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Revelation 13:16-17

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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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Revelation 13:16-17
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>>744788685
he gets it
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>>744788756
"The chip is not trackable and only contains information you choose to associate with it,"

What's wrong with taking ideas from the bible? It's how I learned sodomy after all.
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>>744787949
Yes. That's fucking attached to the back of his head.
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>>744789144
that you know of
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Hint: The Bible is bullshit.
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>16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave,[a] to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Where on the chip does it say 666?
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>>744789352
you have your belief i have mine
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>>744789549
Mine just happens to be demonstrable.
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>>744789549
How does that make your ideas correct.
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>>744789486
>the name of the beast OR
how do you know it doesn't have both?
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>>744789486
In its programming?? its whatever where they can put it hide it whatever
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>>744787949
Nanomachines, son.
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>>744789643
it doesnt it just means i have my beliefs and you have yours
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>>744789318
>>744789549
>>744789624
>>744789643
>>744789780
the point is if it can identify you for purchases then it's trackable. it doesn't fucking matter if you associate nothing with it, it's core function is to identify you, without that it's just a bit of glass.

it's just a good thing we don't have a devious orator in a position of power, I mean thank god obama is gone, am I right?
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>>744789850
this
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>>744789850
Yeah I don't trust state anywhere near enough to let them chip me.
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>>744789850
It's just a chip in a bit of glass, like your credit card or your ID. It can't be tracked unless you have a huge amount of receivers distributed through all the city.
You could fry it if you wanted with an electromagnetic pulse.

Now, when the state forces you to implement it, then it's fucked up, because you don't have the option to remain anonymous.
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>>744789686
Well that's no mark on the, "right hand, or the forehead"
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>>744790271
The state wont have to force it not when society does the job for them
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>>744790271
>It can't be tracked
except... every time you swipe it for any purpose? also what the fuck do you think those door scanners at EVERY FUCKING STORE do?

jesus christ are you seriously this retarded?
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>>744790460
yeah mark on the forehead, how stupid would that be
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>>744790271
it can be tracked. GPS isnt the only form of tracking
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>>744789486

666 is the first, middle and last number on a barcode
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>>744787949
whoever does not wear the mark of the beast will not make any money.
the mark shall be implemented in each and every human. it will be fixed underneath the skin of the left hand.
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>>744790676

Off by one
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>>744787949
Fuckin religatards. Neck yourself and help evolution out
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>>744787949
For the lazy:

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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>>744790577
>18 This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.

There isn't even a name or number on that hat.
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>>744790773
we are just having a conversation you are welcome to join in? If not why come into a thread like this???
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>>744790898
>doesn't even have a name
you're telling me that that hat, red, MAGA, doesnt' instantly make you think of trump?
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>>744790617
Please elaborate.
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>>744791100
jesus christ do they teach millenials nothing these days
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>>744791100
Credit cards are tracked by purchase it can tell you were you purchased and what you purchased. How do you think the police know where you are if you use a credit card and its last location you used it when they are lookung for someone?
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>>744790472
I want to believe society is not that stupid, but then again most of Americans want Assange arrested. Maybe in other country where people aren't that retarded.
>>744790517
>except... every time you swipe it for any purpose?
So does your credit card. ID card, bus card, subway card, and all the other cards you use. That thing only combines them into a tiny vial under your skin, no fucking difference, you can get tracked anyway.
>also what the fuck do you think those door scanners at EVERY FUCKING STORE do?
Those are for scanning theft tags, they don't even use the same technology or work at the same frequency.
>jesus christ are you seriously this retarded?
I'm an EE, I probably know more about this that you do.

>>744790617
>it can be tracked
Those chips have no power source, there must be an antenna sending power into them and another one to receive the signal. The range is usually a couple of feet, so you would need thousands of those trackers all over a city, and you could disable the thing if you wanted.
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>>744791210
OP shows an image of an RFID chip, which carries no power source and will operate at distances in the order of centimetres near a reader.
I'm asking how you propose it would be tracked

Come on I'm really bored at least give me a plausible or at least amusing answer
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>>744791082
Think of yes but the verse clearly reads, unlike you, "he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name."
So unless Make American Great Again is a number we are not rapidly approaching the biblical end times.
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>>744791366
>need thousands of those trackers all over a city
>thousands
>all over
>all over
>all over

like... everytime you went in an out a building?
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>>744787949
i think the bibol is a giant ass fucking bucket of piss
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>>744791531
>>744791366
>Those chips have no power source, there must be an antenna sending power into them and another one to receive the signal. The range is usually a couple of feet, so you would need thousands of those trackers all over a city, and you could disable the thing if you wanted.

