Lets jerk off to our friends feet. Girls we know FEET thread.

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>>744384238

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>>744384345

>>744385209
Thats a good one!

>>744384502
Why is she stepping on maggots?

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friends gf

>>744385940
Ive seen kate before. Great creeps!

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>>744386261

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>>744386575

gf and I like to share her feet
kik jaxck_

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>>744386711

>>744384238
If there was a hall of fame for feet threads, she'd be in it.

>>744387194
Absolutley. Any other nominees? Maybe we should make one lol.

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>>744387028

>>744387578
Fappin. Keep em coming.

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>>744388001

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>>744388349

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the one in the middle makes me cum buckets

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>>744388903

>>744388903
Me on the left.

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>>744388617

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>>744389013

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>>744389630

>>744388686
Oh wow fuck yes. Now thats a fb feet pic. Who is she?

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>>744389909
her little feet are easily my favorite

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>>744389878
you like her?

No soles no good

>>744389909
>>744389998
Wow. Lots of girls in here ive never seen before. Really hot ones too. Her toes are really hot. Who is she?

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>>744389986

>>744390247
Aussie girls always have dem thick toez.

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>>744390247
>>744390896
Toni is American lol

>>744390614
Yea man. Shes really cute and those yoes are fucking sexy.

>>744390247
moar

>>744390896
stop being a fucking racist

>>744389909
>>744389830

goddesses

>>744390948
Well that guy next to her had australia tattooed on him lol. Love toni's round suckable toes.

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I'm trowing away so many gallons of my sperm on her pics.

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>>744391129

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>>744391165

>>744388686
Theyre actually all pretty cute. Middle clearly has best feet though

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>>744390948
>>744390959
>>744391035
>>744390957
sexy toes and a nice ass, what more could you want?

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>>744391244

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>>744391273

>>744388686
>>744390247
>>744390614
>>744390948
>>744391273
>>744391484
How many of these, if any or all, are the same girl?

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>>744389723
today is her birthday, only right to jerk to her feet

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>>744391672
all of these:
>>744390247
>>744390948
>>744391273
>>744391484
are toni

>>744391129
you have good taste

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>>744391725

>>744391873
Cool! Thanks. And whos are these? I assume one is toni?

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>>744391906
And no cum left.

>>744391907
>>744391725
Happy birthday Sam! I'm stroking my dick to your toes. For your present im gonna shoot some cum to you. Hope you like your gift of jizz for your feet.

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>>744391873
>>744392029
yep, Toni on bottom, Brianna on top

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>>744392153
>>744391907
Sam's tasty toes deserve jizz 24/7 and especially so on her birthday. I'm sure she'd be flattered

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>>744392500

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which one and why?

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>>744392820

>>744392888
Clearly they are trying to attract an africanus criminalus mate by using watermelon.

>>744393074
kek

>>744393488
Really good piece of meat.

>>744393883
>ywn play with Sam's feet while having her hooked up to an industrial milking machine

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Would u come on these feet?

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>>744393988
I wish. An anon can dream though

>>744392183
Tonis toes are really fucking hot. Pic of briana?

>>744389082
Hot as fuck

how'd you guys develop your foot fetish? for me my older sister used to rub her feet on my crotch when I was really young I was maybe 8-10 and she was in high school

>>744390870
does she do this on purpose or something?

>>744394676
Well arent you the luckiest fuck on planet earth. Pic of her?

>>744394676
Lucky you. My sis and her friend would make me jerk off in front of them while they laughed at me and told me how their boyfriends were so much bigger.

>>744395080
nope, just has her feet out

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>>744394247
>>744392183
Brianna is a sexy bitch

>>744384238
>>744384345
>>744384387
WTF I KNOW SARA! This is crazy, I never thought i'd see someone I know on 4chan!

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Olivia Wellington

>>744395876
I'll take the bait in case this is real. She is one of the most well known foot sluts here. Thousands of loads have been spilled to her pics.

>>744396032
I don't really go on 4chan all that much and when I do I just use /gif/ and I thought why not check out /b/ and on the first page I see Sara. WTF this is crazy. What do you mean she's a foot slut?

>>744396492
Her pics have been posted multiple times per week, sometimes multiple times per day for at least 18 months. There are hundreds if not thousands of men all over the world that admire her feet and fap to them.

