Anyone looking forward to seeing the new IT movie next week?

fuck yes i am
Bought the book to read first

looking forward to the gangbang

>>743759378
I've listened to the audiobook a couple of times. From the trailers etc. looks like it's gonna be good

>>743759326
no way is beverley the same age as the others

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The faggot from stranger things is in it too

>>743759326
The original miniseries was so good, why would I want to see this and ruin it.

Whatever happened to making new movies, why make the same movie already made, with the same plot, and just changing the actors? Would you take a MJ song and say, you know what would be great, if we got some less talented guy to sing the same song?

>>743759769
Have you read the book? As much as I love the miniseries there was so much cool stuff missed out because it was made for TV

>>743759769
Animation got much better though and IT is a book/movie which MUCH room for that. The old version from approximately 1800 looks like shit.

>>743759326
Bevvies got a decent pair of titties in this pic

>>743759840
Not yet. I might someday. But watching this movie seems like going in the opposite direction.

>>743759856
you probably think great graphics makes games more fun to play

>>743759892
I saw the mini series when I was about 12 and I loved it.

But read the book a few years ago and it makes you realise how good it could've been.

Hopefully this movie does it justice

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>>743759326
Nope, read the book saw the original.
If a director producer is too stupid too come up with original material? Fuck him let him go bankrupt.There are thousands of best selling authors out there who should have their books made in to films.

>>743760007
You really don't know how the film industry works don't you?
What a sad peasant.

>>743759941
Not necessarily, but if core points cannot be brought across because the lack of technology then you may call me a graphics whore. I mean pennywise is a shape shifter, he turns up as gigant eyes or as a monster or whatever - this is nothing you can make up for with good acting.

>>743760117
But special effects can look as good if not better when using practical effects and not just CG shit.
It's not just good acting, you are a fucking moron

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>>743760069
I know exactly how it works.Which is why I do not spend money on remakes. And I bad mouth them to others as if I have seen them so others will go see something else.

How may times do we have to remake "the thing"? Mercedes Lackey has plenty of books that could be made screen plays!

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>>743759864
I'm surprised /b/ isn't all over this, I read in a review that they were disgusted that they sexualised Bev in this movie

I dunno
Tim Curry was so good, i don't want to ruin the allure

>>743760251
>Implying you can make a change on a movie that will probably make double what it cost to make

>Mercedes Lackey
Literally who?

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>>743760255
Did they even read the book? The shit that girl did... ohhh mama

>>743760192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVB6mKTmi3Q
Look at this scene for instance. This is nowhere even close to scary, and it's SUPPOSED to be scary. Please tell me again how practical effects are not inferior to animation.

>>743759423
>an orgy of underage childern discovering sexual pleasure one with another after beating the monster

Totally going to happen!

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>>743760328
Those last 50 pages hmm hmm.

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>>743760255
hope she get blacked
>i'm not a jew

>>743760251
Who spends money to watch movies anymore? Just stream that shit when it comes out. Never know, you might actually like it.

Why slate something before you see it

>>743760255
Well, honestly, she's sexualized in the books. And those kids are in early middle school. She's the only girl that most of them know that's actually nice to them. She's flirty with several of the boys in the crew....

... and in the books, when it's all said and done, the boys run train on her. True story.

To really capture the feel of middle school if you got one or two girls in an all male crew she/they WILL serve as the sexual interest of most of the crew. That's just how it is.

To remove that dynamic is to really remove a lot of the group's chemistry and change the story considerably. Though I'm sure the gangbang will be understandably cut..... that was pretty shocking even in the more lax era that the book was released.

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>>743759326
There's gonna be an IT movie!?!

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>>743760347
I bet you like jumpscares as well
Jesus can anyone be more of a pleb?

What a bunch of nerds you are. Information Technology is such a boring topic. Pathetic.

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>>743760311
>Literally who?
Illiterate oaf...

>>743760451
The boys all have a go on her in the book?

Might give this a read...

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>>743760430
Because it is not original.

Why don't you just make a copy of a dollar bill??

