Why is it racist to post pics of looting in Miami?

>>744856315
Black people are the victims here. What happens if one of them gets cut on that broken glass while liberating those goods.

>>744856315
It's not.

>>744856315
Because people never post pics of the white people looting

Looting?

It sure looks to me like they are protecting Simon's store.

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>>744856315
Moar

>"looting is bad!"
>continues voting capitalists into government
never change, /pol/

They need all that expensive sporting goods so they can run faster and jump higher to escape the white oppressive systems of persecution that keep them in generational poverty.

>>744856465
It's the white devils murder glass trying to keep the black man from providing for his family!

Guys loot > Loot get wet

>>744856776
I know right. Black power. If only we as white people could work together to buy enough boats and send them all to africa where they could be free from our oppression.

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>>744856678
Your are right. If we stop voting for capitalist then eventually there will be nothing to loot. There would be no income inequality because eveyone would have nothing. There would be no racism because white men would wait alongside black men in line for the bread truck. Pic related socialism is great. Venezuela has it right

>>744856569
What's wrong with his tits ffs?

I'd be looting as well, don't call me a nigger tho

>>744857183
Well, except the head honcho who's rolling in dough, as soon as he goes broke then it'll truly be a marxist paradise.

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>>744856678
>Implying scarcity only occurs in a capitalist nation.
Somebody needs to brush up on their history

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>>744857294
OK I wont
Nigger
SHIT!

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>>744857294
>I'd be looting as well, don't call me a nigger tho

We will simply call you a dead looter...

>>744857980
I tried to warn him about the glass. I guess he could not hear me over my white privilege.

>>744857980
so you say if I start looting Imma start dying??

>>744856315

To trigger a conservative, tell a lie.

To trigger a liberal, tell the truth.

>>744858276
we all dyin negro

>>744857261
I hope you didn't just assume that person's gender

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>>744858276
>so you say if I start looting Imma start dying??

You are starting the very first steps in learning.

>>744858718
ok get rich or die trying?
>>744858827
thank yous

>>744858961
>ok get rich or die trying?
get rich, or don't and die either way.

>>744859034
ok ok I'm already smarter now

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>>744856315
>Why is it racist to post pics of looting in Miami?

It's actually racist no to post pics simply because the criminals happen to be black.

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>>744857980

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>>744859830
WTF

>we'll name him kendrick
>doctor starts writing
>No! With a Q!
>Qendrik?
>Quendrick
>Kwendrick?

>>744856545

White people dont loot

>>744859830
>bottom row middle one
>still likes doing hoodrat stuff with his friends
>and smoking with cigarettes
>and doesn't care if he hurts people

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>>744860085
White people survive, black people loot and asians kidnap your dog for their resturant to stay open while the meat supply to the city is revived.

>>744857183
The low food supply in Venezuela is because the US and companies are waging a food shortage war against the socialist government to promote anger within the population and to weaken the government from within. They have done this before and it's well documented in Allende's Chile and also how they blocked Cuba from having normal trading relationships with the rest of the world. Basically if any country tries to test a new sort of societal order they will get attacked with everything by the rulers of the current system. Venezuela is just the most current victim.

>>744856465
the whites should really learn not to use glass so the honest black dont hurt themselves, they should just lave the door unlocked

>>744860235
Oh get fucked with your made up bullshit and marxist fantasies, child. No one can possibly be that fucking stupid and ignorant...

>>744856315
No, looting is fine as long as you don't steal people's personal possessions. Corporate America can get fucked

>>744858774
She has a fucking beard!!

>>744860318
Except you fucking retards who believe everything the corporate-owned media feeds your feeble minds.

>>744860235
>depend on the entire world because muh gasoline money
>run country in to ground
>blame merica
Fuck off faggot

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>>744860396

:D

>>744857577
>bread line
>rolling in dough
Coincidental kek

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Fucking roody-poo's.

>>744860434
>>744860318
He is more or less right, the USA always chimps out when the "third world" refuses to give them their capital.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-venezuela-relations-a-case-study-of-imperialism-and-anti-imperialism/5354929
With the establishment of global consumer economies international economic hedgmony is instilled, after you get denied access to the market your life line is cut. The US has unparalleled resources and international influence, it's can throw its massive weight around in world trade and the UN to get away with whatever it wants. If a nation doesn't consent to getting raped, trade gets cut and guns start flowing in. You don't know about this because you don't inform yourself outside of the corporate controled press like anon mentioned.

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>>744856315

It's racist because it's fake news.

It's Ft Lauderdale, not Miami. You racist

>>744860686
Legality isn't equatable to morality.

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>>744857980
>>744858827

>>744857628
>implying scarcity is the same thing as other people making money off of your work and absentee ownership that causes society to stratify into economic classes.

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>>744860947
The TV crew spotted the suspects entering Simon's Sportwear shop through a broken window and running off with stolen items as Hurricane Irma tore through the area. Authorities say the same nine suspects also looted a Foot Locker, and targeted a CashAmerica pawn shop.


Niggers and their fucking shoes

This always reminds me of the joke that Carlos Mencia made, about white people finding shit and black people looting. but the white people had bread and canned goods and the black people had nike shoes.

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>>744856678
We won't faggot

>>744857183
Vensula is capitalist, obviously. The only reason it calls itself socialist is so the state can legitimize itself with the appeal of socialism, and the press calls it socialist because it's a great way to obfuscate what socialism is. This is a long tradition that goes back to the Cold War. There is no sensible way in which vensula is socialist.
>inb4 not real socialism
Duh, it's true

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>>744861186
A joke the spic ripped off from someone else i'm sure

>>744860947
What if they had loaves of bread in those shoe boxes?

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>>744861268

>>744861272
they dont sell bread in a shoe store, nigger

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They are all niggers...

http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/11/hurricane-irma-looters-shamed-by-police-from-jail-6918739/

>>744861268
Having a big bag full is looting apparently

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>>744861118
>the same suspects looting one place were seen looting two others

>>744861219
Didn't happen like this in revolutionary Catalonia. There is no reasonable way to call the USSR communist either. If there is please explain.
Private ownership deprives people of individual freedom. Personal ownership gives people freedom. People should only be allowed to control what they can possess with their labor and occupy with their body. Property is theft to all who are deprived. In the USSRs case the state controlling all property is still private property, and the furthest thing from workers controlling the means of production.
Please don't bother responding with your asinine meme

>>744861289

the difference is the black one is pulling a giant bag full of shit with a 24 pack of cans and the whites took a loaf of bread and two cans to survive

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So far we have not had any looters here...