>>744396714
Wow. I cant believe this haha I've never fapped to my friends facebook pictures before but if everyone else is doing it then I'll join. Are those the only three pictures that are posted? I feel like I should tell her but I wouldnt want her to think it was me haha

>>744397026
There is another anon that (says he) knows her pretty well that posts her new pics. If he is real, she lives in DC and drinks pretty much every day and has daddy issues.

>>744397445
So you're not her original poster? How do you know? Do you know her though?

>>744397818
I don't know her. I've just seen her posted here a million times.

>>744397863
Do you have her pictures? I can tell you about her for more pictures. I dont fap to facebook pictures usually but there's something about her being posted to 4chan for others that is really getting me off

>>744398091
I'm at work and don't carry around my foot folder. I can tell you that there are a few pics of her holding a bottle of liquor (tequilla?) and she is wearing a "1738" or something similar logo on her clothes.

>>744398234
Doesnt sound familiar. So guys really like jerking it to Sara? I've always thought she was cute too. What do other anons say about her?

>>744384238
dumb bitch is gonna crash

love more of her

>>744398464
I haven't fapped to her much lately as foot threads have been kind of dead lately. But I have countless times in the past. She is universally loved by foot fags.

>>744397445
>>744397026
I gotta weigh in here. I was around for some of the earliest Sara feet faps.

1. When it first started out the guy who posts her was making threads that had pics of her and were titled like , "Who wants to fap to Sara Wanous?"

I thought she was cute and liked her innocent look and obviously I like feet so i was in the thread jerking off and asked for any pictures he could find if her feet. The guy delivered and said hes not huuuge into feet but likes them a bit and liked how much guys seemed to like using her and her feet to fap. Then after that I'd see threads with, "who wants to fap to Sara's feet?" Sometimes her last name is included sometimes it's not.

2. Ichatted with her OP through email a few times. Hes cool enough. He shows up here and gives us new Sara feet pics from time to time when she posts new stuff. As far as anyone kniws she still has no idea she gets posted here all the time for guys to jerk to her feet.

3. This guys estimate of hundreds or thousands if guys jerking to her is probably ambitious. Shes well known in the feet threads for sure but thats it. You can decide how many people you think come to these threads regularly.

4. Last few days/weeks, someone claims to know her. His pattern and types of comments make me think hes lying, but i cant know for sure. Part of me thinks hes the same guy that posts sam and keeps pretending hes not sam op but cant know for sure. He tells us things about her you can find on her fb as proof that he knows her. All i know is shes not from DC and if he claimed he knows her and thinks shes from there, hes wrong.

5. Last few days, that same guy is pushing to tell Sara shes a famous 4chan foot slut. Most of the rest of us on here think thatd be cool but dont want her to stop posting pics with her feet in them until we get a few more really good shots of her. Then maybe after that.

6. Im not convinced youre not that same guy. The rest of the anons here can decide for themselves.

>>744398464
>Doesnt sound familiar.
I might be thinking of another woman. Needless to say, she is foot famous.

>>744385919
Thats a carpet

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Georgie Dorfman

>>744398610
>shes not from DC
He said she lives in DC but was from somewhere else.

>>744393702
Aussie guy?

>>744398603
>>744398610
Wow this is incredible. So you think random people save her pictures too or just fap when the OP posts them. I know for a fact she doesn't live in DC too. And I swear im not that same guy. I'd prove it to you if I could. And if she found out she would most likely break down I think. She really is so innocent that Im not sure how she'd handle hearing that haha

>>744399202
I've saved some of her pics...along with thousands of other women. I honestly don't care about names or locations. I just thought it was funny when you said you knew her.

>>744399371
Can I see which ones you've saved? I have access to all her pics but I wanna know which pics 4chan anon's use to fap

>>744399618
I'm at work.

>>744399618
This is the kinds of comments that make me think the story isnt real lol.

>>744398930
More Dana feet please.

>>744399786
Thought you might have been a different anon. Sorry. Which pic of her is your favorite though? I want to find it and fap to it

>>744384238
>Lets jerk off to our friends feet.

I feel like every time I read some retarded shit like that I lose a little bit of intelligence.

>>744399202
Look man. We wanna believe. Its not impossible youd see her on here. Its just interesting timing. Anyways we all hope its true cause that would be cool and funny but we just cant be sure. In terms of your questions, you got kik or something? Id answer whatever questions you have if you wanna chat there. Its much easier.