>>743760117
CGI leads to a lot of shit. The scale models and visual effects in the original Star Wars looked a lot better and realistic than the CGI used in the later films. Even if certain things could not be portrayed at all if not for CGI.
Hell, even the effects in the original Ghostbusters over 30 years ago were more appropriate than the gee-whiz effects in the new Ghostbusters which did not help sell the story and were fake af in their own way. I am afraid with all the "new technology" effects they are going to ruin the film. It won't be scary at all if it seems like people are running from computer fx, not to mention it's almost impossible to get effective acting if actors are reacting to things in front of a blue screen, rather than something in their presence.
For that matter, good acting and script will make up for all but the very worst special effects. It does not work going the other way, I don't care how much $$ those Transformers movies make.

>>743760603
Have you ever seen a movie based on something?
Every director (if good) gives it's own twist to the original idea.

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>>743760467
So let me clarify: You think the above posted scene is scary and does not need any improvement - right?

>>743759378
Same

>>743759423
They're leaving that part out.

>>743760526
In the very end, after they've slain it. Yes. They have a go on her.

It's a pretty good book.... but honestly, the kids portion of the story is way better than the adult part which just sort of feels phoned in. I'd give the book a solid 8/10. It could have been 10/10 if it was edited better, it's like 2000 pages if I remember right.

If they clipped it down to half that length, perhaps just using the adult portion to sort of bookend it (adults telling the story of what happened), it could have been far better.

But as Stephen King books go, it's probably one of his absolute best, IF not THE best.

It really brings back the days of youthful adventure, days that most of /b/ probably sadly missed out on.

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>>743760502
>"Illiterate oaf"
>tips fedora
>"heh... I bet he did't even read the 120 pages of the original IT script"
>"nothin personel, oaf"

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>>743760702
>They're leaving that part out.
Who would have known...

>>743760458
Thought the same thing and got severely disappointed by this thread.

>>743760526
literal gang bang. shit to make ya diamonds

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>>743760663
Did you really read my reply and think that?
wew

>>743760251
Same reason I didn't see the remake of Judge Dredd or (!) Total Recall.
y u do dis

>>743760799
Holy shit you are a fucking pleb as well! the remake of Judge Dredd is fucking god tier. The original is flawed as fuck and you should be purged if you think it's any good.

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>>743760653
Nope I don't need to see a very Brady Christmas remake to know it is shit.

As I said there have been 2 remakes of the thing. None are better then the original B&W..

They remade True Grit exact same script no way it was better with Jeff Bridges then John Wayne

>>743760799
Easy money. It's the same reason why they make "prequels" all the time now.

>>743760430
Because going to the movies is getting out and doing something, and a pleasant experience in it's own right.
Never leaving your domicile for any reason is damn depressing, even if you can technically get everything you could ever need right to your house thanks to technology.

>>743760922
So because of 1 movie that was a bad remake, all the remakes are bad?
Let me guess, feminist?

>>743761021
>Let me guess, feminist?

What would that have to do with anything? Not him, just curious how you came to this conclusion.

>>743761093
They often like to generalize

>>743760311
You really are quite unread if you don't recognize the name. It's like not knowing who Stephen King or Robert Heinlein or Shakespeare are.

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>>743760958
>pleasant experience

ok m8

>>743759326
I'll watch a bootleg first. If it's really excellent I may pay to go and see it in theatres after.

It's a very good book that really *deserves* a good adaptation. Though the original mini-series back in the 90s was honestly better than most King adaptations (which doesn't say a lot), it still wasn't very good. Tim Curry slayed as It, and there were a few legit scary scenes, but for the most part it was shit, maybe fun shit, but shit nonetheless.

I hope they do well with it, but I'm not holding my breath. King's cinematic adaptations do not have a good track record with literally only 3 that stand out as actually being good (Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption, The Shining).

>>743759426
trailers always look good, only for the movie to turn out shit afterwards. like anabelle (both parts). the only thing that was remotly good in last years in horror genre was 1st half of conjuring.

>>743761252
wait, are you implying people don't like different things

>>743760458
it actually looks like its gonna be pretty good

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>>743761271
>The Shining
I literally fell asleep while watching it.
Green mile was gud though.

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>>743761021
Are you kidding?

I have listed off far more than one in this very thread.

Remakes are crap.

There is one exception.

But I will never share it.All remakes should lose money and the directors and producers should be tarred and feathered.

There are thousands of books out there screaming out to be made in to a film.

Any producer would be served well by going to a library and asking any random kid. Hey whatchya reading? I named Mercedes Lackey, but there is also Orson Scott Card, Neal Stephenson, Or Ed Greenwood, just stacks and stacks of books waiting to be made films.

