So honest answers only. What do you Americans think about your

>>745010390
Could be better, but at least he's not Hillary. And he pisses people off, which can be funny. I like his supreme court pick, and I want more jobs, a better economy, and a more secure border, so he seemed like the right choice.

>>745011441
Yep. Exactly.

Anything was better than Shillary or Bernout.

The fact that he frustrates everyone is the best part about him.

These liberal fucktards and their behaviour have cemented his 2020 run.

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>>745010390
I'm happy
He has done more in 6months than the politicians have done in the last 6 years.
Wish the politicians would stop trying to obstruct him in an attempt to cover their own asses. but overall im happy

>>745010390
He can be pretty badass sometimes

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He's a New York crime boss, who, with the help of Russia and 30 years of Fox news brainwashing stole the presidency.

But we hate him so much we could care less. We're not letting him do one goddamn thing until he's removed or resigns.

>>745010390

Didn't vote for him, won't vote for him, he won't get a 2nd term.

>>745010390
He's awful and I'm looking forward to 2025 when we'll get a new one.

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We just want to get rid of him.

george w bush on steroids

>>745010390
i fully support him because he grabs women by the pussy without consent
the radical leftist idea that women have rights is destroying our great country

>>745012164
He will succeed at the tax cuts, and as a result the national debt will double before he's out.

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He's really just a total fucking asshole. All day every day. He's lower than a snake in a pit toilet. Most of us would love to punch him in the face.

>>745010390
It literally doesn't matter and we individually could have had no impact on it. Just sit back and let the music play, fam.

>>745010390
>implying either a dem or rep is a good choice

>>745011441
>>745011716
I think Trump is a pretty cool guy. Eh pisses off Libtards and doesnt afraid of anything.

>>745010390
I think he's fucking up our foreign relations, trying to still sell himself as the best deal maker ever. We are lucky that he doesn't translate well, or the world would really hate us for putting him in.

>>745012214
What's horse shit about it? Most of those things on that list did happen.

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Despite the left imploding, the most controversial thing he's done was enforce an existing law.

He's a dope, but he's actuallying doing some good fiscally.

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>>745012718
Liberals are imploding.
You ain't even seen the left yet, and we have about as much time for those bourgeois Democrat non-profit jockey wannabes as the right does.

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Let's just get those impeachment proceedings rolling!

>>745011885
>implying "doing something" is better than doing nothing

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Nobody follows Trump in the United States. It's over. He should just leave.

>>745012880
Huh?

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>>745010390
And to think she would have won if it wasn't for the Bernvictims.

>>745010390
He's a self centered asshole.

Because fuck Hillary.

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fake debates

fake polls

fake news

real news actors

you're watching america's #1 news network

this is cnn

>>745012630
The world doesn't really matter though. Look who you're talking about, people that have basically give up on themselves. Emasculated societies. They choose leaders that are slowly but surely giving away their land and culture. The ones who haven't or aren't tend to like and or agree with Trump to some extent or completely. Why give a shit what people who don't care about themselves think?

I for one, do not want America to be like most of Europe. No thanks, I rather have an asshole the media doesn't like that cares about his country to some extent than some faggot everyone likes that is emasculating and culturally destroying theirs.

If there's one thing I've earned from history, it's that all emasculated societies fall after mass emasculation.

>>745013095
i hate trump as much as the next guy, but the republicans have it in the bag for the next few elections at least
the best the democratic establishment can come up with is "we don't like trump, vote for us"
once trump is out of office, the dems have absolutely nothing to stand on

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fake rallies

fake debates

fake news

real news actors

you're watching america's #1 clinton news network

this is cnn

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fake sources

fake numbers

fake news

real news actors

you're watching america's #1 news network

this is cnn

He's an incompotent old man who can't even manage his own staff, is hated by his own party, and has yet to accomplish anything beyond some executive orders. He's objectively a failure, which is reflected in his approval ratings. And yet, he's still a better president than HRC would have been.

>>745010390
dumbest piece of shit to ever win any federal elected office

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Let's just all work together to get rid of him. it's the right thing to do.

I dislike the whole one group or the other shit. I dont want a "Democrat" or a "Republican"

He's doing ok. Economy is looking good and no matter what the retards screeching racist say, I don't want low wage workers out-competing low skill workers and get away without paying taxes. I don't want europe's economic migrant crisis and I do not want to fuck ourselves over for no reason in trade.

>>745013274
oh, and the rest of the world, besides Japan and South Korea are shit holes of mass slavery and oppression, so fuck them.

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>>745013097
>implying that both parties aren't actually right wing with different forms of cultural snobbery

>>745013413
>management fetishism
The absolute entirety of bourgeois liberalism, everyone.

>>745013274
>reddit spacing
Stop your fucking bullshit first. Moving on to the whole not caring what the world thinks, that's not how you keep allies.

>>745010390
>Republican vs Democrat

that doesn't matter, only the individual matters.

And the current one we have in power is a moron, an imbecile, a jackass, a criminal, and an embarrassment. He DOES represent some portion of the American population but not all.

I am frankly thoroughly embarrassed this idiotic piece of shit is my representative to the world, and he has certainly fulfilled all my expectations of his conduct as President.

He is a faggot and all those who still support him should be shot and their bodies dumped in mass graves.

>>745010390
Donald Trump has one job, and that is to stir the pot.

>>745010390
He's caused people to unironically claim hitler has returned and thats good enough for me to keep supporting him.

>>745013604
MUH DICK

>>745013439
>>745013287
>>745013095
>>745013150
>>745013223
liberals are a joke

>>745013606
Better than any of the laughing stock top 5 alternatives.

>>745013606
All neoliberals should be shot and dumped into mass graves.

>>745013606
>He is a faggot and all those who still support him should be shot and their bodies dumped in mass graves.

I'd hate to see a representative you'd be happy to have.

>>745010390
he acts like a perverted dick but he's been helping a lot of people and it creeps me out how much people overreact to him

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>>745013736
>top 5
>four candidates for president

exactly you dumb faggot, go end yourself before you do any further damage

>>745013804
>makes the rookie mistake that I'm a neoliberal

seriously dipshit you're kindergarten when we need some PhDs

go run into a wall head first and don't stop until you can't

>>745010390
Couldn't give a fuck.