>>744400000
nice dubs

>>744399905
I dont care if you believe it or not but this is my first time on /b/ in probably a year and the first thing I see is someone I know so im going to fap to her as much as I can.

>>744400000

Sexy

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I've wasted gallons on the two on the left

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>>744400551

>>744400167
No i dont use kik. It's just a shock for me to see something like this. Like I said, I dont care if you believe me or not because I have access to all her pics. Im just trying to wrap my head around all of this. But if you say she gets posted all the time then I'll start going on /b/ more and maybe someone else can give me some more details haha

>>744388001
Lol wtf is there to fap to, u degenerate fucks

>>744400000
>check out /b/ cause I forgot how cancerous it is
>this is a normal get

bye

>>744400744

>>744400167
This is me.

>>744399905
This is not me. Just so you know.

Im happy to answer questions its just not super easy to go back and forth. But yea, lots of pics of sara and her feet, probably 25-35, get posted in these feet threads pretty regularly. She gets a lot of comments and a lot of guys who post in these threada have said theyve jerked off to her feet and shot lots of cum to them. Anything else, let us know.

If you have access to her pics, share rhe wealth man! See what you can find of her feet. Or better yet, post some pics that arent on her public facebook, ones us non friends cant normally see. That would at least prove youre fb friends with her.

>>744400684
>>744400551
I can see why! Thyre hot. And really cute feet for having unpainted toes.

>>744386846
invalid kik

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>>744401210
Knowing that random anons are jerking off to her is bizarre to me but at the same time is really making me want to cum to her.
Okay here's one. Has this one been posted before?

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>>744401275

>>744401722
Not sure if its been posted or not. I think ive seen it. One thinf i can confirm is its not a public photo. Were talking to one of Sara's fb friends of nothing else. Onky remaining question is whether or not its just her OP who gets off on seeing her reposted or not, but in either case i commend this man for not being completely full of shit.

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>>744402043
How about this one? No feet so maybe its never been posted. Im really not her OP but it makes me wonder who is. I probably know the person if he posts her. Are you fapping to her right now?

>>744401828
She s great man. Love those toes. Who is she?

>>744402409
Yea ive never seen that one before. Cool man. Im just about to get home from work. Whatever the truth is, ill likely have to give her a couple pumps lol.

>>744402043
It also makes me wonder if anyone else I know besides sara has been posted on 4chan. I gotta start browsing /b/ more

>>744384238
>sandals
>anklet
>those meaty feet in general
f-fuck

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>>744402592
Can you post when you get back? Im really starting to see her appeal

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Girl I use to work with and hooked up with a few times

>>744393370
face?

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>>744394952
please god, have more

>>744403085
I love coworker feet. Nice purple toes.

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Brittney and Meg. Sisters

>>744403346
Have you posted meg here before? I think i remember seeing her.

>>744402614
>>744403007
Im hope now. Getting started. You?

Ive been on b about 3 years. Ive seen literally 1 person i know in that time and it wasnt in a feet thread. I think its honeatly really good luck to see anyone.

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>>744403289
thanks anon

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>>744403443
Oh yes. Many a time as well as Brittney. Here's a creep of Meg from about a year ago>>744403346

>>744402592
>>744401722
>>744401210
>>744402409

Kek I'm the anon that knew Sara from yesterday. She went to my HS. And I guarantee you her OP just gets off on sharing her feet. I was the one posting pics directly from her FB and told y'all she's Portuguese.

>>744403584
Nice! This fetish is the fucking best. Its a pleasure jerking off to unknowing girls feet with you guys.

>>744403562
unf

>>744403641
Oh god. How many people know this girl and browse b? They cant all be telling the truth.

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>>744403771
>>744403641
I recognized her yesterday I was here first.

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>>744403541
Yeah i have been almost as soon as I figured out what's going on. And this is the first person i've seen. I'll consider myself lucky then. Do you have her pics now?

>>744403858
Some yes.

>>744403641
didn't you post her fb info too?

>>744403641
>>744403850
>>744403927
Anon that just recognized her today here, if everyone here is telling the truth then this is one of the greatest things ive stumbled upon ever. LETS ALL POST HER

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>>744404014
Yeah

>>744404014
It didn't take a ton of detevtice work. We post her full name in just about every feet thread.

>>744404125
you are a golden god for that sir.

