration worsens our housing market and lower working class job wages for unskilled labour?

im confused

all these fucking pakis thats why lmao

>>745165357
Because we fucking hate Europeans and always have

>>745167871
>>745168114
Well technically that's true.
Only it's a shitty way to see things.
>>745169256
"Financial pillar" mate you realize we're still going to be a financial pillar, perhaps more so, by paying them the divorce bill, then possibly even paying them tariffs, with no money then reinvested in us, nor any say in where it is invested for them.

>>745171139
^Second mention was the wrong one

Europe will fall.

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>>745166594
Or the US.

Eu laws are getting stupid and annoying. Australia tier laws.

Why the fuck would anyone want to be associated with Angela Merkel at all? Looks like a bulldog fucked a frog and an abortion came out.

>>745168127

Or else they didn't want to help Germany support a bunch of countries that don't work and basically just sell olives to each other or some retarded shit.

>>745165357

EU undemocratic - its never gonna change and just get worse. Needs to be restructured to cut costs but someone will always veto - East vs West Europe have different priorities.

Like the US North vs South, getting the South to ban guns, never gonna happen.

Get out an watch them burn themselves down - Junker = Fucking moron

>>745171139

Or we grow a backbone and tell the EU to go fuck themselves on divorce bill. No court will hold it up and they need our trade more than us.

>>745172961

The EU to the UK is like an ex girlfriend that won't fuck you but also won't stop calling you.

>>745172961
Only problem is they don't need our trade more than we need theirs. Why do you think that?
Telling them to fuck themselves - which I kinda agree might be only possibility at some point - will cause a shitstorm
>Flights to and from Europe grounded
>Immigration a huge question mark
>No agreed trade deals
>A pissed off EU
>All the shit going with those things.

German here, i really like the uk so i think its just sad they left, makes it a lot harder to travel there

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personally as an anarchist i voted to leave because i felt that it would incrementally increase the decentralisation of power.

the march towards a european superstate is utterly terrifying for any anarchist.

that being said, i am hardly over the moon that what the uk will be left with is an authoritarian conservative government dominating parliament for years to come, regulating things like pornography (for example forcing opt ins with your ISP to be transmitted adult material) and taxing the fuck out of cigarettes, legislating prescriptive morality.

>>745174606
Didn't really think that through did you?

>>745174703
it is an incrementally superior situation.

at least power here can be managed.

with foreign rulers in foreign lands the chances are even more remote.

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>>745165357
>why didn't you want to be conquered by Germany

they couldn't do it with weapons so they did it with money.

Britbongs didn't want to be part of the 3rd reich, why would they want to be part of the 4th?

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>EU planning to elect a President
>EU planning to elect finance minister
>EU planning to create EU military sourced from member states
>EU looking to suck in more shit-tier countries

Its mutated from a business group, to a super-state, run by people no one voted for, other than those involved.

Gee, what the fuck could go wrong?

Fuck the EU, and fuck the scumbags running the shitshow that it actually is; outside of the PR.

>>745165509
Aye up, I'm from yorkshire.

>>745167871
Soveringty. Mate, Have you read the bill that was just passed? Fuck me.

just to piss off lefttard cucks

>>745169256
I love this "eu is failing bollocks"
The eu is strong af you retard.

You don't have decent housebuilding because the tories were voted in. Moron. Get yourself a decent job and take care of yourself

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>>745174791
continuing my point i'm that desperate for concessions of liberty to the people that i'm in some support of mr jacob rees mogg, who is a remarkably learned and well spoken fellow, superior in wit and strategy and shits all over the likes of theresa may

while he does have some views i don't, he doesn't wish to impose them through legislation, which is better than can be said of most conservatives.

my theory is that he will attempt leadership when Mrs May is ousted for her failures on Brexit, because lets face it, they will fuck it up and Mogg will come in and sort the lot of them out.

weird from an anarchist perspective i know, but the revolution aint tomorrow unfortunately and i'm hoping for bits and bobs that bring us any more liberty.

>>745175393
that's absolute nonsense.

the real reason there isn't sufficient housebuilding is because of the difficulty in obtaining planning permission combined with the costs of fulfilling regulatory requirements and paying for building licenses.

minor properties could be launched into the sky if owners were free to construct as they saw fit.