>>744861470
>Whatever you can take with you is what you get to have.
Fuck off and murder some sparrows.

>>744858774
I hope you didn't just assume that entity's species.

>>744861535

keep telling yourself that bullshit

>>744856315

You know (((why)))

>>744861610

>that bullshit

or those facts

>>744861535
So the black one is smarter. What's your point?
The grocery store owners are going to get bailed out by insurance either way, it's not like a grocery store is a person that is going to cry after you steal from it. I steal from grocery stores all the time because I don't like contributing to giving the high level excuctives more money while they pay all the people doing the actual work the least amount of money possible.

>>744861683
nigger

>>744856569
nice tits on the left

>>744861578
>>744861578
>>Whatever you can take with you is what you get to have
I never said that at all, actually that is the implacture of private property, if you have enough money you can buy whatever you want and fuck everyone else who is hurt.
The implication of person possession is you can only have land you live on, and only own means of production if you are the one utilizing those means. It implies that people can't own thousands of acres while others go homeless, and the charge people rent to live their and pay them a wage to pick the tomatoes.
>fuck off and murder some sparrows
What are you even talking about? People like me in China were also murdered in the Great Leap Forward.

>>744861683
So you're poor and uneducated. Thanks for pointing that out.

>>744861610
>reality is bullshit

Listen to yourself, idiot. wake the fuck up.

>>744861683
nigger much?

>>744861683
nigger

>>744861979

or bullshit. they had backpacks full of shit and he had a garbage bag full of shit

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This was in Miami

>>744861975
Actually, I'm working on my masters. I could afford not to steal, if I wasn't would that make me less of a person?
I steal as an ethical imperative, saving a couple bucks is a bonus reward for my good deed.

>>744860848
Kek

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>>744861683

Sorry about your daddy bro...

But your right, insurance did pay for the new glass counter and floor cleaning.

>>744859997
Nice shop.

>>744862063
When have chink made tennis shoes become such a commodity?

>>744862102
Yeah my dad is also one of those people who think the rule of law is a moral rule.

>>744862145
when niggers started using them as status symbols

>>744861683

I own a shop in northern England. When things are stolen it impacts upon me. Every schoolkid who takes a chocolate bar has an impact. If things were looted it would impact upon me greatly. Do you think the insurance price stays the same after you're robbed and deemed to be operating in a high risk area? It doesn't. You are an idiot.

>>744862102

Rolf Harris has upped his gun game since being in prison

>>744860919
Are you assuming the average american doesn't understand that we are in an imperialistic mode atm?

Cause any self respecting american knows this, and helps when they can. Get fucked third worlder and learn how to work for what WE are gonna take from YOU and YOURS.

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>>744860085

>>744862063
every single one of them is black...
why do liberals get so butthurt over racial profiling?

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>>744861683
>I steal from grocery stores all the time...

Is this your mama?

>>744862213
Things work different in America, almost all grocery stores are corporate owned. The people like you over here were strong armed out of business decades ago, by the very corporations you are defending. Now those same people work close to minimum wage for 50 hours a week.
England is lucky compared to countries like the US and France when it comes to grocery stores. The emergent markets were too strong to be replaced. I would never steal from a small business.

>>744862275

Did you read the part about looting? Yeah. When things are looted, disaster or not, the insurance premiums rise rapidly. Or did you think that insurance companies happily pay out to replace your entire stock of expensive items?

>>744859830
Rolling for Quendrick

>>744862325
not looting.

>>744856315

IN THIS WORLD THE TRUTH IS DANGEROUS.

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>>744862063
try that one again

>>744856315
You should have seen those outstanding citizens protecting the TV's from that Hurricane.......

>>744862504
It was still a fucking chimpout

>>744862299
I assume you do not understand, you might have a general idea of what goes on but haven't been exsposed to the particulars. Assuming that the average American had a competent contextual understanding would assume that the average American is a sociopath that enjoys getting fucked over.

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>>744862606

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>>744862504
So that makes it okay then?

>>744862706
>>744862606
>>744862063
not 1 white person

>>744862751
Nope. But we're talking looting here.

>>744862606
>>744862706
Clearly those were loaves of bread

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>>744862706

The total amount of property crime perpetrated by blacks is a tiny fraction of the looting done by Wall Street and other corprorations. And that's after they get the chance to write the fucking laws.

Factor in the theft they manage with the way they write IP laws, the way the pharmaceutical, weapons and insurance sectors bilk the government and majority of citizens. Blacks grabbing sneakers or TVs looks like small potatoes.

>>744856315
> black people stock up on damaged goods that corporate will have to throw out anyways

Those niggers are looting!

> white people do the same thing

They're finding supplies for their families! Look at how honorable they are, braving the elements!


how is this not racist as fuck?

>>744862871
God damn you are a fucking pathetic nigger troll

>>744856315
It's not, but you're inferring there's a racial element to it because you want to push a thread of 'black people stealing.'

Good job, OP. You're a real Machiavelli, getting /b/ to be racist.

>>744862908
>damaged goods
Niggers stealing shoes from a dry unaffected store, weak bait nigger

>>744856569
why did the cops make them lay on the carpet for these pictures? kinda weird

>>744860686
To be fair, this is true sometimes. But it's not correct 99% of the time... Dindu nothin.

>>744861470
Triggered commie. You idea only works on paper, and even then any sane person could see that it wouldn't fucking work.

>>744862996
Air Jordans and flat screen TVs are necessary for survival. You didn't know that?

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>>744862871

You're just mad because you all can't figure out farming. Here is your sister trying to milk a cow...

>>744862405
You're just trying to rationalize being a useless parasitic thief, you fucking loser. How about you learn to take care of yourself instead of blaming the world that you're a retard who can't take care of themselves without stealing from others.

Think about how much better the world would be without parasites like you.