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>>744404125
Not really, see >>744404155

You can only see most of her stuff if you're her friend so let's make this a group effort and keep dumping unseen stuff

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>>744404169
>>744404239
Forgot tag

>>744404169
>>744404125
Her name was poated in every thread. He probably searched her. Found her. Posted a few public pics (they were pics ive sewn on her fb and im not an fb friend of hers), and is acting like he knows her. He was also the one pushing for her to be messaged and told shes a foot slut. I think hes pretending to know her to give that plan more weight. The other guy at least has private fb pics of her.

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>>744403850
>>744404125
Do you post any of her friends? Have you seen any of them posted? I just found out about this today

>>744404289
>>744404239
christ her feet are delicious. can't wait to tell her myself. think she'd accept paypal for some feet photos?

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>>744403742
have a lot of candid's of this girl too

>>744404289
I have no idea whos telling the truth here but god damn do Sara's feet look hot in these slutty heels. Im jerking my hard stranger dick off to Sara Wanous's feet like crazy.

>>744398610
Im this anon by the way.

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Looks like Gaby is becoming famous on 4chan. Who has fapped to her?

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>>744404354
Then how did I know about her nationality and her personality and stuff about HS track? I do want to see her messaged but I also do know her. Probably better than you seeing as we were on the same team.
>>744404376
Kek, I don't think so.
>>744404362
No but I could. Sara's feet are just nicer

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Gaby has the best feet ive seen her

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>>744403651
>>744403584
Going to post some Sumer next. She doesn't have much for foot/face pics so I'll have to go back and forth

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>>744404810

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>>744404892

>>744404549
Sara OP is just freaking out because someone else knows her and wants to see her get messaged. He's been spamming her longer than any fb footslut I've ever seen. Not a complaint, just an observation.

Guy from yesterday wants to see her messaged and has posted new photos proving he knows her too, so I have no reason not to believe him as of yet.

New guy could just be one of those two previous anons samefagging. It's highly unlikely we get three different people knowing someone in the same thread. Two maybe but not three.

>>744404661
Post a non-public picture that we havent seen and then we'll know for sure. All that information has already been given out im sure

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>>744404942

>>744404958
Highly unlikely does not mean impossible. She's from a very populated city and has over 1,500 facebook friends so it is possible.

>>744404958
this is the gayest shit I've seen in a long time. I can smell the autism though my monitor

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Oc

>>744403264
google search fat man feet

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>>744405069

>>744404984
>>744404661
I've posted plenty. Also, how do I know which ones are public if I'm her friend and can see private ones too? Do I have to look at each individual photo or is there a way of sorting them faster than that?

Pretty sure none of that other info has really been posted. I can also tell you what color her track flats were senior year, the street her house was on and her favorite soccer team. Again, I'm pretty sure I know her better than you

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>>744405499

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>>744403651
>>744403584
and here's some more Meg creeps. Funny how even a foot fetish fap thread devolves into arguments. I'm here for one reason

>>744404958
idk why Sara OP has a stick up his ass about this whole thing. he posted her full name for a reason. he wants us knowing who she is. what we do with that information isn't up to her

any requests on what I should send?

>>744405873
Yeah it's not like he came in her shoes and left tons of DNA evidence laying around, right?

Too soon?

>>744405545
Not sure but post one thats never been posted and everyone will be happy. Then tell us all of it?

>>744404661
Her nationality is somthing none of us can confirm and can be guessed based on last name maybe too. If you google her youll see shes a track athlete. If yiu follow these threads, op has talked aboutbher personality, which we also can not confirm. Youve proved literally nothing. Post some private fb photos of her and youll at least have a leflg to stand on.

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Gaby and Sara are from same place?

>>744406033
How about any of these that I posted?
>>744403850
>>744404661
>>744404289
>>744404239
>>744404125
Honestly you've already posted so many of her feet pics I have no idea what would be new at this point

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photo shoot with my ex

>>744406200
Im not saras fb friend and have seen literally all these pics while browsing her fb. Theyre all in public albums.

>>744406281
you should make a thread for her and dump the set

>>744406147
Oh yeah i recognize this girl now. I had saved thia pic of her! Really cute and amazing feet!

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>>744406201

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Never really got understood the fetish until one day my sil sent me this

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>>744406369
sadly. there isnt really that much. I mean not enough for her own thread

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What does /b/ think of my gf?