>>745175762
The tories can cut the red tape, but they won't.

>>745175411
Rees-Mogg is another Eton-built political android imo. He's a charismatic individual because he was trained like that, just like Theresa and Cameron. Sure he seems to have a good level of honesty, but I wouldn't go further than "seems", because they're all factory produced liars, he's just a different model.

Do you think he would still not want to bring anti-gay-rights laws and anti-abortion laws in if it wasn't popular suicide? This kind of mindset alone is worrying... If he's superior is wit and strategy he would be more likely to be able to get what he wants done, and from my perspective the less ability these cunts have to do what they want, the better - whether it's Theresa May with her 1984 wet dream, or Rees-Mogg with his Catholicism.

Yes, I see though why you would want May gone as an anarchist, but she's only in there because of the Brexit vote anyway - so it doesn't really justify voting leave. There's no real solution for anarchists in Brexit I think, you're between a foreign semi-democratic organisation with an end goal of a super state of some kind, and an independent British government who honestly want to censor, monitor and ban with impunity.

Power can be managed... in a way, but through leaving the EU we could easily still see power-grabs of sorts from the government, as labour claim with the withdrawal bill.

>join for in>join for interest
>join for interest

https://discord DOT gg/gfwEcZterest

>>745165357
Anyone who's doesn't want to leave the EU knows nothing, the only reason we joined in the first place is because the few countries I'm the EU were strong.

>>745167523
Democratic none the less. Small margin but still a margin. Now those of us who work don't have to watch our taxes prop up those lazy Greeks.

>>745177039
you idiot

>>745177230
lazy greeks? haha retard

>>745177039
Actually retarded.

>>745165357
Not a britfag, but what part of the EU's current shenanigans isn't a good reason top leave it? They are actively destroying Europe and, by extensions, all human civilization.

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>>745177405

Rupert Murdoch told us to so that his political party can give him more tax breaks and allow him to bend employment laws without being accountable.

>>745165509
Found the shitlib...

>>745177230
Greeks were bailed out by the EU which is paid for by every member of the EU which is capable of doing so (some GDP shit idk).

>>745177230
Just because it was a democratic vote, doesn't mean we can't have others later on, democratically. By the time we know what the plan for leaving is, we will have much more information to create a final informed decision. People only act like what's done is done and it has to be final, because they know there's a good chance remain would win a second referendum. Not to mention, given the age distribution of voters, if we even leave so early as 2019, hundreds of thousands of leave voters will have died of complications of old age, and millions of younger voters will be eligible. Is it right to put the will of the dead over that of the living?
>>745177405
You have quite a flair for drama, don't you? A small handful of muslims compared to native populations is hardly the fall of Western civilization, and western civilization is hardly all of human civilization.

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>>745165357
I'll tell you exactly why, because we have a load of old cunts in Britain who keep voting for retarded shit like sovereignty and we was promised extra money to the NHS and better trade deals when in reality we got fuck all for the NHS old people are getting fucked over with things like dementia tax which is good I hope they die, and most of this island is bitter because our police force allowed Muslim gang to rape our daughters
The whole countries fucked

>>745177328
Stavros detected.

>>745177819
Yeah and the UK paid its share. So where is my fucking share so I can stop working and have my mortgage paid? France should pay they got the cash.

>>745177908
You sound pretty optimistic that you would get a different result but you have to account for all those who never voted out maybe then doing so and making the margin bigger. What then? Another vote until the minority get their way?

>>745178177
Greeks were bailed out because their economy was crashing, they didn't pay off every Greek person's debts.

>>745166942
When the fuck? Great news either way, duetch. Sweden is getting there but not really.
>>745169036
Sad but true. Extremists on both sides make it hard to even try and be a decent human being.

>>745178305
Why not have a second vote just before we leave? If it's the democratic will of the people with all the info, we will leave, if not, we don't, as is democratic.
It's certainly a different story to have a retake immediately after the election, but after 3 (or however many years) of truly seeing what we're doing I think the circumstances are different enough for a second vote, sure.