To your last question: FUCK NO Just an avid reader seeking NEW CONTENT and not the same old shit done six times. Think we really need a remake of the crow or jungle book?

>>743761360
You're absolutely right, my mistake. I'm sure those people loved that screening of the dark knight

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>>743760272

you mean the first half of it...lol

>>743761435
>Neal Stephenson
Good luck making a movie out of Cryptonomicon

>>743761435
They're remaking the crow? Duh fuck???

>>743761638
WA HAH!
WA HAH!
WA HAH!

>>743761328
You know who that is in the picture don't you?

>>743761404
That's because the internet has broken your brain. No one can appreciate mood, atmosphere, cinematics or acting anymore. After a few seconds of no explosions or rapid camera movements, got to whip out the phone and get on fb or do some candy crush
There isn't enough silence in people's lives to develop any kind of depth of thinking or creativity these days

>>743761404
King DESPISED the way they did The Shining. Hated it badly enough that he has repeated verbatim the same reviw of it every time he's been asked about it. TBF, Kubric did a shit job of it, Diane Johnson (who wrote the screenplay did a terrible job too. The ONLY decent work on the show at all are Nicholson, Duval and Crothers, who give splendid performances given the writing and dorecting they're stuck with.

>>743761749
The Crow is one of those movies that's the literal embodiment of the 90s (particularly 90s goth culture). Much like Wayne's World or Bill and Ted it perfectly represents the era that it was made.

To take any of those movies that perfectly encapsulate an era and remake them would only mean mutilating them.

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>>743761706
I was thinking snow crash. Crypt would be too much like Dune it would need a glossary.

>>743761749
>>743761842

Sad innit?

>>743761838
You are right, and this was the only remake I liked, but I still told friends it was shit.I will never market or help schill a remake.

>>743759426
Out of curiosity - How does the audiobook version handle the kid's gangbanging the girl?

Anyone who says this movie is going to be good is a piece of shit. This movie is going to be nothing but jump scars.

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>>743761825
Oh, now I get what you meant

>>743761706
Trim it down to a "good parts" version and make that. You ever read the original "Princess Bride" book? It's about twice as long as the one they turned into a movie and is stuffed with long genaeologies of the various nobles that turn up for one or two lines of dialogue. It's like reading the Old testament with all the "So-and-so begat so-and-so Jr. who begat..." interspersed with some cool writing.

Cut out 99% of the cryptobabble that only mathemeticians and their ilk will understand, much less enjoy and film the rest of it.

Better idea though, would be to turn Snowcrash or The Diamond Age into a movie.

>>743761838
Well, honestly The Shining was only *loosely* based on his work, as was The Shawshank redemption. And those came out far better than the more faithful adaptations like Needful Things, It, or Langoliers.

King DOES write some good books (though for every good book he's wrote there's about 3 turds), but for some reason the only good adaptations were done very loosely.

I don't know if you know this, but King was so butthurt about how Kubrick did The Shining that he felt obliged to make *his own version* back in the 90s as a television mini series. You know why you never heard about it? Because it sucked ass. It sucked ass bad. Just campy, cheesy, poorly written, poorly acted, with an ultra low budget.

You can't even compare King's cinematic version of the shining to Kubrick, it would be comparing a 1/10 movie (no redeeming traits) to a 9.5/10.

>>743761838
Kubrick did a good job driving that van though

>>743759423
>tfw stephan king posts 80% of all loli threads

>>743761969
>I was thinking snow crash
Maybe. Seems like something that could have been made into a film during the early 90s, not sure if you could do it today, maybe with tweaking the cyber stuff.
Like you couldn't do a remake of Hackers today?

>>743761969
I dunno. The Carpenter version of The Thing was pretty good. The prequel was mediocre, but considering that everyone who saw the 1985 version already knew how it ended...

Sometimes a remake does justice to the work. How many rebooted Batman movies are there? 3? 4? For my money, the one with Heath Ledger as the Joker is the penultimate Batman intro flick.

Most of the time you're right; it's just a cheap way to make a quick buck at best and a severe waste of time and talent at worst.