Bar codes have no power source, credit cards have no power source yet you can scan them the RFID chip can work the same way without a power source
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>>744791531
>how you propose it would be tracked
because why would you get the chip if not to use it and every time you use it and every other RFID reading fucking thing fucking this >>744791607

they have RFID systems for your truck bed, and tons of other stuff they're incredibly cheap and already everywhere
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>>744791670
Well good job saying what I didn't I suppose

So you're saying that a large organisation would track usages of these?
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>>744791607
Again, those are used for theft tags, they don't use the same technology or even the same frequency, so one of those would not be able to read the chip inside your arm.
>>744791670
The point is they don't have a power source, so their signal is so weak the range is only a couple of feet, making it difficult for someone to unknowingly track you around without a lot of equipment.
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>>744787949
the idea is there, needs improvement
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>>744792013
>The point is they don't have a power source, so their signal is so weak the range is only a couple of feet, making it difficult for someone to unknowingly track you around without a lot of equipment.

Have you have seen a chipped credit/debit card? What do you do when you wanna buy something with it? You place it in the slot correct?

>>744791987
How does credit cards work? Every single store you wanna buy something in uses credit card scans correct? When you look online at what you bought its already on your bank aaccount
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>>744791987
are you saying you don't think Amazon and Google would be all over that shit?

I mean do you know anything about directed advertising? Do you know some of the funny shit about Target even? Are you really this asleep or are you just bored?
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>>744792480
>Every single store you wanna buy something in
you've never been to colorado have you
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>>744787949
MARK OF THE BEAST! MARK OF THE BEAST! CAN'T NEITHER BUY NOR SELL WITHOUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST!

This theory brought to you by noted theologians Hal Lindsay and Jean Dixon.
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Soon mein niggers. Soon
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>>744792583
I have not but you get the what im trying to say
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bitcoin = cashless society
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>>744792732
so do credit cards, I mean as long as the tech is in place to support either
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>>744792732
bitcoin will never become main stream it will never be big
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>>744792978
but the idea is there
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>>744792480
>>744792523
Well, I take it that's a yes to my question.

I'm not saying I disagree. It's perfectly plausible, probable even.


Are we to assume that the chips in question are standardised and widely issued, used for payments?
The present situation of these is limited to amateurs using them for things like unlocking doors and the like. They have't figured out payments, the banks are rather careful with that sort of thing.
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>>744792978
Its there but think of it this way as cashless

bitcoin new currency
or
being chip with the same currency

what would society choose
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>>744793344
Companies are starting to use these as a first gen microchip

look at the iphone you can use an iphone as a credit card look how many genrations it took them to so this.
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10 years from now when they are 1/20 the size.
Able to be put into food/drink, latches onto your stomach, or goes into your bloodstream. Tracked for ads, purchases, behavior, everything.
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>>744793710
I think there's still a significant change in general social attitude needed before chipping becomes commonplace. Hell, loads of people kicked up a fuss when a vending machine company offered chips for their employees to unlock machines with, despite it being totally voluntary.

I suppose there's a bit of a disconnect in attitude between an item that one carries all the time and an item actually inside the body. Practically speaking it doesn't really make much sense, but I think it's definitely there.
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>>744792480
>You place it in the slot correct?
I swipe it over the reader. Since my card uses RFID. I need to place it a couple cm avobe the reader due the limited range.
Taking that RFID chip in my credit card and putting it into my arm wouldn't change anything, I would still be tracked. If I wanted not to be tracked I would go to the bank and take 500€ in cash every month to buy groceries and clothes.
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>>744793420
being chiped with same currency then that being replaced with bitcoin
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>>744794497
Im just gonna use credit cards as a common ref, but look how long it took for everyone and their mother to use them not tht long. The process for getting them got easier etc and look how fast credit card readers became a thing
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>>744787949
it's a long way to this but the technology is being set for it
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>>744794697
what i was getting at is the RFID has no power yet is able to be read
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RFID chip will be hacked anyway, so I can add a lot of money.
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>>744789643
> How does demonstrating your ideas are true make them correct?
Fuck, got one as dumb as Jordan Peterson here.
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All possible thanks to the World Wide Web

Gamma = 3
Digamma (W) = 2×3 = 6
WWW = 666

>“the land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider’s web” which many have linked to telephone and internet communication.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/712528/APOCALYPSE-WARNING-Tribe-world-WILL-END-native-american