>>744862964
Ain't that the truth. Trump will disappear into a disgraced retirement soon enough. But this white supremacist bullshit got a whole lot more insidious since he got in and it's going to stick around long after he fucks off.

>>744862325
I was at this exact street party, asshole, no looting at all. not even the same

>>744862751
Fucking mong switching subject

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>>744862864
>>744862706
>>744862606
>>744862063

>i think of...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPxcFm_S1qc

>>744862751
oh no, a car got on fire. Happens every weekend at any given bush party, no big deal. No one got looted

>>744862820
So burning cars isn't a problem?

>>744863366
we didn't start the fire

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>>744863205
>>744863266
>>744863331
Look at this damage control

They should hang all the chimps and blame it on the hurricane when its all done - those retarded monkeys will never benefit society in any way only steal and damage everything around them - chimps

>>744862076
You're an idiot. It doesn't save shit. They gotta make up for that somehow. You're always paying for what you take one way or another you retarded faggot

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In an ideal future, there would be no Niggers.

>>744858827
Them lips

>>744862206
I've never understood why. You wear shoes on your feet so your don't get your feet dirty and can walk in shit.
You don't wear shoes to prove that you have money and bitch about your all white shoes getting dirty. Can't believe I actually got into fights in high school for accidentally stepping on someone's shoe.

>>744856315
It's not racist.

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>>744863601

did yo jus scuff my pumas nigga

>>744863601
>Can't believe I actually got my ass beat in high school for accidentally stepping on someone's shoe.
Fixed

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>>744861219
it doesn't necessarily confine you to a drab and boring existence, it just necessarily gives an unacceptable amount of power and authority to way too few people. the whole point of 4 year terms is our presidents are bound with time so even if they turn around and try to push the boulder off the cliff they can only get so far before someone else gets a turn. communism is terrible. socialist repulic democracy is the way to go!

>>744862376
This kills the crab

>>744863601
>Can't believe I actually got into fights in high school for accidentally stepping on someone's shoe.
If they were niggers I could totally believe it.

>>744863122
I'm not a communist in at all.
>you idea only works on paper
The fact that you have an idea of what my idea is, betrays your ignorance. I don't subscribe to utopian doctrinal bullshit. I subscribe to the process of bringing coercive social institutions to light, and dismantling them. I am an anarchist, anarchism is not a doctrine it is an action. Anarchy is not a model for society it is a state(sensu systems) that society exists in. Yes anarchy implicates a libertarian socialist society but does not implicitly imply it. Anarchy and anarchist action/sentiment exist world wide. Now thank me for being magnanimous.

>>744863601
It's a ancient tribal thing. Man with coolest gear is clearly more successfull than other. Ever seen photos of african desert niggas wearing a crappy suit

Dey's a hurrakayne com'n? Sheeeiiitt.
I best go still suh shoose and teevees an shih bruhhh.

>>744863850
The edges of your fedora are off the charts muh lady

>>744863850
in an anarchist system, you would be the first to be shot by a nigger over $20
you definitely wouldn't be able to afford to buy a private police officer to protect you

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Niggers need good fast shoes because running away is a very import skill they need and they need the best equipment to do it.

>>744863277
It's funny until the monkeys start robbing you at gunpoint, or playing the knockout game.

>>744863421
This I can agree with, mostly I try to avoid the grocery store all together. I steal little food items when I go in, but you are right they do punish everyone if they notice something wrong in there profits. In my home town the Walmart in the rich neighborhood had lower prices than in the poor neighborhood. This is because they jack up the prices for people stealing, "too poor to afford to eat? Here, have this" so I try to shop in upper middle class establishments, for this and other reasons regarding food-quality.

>>744857980
People who wear their pants like that should be killed no matter the skin colour.

>>744857980
The only good nigger is a dead nigger.

>>744861186

People taking perishable food from an establishment that's not occupied and entered for survival vs, I'm a sell these on Ebay or CL then rob tha muthafucker buyin da shu.

Din Du MUFFIN

>>744864104
I wonder if somebody will start marketing sneakers to them on the basis that they keep good traction on tiled surfaces

>>744863198
Rude, I can take care of myself, and I can afford not to steal. Many people have to steal out of necessity, something I hope you experience one day.

>>744864046
You are thinking of anarcho-capitalism my friend. This is very far from anarchy. Private ownership and capital are coercive social institutions.

>>744860318
A pleb on 4chan knows the workings of the world. You must listen!

>>744864277
Good traction wont work if you step on a cardboard box.

>>744864368
replace $20 with the only food you have and my point still stands

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>>744864277
>I wonder if somebody will start marketing sneakers to them on the basis that they keep good traction on tiled surfaces

...

>>744864283
Dude, you're a parasite. A pariah. You live among other parasites and it has given you the impression that what you're doing is ok, but it isn't. Chances are you're an entitled idiot who is simply so used to being dependent on everyone else, that you have no idea how to possible care for yourself without stealing from others.

Again, the world is better off without parasites like you and you know it. You are subhuman.

>>744862376
I wish all you monkey mamas would do this.

>>744864477
No it doesn't. In anarchy you are free to grow all the food you want, cooperate with others to grow all the food you want, even buy all the food you want(money doesn't have to be based on capital), all of this and you don't have to pay rent, debt or taxes to do so.

>>744864568
>>744862376

Problem is niglet will be born anyway, but handicapped and society will have to pay for it

>>744864450
Yeah but you can still put a quick step on the cardboard if you see it soon enough. Plus the use would extend to beyond anon's webm.
>>744864495
I didn't know that niggerball was played on tiles. My bad.

>>744862871
> Something else is wrong in the world, therefore this wrong action is actually justified!

>>744864617
what's stopping someone from taking the food you grew because that's easier than growing it themselves?
why do you get to grow food on a particular piece of land instead of somebody else?
that sort of society has worked in small close-nit groups of people, but on a large scale nobody gives enough of a shit about you to prevent them from just taking all the food you grew and using it for their own purposes

>>744859830
>MKG EZZY
What the fuck kind of nickname is this? His real name, Rashad, is shorter. How the fuck do you even pronounce that?