>>743761828
>There isn't enough silence in people's lives to develop any kind of depth of thinking or creativity these days
Your description doesn't fit to me though. I still find "atmosphere building" scenes [with no contribution to story or lore] boring though. It was the same when i watched scarface. When i watch a movie i want to be entertained and not bored.
On the other hand if you take a look at the lord of the rings: There are a lot of scenes (even more so in the extended cut) that didn't contribute to the story but often showed the landscape, or told small stories of unimportant characters and so on. None of these scenes were composed of having to look at the same position for like a minute with only slight changes of the camera position and nothing happening. If i want that i go hiking, if i pay for a movie i want to see shit happen.

>>743759326
No, remakes suck and ruin everything.
I used to be a spiderman fan when i was a kid, i had comics, costumes, figurines, everything. Then they made a movie, and it was OK. Then they made 30000 more and now i would rape peter parker to death if he were real.

>>743761838
Nah, bro. This is so wrong I don't even no where to begin. Kubrick did it masterfully.

There is no doubt a boring stretch in the middle. A frozen stillness in which nothing happens. The part where Jack Torrance is losing his mind. But it's intended to be that way. It's a brilliant depiction of his isolation, boredom, and disconnection from the world.

The screenplay is great, Kubrick (as always) is a master, the acting is great.

Honestly, King's orignal book is just okay. I read it after seeing the 70s Shining and the movie really lead me to believe it would be better.

But if I was King, I would be saying the same thing. It probably tears an author up inside to have a filmmaker change the story up completely and make it *far* better. It's a situation where the author can NOT be honest with himself and just acknowlege that the way they've changed it made for a far superior story.

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>>743762198
With all the PROGAY stuff today?

Mercedes Lackey's Last Herald Mage trilogy would probably make a billion dollars.

>>743762265
Nope. Batman was exactly why my first post to this thread had an image of Robin. THEY ALL SUCKED. Sure they had their moments but I am telling you there is stuff out there that would make a mint. I have been pushing Lackeys stuff for 25 years I would kill to see any of her stuff made in to a film.

>>743762290
Well, the Shining was a great film, and I fell asleep in the 2nd Bored of the Rings movie at the theater. So there's that.

>>743760799
>>743760873
How did americans come across Judge Dredd? It's not your comic. It's not your humor.

And agreed, the second one was pretty good. But I was a little dissapointed as I had just seen "The Raid" (indonesia) before.

>>743762411
I like your droll use of parrot imagery

>>743761706
have you tried reading cryptonomicon again? it's so fucking dated now...beepers.

Of his stuff, I'd like to see Diamond Age. That's his best imho.

>>743762552
Once was enough! I didn't really care for it. Then I read Snow Crash, it was a little better. Neal was recommended to me by a friend for political reasons.

Tbh the Baroque Cycle seems like a really cool concept and I've thought about reading them for years. But after Cryptonomicon and Snow Crash... I'm not so sure

>>743762198
well, you could, but you'd have to make it MUCH more realistic. The basic characters sould remain the same though.

Cyberpunk is not a dead genre, most screenwriters and directors don't understand it well enough to do it justice though. It's like Lovecraft. Either you understand and love exestential horror or you don't and you think it's just really boring and try to jam it full of jumpscares at all the wrong points.

Carpenter's "The Thing" and "In the Mouth of Madness" are some of the rare exceptions in a poorly understood genre.

a well done cyberpunk film is just as rare.

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>>743762534
Thanks...
I think?

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>>743762449
Obviously you're taste is shit.

>>743762411
I would stab three people to see Lackey's work on the big screen. Same with Heinlein's later works or Vernor Vinge's Titan Trillogy.

>>743762482
Dude, I've been reading Dredd since about 1987 when I first found him in my local comics shop. Been hooked ever since.

>>743762725
I thought you were doing it on purpose because you are talking about remakes... as a form of sly comedy

>>743762655
My buddy got me to read Cryptonomicon for much the same reason. And like you I struggled through it. Snow crash was awesome, and Diamond Age was enthralling. The same buddy has been trying to get me into the Baroque Cycle with the promise that it's like Cryptonomicon but without all the ultra-dense technobabble.

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>>743762670
>well, you could, but you'd have to make it MUCH more realistic
You mean, like Swordfish?

>>743762789
I'm gonna have to take a pass on the ogres and wizards stuff thnx

It's going to be poo caca shitty witty

>>743762982
SWEET CRIPPLED CHRIST...no. just...no.