>>744794497
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14589-mexicans-get-microchipped-over-kidnapping-fears/
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>>744795177
Magnetic strips have no power source. They still work. Drop it, reeree.
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>>744795454
That's not what I was refuting you illiterate mongoliod. The Argument of who I repleing to was, "You have your ideas, I have mine."
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>>744795771
Fun fact: the oldest preserved manuscript that mentions the number of the beats has it documented as 616, not 666.
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>>744795900
Thats my point????? I was having a conversation with someone that said it wouldnt work bc there is no power to be read a signal????????? So I dont get what you dont get

We are saying the same thing dont reeree on me
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>>744796124
>"you illiterate mongoloid"
>"The argument of who I repleing to"
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>>744796190
Funner factd: That was ONE instance interpreted by ONE guy, wasn't proven to be the oldest record and in order to alter the general consensus, you would have to throw out thousands of years of scholarship as if they didn't know how to read.
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>>744796190
And beyond that the verses in Revelations never say that the mark of the beast will be anymore than the number of the beast or his name on your right hand or forehead.
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>>744796506
I never claimed to be literate
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>>744796291
Linked the wrong postser, my bad.
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>>744796556
>and his number is six, threescore and six
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>>744796777
>OR
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Deuteronomy 22:8
"When thou buildest a new house, then thou shalt make a battlement for thy roof, that thou bring not blood upon thine house, if any man fall from thence."
That dumb book also gives practical health and safety advice for the construction of flat roofs.
You are going to hell unless you have a fence or wall around the edge of any flat roof you have.
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>>744795771
Alternatively, miniature, implantable generators can be used to power the chips.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wearable_generator

You could also theorize that the usage of simple watch batteries (or smaller versions) are also viable options, able to be replaced through a minimally invasive procedure. Solar recharging is another option.
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>>744796832
What if his name IS a number?
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>>744797190
Something tells me the hreat of hell didn't apply to this sort of thing...
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>>744797425
>number of the beast or his name

There wouldnt be an or
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>>744797252
doesn't the brain give off electric pulses?
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>>744789144
So is your cell phone and your debit card. Gay tech shit for queer nerds.
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>>744795177
But the range is shit, if you want to track somebody unknowingly you're going to have a hard time.
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>>744797605
It does and blood carries those same pulses
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>>744797660
>what do credit/debit cards do
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>>744787949
>they don't even know it's the smart phones, tap cards and social media
Good goys. Keep playing like children.
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>>744797691
so then it could power a chip
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>>744797562
Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned to Love the Bomb

The word "or" isn't only used to denote two mutually exclusive options. If you were to state the name of an organism, for example, you could say, "the Psilocybin Cubensis or magic mushroom" to refer to the same thing in multiple ways.
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>>744797875
You have a point
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>>744797605
>>744797691
Clever. And what if- stay with me on this- what if... blood turbines?
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>>744798041
i thought the same also
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>>744789486
Its talking about jews being forced to use roman currency, which had a stamp of the roman emperor on each coin, who was god-like. it was blasphemy to them
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>>744795771
In the world of computing, every company has a "vendor code" in Hexadecimal. intel a powerful and also Israeli Jewish company has the vendor code of 0x6F6

>tip; F = 6th letter
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>>744798294
>jews being forced
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>>744797561
Good to know that you know what god really meant.
Thems the rules faggot. Either he meant them to be followed or just wrote them for a larp.
If you have ever eaten pork or shellfish, you are also hell bound,
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>>744798325
Didn't Intel do the Jew tattoos?
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>>744798294
History repeats itself for those who fail to learn from it.
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>>744798325
Katy Perry lyrics

Fresh, Fine, Fierce we got it on lock. You'll take notice that she is kicking the triple F's, she could have used any other letter for other, better words but chose the F.

>Six, six, six we got it on lock
You certainly do you illuminati cunt.
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>>744798553
Have you ever eaten parasite-ridden meat, which pork and shellfish are known for? Shit is hell.