>>744864566
Say that to my face, you wouldn't.
I'm not implying I would be violent if you did. I'm implying that you would never think these thoughts of you were talking to me as a person IRL. It's very easy to hate anonymous. I could hate you for what you are saying as anonymous, but it's just to pathetic. All I know for sure is that you are a hateful person that puts themself on a moral pestle above others, this is no way to live /b/ro

Negroes should be slaughtered.

>>744864674
we need a pit like sparta. throw all the nignogs in the pit problem solved

>>744863713
Pretty much but you forgot the "ayyye blood" part >>744863724
Only time I was getting my ass kicked was a random day in 11th grade.
Was talking to my friend a the bottom of a hill by the school. Facing my friend talking when 3 random nigger (not even from our school) walk past. One suddenly sucker punchs my friend from behind his head. Instantly the other two are throwing punchs on me. The other one starts going through my friends backpack and pockets. I kick him in the head and his on the ground. Other two guys are trying to knock my head off.
Suddenly I hear a skateboard coming down the hill. One of friends skating home passes by and sees me getting hit. He jumps off his board and smashes it into the head of one of the guys. Dude is out instantly. His other friend stops fighting me (talking shit but walking backwards).
From a car across the street two older blacks get out and drag the guy knocked out by the skateboard into the car. The guy who sucker punched my friend and got kneed by me is awake by now and got into the car . They just drove away. Never saw them again. Hopefully they died trying to gangbang.
>>744863845
One time it was Mexican like me. Told him I'm not fighting him over shoes nor cleaning his shit.

>>744856315
NOOOOOOOOOOOT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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>>744863746
Fuck socialism.

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>>744862273

>>744864872
I would.

>>744864829
>why do you get to grow food on a particular piece of land instead of somebody else?
This is radical democracies problem
>what's stopping someone from taking the food you grew because that's easier than growing it themselves?
Social punishment. The general rule is "do whatever you want just don't be a dick"
>on a large scale
"Do whatever you want just don't be a dick" is a general rule that is followed in a mutualist society. Now we are talking about doctirines and organization in anarchy and not about anarchy itself.

>>744864994
Sure kid

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>>744864104

Niggers with cheap ass sneakers that were not able to run fast enough...

>>744865080

>Moral pestle

>>744865164
u see 3 white ppl in this picture u stupid dipshit

>>744865204
I couldn't remember how to spell pedestal ATM and decided fuck it

>>744865224
>u see 3 white ppl in this picture u stupid dipshit

I see four niggers...

>>744862606
I like how he squeezes in to get by then just stands there at the doorway.

>>744865043
did you see the videos in this thread?
as soon as police are away, every nigger just starts taking shit
your "social punnishment" would only work if whites banded together to kill all the niggers
it might work, but it would definitely be a bloody war

>>744864872
Listen to you, you pathetic little insect. You aren't shit and you know it. It doesn't matter how you rationalize your bullshit, you're an insect. Like a cockroach running around on the ground, you'll be fine until you're noticed and then you'll get crushed because you're a loser, and nobody cares if you live or die except for the people who hate you which are numerous and they would see you dead without a second thought.

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>>744864872
lol. typical jibber jabber from a loser so idiotic they have to steal.

I hope you get put down sooner than later.

>>744861683
The loss of those items not being sold cuts into a store's profit, which in turn makes the corporate fuckheads cut the hours at the store due to a drop in profits. The corporate jackasses get paid the same no matter what since they are on a salary. The actual workers get fucked because hours get cut because of theft. This then leads to longer waits in line, which pisses off customers, who then go elsewhere to shop. Leading to even lower profits, leading to more cut hours.

>>744865358
niggers gunna nig.

>>744859830
What an intelligent looking bunch of guys. 3 of them don't even have normal names. And what the fuck is that in the bottom right? Shadow man. He is so fucking black he can't be photographed

>>744862871
>nigger crime is okay because wallstreet is worse
go get the laws changed retard, one thing is illegal the other isn't

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>>744859830
>happen to be black.

>>744858827
These niggers are carribbean fucks I can easily distinguish them from og african americans.

>>744865447
you know this for a fact or are you just making things up?

in case we are both making things up just assume they have insurance

>>744865345
No, nobody would be in a position of authority like the police. People have more than enough reason to talk shit to the police. The only people we would be banding together against are people like you. You probably wouldn't be killed in a civilized society but you would definitely be exiled or conform to libertarian principles.

>>744863199
Fuck right off. People have been saying the same shit for decades. It's not trumps fault racists excist you retard.

>>744865540
I have worked in multiple grocery stores. The main cause of profit loss in any store is customer theft. That is money that does not come back into the store, and it needs to be fixed somehow. The typical ways of doing this is higher prices, or cutting hours. Customers get pissed about both, and will change what stores they shop at when they've had enough, though the breaking point it different for each customer obviously.

Every store I've worked at the cuts in hours always started before the drop in sales. Sales would be the same, yet profits would be down, so it obviously came from theft.

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>>744863850
Holy shit, you are NOT an anarchist. Do you even understand what that means?
Please, explain. Explain and further reveal your ignorance.
Idiots like you play a zero-sum game where you believe that for one person to prosper means that they did so at the expense of another. You're a goddamned Post-Modernist and a Marxist. You are entitled to EVERYTHING you can attain through the Non-Aggression Principle. It doesn't matter if you accumulate a plethora of wealth to the degree that you don't know what to do with it.
Success and ownership of all that it yields is yours and it is NOT oppression of those who are deprived or have lost.

>>744865447
This wouldn't surprise me and if you read the post you would know that I
i) don't go inside corporate stores whenever possible(I have a greenhouse and garden and am lucky enough to have access to farmers markets and food cooperatives)
ii) I only shop in nice stores in rich neighborhoods (where people aren't as likely to shoplift often enough to be noticed)when I do
iii) I only steal petty shit, mostly because it is entertaining.

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>>744862846
You mean loafers of bread. Kekek bdmtsss!

>>744865043
When you have to reach this hard...


Look kid, under no circumstances will this nonsense actually work in the real world. Though we all need the same sorts of things to survive, we don't all work at the same level to secure them. That's a fundamental truth of human beings. Therefore there will always be some people who will choose to steal the work product of others rather than produce their own.

So fuck off and all that.