>>744405873
Im the guy who posted saras full name. Im not her op but i have been around since when she first started getting posted. See long post above. For the record i post her full name because her op already did. Im not into doxxing and whiteknightinf if op isnt already cool with it.

Based on chatting with op, and what ive seen in these threads. Patterns posts etc. Im nearly certain that angry sara poster claiming to know her and wanting to kessage her is Sambro. His sanefagging, style and post patterns are too similar. Also he's done nothing to convince her he really knows her yet seems really worried about people believing him. A real sara friend could give less of a shit and give up by now. Like the other did. Im guessing the other knows her (posted private photos). 50/50 says its saras op just trying to post from not the perspective of her op, or hes a new guy that actually knows sara and isnt her op. I want to believe him, but its b so you gotta be a bit skeptical.

Also notice how sam gets posted in all these threads every day, but today hes strategically not posting her, even thiugh yesterday when he was doinf this same shit he sam was also being posted.

Tldr: angry poster claiming to know sara is def sambro. Other guy may be for real. Hard to say.

>>744406591
Awesome! Pic of her?

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>>744406718

>>744406878
I agree with this post.

>>744406718
dummer she's hot. any nudes?

>>744406878
Calling bullshit here. You're all three. If you weren't her OP you wouldn't care about any of this shit. Your samefagging with Sara is getting as old as Sambro's was near the end. You're playing with fire on /b/ anon

>>744407186
bummer*

>>744407200
Why is everyone speculating so hard when we should be fapping?

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>>744406878
Do you know this girl

>>744406878
This is some CSI: Footfag edition tier posting here lmao. Are you talking about samsap that always posts his gmail and asks to kik? I haven't seen him around lately.

>>744407200
this guy gets it. I have no idea how I didn't catch on with all the Sara Wanous spam in these threads before. it's a good thing she's hot or I'd really hate you >>744406878

>>744407200
Lol if i was all 3 this would be an overly elaborate samefagging. Ive talked to sara op. Hes pretty mello about the whole thing. He comes in. Posts her. Asks people to post the pics they like. Chats. Answers questions. Presumably cums. Then leaves. Hes not even all that much of a feet guy i think. Just loves us using her. I doubt hed even care all that much if she got messaged.

For the record, i wanna see her get messaged, or maybe even phone called. I just dont want it to happeb quite yet cause i want a few nore good feet pics from her. We still havent got a great sara wanous soles picture yet. And some higher quality tops photos would be good to.

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>>744407186
I actually do but not the right thread

>>744407494
Still not as bad as Danielle OP, but pretty bad.

>>744407559
>>744406878
This is getting pretty pathetic Sara OP

>>744407615
how do I see them?

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What should I say?

>>744407559
Pretty sure this anon is right. The sara OP doesn't put that much effort into samefagging

>>744407445
Oh man. Samsap. No not him. He used to poat his mom and sister and say hnng and diamonds all the time. Then when people would commwnt on his mom or sister hed always ask if they were his phone background lol he was so weirdly specific.

Sambro used to post this cute girl sam and her feet all the time. Shes really hot actually. Hed samefag all the time though. Pretend it wasnt him commentinf. It was really obviosu. Eventually someine figure iut who she was and messged her that guys were jerking off to her feet.

I cant be sure of any of my claims. No csi style hard evidence. Ive just been in these threads for a while and am familiar with the girls and guys patterns. Its just my best guess.

>>744407811
I figured it out after I posted. I love Sam...I just never heard the poster named sambro. I want to beat the shit out of samsap.

>>744406878
>>744407811
I thought this at first but then I realized that Sambro was never cool with posting her last name>744393883

My verdict is it's an elaborate ruse by Sarabro taken from Sambro's playbook

>>744407765
That her pic was posted on a feet thread

>>744407765
Thank her for being QT and responsible for the large amount of semen spilled in her honor.

>>744407765
Oh no! This could likely be hot. But we can be sure her page is about to go private. Please dont ruin it for us. Therea a lot of good unsaved feet pics on there.

>>744406069

Except her last name is Czech...

>>744407968
I guess its possible. I just dont jnow why his behavior would change so much at rhis point.