And no. You don't know any better than anyone else with your bad daddy routine.
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You know why cryptic prophecies are stupid and pointless? Because they could mean any number of things and you can't actually prepare for whatever they are predicting. They just make people paranoid over anything that even remotely looks like it could fit the prophecy. You would think the "creator" of the world could have made his instructions a little more clear, but he's the kind of guy that gives you a cake recipe and you can't tell if you need to use eggs, testicles or eyeballs.
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>>744796190
>>744796777
>>744796832
>>744796518
it has to do with the number of dank golds King Solomon got like two(?) years in a row im p sure
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>>744798939
Global rule is always a bad thing, whether it's the AntIchrist or not. We'd have nowhere to run when shtf
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>>744798881
In 1500 years from now when archaologists discover a manuscript that says "Never ever drive distracted or you will die!", some literal idiot will force it as a religion and force people who do anything that qualifies as "driving" to use their full attention or else they'll die in hell.
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>>744798939
Not paranoid about it. Its just a conversation to have to pass the time
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>>744798881
kinda funny how there were plenty of civilizations that had no problem eating these foods. Maybe Moses got diarrhea once and decided it was a sign.
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>>744798955
That's just anoher instance of that number. It may or may not have been intentional. After the spreading awareness of the beast, his mark and prophecies of total control, it's being used for some shady shit.
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>>744799045
Yeah, much better to have a bunch of countries that are at each other's throats.
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>>744799074
Yeah. That would be cool, Butt-Head.
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>>744799246
>no problem
Not even remotely true. Madicine was in such a primitive state that it was treated like magic. Of course people didn't always know how to handle their consumables.
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>>744799395
I'd rather have the potential for discourse and preventative measures than having a gun held to my head with no possible recourse.
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>>744787949

>level 100 Devil here

Idiot to think RFID is the mark. Most people are right handed and use cell phones.

Apple is the most popular, see Apple pay.
Thats your shit mark...
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>>744799682
I never said anything about medicine.
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>>744799799
What gun to your head? if you are talking about the government and laws then by that logic you already have a gun to your head.
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>>744799800
>tl;dr it's the Jews
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>>744799800
Yeah Apple will probably take part in that new tech revolution too.
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>>744799800
the mark would have to be in the head a person could lose an arm
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>>744799800
So bc youre left handed and use android your safe???
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>>744799878
Preventative measures against parasites. Awareness that microorganisms eve ecist. Food presrvation. Medicine. Whatever.
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>>744799800
>in the hand or on the forearm

it says nothing about the palm of your hand
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>>744800007
Not exactly. I'm talking about mass executions, police state intervention in personal matters and the like. Absolute power, etc.
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>>744800424
Wtf are you talking about? I just said their are lots of people who ate and still eat pork and seafood with no problem.
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>>744800557
Who says that happens? That is only one possibility out of many.
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>>744800651
And I'm saying that there were and are problems. To claim otherwise is ignant.
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>>744800808
Better safe than sorry. It's an unneccesary risk. It happens all the time.
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If it has something to do with it...?!?
Make America Great Again ...
"MAGA" is hebrew for "contact"!
Do you notice these anons in this thread, who are taciturning and trivializing this matter?
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>>744801089
What's a tactituring?
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>>744801089
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>>744800935
Yeah because having a bunch of hostile countries with nukes pointed at each other is such a great system. Maybe if we worked together as a species would could actually accomplish something. You watch too many dystopian movies.
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>>744801363
>greed for power, how does it work?
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>>744800822
Some pork or shellfish might have bacteria? Same could be said of any meat. Ever hear of mad cow disease or bird flu? Hunters can tell you that any wild game can have bacteria in it. Just because evil god said that pork was bad doesn't make it any worse than anything else.
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>>744801363
There are ways to prevent those extreme scenarios right now because we are working together. Not a single nuke has been fired in over 70 years. People will always be rebellious again authoritarians and unless you think any global governance instituted by the world leaders we have would be without its victims, there would still be warfare. A utopia of man is nothing but a pipe dream.
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>>744787949
What is a social security number?
What is an identification card?
What is a passport?

You're centuries too late.
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>>744801287
sry, using translator, I wantet to say: meaning twisting...
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>>744801644
Mad cow disease was caused by forcig cattle to cannibalize each other. Bird flu is a virus, not a parasite. Pork and shellfish are notorious carriers of parasites that don't survive only the most thorough preparation.

Gtfo with your bias
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>>744801777
chek
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>>744801549
> all futures will be hunger games
Try ruling an entire planet if you are brutally oppressing people and everyone hates you. You would be in a state of constant revolt.
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I have a RFID tag from https://dangerousthings.com/

AMA
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>>744802254
That's the point. There will always be war because nobody will ever agree on everything. If a global system is put in place, there will be victors and victims. Every. Fucking. Time.
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>>744802327
Can you describe in moderate detail your idea of a proper dinner?
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>>744802015
What is wild game?
Game are wild animals and birds. Large native game animals living in America include antelope, buffalo, bear, deer, elk, moose, reindeer, and wild boar. Small game includes alligator, rabbit, squirrel, beaver, muskrat, opossum, raccoon, armadillo, and porcupine. Some common game birds include partridge, squab (young pigeon), quail, pheasant, wild ducks, wild geese, and wild turkey.