>>744866065
you can tell this picture is old because the officer is chasing him with a baton instead of just shooting him

>>744866053
I've worked in stores in good neighborhoods and stores that aren't in bad, but aren't good ones per say. In both cases theft was an issue, and race was not a factor in if someone shoplifted. I've noticed though that white people try to steal a shit ton of stuff at once, while blacks usually would try to steal only a few items at a time.

>>744856569
His name was Robert Paulson

>>744857183
sounds good to me
Much rather everyone have it shit than five people have it like kings while millions live like sewer rats

>>744866009
I'm definitely not a po-mo or a Marxist
Do you have any facts to go along with these propositions?
>ne person to prosper means that they did so at the expense of another
I do not believe this, i believe it is wrong for people to prosper at the exspense of others. Let's take California for example, the thousands of miles of orchards and farms in the valley are own by just a few people and corporations. They employ thousands of people to work on those farms for minimum wage. Not only are those workers not entitled to the fruit of their labor, they are not entitled to live without paying rent for food and water. Furthermore industrial agriculture is making them go without running water and has an extreme ecological impact that hurts everyone(negative externalities) All of this would be different if they where allowed to posses the means of production they already use, there is plenty of food, water, and land to go around. This isn't happening because a few entities that don't even work have exclusive legal ownership of the means of production. Property is theft to all who are deprived.

>>744862751
Hockey related, not one black person.

>>744866397
If you are poor in America then you live better than 98% of all the human beings who have ever lived.

>>744866634
exactly
five kings, and millions living like sewer rats!

>>744866536
Those people who own the land and equipment didn't just wake up one day with the deed on their kitchen table from the property fairy.

They worked for it. More successful farmers bought the land of less successful ones. Slowly, companies formed to manage these large agricultural holdings.

The problem with redistributing the "means of production" in the way you seem to want is that you forget that someone, somewhere, worked for what they have and that taking it from them is morally wrong.

>>744866765
Have a look at how people have lived in socialist countries. It's worse.

>>744860919
This time around Venezuela got fucked by Saudi oil dumping, the raghead king could afford to give away oil for less than cost because they wanted to hurt Russia (sanctions) and Canada oil sands.

>>744866397
You're an idiot. You're the perfect example of how people can never be equal. An insect like you will always end up in the lower classes because you're simply inferior.

The fact is that the quality of life someone leads is largely up to them. You probably live like a fucking sewer rat compared to me and it's because you can't imagine life any other way, loser. People who are successful are successful because they are intelligent people.

How smart do you have to be to steal something from a store? You don't need anything but hands and feet. That should tell you something about yourself. It doesn't matter what color your skin is, you're a stupid fucking nigger at heart and you'll never amount to anything.

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>>744866245
>>>744866065 (You)
>you can tell this picture is old because the officer is chasing him with a baton instead of just shooting him

>>744866536
You sound delusional. All you communist idiots live in a fantasy of dependence. At some point, someone actually has to develop all that infrastructure. You're like those stupid niggers in Africa who imagine if they're in control it'll be paradise and instead they drive out the people who can actually create and accomplish and they are left destitute.

>>744866917
ah of course, now I'm a nigger advocating for stealing, living like a sewer rat, because I don't like capitalism.

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>>744856315
Facts are racist.

>>744866536
>All of this would be different if they where allowed to posses the means of production they already use

And they are more than welcome to own the means of production, except they DONT. Someone else already does, moron, and they manage it a million times better than a bunch of farm hands who don't know anything about the big picture except their singular small tasks.

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Keep in mind, this topic is on the United States' media. Insurance companies have disaster clauses. Plus all that food is going to go bad anyway. White people loot shit all the time, but when anyone else does it, they're a parasite. When someone talks about ransacking a business, they aren't talking about your cutesy "ma-and-pa" shop. Just board up, you aren't a target.

>>744867036
Well, if you sleep with dogs, you get fleas.

There's nothing wrong with capitalism. In case you missed it competition is the natural order of life on the planet and the driving force of evolution and progress for everything on the entire planet.

Competition isn't some artifact of capitalism. Are you delusional?

>>744866788
This is why private ownership of property is wrong to begin with, it causes societies to startisfy into economic classes.
>The problem with redistributing the "means of production" in the way you seem to want is that you forget that someone, somewhere
That isn't what is happening now, I go to college with the trustafarians that inherit and prosper from that property, they do not work at all. You seem to ignore the fact that this is not what is happening now, and are defending injustice and economic hegemony over the people doing the work today because someone worked in the past.
I believe that the people doing the work should be the only ones profiting from the work that they do, do you disagree?

>>744867135
Fuck you. Don't steal stuff.

If you know a hurricane is coming then stock up beforehand. Waiting until a business is flooded to go in and take whatever you want isn't surviving, it's stealing.

The only thing those people deserve is a bullet.

>>744867135
Oh so you speak for all looters now, right? Go to hell you useless nigger.

>>744867135
They didn't take bread. The niggers stole shoes. It's not the same thing.

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>>744867074

There are many facts the liberal media will NEVER report....

Where's Lootie yo?

>>744861566
Topkek. Best picture of the thread !

>>744867298
>The only thing those people deserve is a bullet.

Pretty much this. They live in a culture that makes them think they are justified in their criminal acts. The only reasonable education tool left is a firearm.

>>744865507
Nice defense of slavery, klanmonkey.

>>744856988
What should have been done immediately following the Civil War.

>>744867266
Even if they inherited their wealth, their forebears worked for it. You don't get to steal from them because you want what they have, that's a child's mentality.

I think that the people doing the work should negotiate for a beneficial arrangement that provides for their needs. If pay is too low, strike until it's higher. If conditions are too harsh, organize and unionize until you can control conditions for workers better. But no, you can't outright steal someone's property from them.

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>>744867135
looting nike shoes and taking foot is not the same.

I'll tell you where the US fucked up. Giving niggers the right to vote was fucking retarded.

It's like making a constitutional amendment that cattle should have a right to vote.

