So I lost my job today because of alleged sexual harassment.

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Let's get a nice violence against women thread going on.

what the fuck are bonus points

>>743884016

It would have just been a simple talking to, and be done with it, but another employee states I "hugged" her, which I did. But she was in tears and fucking acting crazy. I did it. Big fucking deal.

>>743884167

Company uses bonusly.

>>743884331
i have never worked in a corporate environment so idk what that means.

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Fuck those bitches.

>>743884016
>Any recommendations? I'd like to go out with my head held high.

Say nothing, do nothing. Hire a lawyer. Have them do ALL the talking.

>>743884444

You can award out fellow employees for doing things well. Oh you nailed that report? Here's 50 bonusly points you can use on a gift card for wherever you want.

>>743884016
Post chatlog!

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>>743884016
>her
This is the real problem.

If it was really innocent? Contact a Lawyer and make bank.

Sue the cunt who lied, your boss. and the company. EACH, SEPARATELY. If you sue them as a group the company will pay all costs and you will have a long fight. Guaranteed the cunt and your boss will settle which will pay for the big pay day.

>>743884663

Hmm. I think I may.

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Might as well do it now that every thinks you did so it's not a total loss

>>743884663
In my country you could sue they all in one even though it would be better to sue separately. But they would be sued for different things. She would be sued for lying and destroying your job; your boss for firing you without hearing you and your company for worker rights anyway.

>Screenshot texts
>Get a lawyer
>Sue bitch, boss, and company seperate
>???
>Profit!

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>>743884745
at least talk to a lawyer, retard. make sure to save the texts. also lawyers will sue for free if they get a cut of the money you make off it

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Alright, so I will take the moral high road, and not use those points inappropriately.

Im calling lawyers as I type this.

>>743885325

Calling lawyers

>>743885172
Now, this could work.

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>>743885010
Right but then the company would cover all the costs and the battle would rage on for years costing you fuck tons, before you ever saw penny one. By suing separately the boss will settle first and you can use that money to continue to pay the lawyer to ream the cunt and the company. With no real risk to your personal finances.

>>743885437
if youre going to do this legit, ensure you don't communicate with her or company further until lawyer says so

>>743884663
Hahahahahahaha. No. You won't find a lawyer willing to take this case.

t. lawyer

>>743885644
And what is he suing the boss for, exactly? What is the legal theory?

>>743885873
>t. kitchen lawyer
FTFY

Post the screenshots!

Same thing happened to me. You're fucked. Suing is hard if you're an at will employee. Also it will be very hard to find another job if you're involved in a lawsuit against a former employer. Try and get in writing that you resigned and make sure they talk about the circumstances to anyone. Move on, don't look back and leave graciously. It's not the end of the world by anymeans.

>>743886002
From what you've written, you know nothing about how discrimination law works in the real world. No lawyer will touch this case. They certainly wouldn't sue the individuals. You sound like an idiot.

>>743884563
This

>>743884016
Unfair dismissal mate. Go to court, get a fat pay out, have the last laugh

>>743884016
why were you trying to text a girl from work if you didn't intend to bang her

i hope she claims you raped her and you go to jail

I hate assholes who try to fuck girls who have bf's

>>743886273

But I didnt.

>>743886272
>Unfair dismissal mate.
That's not really a thing in the U.S. The only chance he would have is if he had an actual written employment contract, which very few people have. Even then, it would be a he said she said case.

>>743886105

It is unfortunately an at will employment state.

If I'm fucked and an attorney won't take this case, what should I write on this bitches wall?

>>743886456
Let us see the chats and we'll decide if you did or didnt.

>>743886578
Nothing. Unless you want to open yourself up to a CFAA claim for unauthorized use of the employer's network. Don't be stupid. Move on.

>>743886273
Fuck you anon you sound like a cuck

>>743886105
Yes bend over to your corporate overlords

>>743884016
If what you said is true, your employers jumped the gun when they fired you. There is a process to be followed in first establishing that sexually harassing behavior exists, that it was identified to the accused harasser, and that the harasser continued behaving in the ways he or she was told to stop.

If what you said is true, your best recourse would be to find a labor lawyer in your area who has an activist streak to him or her. You probably also have cause to file complaints of your unjust treatment with the EEOC and its counterpart in your state.

>>743886116
You sound like you went to law school, but never actually got a job as a lawyer. Youre probably just some loser alcoholic who tells people he's a lawyer.
No shortage of you faggots out there.

>>743886540
Yes, it is. You have a mistaken view of your employment relationships.