>>744407765
Pretty sure she's going to delete her FB

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>>744407615
sorry man

>>744407765
Here's her fb (if it wasn't obvious already):
/sara.wanous

>>744408075
>>744408248
Then grab her photos while you can, gogogogo

>>744408253
post her in here
>>744401721

>>744407765
Woah. Ok never realized she had this page. I just went on there and theres tons of unseen feet pics of her. Closeups too. If youre gonna do this do this, but give it two days so i can save all the pics. Im not at a pc right now. Ill get them all saved and posted here and then we can properly contact her. If you jump the gun were gonna lose all the material. (Screen shots wont cut it, on pc i can save full quakity from ig) We can even make a special event feet thread where we all fap and mesaage sara live.

Dont blow this man. Theres a chanve for something awesome here.

>>744407765
Tell her you'd lick whipped cream off her dirty feet while she's bound to her bed, gagged with her own smelly socks

>>744408503
>>744408400
Someone rip her insta fast

>>744408695
I can do it in full quality if you give me two days. Lets plan the fap and reveal thread for this time next week. Plus i assume shes about to get 5 to 10 new followers so lets at least not tell her the same day so she doesnt put 2 and 2 together lol.

>>744407765
You won't do it faggot.

>>744408896
>two days
Too long. Can anyone do it faster? What could I use to get it now? I'll upload to mega or something

>>744408896
He already told her. I dont think you'll have two days

>>744408994
Basically you gotta go through 1 by one and use the inspecr element on a browser to find the img source code. You gotta change it a bit to remove the size changes that it does for insta. Then you view in browswer full quality and save. Im happy to do it. Theres no expiry date on this plan to message her. We have time. Let's not jump the gun and have it fizzle out crappily like some others did. Lets do this one right.

>>744409152
I've used a program that could rip entire pages really quick in full quality but have no idea what it was and am on a new laptop. Already used up my 4kstogram downloads on other sluts so I'm open to suggestions

>>744409336
The method above is what i use. I can do it tomorrow if you guys dont blow it and get her stuff all locked up.

>>744409426
someone else download 4kstogram and do it. duh.

>>744409152
>>744407765
If one of you guys actually knows her and has her phone number i know a guy online that will call her and tell her on the phone while we all listen in. Hearing her reaction would be so awesome.

I dont care who does it. I just dont want all that good mateiral to get lost. We need the full quality versions of those feet pics and if we lose them for a crappy message and minimal reaction its gonna suck.

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I'm guessing this isn't a feet thread anymore

>>744409955
Sure. Girls we know feet. Room for all.

>>744409922
precisely my feelings about Sam :(

>>744407363
I sont. Have just seen her here. Love her feet though.

>>744404538
More candid

>>744407765
Has she responded yet?

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>>744408253

>>744410153
Yea we never really did get some close clear views of those cute little feet. Now theyre gone. We wont be seeing her again :(

>>744410153
Well sara has stuff that we disnt know about. Good stuff! Just need time to get it. Still would hols out for a sole shot if it was up to me, but as long as were able to download full quality versions of this stuff ill live with it.

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>>744410153
>>744410271
Wahhhh, poor Sam. Sluts need to know if they're being sluts. Even if they don't know it themselves

>>744410241
This girl has beautiful big feet.

>>744410388
Post some unseen stuff?

>>744410427
Thats not the problem. The problem is all the lost never seen future feet content. With sara if were able to get this stuff before its done id deal with that.

>>744410427
seeing as her shoes got raped I feel like it's a different situation. that message took it too far. you have to be careful what you message or else you'll lose the opportunity for future pictures

>>744410522
Im on mobile. I need pc to dl it. I dont want to do screen caps for many reasons.

>>744410241
did you eve post her nudes in another thread?

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>>744410561
>>744410550
Lalala I can't hear you

>>744410561
Her responses made it seem like that was a Sam Op bs story anyways. Keep in mind it wasnt him who fi ally messaged her.

>>744410693
>>744410427
Yeah, let's not handle Sarah like this. I'm all for telling her a footslut but let's not say anything that outs her OP at the very least. That messager was a faggot. Never expected him to go full gentleman

If this actually happens. And in a cool way its gonna be so great.

>>744410747
Those stories were between 3-5 years old. He used to greentext about it way back in the day. I'm pretty sure they were true but he was presenting them as if they were still happening. I called him out about it a couple of times. If she realized the stuff he posted was that old she might have reacted differently. But we lost the chance to find out any of it from her or Sambro thanks to shotty execution
>>744410427