>>745178508
Referendum, not election

>>745178508
A 2nd vote was petitioned for and failed.

>>745178508
I dunno if you remember but people voted to leave as a protest vote many people I know thought we weren't actually gonna leave and just wanted to be one of the few people to be like well I voted to leave if we left we would be better off everyone should listen to me
WHOOPS looks like we are leaving, now watch as the U.K. Goes over the waterfall because some retards wanted to make a point

>>745178508
The majority who won don't want to have a second vote. They won the first vote that all who took part in agreed to abide by. How do we know that all those who voted leave are not educated? Maybe they are all the smart ones.

>>745178583
Look I'm not saying it's likely, I'm saying it's justifiable. Petitions fail all the time - it got the signatures didn't it? So did banning Trump, petitions are nothing.
Anyway, like I said, democracy is a continuous process, nothing is said and done, and also that wasn't for a second referendum after negotiations, that was a butthurt petition saying 52% isn't good enough.
>>745178757
Oh boy did I laugh when I heard some people who had done that were going to Greece at a time the euro in the airports was counted as more valuable than the pound, and their holiday was now £1000 more expensive.

>>745178849
The statistics, actually, do show a lower level on controlled education - however I'm not saying they voted leave because they were stupid, but of course not all people who voted leave were actually voting to leave the single market, for example, if the final deal includes that, they may want to vote against it, they didn't know at the time that leave necessarily meant leaving like that, see?

>>745178912
I don't see it happening full stop, there's literally no way May and DUP will let another vote happen, regardless of what people want. They've just passed the ability to enact laws regarding brexit/article 50/whatever you want to call it without putting them through Parliament, they're not stopping the exit process.

>>745179149
Yes, probably, I'm speaking theoretically. This time in 2 years (or longer), she will have to choose between crashing out with no deal, crashing out with a shitty deal, or having another referendum. I know what I would choose, but the tory lust for party-political power is a strong thing, so yeah you're probably right.

>>745179507
She's going to get fucked by the EU in regards to a deal, they're not going to let her get anything good, which fucks us all by proxy. Guess it's the EU's way of saying "haha you don't get to leave without a penalty".

could unbiased education in school change how people vote?

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>>745165509
What is positive about having no control over who enters your country? What is positive about the once-greatest empire in the world handing her sovereignty over to a group of unelected bureaucrats? Or are you just another bot that bought into the elite's propaganda?

>>745179845
Sure. As could unbiased media.

Kinda funny tbh, teachers here are more left leaning, because the tories keep fucking them.

>>745166021
Member nations of the EU are subject to blanket policies put in place by unelected EU officials. Immigration policy is included. If the UK were still part of the EU and the UK said "no more migrants", they would be faced with heavy, heavy fines and possible military action by the EU for disobeying. Perfect example of this is Poland right now.
>>745166203
Fuck off shill. The reason it doesn't seem to have made a difference is because while you WERE a part of the EU, they flooded your country with Pakis. Oh, and most of your gov is full of cucks. ie no guns, unarmed police, citizens cannot carry knives, TV permits required, only certain approved music can be played outside, even when on PRIVATE PROPERTY!
>>745166594
I don't think you understand the idea of generational displacement. Pakis and other ME migrants have significantly more children per family than native UK residents. in 20 years you will be an absolute minority in your own fucking country, because the EU leaders flooded your once-glorious country with Muslims. How does that feel, chap?
>>745166942
Your country won't be fixed until all migrants are deported. The sex attacks will continue against your women, and you face the same generational displacement that I explained above.
>>745167393
Stellar input, you are clearly not among the group of idiots you're talking about.
>>745167436
Name one problem with Donald Trump leading this country.

>>745180924
Pakistan isn't in the EU

>>745181255
Not once did I claim that Pakistan is in the EU. Looks like you completely misunderstood my post. Try again.

>>745165357
I didn't vote because I didn't have a fucking clue. Still don't and I'm sick of hearing brexit.

>>745174179

They don't need a bunch of assholes coming there grimacing at everybody and yelling "guten fag!"

greater good

>>745181255
COULDA FOOLED ME

>>745165357
Autonomy