>>745013859
>alternatives = candidates
>implying you're not the 'dumb faggot'

>>745013560
No, you keep allies with power and promises of wealth.

Oh, I've actually never been to reddit, by the way. I suspect I never will. Think it's impossible? I've never been to another board on here besides /b/ either and I've been on here at least 10 years.

>>745013859
Cruz - Front runner behind Trump for the republicans
Hillary - dem front runner
Bernie - dem second in popularity
Jill Stein - Green party canidate
Gary Johnson - Libertarian Party canidate

Did I forget someone?

>>745013671
>thats good enough for me to keep supporting him
That's all it takes for your support, huh?

>>745014048
>I've never been to another board on here besides /b/ either and I've been on here at least 10 years.
Quit your lying faggot. If you were her for 10 years you wouldn't be typing like a complete fucking asshole.

>>745014072
Johnson was best by far.

>>745010390
Pros:
1) He's not Hillary or Bernie
2) He's against "open borders"
3) He's an American patriot
4) He's essentially a self made billionaire
5) He's not one to be cucked - by anyone
6) He's not a republican OR a democrat
7) He's fiscally conservative (U.S. is $9 Trillion in the hole)
8) Non smoker
9) Anti-war
10) Alpha male

Cons:
1) His confirmation bias is off putting
2) Has a tendency to talk & tweet too much
3) Is given to occasional sophomoric & petty behavior
4) Alpha male

>>745010390
I don't know much about his policies, but love that he pisses off the libtard media to no end

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>>745014284
>He's fiscally conservative

>>745012718
Expelling illegal immigrants is the definition of short term economic thinking. Think if the billions in education we're throwing down the drain expelling just the Dreamers. Mexico gets all that - plus native English speakers who know American culture perfectly - for free in six months. Meanwhile, we're out nearly a million people from the labor force. We get some jobs in the short term - which were already coming back under Obama policies - but no labor force to back it up. Enjoy it while it lasts, but it's the dumbest possible long term move.

>>745014197
Yeah, but he should have been VP with Weld as Pres. Johnson just couldn't hold his own in front of a camera.

>>745014284
>anti-war
>inb4 22k bomb on Afghanistan

>>745014140
It's all it took to make half of this country break down crying so yeah I guess it is.

>>745010390
I Love him

>>745014449
Yeah, that is what killed him.

>>745014532
Feels bad, man...

>>745010390
I like how he calls out the major media companies as the trash they are and also isn't afraid to shit on people. It's about time we had someone who wasn't cucked by formalities and donors.

>>745014420
Problem? He's saving tax payer money left and fucking right.

Some reports say he's saved us $3 Billion as of yet.

>>745014456
You do know that was not the first place that we have dropped a MOAB....

Also, an Anti-war policy is established by creating a plan to end a war, not by just making 20, 1-year plans that spend all the money you have at the moment to flatten whatever country you happen to be in.

>>745014751
How bout them taxbreaks for carrier? Think an $8+ billion wall is fiscally conservative? Thinking childcare credits are fiscally conservative

>>745014917
>implying taxbreaks aren't fiscally conservative

Unleashing the free market is as fiscally conservative as it gets

>>745014456
>22k bomb on Afghanistan

That wasn't a war, or even warring. Compared to GW Bush, Clinton, and Obama, Trump is most definitely anti-war. Trump is the kind of guy who would just unleash hell right off the bat and be done with it instead of getting into some pansy-assed protracted decades long unwinnable war for the good of defense contractors.

>>745014151
How does one type like an asshole? How would my being here for that long affect that at all? Wait, you're one of those people with downs, aren't you? I'm sorry. Go put some cream on those chaffed hands, the ointment goes on the head of the penis, not in your nose. Have you mom help.

>>745014284

Do you honestly think the debt will be substantially decreased by the time he leaves office? It absolutely will not.

>>745015106
How about withdrawing all the troops from regions that the U.S. did not belong in in the first place and letting those uncivilized warlords duke it out for themselves. It's time to end military intervention for economic interest under the thin guise of "police action", "nation-building", or "muh democracy".

>>745013953
If you believe that the market is smarter than humans, you're a neoliberal. Am I still mistaken>

>>745015291
the debt will probably be paid off completely, you moron.

To be honest here I actually wanted Trump to win but I'm fairly disappointed that not much has been done.

I didn't believe in all of the stupid news and race politics and still don't. It's not there.

But he hasn't done shit either. Maybe he's figuring out how to actually get shit done because there certainly is a frictional period in which people need to understand their jobs properly but I'm annoyed.

I want that wall. I don't want war. EU=bad. Less taxes, less regulation. This is what I want to be seeing and it's super slow.

>>745014917
>$8+ billion wall

Vs. the cost incurred due to crimes and benefits paid to millions of illegals in the U.S.

I'm not for the wall, but you CAN compare the cost now, to the cost when it becomes nearly impossible for illegals to traipse across the border and set up shop.

>>745010390

He's a pseudo-populist who played on people's fears of others. In reality he's just another run of the mill trickle-down Republican. Nothing new. Wages will continue stagnate, and the percentage of wealth controlled by the mega-rich will continue to increase.

>>745014917
>How bout them taxbreaks for carrier?

Tax breaks will always be a normal practice no matter who's in the White House. There's no getting around them when Americans are clamoring for jobs.

>>745015389

By what year? What makes you think that? Especially if Republicans push their tax cuts through, what gets cut? The welfare state? fat chance. Military? Nope, not going to happen.

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>>745015507
Bernout detected.

>>745015418
Also samefag, I hate his tweets and his nonsense talk, Like I just don't want to "hear" shit. I don't give a fuck about what you say, it's what you do. Twitter just doesn't seem professional and he just doesn't have the savvy to do it properly. And he just says things all the time and I know that sometimes thats the best you can do but everything is so self referential in nature is so damn aggravating.