What are the pathogens that can be present in wild game meat?
Wild game meat may carry certain bacteria such as E.coli and Salmonella. Other bacterial diseases like brucellosis and tuberculosis can be carried by wild game in some areas of the United States. Wild game also can carry parasites which can be passed on to humans through contact or consumption.

Quit trying to make the bible fit the facts by ignoring the truth.
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>>744802254
Put down the projective fiction because you're having trouble understanding the point and read a history book instead.
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>>744802435
Hey man, what's your problem with the Bibe's anyway?
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>>744802435
The Jews sucked at preserving and cooking pork so they were told not to. Deal with it, hater.
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>>744787949
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>>744802391
Not the point at all. the point is that you can't make people's life unlivable and still be in power. try telling everyone in Europe 100 years ago that they would all come together and form the European Union and they would have laughed and said it would never work.
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>>744798294

>coins
>marks on foreheads and hands

pick one
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>>744789256
Yeah. That guy was full grayscale colorblind. That device turns colors into audio frequencies so he can differentiate them, dipshit.
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>>744802430
>Can you describe in moderate detail your idea of a proper dinner?
One main dish, two sides and a drink.
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>>744802650
So you get proven wrong and you just pull shit out of your ass? Great! I bet god is glad he has such knowledgeable people arguing for him.
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>>744802957
It's not working out for everyone, though, is it? Get your head out of the sand.
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>>744803144
Why are you guys always so horny for 'proven wrong'? You didn't even prove anything.
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>>744802514
It is full of stupid shit. Even the most dedicated believers don't follow everything in it. Most of them don't know half of the shit that is in.
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>>744803144
You didn't prove anything but the fact that you think god is evil because you didn't get bacon with your breakfast or shrimp with your steak yesterday.
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>>744787949
1998 called it wants its meme back
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>>744803377
You ever read the bible? What language were the books originally written in?
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>>744803316
Because you are making incorrect statements and when you get presented with contras evidence you get all butt hurt. If. You want to believe some goofy shit from the Bronze Age whatever. Just don't try to distort the truth to fit what the Bible got wrong.
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>>744803552
Not him. Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek mostly. Bullshit is still bullshit in any language whether it's the Gutenberg Bible or a solid gold one guarded by a church. So, Mr. Knowledge, why don't you explain the Apocrypha to me? Hell, just explain Lot's daughters or the firmament of water or the tower of Babel or any other obviously bullshit item in that ancient Sheepherder's Guide to the Galaxy?
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>>744790271
>Now, when the state forces you to implement it, then it's fucked up, because you don't have the option to remain anonymous.
But your security is more important, goyim!
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>>744803713
Show me where the bible says you got to hell for violation housing codes or eating bad meat. I'd love for your oh so correct statement to be backed by fact so i can thank Anonymous of 4chan for changing my entire worldview.
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>>744803552
I sure did.

So I don't know "the real bible" because I didn't read it in the original languages? Every time it contradicts itself or has something inconvenient it is just a mistranslation? That's a pretty convenient position to take. It is also a stupid one. If the Bible is so easily mistranslated then how can you say any of it is accurate?
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>>744790271
You got a chipped debit/credit card? All I have to do is walk by you with a phone that has a particular app on it and it will read that chip. Bam, I got your account number and name. Free shit for me. An your stuck with a bill just for walking by someone.
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>>744787949
who was "he"?