>>743886273
Insecure cunt

>>743886540
But if he still has the texts, and they're as innocent as he claims, then it's an open-shut case, surely...

>>743884016
Get a laywer

>>743884016
I can't wait to get married one day

>>743884444
Checked quadra quads

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>>743884016
Had something similar, but company said that it was a personal issue after investigating and didn't want to proceed with her allegation, she even texted me after she failed in getting me fired trying to 'ease the tension between us' and go on lunch break date like we used to. I told her off. Fucking bitch.

No lawyer would go near this and whatever you fucking do, leave the girl and the company alone. Move on, or you will get a cease and desist letter from the corporate attorney and you definitely don't want it to get into the criminal law arena. Trust me. I've been through this. Move on.

>>743884016
>So I lost my job today because of alleged sexual harassment.
>>I was texting an employee about non-work related stuff
>>apparently her boyfriend saw the texts, though they weren't inappropriate, and flipped his shit.
>>she lied and said that she didn't want me texting her to him
>>got carried away and is accusing me of sexually harassing her, though nothing remotely inappropriate happened.
>>called into my bosses office and was fired today.
>I still have access to this girl's bonus point section that the entire corporation can see.
>Any recommendations? I'd like to go out with my head held high.
>I do like my boss, and her hands are tied.
>What I really want to do.

Why didn't you report this before she got to your boss? Find a lawyer to sue over "wrongful" termination and any interpreted and implied "sexual" harassment are lies. You should not have been the one to get fired.

Fuck, people. Don't have ANY contact with any coworkers. Ever. Stupid shit like this happens.

And as a follow up, you learned a valuable lesson, most women are cunts, and people at work are not you're friends in general.

Kidnap the bitch. Cur her tits off and mail one to her boyforned and one to your former employer. Then burn everything down with fire under the veil of night.
Problem solved.

>>743884563
>Hire a lawyer

yeah, you got $5k for the retainer?

>>743885325
>lawyers will sue for free if they get a cut

This isn't true. This only happens if they are guaranteed they are going to make money, like insurance cases or cut and dried cases like someone hurting themselves on a wet floor. In OP's case which could go both ways, I'd bet they are going to ask for 5k just for "discovery"

>>743885873
>won't find a lawyer willing

They will if he posts a retainer of 5k or more

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>>743885963
Termination with out cause.
Discrimination (Gender)
Perhaps a few others after I have a drink or two and become creative.

(Lawyer my ass!)

>>743885873
Not on spec no but if I pay you you work for me bitch.

>>743887000
>just some loser alcoholic who tells people he's a lawyer.
>No shortage of you faggots out there.
are you one of them?
there really are way more of these faggots in existence than you could believe

>>743884016
In civilised countries there are laws to protect workers for this. Where i live employers have to prove that something happened and that it was urgent to fire the employee. Fire immediately is only allowed with things like fraud, theft, assault, endangering coworkers or being drunk at work. In your case the judge will cancel the dismission, making you officially employed again. The employer will than probably put you out of active service and start a normal procedure to fire you. He has to have a file with all your misbehaviour and warnings that are given to you. If the employer can't handle a file like that to the court, the normal procedure will be cancelled too. Then your boss is forced to settle with you to get rid of you or pay untill the end of your contract.

>>743886456

You hugged her, it was witnessed, she was in an emotional state, there is precedence, plus the chat record backs up her claim of continued harassment whether you feel it was a non-event, means little.

>>743889632
But hey. This is only in civilised countries. But you seem to live in some third world shithole, so there's probably nothing you can do. So goodluck!

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>>743884016
OP seems fishy. I don't think we got the whole story. I bet he's a creep and those texts were super inappropriate. You can't just claim sexual harassment out of nowhere without basis. Your attempts to put your dick in your coworker were getting annoying and they finally got texts to prove you're a creep.

>>743884016
sue for wrongful termination. if you have proof the ball is in your court

>>743887982

But:

1. Did you make physical contact (hugging) that was witnessed?

2. Did you repeatedly text the woman, about "non-work" items?

This company might have decided to be proactive and seperate themselves from OP in advance of a lawsuit from this bitch, suing the company

>>743889871

plus the witnessed physical contact

>>743884016
if OP isn't lying he could just sue

>>743884016
Did she press charges? I was charged with sexual harassment back when I was 18 or so on a girl that was 17 and almost got a sex offender placement as well. Don't fuck around when it comes to sexual harassment. It's her word against yours and in courts, they tend to listen to the women 9 times out of 10. Trust me, kid.

>>743889632

Most US states have "at-will" clauses which means you can be separated at any time without explanation.