>>745013953
Also, I don't believe I ever claimed you were -- but there are two neoliberal parties in the US (three if you count the lolbertarians), and indeed, they all need to be shot and buried in unmarked graves.
>need some PhDs
You're at least a liberal, which is not a compliment. I can't see any reason the entire bourgeoisie shouldn't hang, unless you're going to invoke Alyssa (((Rosenberg))) or something.

>>745015467
https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Aluminum-Telescopic-escoping-Extension/dp/B0099V3HYC/

>>745015616

So ultimately he will probably increase the deficit and the debt will rise. There is no such thing as "fiscal conservatives". Most of the time when a republican is elected they try the whole "starve the beast" thing but nothing ever gets cut, so we just see an increase in the deficit and an increase in the debt.

>>745015647
>Twitter just doesn't seem professional
>implying that bourgeois forms are important

>>745015640
cuckservative detected

>>745015640

No just someone understands facts.

>>745010390
Well he's no Putin or Duterte but thank fuck he isn't Hillary.

>>745010390
"voting republican" vs "voting democrat"

>>trump is a republican
>>theres a difference...

Wake up. The entire government is corrupt as fuck. That's the truth.

>>745015418
Honestly, it's very hard to deliver what you promise when half or more of the people you work with are actively trying to stop you and or bury you in a legal nightmare. I never expect any of these people to deliver what thy promises exactly as they promised it. That way, some times, all though seldom, I'm surprised.

>>745015467
You really think the problem is a lack of a wall? The majority of illegals came into this country legally, and overstayed their visas

>>745010390
Trump is the TRIGGER man. He can make the sjw puddle with a single tweet -- fucking AWESOME

>>745015946

Yeah, we tremble at the thunder of this dipshit's fucking tweets.

The twit on twitter.

Get fucking real.

>>745010390
Democrats are just watered down Republicans

>>745015418
He's actually done quite a bit, but everyone's focus is is on healthcare and north korea. If he doesn't make progress on those two things, people will continue thinking that he "hasn't done shit."

On those two fronts I think it's too early to tell how things will end up. Obamacare is out and both Republicans and Democrats have shown themselves not capable of working with each other yet. China is starting to reign in North Korea but who knows if they'll puss out.

>>745015917
A majority isn't saying much. Either way, both parties like cheap, obedient, abuseable labor, so we're kinda fucked.

>>745015917
>majority of illegals came into this country legally, and overstayed their visas

No, those amount to 40%.

>>745015127
He types as if he needs to put a space after a sentence.

He tries to claim he's not a newfag.

He tries to deflect about someone else's need for their mommy, when his didn't bring him his tendies yet.

This is the ways of you, an asshole.

>>745016073
>China is starting to reign in North Korea but who knows if they'll puss out.
America needs a gun to its head to keep it honest and keep it to its agreements. This isn't a matter of pussing out. This is a matter of getting imperialist asses off the Korean peninsula.

>>745016139
Begone, shareblue thot.

>>745010390
I honestly don't give a fuck. He's a good source of memes and making stupid people angry, but also he helped reveal how corrupt and biased the msm is (others may have already known buy at least to me, really drove it home). Overall he seems like a nice guy doing a decent job I guess

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>>745016139
Yes, Trump is so irredeemably awful and yet he still managed to beat such an amazing candidate spending a fraction what she did.

i think hes a little hooker for the greys
libertina is a harlot after all i mean really
why would anyone build a statue of a harlot
and then give it a mannish face
I mean literally a harlot is male prostitute
quite frankly it is a male prostitute that the french made to mock the americunts
they knew damn well that god exists
and you had all turned away from him
ottowa is the capital of the united states
hence the harlot rides the beasts back

>>745016209
I'm talking about China, not the US. Chinese banks began doing some sanctions on north korean business or something but they might back out of that.

>>745016531
That's my point. Nork isn't the nuclear power that needs reining in.

>>745016385
>he helped reveal how corrupt and biased the msm is

Thanks to Trump, everyone can see how biased MSM are. The irony there is it was MSM who coined the term "fake news" as a weapon against the pizzagate allegations and Trump ended up using it against them.

>>745016031
Look just the mere mention of it makes you puddle in mommies basement.

>>745010390
He's kind of a shit president. It was clear he'd be bad from the start. The fact that some Republicans think he was a good choice because he pisses off Democrats is existentially terrifying in what it suggests about the psyches of his voting base. Politics is not a team sport. If the boat sinks, it doesn't matter who the captain is at the time, and it's beyond shortsighted to think that if it hurts the 'other side' it must be good. A lot of liberals started saying things about how Trump won't divide us, but the very fact that he ever had a chance of winning is because we were divided to begin with.

In short, we're fucked and Trump isn't to blame.

>>745016521
>ottowa is the capital of the united states
wot

>>745016692
I guess that's a fair point

>>745016453
He was on network TV every week for 10 years. Fucking Simon Cowell would be President if he ran. This isn't complicated.

>>745016709
>Thanks to Trump, everyone can see how biased MSM are.
They're so biased they gave Trump free publicity and employed his campaign staff at the same time he did.

>>745017208
>He was on network TV every week for 10 years.

Oh, is that all it takes?

Let's see how many celebrities try to run against Trump and fail miserably in 2020.

>>745017447
>Oh, is that all it takes?
Yes, this is the society of the spectacle.

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>>745017345
>they gave Trump free publicity

You know why Trump was in the news 24/7 during the campaigning?

>>745010390
He's a disgrace and an embarrassment to the office of President. This past election was a catastrophic shit-show. And no, I did not vote for Shillary.

>>745010390
he's done literally nothing and it sucks. over it.

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Bullet dodged.

>>745017600
>You know why Trump was in the news 24/7 during the campaigning?
Implying bad publicity exists

>>745012164
Kek, Msnbc, CNN, NBC, WaPo, huffpo, etc.

>>745010390
Anyone that makes Liberals flip out is good in my book.

>>745017861
Anon can you think of any time the President has ever taken responsibility for a failure in his professional life?
If Trump lost, if he loses in 2020, or if he resigns, we'll be subjected to endless blaming of the media delivered in a slightly deeper key than Clinton's, but otherwise indistinguishable.