God or someone else?
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>>744804107
Or any kiosk that makes you think you need its services.
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>>744804015
I never said anything about going to hell. You said that pork and shellfish were unedible because they are magically more bacteria ridden than other meats and I showed otherwise.
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>>744798684
No, that was IBM
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>>744790517
>trump is the antichrist!
The anti-christ is a charismatic and well loved international political figure. Barely anyone likes Trump.
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>>744804024
I learned a moderate amount of Hebrew, and read some of the Bible. It's much less confusing in Hebrew than it is in a translation. Also, many versions were translated differently, causing quite large differences.
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>>744802650
So...Wait. "God" knew his people couldn't eat pork or shellfish because their knowledge of preservation was lacking and you're suggesting he just banned them from eating them...Instead of teaching them how to preserve/clean/cook them. Or, you know, as a God, REMOVE THAT SHIT AND MAKE ALL FOOD EDIBLE for his chosen people? And you schmucks worship YHWH instead of laughing at his incompetence?
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>>744804294
>unedible
Where does it say that? Maybe they had problems with shellfish and pork at those times, what's an angsty 15yr old kid gonna do about it from the basement, 2000 years later?
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>>744798553
>>744797190
>>744801644
That's exactly how this conversation started. It's not something I just pulled out of my ass, it's a pretty common hypothesis.
>inb4 that wasn't you and it just so happens that the other poster stopped replying when you stepped in
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>>744804633
I would debate you if I felt like it, but I'm just impressed that you know God as yahweh. Most people don't.
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>>744804633
You have zero proof for those claims. Until you provide proof into the insight of God and the natural order of which you are subjected to, then consider it debunked.
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>>744792013
>making it difficult for someone to unknowingly track you around without a lot of equipment.
>implying stores and cities aren't full of cameras
>implying people wouldn't eventually be convinced that they'll feel safer if there is a database of criminals faces constantly being scanned with those cameras
>implying a stupid little chip is the only way to track people
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>>744804633
I would say a lot of the food laws were to set Israel apart and cut contact with nations that would lead them astray. The punishment for eating food that was considered unclean was being unclean... until sunset. So no real punishment.
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>>744804600
So you are really going to make that argument? Your "moderate" amount of Hebrew you learned is somehow more reliable than experts in the language? Not to mention the fact the Bible was also written in Aramaic and Greek. So at best you could only have read a portion of it.
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>>744804633
It took millenia of scientific development for mankind to discover the proper techniques of guarding against various illnesses.
>all food
That's a loaded statement. Go eat some poison ivy without preparing it in a way which removes its harmful properties.
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>>744798294
Jesus didn't see it as a problem using Roman mintage. But then, the Jews then didn't want to listen to him then, or now. So that means the disciples had zero problem using Roman montage either. The disciples knew who God was, pagan coins didn't even register in their minds as something bad.
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>>744805161
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>>744804714
> maybe
> insults
Any actual argument you had dried up a long time ago. Don't be mad because you don't have the answers. Pray to you god and see if he gives them to you.
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>>744805333
Nigga u trippin
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>>744805159
Hey. Fuckface. This is GOD. Your insignificant and irrelevant argument about HUMANITY'S limitations don't apply. He could snap his fucking fingers and let us eat rocks, but he doesn't. Because he was invented BY man to control and protect MEN.
>>744805076
Yeah. My point is that God could remove their access to the food, or alter the food so they could eat it. What kind of fuckface leaves the food source and then says "But uh, don't touch it. Sure I could clean it or make you immune, but just listen, ok?" You guys sure god isn't a bookie or some shit?
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>>744805333
Clearly this is opinion and not based in fact. You have failed on multiple opportuities to provide fact-based proof.
>opinions discarded
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What about Nibiru colliding with Jupiter on Sept 23?
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>>744805555
quads of proof and evidence
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>>744793072
This. Bitcoin is a tech bubble. But the theory behind it will drive the cashless society.
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>>744805667
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>>744805486
>eat rocks
Watch out, guys, we've got a regular theologian over here.
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>>744805773
Great rebuttal. Have any tricks up your sleeve besides dismissal and Ad Hominem fallacies? I'll be here, ready to have a civil and productive dialogue when you manage to confront your cognitive dissonance and debate with me.
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>>744787949
Totally fine with all of that. NWO, destruction of western society, all of that. Let the mankind burn back to the medieval.
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>>744805590
Revelation 12 Sign
Jupiter has been in Virgo for almost 9 months, will be on 9/23.

Virgo will wear a crown of 12 stars, 9 from Leo + Mercury, Venus, and Mars; the sun will shroud her, and the moon will be at her feet.

Nibiru is the Great Red Dragon poised to consume her child, Jupiter.

There's a lot more, and more details, on YouTube
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>>744805903
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>>744805510
Uhh what? I have given you proof. I gave you a list of the different types of wild game and what they can carry. You haven't given the first thing other than "well maybe back in those days it was worse"
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>>744806036
OH SHIT NIGGER WHAT ARE WE DOING
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>>744805486
The dietary laws were to set the Jews aside as something special. If you want to argue over food, the book of Acts sets the record straight.

But let's go way way back in the bible first. In the garden, every seed bearing plant and herb is good to eat, (after the fall, not so much all of them). Then meat is added to the diet of man, zero addendum added, all meat is good. Moses and the written law, dietary laws added. Jesus comes, lives by the law fully. Jesus dies, God tells Peter the dietary laws are no more for man, all meat is kosher again. Whatever law from the OT is contradicted by the NT, the NT is to be given credence over the Old.

>anyone arguing that we still live under the Law and not Grace is not a bright light.
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>>744806180
It's the end of days

Videos go into more detail, but they basically say the Rapture is 9/23/17.