>>743889279
Where are you getting this 5k dollar figure from? You think it costs that much for sexual harassment? No, boy.

>>743886272
Not really a thing in the states if you live in an at-will state. They can fire you on the color of your tie and get away with it.

>>743886456
Show us the texts.

>>743888304
Well, clearly, OP is a fucking faggot moron so he couldn't help but to try and get his dick sucked by some whore at Macy's or wherever the fuck he works.

>>743890380
In most cases these clauses and laws do not hold water once you go to trial.

Especially if the jobs are skilled or degree related. Certainly not if you have 5 or 10 years with the company.

>>743890470
Don't do this.

>>743884016

OP's best bet is to sign up for https://forum.freeadvice.com/

There is a section for employment law. Its just a forum like this, but with more informed commenters, most are lawyers on there, but you'll get several opinions usually.

>>743889871
Exactly. I've been there done that with sexual harassment. I got charged with a misdemeanor for fucking saying I'd rape a chick. I can't imagine what OP said. Probably tried to fuck her face in the bathroom.

Im a lawyer Show me the texts and I can see how good of a case you got.

>>743885745
This, also keep on record all contact with her, message sent/recieved anything said or done in person right that shit down with dates and times. My only gripe is you accepted the dismissal, make it clear to your boss you intend to fight the decision but do so through a lawyer now.

To fire you without realistic proof of any wrongdoing is against the law, innocent until proven guilty not the other way around.

>>743890346
>her word against yours

In this case:

1. there was witnessed physical contact (hugging)

2. there was repeated texting probably suggestive in nature that went beyond work related communication

>>743890642
Don't do this.
Be smart. Revealing anything on /b/ would prejudice your case.

Go get a lawyer and get the fuck off of /b/.

>>743890550
Fine, at least tell us how many times you texted her, OP.

>>743890725
Okay well you could easily be charged with offensive touching along with the sex harassment.

>>743888988
It's free to talk to one of there is a lawsuit they will take a percentage of the winnings. So what. If this is true LOL and its not then OP could sue and win. Do nothing call a lawyer Tuesday and get the ball rolling

>>743890793
I'm Rand Spear, the accident lawyer. Trust me that I can get OP a large lump sum for being a fucking faggot.

>>743890393

You apparently don't know what a retainer is. But lawyers want their money up front unless this is cut and dried. Since this could go either way, other than a casual office chat, they are going to require to be paid in advance.

>>743890945
They'll do a consultation but OP might end up on probation and jobless.

>>743890978
Yeah I fucking do. I've had to hire a high cost attorney when I got charged with two felonies, pal. So why not take your bullshit legal advice elsewhere?

>>743884016
If you really did nothing wrong, file a wrongful dismissal case.
You'll either get your job back or a hefty severance.

>>743890978
Attorneys often have installment plans where OP could pay them payments. He could be ordered to pay the coworker restitution and damages though so whatever. I don't feel bad for this idiot. When they say workplace romance is off limits, they fucking mean it.

>>743890550

Only if he has sufficient evidence that they fired him for this specific act. Its typical that in the US they call you into the office and say as little as possible with HR present, give you a box, your escorted to your work area and told to collect your belongings. Then they ask for your keys or access badge and walk you to the door. They must provide you with your last checks also.

>>743891207
Also if he was escorted off company property.

It's important to talk to an experienced lawyer if you believe you were wrongfully terminated due to a sexual harassment charge. Several court cases have ruled in favor of an accused harasser if the employer was shown to use the charge as a pretext to get rid of an employee. A lawyer can inform you of your rights and help you understand your choices if you choose to go to court.

>>743891034
>hire a high cost attorney

for free?

>>743891599
Clearly, you can't read. My family paid for it since they're the ones who had the charges pressed.

>>743889624
No! Im not one of those self righteous degenerates.
Yes they are fucking everywhere drink away there parents money instead of paying off their student loans.
Fucking losers all of 'em

>>743890219
I did more than just hug and she did too, we even made out once at one of our company parties.

It all started when I asked her if she liked me and she said 'only as a friend', to which I just started to treat her as a coworker and ignore her shit, she didn't like it and started to insult me. I told her I will report her to HR if she keeps it up and instead of apologizing she threatened me with sexual harassment allegation. All evidence is on email...

>>743891661

Your own family pressed charges on you? You sound like a real douchebag, just like OP. And money did change hands? Yep.

>>743891832
If she has proof that you and her had a workplace romance going on and that you and her had sexual contact, and that you communicated with her and practically threatened her with getting her terminated for her job because you got mad at her, then you're going to have to defend yourself either in front of your department of labor, HR, or court system. However this girl wants to handle this or how they want to.