>>745018005
You sound like a person with well thought out political principles.

>>745017840
That's literally not true:

>President Trump decreased the US Debt in his first 100 days by $100 Billion. (President Obama increased the US debt in his first 100 days by more than $560 Billion.)

>The US Manufacturing Index soared to a 33 year high in this period which were the best numbers since 1983 under President Reagan.

>President Trump added 298,000 jobs in his first month alone (after President Obama said jobs were not coming back!)

>Illegal immigration is down 67% since President Trump’s Inauguration.

>NATO announced Allied spending is up $10 Billion because of President Trump.

>The President has signed 66 executive orders, memoranda and proclamations as of April 19th.

>The US Stock Market gained $2 trillion in wealth since Trump was elected.

>The S&P 500 broke $20 Trillion for the first time in its history.

And all that was just in his first 100 days.

>>745013513
Because TMZ is a reliable source that never sensationalizes out-of-context bullshit every day

>>745017876
Nice deflection.

>>745010390
We are the fuckin troll masters. Trolled the entire fuckin planet by electing his dumb ass.

>>745010390
Fucking lame milk brain.

>>745018134
Maybe you're too bourgeois to think that anything to the left of ever-so-considered neoliberalism is well thought-out.

>>745013730
To be fair, we didn't vote for the clown

>>745018296
Deflection? That's literally Trump's M.O. for 40 years. It's what Roy Cohn taught him.

>>745012231
He's aweful and I'm loving every minute of it. 60% of the eligible population didn't vote, fuck them. The Dems couldn't find anybody better than him so fuck them too.

>>745013150
China exists

>>745018051

Trump is a blowhard, we know that, but he's not a politician. I would never vote for a seasoned politician who never accomplished anything as in the case with Crooked Hillary.

I hated Trump when he was tweeting daily about the birther nonsense, but at least Trump has the right ideas about MAGA.

>>745018567
Western civilization a shit, who cares whether it survives or not in its present form.

>>745012954
My Republican family who had to flee Poland as the Third Reich fell compare Trump to Hitler. But maybe if you guys stopped posting shit about how the people who disagree with you are part of a Jewish conspiracy they'd think differently.

>>745018432
Did you actually read the document I posted? Do you know that the DNC and Clinton campaign colluded with CNN et al to push Trump non-stop in the news because they thought he'd be the least likely to beat Crooked Hillary?

>>745012896
Proof?
Only a cucked faggot thinks that you can rape someone with words.

Obviously I don't like him. But idgaf what happens

>>745018706
>Trump is a blowhard, we know that, but he's not a politician.
He's been President of the United States for 8 months. He has shamelessly promoted himself his entire life. He has made decisions to enrich himself at the cost of destroying lives and livelihoods of lesser people. What do you imagine disqualifies him as a "politician" in the absolute worst sense?

>>745018744
Western civilization is the only reason you're allowed to say "Western civilization a shit"

>>745018842
You have to be pretty ideologically biased to read that email as a "document" that proves "collusion". Of course the Dems pushed their opinion of weakest candidate. That's perfectly legit.

>>745015007
Tax breaks without spending cuts are just more deficit spending. Basically the opposite of fiscal conservatism

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>>745012896
Stay mad fuckboi

>>745012954
to be fair he did ally himself with Nazis, the literal comparison was there.
If you're sucking a bunch of cocks don't be upset when someone labels you a faggot.

>>745018953
I love the "Western Civ" meme. Like Trump and the Magapedes whose idea of high culture is a night of vidya are somehow saving Mozart and Shakespeare from liberal NPR donors and theater-goers.

>>745010390
I know that is you, Trump! Quit trolling 4chan looking for good press! You suck!

>>745018885
>He has made decisions to enrich himself at the cost of destroying lives and livelihoods of lesser people.

He's a hard core wheeler-dealer. Guys with his kind of juice tend to be ball breakers. Do I wish he were more benevolent and kind? Maybe, but then we finally have a ball breaker in the White House working for America, so there's that.

What attracted me to Trump at first was his refusal to apologize when he made off the cuff remarks that the cucks found unsavory. I'm sick to fucking death of people whining for apologies.

>What do you imagine disqualifies him as a "politician" in the absolute worst sense?

I'm for the outsiders when it comes to president. I liked Ron Paul. I liked Wes Clark. I liked Dennis Kucinich.

One thing we don't need in a president is a "politician."

FUCK politicians. They are all useless cunts.

>>745012447
You got that right!

>>745018953
>the way it happened is the only possible way it could have happened
>t.liberal
Coinage was invented in the 6th century BCE in places around the world, independently. In the absence of muh western civilization, there could have been other reasons, indeed, perhaps better, less compromised reasons that I could dissent against the prevailing order, assuming the prevailing order sucked badly enough to merit dissent.

>>745013912
Love it

>>745019329
>Do I wish he were more benevolent and kind? Maybe, but then we finally have a ball breaker in the White House working for America, so there's that.
So you think he'll stop ruining peoples lives to get rich because he's got a different job title? Intredasting.

>>745019056
Not if you still cling to the sentimental notion that news should be unbiased when covering elections. The professionalization of journalism was the end of any hopes of that.

>>745019190
I'm a liberal. You don't have to look down your nose at everyone who disagrees with you. That kind of stereotypical bullshit is how we got here in the first place. And if you feel like moving to a place without western civilization, remember that democracy is western.

>>745019056
No, the DNC and Clinton campaign colluded with the mainstream news media to push Trump. You see the difference there? CNN et al were taking their marching orders from Clinton's people during the campaigning.

It's all in the leaked emails not to mention in the news broadcasts and online articles.

I listened to NPR during the campaigns and it was like listening to an all day commercial for the Clinton campaign.

>>745019475
>implying that's not what presidents of an aristocracy are supposed to do
The system exists to exploit and ruin our lives. All you partisan hacks can do is squabble over who gets the worst end of it. Tiresome and useless.