The last time, according to Stellarium, that this alignment occurred was like 39xxBC.
Genesis.
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>>744806132
Spiffy maymay. So, you a really, severely lazy troll or is your inability to address an opposing argument really that profound?

I'll wait for your next HILARIOUS picture that surely perfectly pegs me. Wow is me, the fat, ugly, 40 year-old virgin atheist. How ever will I find happiness again?
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>>744806160
>his own list is proof
>of not even the main point but a hypothesis sub-argument
You're diverting from your main claim that the bible is pure bullshit. How convenient that you have no hard evidence to back that up. You made the claim originally, the burden is all yours. No one here asked you if the bible was bullshit or not, that's your own spontaneous claim, therefore you are obligated to provide a full suite of hard, physical evidence
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>>744805903
>evil god
>because daddy didn't let me have bacon and shrimp yesserday
Ad homs indeed.
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>>744806393
>End of days = start of nights.
We gonna party, drink, do drugs and fuck, nigga
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>>744806393
Hey. Psssst. The fact that you THINK it's the end means it isn't according to your own stupid book: Matthew 24:36 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
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>>744805903
lol nigger
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>>744797252
Why are you guys arguing about how the chip will work? They are already in use.
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>>744805555
I will do no such thing.
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>>744797561
It's the word of God they say. But it was transcribed by man. And God gave man free will. So what would have stopped man from adding or omitting whatever they wanted when they wrote the bible for God?
FUN FACT: Nothing.
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>>744806942
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>>744806800
Not arguing, just conversating on the future of the tech.
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>>744806723
Addressed in the videos, but basically, until Jesus was resurrected, he didn't have the Divine knowledge, so he legitimately didn't know.

I'm just going to say watch the videos.
Scott Clark's preferably
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>>744806349
Your dead Messiah disagrees. Thanks for pointing out ANOTHER contradiction found in "The Good Book."


Matthew 5:17-20King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Earth still seems to be here, friend.
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>>744806942
So when and where did they remove the threat of hell from these provisions and how are you so privy to this knowledge that has apparantly been omitted?
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>>744807166
Oh no. Fuck that. God and Jesus are the same being according to the source material. I'm not watching your mental gymnastics video so I can hear that bullshit. Jesus came back IN THE BIBLE. Funny he didn't mention that. Oh, and that that's AFTER his death.
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>>744806723
Matthew 24:42-44 "42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."

In an entire chapter about prophecy. What kind af cherrypicked, misleading ignorance are you pedaling?
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>>744806419
Not my own list
http://www.idph.state.il.us/about/fdd/fdd_fs_wild_game.htm

I never said the Bible was bullshit until sombody asked me. This was NOT my main point. I only started responding to you after you started talking about pork and shellfish.

Btw if you are stating that the Bible has truth to it then the burden of proof is on you to prove your claims are true. You can't just assert something is true and say the burden of proof is on me to disprove it. Even still the creation myth has been disproven. The Bible misstates they gave of the earth. It says the earth is fixed and does not move. All of these have been disproven.
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>>744807232
>how are you so privy to this knowledge that has apparantly been omitted?
I'm not specifying any information that has been added or omitted. And as far as how I know, I stated it already.
Man has free will.
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>>744807221
And Jesus said before he died, "it is done".

He fulfilled the requirements of the law and prophets.

In Acts it says that what was once considers unclean in the Lord's eyes, is now clean. In that passage there was a double meaning. In God's eyes now all men are equal to the Jews, they lost their standing in God's eyes, but not His promises. By showing all the unclean animals and saying they are now clean, we can eat what we want.

>tfw people cherry pick for their claims, but refuse to believe that an omnipotent being has the ability to make a paradox work.
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>>744807926
So no one is threatened with hell for their eating habits. Thanks for listening to reason.
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>itt
>finite minds try and grapple with an infinite mind that is capable of anything they could think of and so much more.
>mfw they think they know more than their creator.
>pride goeth before the fall
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>>744807882
You still haven't demonstrated how it was an unintelligent decision to abstatin from food which had parasites, i.e. pork and shellfish.
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>>744787949
Right, and I can get MRIs just fine without that chip exploding or tearing a hole through me.
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>>744808001
As an add on to this
When he fulfilled His role, He was allowed to make any changes He saw fit to the laws of God. That's why we don't have to sit around on the Sabbath anymore, we can cook and do other things. It's why we can eat lobster, or eel, or cephalopods. It's why we can wear mixed fabrics.

The number one commandment is now to love one another. But most of you guys wouldn't know what that means.

Bet none of you here realise that while we must love one another, we don't have to like one another.

Love and like are two separate things.

>inb4 that makes no sense.