>>743892039
Well it was a domestic altercation and the police felt it was necessary to press the charges for them. Gotta love America.

>>743891832
>All evidence is on email

Not admissible, too easy to spoof or forge

https://forum.freeadvice.com/

>>743884471
that chair wouldnt be comfortable at all to sit in.

>>743884016
You have rights on this matter. If you like the job, I would get an attorney. If your story is accurate, then there is no proof of the allegations and you can sue for slander and harassment.

Publicly release a letter of apology to the entire staff explaining the situation and how you felt you were wronged. Explain that you will miss them and have enjoyed your working experience with them and are very upset things ended so wrongfully. Call the bitch out without specifically labeling her. I don't think you can release the text conversation publicly, though, without that being a sueable offense to you. Not sure on that one. But you can make a comment that explains you have proof you did nothing wrong and are pursuing legal action to right it all.

I'm serious about the lawsuit against them though. That is easily a year's salary you could sue for as it defames your reputation and that kind of shit goes on record for your next job to see. You will want to do what you can to clear your record at their expense.

>>743890987
You are either ! Dumb as fuck or B. Dumb as shit. Seriously, explain how the fuck he would end up on probation?

>>743888988
A good lawyer will give you a free consultation and if they think you have a case it won't cost you anything, but they'll take a third of any money you win.

I've sued a employer before for a wrongful termination and that's how it worked for me.

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>>743890617
Lulz we were right all along

>>743890850
Never once you idiot, I am NOT OP.

>>743892100
I didn't want to terminate her, I just warned her. I didn't even go to HR because she stopped insulting me after that. But 2 weeks after I get sent into a meeting where I had to deny all the sexual allegations I had put against me by her, because she was afraid of me going forward with it due to amount of evidence I had.

>>743892301
>not admissible.

The hell it isn't, dumbass. A major evidentiary issue for the judge is determining whether the texts/emails were genuinely written, sent, or received by the parties and that they contain the full conversation. The key to overcoming this barrier is by authenticating the source of the messages

>>743892542
Because sexual harassment is a crime? Holy shit, what fucking planet are you on?

>>743892648
Wasn't implying you were, faggot

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ITT: High powered sperg lords pretend to know things about the law and lawyers.

>>743884291
haha you hugged some bitch in the work place.

>THATS WHAT YOU GET YOU FUCKING CUCK

>>743892696
>>743892696
>I didn't want to terminate her, I just warned her. I didn't even go to HR because she stopped insulting me after that. But 2 weeks after I get sent into a meeting where I had to deny all the sexual allegations I had put against me by her, because she was afraid of me going forward with it due to amount of evidence I had.

Warned her in what kind of way? Like a menacing way? And what has HR said as of late? Have you been terminated already or are you just a sitting duck waiting to see if your ass gets handed to you by some skank at work?

>>743884444
dem quads tho....

>>743892772
You asked me how many times I texted her and flat called me OP. You did not imply it you outright said it you ignorant fuck.

Perhaps you replied to the wrong post?

Try to at least explain your bull shit.

>>743892737
The entire planet doesn't rule by the same set of laws as the U.S. And the girl would have to press charges against him for there to be any legal action that results in him being prosecuted, ending in probation/jail time. You're a moron, and when someone calls you out, you moron harder than ever. I wished I lived on another planet, believe me I do.

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>>743892806
One of my old bar cards. I'm still in practice though. Not everyone here is a neanderthal autist with a passion for memes.

>>743888988
Just have a free consult with two or three different lawyers. Explain to them your situation and if they all feel like your odds of winning a case are good, find a way to scrape together a retainer and file for wrongful dismissal.
Lawyers keep track of their case wins/losses and so won't want to take on a case they feel doesn't have any legs.
Don't consult just one lawyer though because they can mis-assess like anyone can. Get second opinions.

>>743892887
I warned her in email. Investigation is over and company is not going forward with the allegation. If it was going forward I would receive a letter saying that. I denied everything that was said about me and I implied to HR that I would seek legal advice if it goes any further as I'm falsely accused.

>>743893054
Well it seems that OP is likely an American so he'll lose automatically as a White male.

>>743893115
Have you spoken to her since?

>>743884016
have you posted texts?

>>743892592
>sued a employer before

Are you sure they didn't pay just to make you go away?

In this case, I can see the company is afraid that this woman sues them for not doing enough to protect her from harassment, which is why they let OP go.

>"asked her if she liked me and she said 'only as a friend"

Yet OP continued on with texting suggestively on non-work related communication even after the relationship became toxic.