>>745010390
>>745012153

Yo, stop shitposting

>>745019484
>Not if you still cling to the sentimental notion that news should be unbiased when covering elections. The professionalization of journalism was the end of any hopes of that.
That email wasn't addressed to any news organization. What are you talking about?

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>>745016139
You forgot
>Billionaire
>President of the USA
MAGA motherfucker

>>745010390
Not Hillary.

Nothing else needs to be said.

>>745014284
The national debt is now 20 trillion under Trump.

>>745019475
>you think he'll stop ruining peoples lives to get rich because he's got a different job title?

How many lives do you think Obama ruined as the result of his 100,000 air strikes?

Trump was a hard bastard to some business owners, boo hoo. Saying he "ruined lives" is pretty subjective. I'd suggest that EVERY billionaire on Earth used some form of deception and shady dealing to amass that much money.

>>745014751
The national debt has increased to 20 trillion since he took office.

>>745019369
It is inarguably easier to run an autocracy than a any form of representational government. That democracy developed at all is incredible. If we're going to pretend that all is equal when it comes to societal development of the idea of democracy, I'd like to remind you that every major power to develop greater expansions of democracy and human rights until the 21st century has been western.

>>745019831
Nothing you said has justified Trump's continued existence.

That indicates that your own existence should be terminated along with Trump's.

He was conned into office by Putin to gut the Magnitsky list,

Hillary would have pulled a Putin on someone else.

Neither is an ideal president but Hillary atleast would have been a manipulator not the manipulated.

>>745019831
>Trump was a hard bastard
That's a really dramatic way of putting "Didn't pay back his loans"

>>745019771
I still had that number in my head from Obama. That was what he added to the debt.

Trump is considering selling off half of the strategic reserves of oil to pay down that debt which sounds like a pretty good idea that we never heard from Obama or Clinton.

>>745015389
The national debt is now 20 trillion and increasing like crazy since he took office.

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>>745010390
I hate that orange dickbag and I have hated him ever since his shit "you're fired" tv show. He's a conman and a crook who appealed to the stupidest segment of americans.

My country did not make the right choice voting a republican into office.

>>745020031
>Trump is considering selling off half of the strategic reserves of oil to pay down that debt which sounds like a pretty good idea that we never heard from Obama or Clinton.
t. Business Illiterate.
At these oil prices??? Why don't you just give it away?

>>745010390
Why do you start these threads, OP?

Trump was a mistake. We don't "think" anything. He's going to keep fucking up until he's out of there. Then we can get back on track.

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>>745019953
You lost. And in 2020, you'll lose again.

>>745019997
>"Didn't pay back his loans"

That's news to me.

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Whatever the hell he wants

>>745020031
>believing debt is bad in a country with a massive GDP

Teabagger confirmed

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>>745020156
sure kid

>>745020219
>That's news to me.
What do you think bankruptcy means? Why do you think he was feeling out all these overseas banks the last 20 years? He burned everybody in New York.

Now I can not pay my bills, and find lots of excuses not to pick up the phone when they call, but does that make me a business hard ass or just a broke lying piece of shit?

>>745020156
Nope. Nobody but a core group of supporters is rooting for Trump, anon. He has rallies to make himself feel good about his fuckups.

He is weak in foreign policy where he claims to be strong. We'll lose to China within twenty years and it will be the fault of this administration and the poor dumb people that fell for his rhetoric. China is the number one thing Americans should have been worrying about over the past two election cycles-- but none were.

China has made it clear that they are friendly with America to an ends, which is surpassing our economic and military might. US has had the top GDP-- but due largely to our purchasing of foreign goods. While China benefits only marginally in our trade deficit with China at the moment, it's only a matter of time before they surpass us as the economic global leader and can start using embargoes and other tactical moves to subvert our power and disassemble the luxurious American way of life we now enjoy. Prepare to see shit working conditions akin to the China factories where our iPhones are made in the next twenty years, where we'll have people working around the clock for shit wages and desperately trying to kill themselves to no avail.

I don't think everything Trump's done is bad. I don't think everything he's done is evil or wrong. I agreed with some of his policies and some of his statements about the media portrayal of him. Honestly, I think the media does vilify him more than it did other, more liberal, presidents.

Ultimately though, he is weak. His decisions are bad for the country (especially for the working class Americans that believed he would drain the swamp, etc.) and all done in self-interest.

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>>745012275
>we

>>745020265
Fox has always been against Trump. This is not surprising.

>>745020130
It would bring in $16.6 billion. I believe he's got a 10 year plan to pay down the debt.

>>745015507
His tax cuts will help all his business dealings!

>>745020365
We have greater numbers anon. We will vote this administration out of office along with its in-fighting Congress.
Ya dun goofed.

>>745020405
>It would bring in $16.6 billion.
Dick squat, in other words.

>>745020391
>Fox has always been against Trump
Do you even read what you're posting?

>>745020405
>pay down the debt
cutting social programs, right?
so people suffer while the rich get richer?

>>745020525
It's not a secret, anon. Fox has hated Trump since he announced his candidacy.

>>745020318
Pfffft, oh, the bankruptcy. Bahaha, whatever. Did he create the bankruptcy laws? No. He just took advantage of them (as did I once upon a time.)

Until laws regarding how corporations are allowed to function are changed, bitching about Trump's legal business practices is pretty weak.

>>745015727
The debt has already increased to 20 trillion!

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do you miss him yet, /b/?

>>745020605
>bitching about Trump ripping off people is weak

kek

>>745019946
>representational government
I'm not the only one who sees this as an elective aristocracy, i.e. an oligarchy with a reality show bolted on the side. As long as parties exist and have veto power over who we can elect, the system is still a republic, with a designated, practically hereditary, self-preserving ruling class.
There has been literally no reason since blockchain technology was developed to not have the people running a direct democracy, other than the bourgeoisie's uncomfortable realization that they themselves are parasites and absolutely unnecessary to the health and well-being of the people, except as they conceive of it.
>That democracy developed at all is incredible
Kek. Ever hear of Polybius' anacyclosis theory? It was not only credible, but inevitable, as a simple matter of how societies develop over time. The teleological muh human progress meme is bullshit. Much has been lost and discovered again. These things go in cycles, not linearly.
>If we're going to pretend that all is equal when it comes to societal development of the idea of democracy
We aren't, but we aren't going to pretend that the way it happened was indispensable, nor are we going to pretend that it was somehow singular like some revealed wisdom cult from the Middle East.