>>744867115
>someone else already owns it
"It's okay to for some people to own everything at the exspense of everyone else as long as the law says it's okay" how can you "own" land that you neither work nor live on? Absentee ownership is theft and only exists because the legal construct of private ownership of property allows it. Legality is not equatable to morality.
>they manage it a million times better than a bunch of farm hands who don't know anything about the big picture
Bullshit, the only management is centered around profit margins. This is at great exspense to the works and the sustainablity of our society.

>>744857183
You could probably start to cut off welfare for niggers, so they could start to work.

>>744867477
Intelligent response

>>744867511
You sound retarded. Do you even know what the tragedy of the commons is? You're delusional.

>>744867436
What a load of bullshit, who cares if they worked in the past? They would never have the deed to all that land if the strong arm of the law didn't allow them to have private ownership of it.
>you can't outright steal someone's property from them.
Tell that to the Native Americans that possessed that land before settlers stole the land through legal fuckery.

>>744867115
Dont? Or can't? Because they can't buy the means of production because they're poor and the person who owns them wants to keep milking then for profit.

>>744860318
he's right tho...

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>>744867298
What about the people who are too poor to evacuate or stock up completely? We should let 'em die right?

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>>744867511
You're right, communists are historically great at managing agricultural production. I don't see what everyone is getting upset about.

>>744867074
why are spics not on the list?

>>744867663
lol, it's like you think everyone is a dependent child who will buy into your mindless fantasy world.

Do you have any idea how badly most people are with money? Most people drive themselves into debt as soon as possible at the first opportunity. It's only a handful of people that can really understand and manipulate the system to their benefit, and they should be rewarded fro their intelligence, and not some drunk drug abuser who can't keep bread on the table because he's too busy chasing bullshit.

Did you ever stop to consider that maybe the people who own the means of production, do so for a good reason? You're a fucking idiot if you really believe everyone is equal. look around you.

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>faggots looting
>/Pol/ goes apeshit
>It's happening.exe

>>744857183
Don't even bother arguing with these retarded socialists. They will never understand that their system doesn't work.

>>744867755
>What if they're too poor?

They were going to buy food either way right? Whether there was a storm or not they were going to eat. So they can afford food.

If they're genuinely homeless or too poor to afford food, then go to where they're distributing rations, go to a shelter.

>>744863366
we are talking about looting here.
If everyone in this thread would respond with a different subject like you ala:
"But what about X!1!!!!11"
then we can just stop trying to talk about anything.

Stay on subject. That is 101 of having a discussion.
If you don't do that it either means you are not interested in the subject or you actively want to manipulate.

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>>744867352
>Topkek. Best picture of the thread !

Full pic

>>744867611
>do you even know what the tragedy of the communs is?
Yes, it was a baseless proposition with no factual evidence, made by land owners in feudal Europe to rationalize their economic hegemony over the peasants that provided them with wealth through hard labor.
It's a complete meme, all evidence points otherwise. Look at traditional fisheries where fishermen corporate to sustainably manage them and industrial fisheries that overexploit the fishery as fast as possible to maximize profits, leave it in ruin, then go on to the next.

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>>744867530
It will not happen because the democrats are using welfare to control the black votes.

>>744867368
>i am so uncivilized that i have to pillage the stores of hardworking citizens while crying about wallstreet oppression
you are subhuman scum, the people that suffer under your "righteous" fight against the bourgeois are normal people who suffer the same under wallstreet.
you are that nigger that kills a random white person because muh slavery even though that white person never had or even wanted any slaves

>>744867758
The anarcho-communists have. There is no way the Soviet Union or Maoist china meet the requirements for 'communism' they used communist as a buzzword for the PR appeal. anyhow, I'm not a communist in any sense of the word nor am I advocating for communism.
>tldr
Wew lad

>>744867849
Yes, that person who inherited the means of production are going to be as or more intelligent than the person who created that wealth.

-no one ever

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Only the shit bags are looting. not normal people, niggers, inbred whites, spics, wops, and ect.

>>744867654
Please suggest something other than private land ownership that incentivizes people not to trash property and let it rot since they'll just go move to another property when they're done shitting up the place.

>>744867908
100 years of historical records say the opposite. "Worker run" (read: state run) factories and agricultural collectives are almost always less efficient, conditions for workers are almost always worse, and compensation is non-existent, provided either as rations or as money with no value, preventing trade and accumulation.

>>744867908
>all evidence points otherwise

No, actually, you are wrong. All evidence points to exactly what is suggested by the theory, and it can be seen in practice almost anywhere resources begin to get scarce.

Look at Florida for fuck's sake, you idiot. Those companies aren't even "commons" but they couldn't keep water on the shelves because people are greedy and take more than they think they will need to be sure. That's PEOPLE doing it to each other, not some mythical monolithic "CAPITALIST SUPERCORP" or whatever the fuck you imagine in your demented delusions.

And "traditional" fisheries do exactly the same thing as "industrial" fisheries, just at different rates and more efficiently, so your false equivocation is meaningless.

>>744867908
FALSE

>>744867863
They can choose to starve to death in a shelter with "rations", or they can be environmentally conscious and eat the perishable foods in a grocery store that are already marked as "losses" before the storm even hit.

Have you ever been in a shelter? It gets crazy, especially the white people.

>>744867074
Kek, you don't even know how every level of the criminal justice system is racist. Black men get brought in instead of let go, charged higher, higher bail, worse defense, prejudice in juries, longer sentencing and worse job prospects when let out. That chart is basically racism.jpg

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>>744867821
>why are spics not on the list?

Many crime statics mix spics in with whites in order to make black crime look better. They have stopped doing that recently since they got caught.

>>744857980
Hahahahah dumb nigger

>>744868096
Personal possession
In your home, do you shit on the floor?
Do you start fires? Do you rope the wires out of the wall and take it to the scrap-yard?
No, you don't. People take care of what provides for them.
>just move to the next place
It doesn't work like this, you can't just up and move to a new place because you can't just buy new land.

>>744868158
>state run
Then it is completely irrelevant to the point I'm making. I advocate for workers self-management.

>>744868249
>Arguing for private property for me

Thanks

>>744868221
Yes, but every single one of those black offenders still made a choice to commit a crime. Nobody forced them to steal that TV or shoot the guy in rival colors.

If your looting food that would spoil in the storm anyway, and ypu need it to survive then loot that's fair enough. If your looting a TV and an x box then I have no pity when the owner shoots you.