God loves everyone, but hates sin
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>>744807721
Exactly:
Matthew 24

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
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>>744787949
They are never getting me with one of those
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>>744807721
I...I'm impressed. You posted that and you're too dense to understand it? When your Lord returns: The Rapture. The Christian Apocalypse. So if you think the end of the world is coming, i.e. the return of Jesus to rule over Earth during the war, then you're wrong. Because he, himself, fucking said so.
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>>744787949
>right hand
so im fine if i get it in my left?
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Christianity is weak
>I'm not an atheist
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>>744808001
No, motherfucker. He said every TIDDLE of the law is to be upheld until Heaven AND EARTH have passed. Not "Wait until I say 'It is done,' then mixed fabrics and seafood and working on Saturday/Sunday are fine. Not until then, though."
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>>744808451
>ITT: Religious people without a shred of evidence to support their supernatural claims proclaim advanced knowledge and to be above everyone else. Again.
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>>744808518
Dude stop moving the goalposts everytime you can't answer a point. If the best you have is "well it doesn't hurt anything" then just give up. I'm pretty sure there where several famines in those days and I'm sure if they had a few more things they could eat then less people would have starved.
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>>744809323
Christianity is strong actually. What weakling would stand to being fed to wild beasts without crying out for mercy?

I bet if you to slaughter a pig in front of a Muslim and reach to touch him with pig blood, he would cry and snivel like a baby begging not to be touched.

Christians are taught that our bodies, such as they are, are nothing to be concerned about
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>>744809814
>>744807221
Again, bullshit. Also, I think you're forgetting that God told you your body is a temple into Christ. Every cigarette you smoke, tattoo or piercing you get, every time you drink sweet and sour acid water, you are harming the Temple of Christ and committing a sin. Best get to those Hail Marys.
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>>744787949
Whooooaaaaaa something with an incredibly vague context and meaning has a slight correlation with something happening now!? That's it, I'm converting.
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>>744802734
Nice. A completly ineligable pocture. quality save and post Anon.
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>>744809415
Why didn't you address the second point?

He was given the ability to change the law as He saw fit.

Pro tip man, no one needs to read the OT AT ALL. To make it into heaven. That means, everything you need to know is within the New Testament. And no where in there does it have the dietary laws, or the fabric laws, or anything that's not relevant now.

And you're failing to see that most of those laws were for the Jews only. Not for all mankind.

So you keep on bleeting like a sheep, or rather that horse or donkey from "Animal Farm" repeating over and over, "I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'm gonna shout you down because I don't want to admit I'm wrong"

Show me the dietary and fabric laws from the NT.
Again, you don't need any knowledge of the OT to get into heaven. So all your "but it says this in the OT" arguments are invalid

Better yet, show me where it says I must know the OT to follow Jesus.
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>>744810472
Kek. I like the burn, anon, and I didn't post the stupid picture, but...
If you load the full picture and zoom in, it's all legible...

Just thought you should know.
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>>744809175
The point is that if someone says, "Jesus is returning on December 21, 2021," they are probably full of shit. However, if someone has been watching and details prophetic fulfillment, saying, "Better watch out," then you'd be wise to keep an open mind and an eye on the world around you.
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what the fuck is this thread about?
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>>744810030
We're supposed to take care of ourselves yes. But we aren't to hold onto it like some pathetic creature.
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>>744810563
Oh look. Another Christian ignoring the book's demand you spread it (Hint, how do you spread a message without knowing the fucking message?) Oh, and I guess the Ten Commandments are just unnecessary now. Because a Jewish dude died somewhere 2000+ years ago. Do you fucking see the arguments you make when you do these debates? Not. One. Tiddle. Of the Old Law was different. Said Jesus himself. According to the NAMESAKE of your religion, mixed fabrics and shit are still bad. It didn't say not to wear polyester because it was dirty. It simply said not to wear it. You're also only to drink to be merry and never to be drunk. If Christianity WERE the most logical and valid worldview, I think there'd be more Christians in Hell than atheists. I take your book literally, just like it says to.

You can't have it both ways: Either the Old Testament, including World Creation and the Ten Commandments are entirely irrelevant and Jesus' NT only laws are the ones that matter OR Both the Old and New Testament work in conjunction and must be taken as a whole. Now which is it? I guess fuck Abraham and shit because the old laws were fucking asinine?
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>>744811099
The Legend of Zelda
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>>744810932
No. I wouldn't. Thousands of homeless men stand on the side of roads predicting the end time and have been for as long as homeless people have been a thing. This world will end suddenly, by cataclysm, be it terrestrial or cosmic.
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>>744811582
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