>>745020117
>>745020318
Kill yourself, neoliberal. You still want pacta sunt servandum for the little people.

>>745018196
none of this is a direct result of anything trump did. you're just too dumb to realize it.

>>745020477
The left is going to keep breaking your shit until you stop being neoliberal, tho.

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>>745020330
Riiiiiight. Sounds an awful like what you people were saying during the campaigning. Get ready for an actual landslide.

>>745020695
>durr hurr neoliberal

oh look did someone find a new Word of the Day(tm)
Word of the Daaayyy...

faggot

>>745020596
They fell in line the moment he had the nomination, as did the rest of the Republican establishment

>>745020605
Well it's not actually legal, it's just a question of how much are you willing to pay lawyers.

>>745020723
If neoliberal means bashing intellectually dishonest dipshits like you, bring it on.

>>745020770
Fox falls in line for the extreme right, but they don't want to appear like they support him, either. Trump hates them almost as much as he does CNN.

>>745020723
go home Russia
your dog wants borsht

>>745020548
>cutting social programs

Sounds good to me. There are millions just sitting on their asses & banging out babies just in order to rake in more handouts. If you feed rats, you know what you get? More rats.

>>745020707

Can you prove that? I didn't think so.

>>745020934
>Sounds good to me. There are millions just sitting on their asses & banging out babies just in order to rake in more handouts. If you feed rats, you know what you get? More rats.
Yeah but it's not like we're going to outlaw Trust Funds at the same time. In fact Trump wants to get rid of the inheritance tax.

>>745020749
No, Trump was gaining support during the campaign.
The Republicans have been fucking up.
The Dems have a clear shot at 2020 anon, that's why you're being such a faggot about this.

>>745021018
anything he's done, or any president, in 6 months would not be reflected in the economy yet, dummy.

>>745020802
Bankruptcy is totally legal. You can't pay lawyers to skirt the law for you.

>>745020934
>Sounds good to me.
of course it does. You're a sheltered asshole who doesn't know real people struggling to make a living or trying to find social services.
You're a useful idiot.

>>745021088
Yeah but you look like a total asshole when your bankruptcy screws the people you're supposed to be paying.

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>>745021062
>The Dems have a clear shot at 2020

>>745021088
>Bankruptcy is totally legal. You can't pay lawyers to skirt the law for you.
You absolutely can. When you're talking about multiple entities going bankrupt, there will always be questions of which assets are whose, and therefore subject to liquidation. And all the vendors who are left holding the bag can sue to get their money only if they can afford to.

>>745021237
Trump is fucking up, anon. You live in a fool's paradise if you can't see it. Every policy he's tried to enact is delayed or voted down by his own party. You're a faggot.

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>>745010390
Doesn't do what I want him to be doing, but he pisses off liberals and honestly I'm fine with him just doing that since realistically not everything I want can be done.

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the baby killing liberals have already lost, you're losers and good kind people hate you, your not worth fighting anymore your party is weak, the only entertainment you can bring now is your whining and suffering

>>745020766
>>745020805
>>745020909
Do you believe that the market is a source of superhuman intelligence? Then you're a neoliberal and you need to kill yourself.

>>745020909
Kill yourself, neocon.

>>745020934
Are you going to make abortion more accessible to them, then? You're going to have to pay one way or the other unless you want to be killed in the streets and live in a police state. Maybe that's what you and the rest of the Thin Blue Line hatefags want, I don't know.

>>745021062
Democrats are going to keep being fucked until they put ALL workers first instead of trying to racialize class conflict, and I'm going to keep working toward that end.

>>745021437
>muh cultural critique
>muh identity politics
>muh market
Kill yourself, neoliberal.

>>745021439
>neoliberal
oh look
faggot learned a new word
did you learn a new word
did you learn a new word today faggot
KECKS

>>745021439
You are not American. And it shows that you have zero idea of what you are posting.

>>745021154
>you're a sheltered asshole

I am struggling to find work in fact. I've applied to 144 companies in the past 3 months and I'm having my worst work year since before Obama.

Mother raised me and my sister pretty much on her own and had to rely on welfare and food stamps for maybe a year when we were kids after she got divorced.

Every single thing I have and ever had was and is a direct result of my own labor.

There are people in this country who make babies in order to collect more benefits. There are people in this country who are born into welfare, and continue that existence, and pass it on to their own kids. That shit needs to stop.

>>745021088
Isn't that what lawyers are for?

>>745020695
Backsliding into autocratic rule is precisely the shit you should have been fighting for during the Obama administration. Now you fucking anarcho-communists want to push the kind of government that mandates authoritarian overreach and just give up on fixing the country. And if Polybius' theory on the inevitability of democracy were true, every society on earth should be democratic by now. For a specific example of that kind of thinking, the US fought a civil war because the founding fathers from the north felt it was the natural progression of things that slavery would fade away. Instead, it got worse.
As for your argument that this is some sort of sacred cow, western civilization instilled the fun ideas of things like secularism and humanism along with democracy. People used to be killed for apostasy in Europe. I'd hazard a guess that you're an atheist, so that should be important to you.

>>745021551
>neoliberal.
Oh look faggot keeps using the new word he learned
you learned a new word today didn't you faggot
let's all say it together:
"faggot"

MASSIVE KECKS

He's the biggest piece of shit in American history.

>>745021672
That's even better.

You're a poor person talking shit on other poor people. Priceless, Jerry, Priceless.
I hope your taxes skyrocket when the Dems take power again. :^)

>>745021088
To add...

bankruptcy has to be legal, because banks expect back more money in compounding interest than there is money in circulation. Therefore somebody always has to lose (and get whatever they do have repossessed).

Now, granted under this usury model eventually the banks will own everything, but that's beside the point.

In essence Trump is an economic LOSER despite his narcissism telling him otherwise. Bankrupt == YOU LOST.