>>744868096
Please suggest something other than private land ownership to convince people to work for 90% off there life

>>744867135
that is your opinion and it is wrong.

And if you come in my area and loot you will experience reality and my opinion which is backed by law.

spoiler: it's a gun

>>744862325
>coover

The whitest and trashiest of the white trash

>>744868304
How do you reward workers in your system who work harder, stay longer, or show more aptitude?

Do you pay them more? If you do then they begin to accumulate capital. They're going to want to own their home, own some land, maybe even start their own business.

What do you do about that pesky human inclination toward accumulation?

>>744868390
Id rather be cop hunting than looting tbh

>>744868304
> I advocate for workers self-management.

The owners already work on their company, and they already own it, so self-management is already a reality in capitalism.

What you are imagining is an untenable fantasy rooted most likely in your irrational understanding of the material reality on this planet..

>>744868450
>what do you do about that pesky human inclination toward accumulation?

you have socialism and communism.

>>744862063
Savages.

>>744856569
SHOW BOBS

>>744862063
Niggers gonna nig.

>>744868304
Workers' self-management also doesn't work, because the guy picking oranges doesn't know how to get them to market. The guy stocking oranges at Wal-Mart doesn't know how they got there. If you let those people manage their company's as a collective, they're going to be inefficient.

>>744856569
Bob had bitchtits .

>>744867858
this

>>744868333
Every white teen who commits a crime but gets let go because "boys will be boys", daddy golfs with the da, he can afford a good lawyer, "he has such potential, let's not ruin his future over a youthful indescresion", deferred sentencing and diversion programs chose to commit their crime too. They actually commit more crimes because they know they can get away with it.

>>744863205
http://globalnews.ca/news/533011/stanley-cup-riot-london-drugs-sues-looters-for-a-total-of-50000/


Hey guys, not looting guys durrr we were just partying cause the team lost guys.

Durrrrrr

>>744868515
>socialism and communism

Which... don't work, have never worked, can never work.

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>>744867821
when comes to crimes, spics are classify as whites.

>>744868184
>And "traditional" fisheries do exactly the same thing as "industrial" fisheries, just at different rates and more efficiently,
This is wrong, I know it is wrong because I am an ecosystem scientist. Socio-ecological systems tend towards steady states, industrial systems tend towards unending exploitation because they have externalized the ecological world.
>Those companies aren't even "commons" but they couldn't keep water on the shelves because people are greedy and take more than they think they will need to be sure
Exactly they aren't commons, if people owned their own water they would not use more than is sustainable, assuming they have rational self-interest. This example supports my argument, that water was privatized.
Look at water use in California droughts, the people don't use so much water and they all suffer because the large industrial orchards can't be bothered to do anything other than maximize profits by continuing to grow as many avocados as possible. This holds true to the droughts in Kenya as well, people growing crops for the international market grow corn or cotton reguardless of the amount of water it takes and substance farmers will plant millet and other drought tolerant crops.

>>744868450
You don't, because holy fuck why should we reward the idiotic work until you die shit capitalism has infected this country with?

>>744868678
I don't think there are a lot of white teens out there doing driveby's on the rival coke dealer.

There's a lot of difference between some white kid who spraypaints a wall and murder.

>>744868798
So every worker in the collective gets paid the same? What incentive is there to work hard then?

Gun owners love looting pics. Makes their trigger finger itch and swells their kill gland. Makes them look to the sky and scream, "lololololololololo" as they thump their chest and empty a clip at the sky gods -- all while frothing at the mouth and mumbling, "guns good."

>>744868450
>How do you reward workers in your system who work harder, stay longer, or show more aptitude?
Radical democracy
>capital
Wouldn't exist, money may or may not exist.
>They're going to want to own their home, own some land, maybe even start their own business.
They don't need money to do that, they are already entitled to do that as a right.
>What do you do about that pesky human inclination toward accumulation?
This is not contradictory, it's actually beneficial.

>>744868809
Kek. "I can't imagine pure white ubermench committing crimes, thus from first principles I have concluded that they don't. Now let me tell you about the negro problem..."

>>744868481
Workers self management widely exists already
>owner
Wew

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>>744868728
>when comes to crimes, spics are classify as whites.

In liberal places they can really get desperate trying to make whites look bad...

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>>744868713

>>744868809
nigger gang shit aside, blacks will go to jail infinitely more often for same offense. Though thanks to retarded liberals, that's starting to change.

It's illegal to show niggers being niggers. It's literally illegal to call a spade a spade.

>>744868597
>Workers' self-management also doesn't work, because the guy picking oranges doesn't know how to get them to market
Explain farmers markets and food cooperatives, workers self management for agriculture as worked for 10,000 years. Corporate management is destroying the land that allows food to be produced

Man, I really like these utopic "every single guy behaves like a mix of Gandhi and Mother Teresa, don't lie, cheat, steal nor murder and always tries his best helping everybody" socialist paradises. What could go wrong?

>>744868958
So where are all these white street gangs then? I can't say I've ever heard of them.

Crips and Bloods and MS13 on the other hand...

>>744859830
That shit happened here in NOLA. A lot of us were hoping that they would be hung from a tree.

>>744868958

This is pure liberal fallacies. Look at how you rely on theories rather than facts : this is why you're so wrong.

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>>744856315
It's technically not looting, since blacks invented nearly everything we use in modern life today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V09iYlO5poQ

>>744868914
>Radical democracy
How is radical democracy a reward for working harder?

Sure, promoting them to a position of authority is all well and good, but then they're working even harder... and still for no material gain.

>They don't need money to do that, they are already entitled to do that as a right.
You're for the abolition of private property but you maintain that people can own homes, land, and businesses? That seems contradictory.

>>744868769
False.

And

False.


Blankly so. As in, are you even serious you fucking idiot? Or more like: How can you be so delusional about reality?

In places in Africa where the people kicked out the white farmers, they were left in ruin because none of them were fit to run a fucking thing, let alone their whole country. People are not equal by nature and that's what you will eventually need to understand unless you just love your ignorance.