>>745021439
>Are you going to make abortion more accessible to them, then?

I don't have that kind of power. Abortion should be free and easy for the poor because the last thing we need is more dead weight in this country.

>>745021659
>i'm not neoliberal
>therefore i must not be american
It bears repeating: Kill yourself, neoliberal.

>>745021624
Why are you avoiding answering the question, market cuck?

>>745021672
No, it was a result of someone else's labor, and you're a fucking scab.

>>745021551
That's not what neoliberalism is, anon.

>>745021856
At least we agree on that much. Wall Street, whose muh gains can only come from productivity or population, might disagree, but they should hang anyway.

>>745021864
>neoliberal
oh look faggot loves playing with his new word
but I think I see semen stains all over it
naughty naughty
KECKS

>>745010390
He's a wildcard, and has been used as one, to place incompetent & more often corrupt figureheads in charge of trashing the shit out of governmental constitutionality and legality and doing unprecedented damage to our standing in geopolitics that can't even be repaired and at best will take a century to make up for. But he's got orange skin and posts waaacky stuff on twitter amiriteguyz and his wife wore the wrong shoes on an airplane and that's what he's got the fucking oblivious left in an uproar over.

He is the proverbial mirror of the people in this country.

>>745021864
>market cuck
8th grade confirmed

what's the matter did the teacher take your phone away from you in class again?

>>745021828
I'm not poor anymore, I'm middle class. And I'm not worried about Dems taking power until after I'm ready to retire.

>>745021856
>Abortion should be free and easy for the poor because the last thing we need is more dead weight in this country.
People being dead weight is basically the most nihilistic bullshit idea you could possibly diarrhetically regurgitate. We don't exist to create dollars.

>>745021973
You aren't retiring in 2018, anon.

>>745021900
Perhaps not, but it's strong evidence in favor of the presumption to be worried about those things more than about the state of the whole working class. Do you or do you not believe in Hayek's Big Idea?

>>745010390
the economy doing really well under him currently
the US dollar is the strongest it's been since the 90's
full-time employment is at record highs and so are the major stock indexes
his anti-regulatory and smaller government policies will help the economy continue to grow
it's a shame repealing Obamacare didn't pass because that's a failed system that absolutely needs to go - either replaced with entirely publicly funded healthcare ala european healthcare or go full private with a very limited safety net

there aren't any reasons to hate Trump besides emotional ones

>>745013912
s a v a g e

>>745021969
>implying that Hayek's social development wasn't on the 8th grade level
You're still a neoliberal and you'll still be first against the wall come revolution day. Enjoy your little marketlarp while you can.

>>745021918
>population

"They" rely on a large workforce. The larger the better for them. People can't seem to figure this out when they're banging out large litters of kids.

>>745013912
>not forwarding conversation directly to DHS

>>745012952
whats the point of a president then u dumb nigger

>>745022076
Yeah, Obama's economy, anon.
Trump hasn't done anything to fuck up the economy yet. But he will.

>>745022119
>neoliberal
go away 8th grade

>>745022029
Oh, you're one of those people who thinks you're going to "get rid of Trump."

kek

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>>745022076
>his anti-regulatory and smaller government policies will help the economy continue to grow
topkek 80's guy

>>745020858
Trump watches them throughout the day. He just cited them as his favorite and only trustable news source last week.

Of course anything that comes out his mouth is subject to change every two seconds without notice or reason.

>>745022119
You're a fucking idiot. How is wanting Trump out of office "neoliberal?"

You don't even know wtf you're talking about.
Shut up.

>>745019928
From the 19-something trillion it was when obama was in office?

>>745022240
Because economic policy is the only thing bearing on businesses. Umkaaayy.

>>745022236
I don't "think."
Trump's popularity has plummeted, the Republicans are facing a tough re-election and frankly, look for more subpoenas and resignations.
Trump jumped the shark long ago, and it's "when" not "if" he goes down.

>>745022287

>On January 20, 2017, it was $19.947 trillion.

>>745022134
Not large, so much as cheap, obedient, and excess. I don't want to (((compete))) with my kids in 20 years so I'm simply not having them.

>>745022184
>t.bourgeois wannabe
Your developmental level is still stuck at the Simon Says level, I see. You're absolutely right, there is no point to a (((republic))) and the whole thing unironically ought to be shut down now.

>>745022224
Kill yourself, econ sophomore AND neoliberal.

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>>745010390
He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop... ever, until America is GREAT again!

>>745022415
faggot

>>745022033
No. I don't. The world approximates game theory, not 'economics'.

>>745022470
Kill yourself, Hayek.

>>745022525
And the correct solution to the infinitely iterated Prisoner's Dilemma is?

>>745010390
He is the last gasp of a worldview that led to the destruction of the civilized world twice in a row.

And there are almost enough idiots on farms with 3rd grade educations that are dumb and gullible enough to go along with it, if they're given disproportionately more voting power than anyone else.

For the time being, it's empowering the truly obnoxious cunts on both sides to make themselves known.

The pump is primed.

>>745022415
There's a storm coming.

>>745010390
He's a turd. He's dumb, and uninterested in learning or bettering himself in any way. He's arrogant, narcissistic, and embarrassing on the world stage.

It was not the right choice. Our country is rolling back environmental regs, financial regs, voting rights, gay rights, and has made a mockery of the Supreme Court nomination process. And he did it with Russian help and pays them fealty for it. I am ashamed this happened and will rejoice when he is brought to justice.

Latest news is exploration of warfighting in DPRK. This will end in the deaths of at least 10M South Koreans. All because he has a tiny dick and a huge ego.