>>744868961
Yeah, we see how well that works in Africa where they kill each other for scraps and literally eat rats because they are too incompetent to run the farms the way the real owners did.

>>744869289
If they work harder everyone including them benefits, actually all the workers only have incentive to work as hard and efficiently as possible(assuming rational self-interest) because they are the only ones making a profit, they aren't paid a wage.

>>744863011
They were tired after all that looting and needed a well deserved nap.

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>>744869336

>>744863432
I'll bet Spacely has a robot drill him in the ass every night.

>>744869093
>farmers markets and food co-ops

Those don't work on the nationwide scale that agriculture does now. Without the massive supply chain currently in existence, there's no way that Florida oranges and California lettuce are going to make it onto a table in New York in January.

Devolving the system back into smallholding farmers or collectivized agriculture is going to cause famines, just like everywhere else it has been attempted.

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>>744869336
>In places in Africa where the people kicked out the white farmers
I kek every time.

>>744867858
The vast majority are teenage kids trying to be edgy and counterculture. It's like, literally the same shit in every generation, except today they have the internet so they form little clubs where they imagine their view is real and unquestioned.

>>744869483

i didn't know a bigger, easier to read version of >>744869451 existed.

>>744869336
>these things are false because I declare it
How about a factual argument.
>In places in Africa where the people kicked out the white farmers, they were left in ruin because none of them were fit to run a fucking thing, let alone their whole country.
I was talking about Kenya, you are thinking of South Africa. btw that /pol/ meme that goes around about South Africa is a completely retarded way to inform yourself. I am dealing with facts, you are dealing with memes.
>racist
>is this irrational and uninformed
Whoda, thunk it?

>>744869451
>>744869483
See >>744869607

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>>744869585
The ride never ends.

>>744869164
> doesn't know anything
> revels in ignorance
> spoon feed me, anon
> niggers are the real problem, not my dumbass

>>744869395
I must be talking to two different people, because on the one hand you seem to oppose private ownership of property but on the other you say that working harder to turn a profit for the collective will benefit all.

You're just going in circles. If they work hard and turn a profit as a collective that's okay, but not as individuals? That's just capitalism with friends.

>>744869690

damn, everyone is bringing stuff to the table today.

>>744860396
found the nigger

>>744869780
>niggers are the real problem

Good, at least we can agree on something.

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>>744869780
>Asserts that blacks and whites commit murder at the same rate of incidence
>Provides no evidence to support this claim
>Decries DOJ justice stats as 'racist'
>Can't prove his argument

>>744864214

d-d-dad?

>>744869467
>those don't work on a nation wide scale
Because corporations took their job, they still work but they have been systematically pushed into the background by corporate command-economies that are less efficient logistically and farmers markets imporve communities and bring economic good to the parcticipants while the corporate model funnels all the wealth produced to the elites in charge.
>make it onto a table in New York in January.
I don't see why not. It's not like our existing infrastructure that allows for that would suddenly disappear with the corporations that currently occupy it.

>>744864695
That's not how the normal force works, my nigga. Good luck with that 'quick step'. Forward momentum + backwards torque applied to the bottom = spinning punch to the face from the floor, everytime.

>>744864214

Niggers....... half the time their stealing, and the other half of the time they're taking shit that ain't theirs.

>>744869607
I haven't seen you deal with any facts yet, actually, but you're welcome to start.

>>744869797
Do you even know what capitalism is?

>>744868965
>wont even cite the database

>>744869970
So what happens to the corporate class and the owners of property in your world view?

Executed? Or just disenfranchised and left in poverty?

>>744870022
I have many fact based arguments about the droughts in California and Kenya, and about fisheries(see Newfoundland, west Africa, Southeast Asia for examples there is a huge body of literature.

>>744870088
Disenfranchised and left like everyone else. That doesn't mean poverty at all, everyone else is poor as a result of their current economic hegemony

>>744870042
At its most basic, capitalism is free and voluntary exchange.

I work a job. I make money. I invest that money until I have enough to start my own business. I hire workers to increase my productivity. Those workers make a wage. The business grows, I put up more locations, hire more workers, make more money... repeat ad infinitum.

Why, what do you think it is?

>>744870217
Honestly if you came for my livelihood like that I would kill you. Returning to my original statement: you can't just fucking steal from people.

>>744869907
I'm sorry, stormfront, I thought I was on 4chan not a scientific panel. I'll strive to produce the documentation you will ignore while shit posting until the inevitable 404.
It's not hard to educate yourself, but don't expect random anons to do it for you. Continue letting your masters milk you of every ounce of profit while telling you the real enemy is melanin.

>>744869780
lol, if you only knew how ridiculous you look making a fool of yourself arguing against literal facts. You live in delusion.

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>>744856315

>>744861683
and when you end up in prison we'll still be paying for our shit

>>744870244
That's a market economy and is completely possible in socialist economies(without the banks and wages) Capitalism is profiting from privatized((legal ownership(not necessarily personal possession) means of production(capital)

>>744870141
So far I've seen you draw made up conclusions from your own data, so whenever you want to compile an essay let me know so I can help criticize it for you.

>>744870317
Good thing you aren't a fucking corporation. I want you to be the sole controller of your livelihood and no one else's

>>744870353

>steals expensive sneakers to run fast
>still won't pull up pants to allow himself to run fast

>>744870337
I'm phone posting from a hurricane zone, where everyone of every skin color is working together to clean up the mess. You're sitting in your basement masturbaiting to A. Whitt Mann cartoons. I don't have PDFs on hand, but you have Google. I'm clearly the retarded one here.

>>744856315
CAUTION!
Beware of buying new sneakers on EekBay, Coonslist or FaceSpook.

>>744870455
What you want is impossible.

Look, pretentious manchildperson. You must understand that some people can't even take care of themselves, right? Some people need constant care because they are frankly inferior. You can acknowledge this fact of life right?

Then how can you possibly even imagine your personal delusion about everyone being in control of themselves and nothing more? Some people have to be in control of a lot more than just their own livelihood, because many people can't take care or control themselves.

>>744870547
You're an idiot, dude. Come off it. Grow up. Look around you and realize that nobody is equal you deluded sucker.

>>744870427
>>744870427
I have read butttons of relevant literature like this
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/325/5939/419