>>745022552
oh look
8th grade is so mad
mommy says neoliberal time is over on the computer now
you have a big day tomorrow at school
staying out of the way of the bullies waiting to kick the shit out of you in the halls

>>745022503
faggot

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>>745022376

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>>745010390
>He's an authoritarian nightmare
>No idea about what the job of President means
>Assumes he can just decree stuff and it happens
>Doesn't understand checks and balances
>Really only wants recognition
>Loves signing ceremonies because they're great photo ops
>Thinks the country cares about superlatives like "most," "greatest," and "ever"
>Has only passed TWO pieces of new legislation. TWO.
>Lies constantly to make himself seem more successful
>Lies constantly to bash others
>Cares only about his own success, or the perception thereof
>Has been stonewalled at every turn, but insists he's achieved "more than anyone else"
>Hated by the establishment
>Hated by the republican party
>Hated by the democratic party
>Hated by 76% of the nation
>Racist as hell
>Can't get anything done
>Thinks an executive order is a law, which it isn't
>Claims victory on things that are clear losses
>National embarrassment
>Ceded global leadership to other nations
>Goes back on nearly every single campaign promise (LGBT rights, NAFTA, 'drain the swamp,' etc)
>Holds rallies because he only cares about the numbers who come to see him
>Doesn't give a fuck about anyone but himself
>Constantly rolls his staff over when they get more attention than he does, good or bad
>Literally everything, to him, is a contest
>Thinks only in wins or losses
>Knows nothing about foreign relations and clearly doesn't care to learn
>For a "dealmaker," he's been fucked (and therefore WE have been fucked) at every turn.
>He's petty and vindictive, which doesn't even really work on a school playground, but it definitely doesn't work within the confines of government, and actually HARMS our society

This guy is a joke and a nightmare. He has small ideals and small plans, and the only reason he's still President is because he knows he has to rubber-stamp anything put in front of him by a Republican legislature or he loses 95% of his support.

Not president material, he literally only won because of relentless shilling by unpaid right-wing shills fueled by pure malice. Hillary is not bad at all compared to Trump. C'est la vie.

>>745022376
Jesus Christ, they'll literally be saying this for the full 8 years. Buckle up.

>>745022595
That depends entirely on perspective. Is it more beneficial to save my own hide or cooperate? That is precisely why 'economics' can't be the central function of society. A perfectly rational actor would sell out his friend every single time.

>>745022617
>Latest news is exploration of warfighting in DPRK. This will end in the deaths of at least 10M South Koreans
Really I'm starting to think this will end with re-unification of Korea under Kim and destruction of the US military force in Korea. There's not much we're doing to encourage our "allies" in Seoul.

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Jus look at the sky, even the clouds know he is amazeing

>>745022722
ya dun goofed anon
Trump is going to resign by Christmas at this point

>>745022815
I don't care. I love making them mad because they know I'm right.
Trump can't sustain his wild ride, he will fall from the cow he's riding.

>>745022648
Kill yourself.
t.self-employed IT worker

>>745022794
>He has small ideals and small plans
This is literally not a problem to anyone outside the moralizing liberal bourgeoisie.
>Republican legislature or he loses 95% of his support.
In practice, the corporate Republican legislators seem to be the ones losing support, and Democrats aren't exactly gaining it, either.

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>>745022842
>A perfectly rational actor would sell out his friend every single time.
And he does, which is why Youngstown looks like it does.

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>>745022876

>>745022957
mommy also says you're going to have to start coming upstairs to use the bathroom
it's really starting to stink down there

>>745022876
the hill shills are still at it, or should i say are prepping early this time, unfortunately you're still to dumb to meme, lurk moar faggets

>>745022979
>forced laughter
That's all you Trumpfags have
none of his policies are becoming law
they are being challenged within his own party

>>745021026
Good. If parents work all their lives to build up something to leave their kids, why the fuck does anyone have a right to touch it, except for the kids?

>>745023039
I don't need to do shit
you're mad af

Trump is going down faggot.

>>745022842
>blathers about game theory
>doesn't know that this is a solved game-theoretical problem with a single answer that is further supported by anecdotal observation
>tries to make excuses for his psychopathy and narcissism
It is never more beneficial to defect, and you should call it what it is. People can and will defect against you for the rest of your life when you do this.

>>745023039
>unfortunately you're still to dumb to meme, lurk moar faggets
That would hurt if you were putting up more than stale ass frogposting stolen from 9GAG

>>745022957
>>745022269

>>745022269
>>745022269
>>745022269
>>745022269
>>745022269

>>745019680
>Billionaire
Millionaire

>>745022269
Ignoring because reddit spacing. Go back

>>745023177
>9GAG
fuck 9gag, ifunny is the only real memesite
>>745023119
>you're mad af
no u

naaa naaa na naaa naaaaa Trump is POTUS, get rekt faggets, niggers, spics and queers naaaa naaa

>>745023358
Answer the question retard

>>745023382
oh yeah I forgot

>;^P stay mad faggets!

>>745023382
Trump's power is dwindling
all he has is his core supporters and a handful of confused Cabinet appointees. Ya dun goofed, faggot.

>>745022972
Except humans are not rational actors, or you wouldn't see volunteers, at significant cost to themselves, looking to help total strangers with no relation to them who'd been the victim of a hurricane. People are more willing to cooperate than would be suggested by current models, which is why I said that society approximates game theory, rather than emulating it.

>>745023435
how's being 12

>>745023470
how's being a salty fagget?

>>745019680
I DGAF how much money you have. If you suck at being president, then you need to be replaced.

>>745023482
>Obama leaving office with booming economy
>isn't working

stupid Trumpfag

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>>745023083
>If parents work all their lives to build up something to leave their kids, why the fuck does anyone have a right to touch it, except for the kids

Massive Inherited wealth just enfeebles the children and in turn society.

>>745023518
>complaining about being salty
>on /b/
underage ban confirmed

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>>745010390
You dare question why the God Emperor of our great nation ascended to the throne of world power? This is why Daddy rose to power; the people were sick of cucks like you with inferior genetics prancing around everywhere demanding handouts from people who actually work for a living.

Donald J. Trump, God Emperor of Earth and Savior of Humankind, is without question the absolute answer to our prayers. The gods have recognized him as one of their own and have given him to the unworthy people of this planet as a sign of their unyielding respect and obedience for his preeminent stature and wisdom. For they could not save this planet and they recognize that Donald J. Trump is the only being in the entire universe and beyond who could stop our self destructive ways and usher in a new era that will make golden ages past look as though they were a stain on our history.