Swordfish was fun, but it was about as realistic (technologicaly speaking) as a porn star's tits.

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>>743759326

From looking at the cinema in the background it appears that the kids' time period has been moved from 1965 to 1989. Presumably this is so they can be adults in the present day.

I think this is a bad idea. A crucial part of the book was the forest that surrounded Maine at the time, which before the age of suburbia, was still vast and dense and mysterious. And on a more general note, King could add lots of bits of period detail and touches from his own childhood in the 60s, which really helped complete the world.

And yes, I agree, Beverley looks far too old. She's supposed to be 12? Those boobs could keep a sunken aircraft carrier full of men afloat for a week.

>>743763032
That you cannot recognize awesomeness whatever it's packaging, is proof that your opinion is shit.

will there kid sex like in the original?

>>743762980
At least Cryptonomicon taught me more about cryptology than I already knew, but as a novel it wasn't doing it for me.
I don't mind getting into into some deeper stuff if it is conducive to the plot, but not to just get into it for it's own sake. Maybe these are more INTP type books.

>>743761969
>I was thinking snow crash.
>I was thinking snow crash.

I dunno man - so much of that is humor at taking the cyberpunk shit too far. It would be pretty damn hard to pull off.

>>743761838
>Kubric did a shit job of it
you gonna have to explain that, because pretty much everyone in film disagrees with you

>>743759378

Read the book when I was 11, got so scared I had to hide the book under my bed when I wasn't reading it.

>>743763143
>From looking at the cinema in the background it appears that the kids' time period has been moved from 1965 to 1989.
Just looking at the kids clothes and the rest of it, it looks like they totally nailed 1989 imo

>>743763208
You just need the right director and screenwriter.

Garth Jennings to direct and get W.D. Richter to work with Stephenson to adapt it?

>>743762980
>>743763195
I could not tolerate the baroque cycle. loved snow crash. indifferent to diamond age. loved cryptonomicon. thought reamde was meh. and his other big series I dropped off after first book.

just gonna dump a few books I really liked:

count zero / neuromancer ( gibson )
heavy weather ( bruce sterling )
pump six / wind up girl / water knife ( bacugalupi )

>>743763445
I don't know film / directors well, I'd love to see it. just have a hard time picturing it.

oh shit, I forgot to mention

VURT by jeff noon. fuckign read that man.

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The best thing about this thread is parrotbro.

>>743762109

i lol'ed

>>743763247
Pretty much everyone in film thinks Roman Polanski did nothing wrong either.

Kubric took King's novel, then hired someone who is NOT a fan of king's work AND is not a fan of horror as a genre to adapt it. It's not supposed to be a story about a man who loses his shit and tries to murder his family. It's supposed to be about a man who falls under the influence of evil supernatural forces BECAUSE he doesn't believe in them and then tries to kill his family.

All the slowly building dramatic tension wound up drained from the story. What should have been a supernatural horo tale wound up being a domestic tragedy with some creepy shit in it that only ONE FUCKING CHARACTER ever actually saw.

>>743763449
>Bacigalupi's stellar first collection of 10 stories displays the astute social commentary
>and consciousness-altering power of the very best short form science fiction. The
>Hugo-nominated The Calorie Man explores a post–fossil fuel future where genetically
>modified crops both feed and power the world, and greedy megacorporations hold the fates of
>millions in their hands. The People of Sand and Slag envisions a future Earth as a
>contaminated wasteland inhabited by virtually indestructible post-humans who consume stone
>and swim in petroleum oceans. The Tamarisk Hunter deals with the effects of global warming
>on water rights in the Southwest, while the title story, original to this volume, follows a New
>York sewage treatment worker who struggles to repair his antiquated equipment as the city's
>inhabitants succumb to the brain-damaging effects of industrial pollutants.
NO THANKS

I prefer the classics where my dystopias are government derived.

>>743763650
Thank you, but I am not parrotbro

>>743763449
Neuromancer and Count Zero were my introduction to Cyberpunk and I was instantly hooked. Never heard of the others, I'll look them up.

If you liked Snow Crash and Gibson's work, you would probably like George Alec Effenger's "When Gravity Fails" novels. Third world cyberpunk/hard boiled detective novels. Good shit.

>>743763714

This sort of willful blindness is exactly why they are going to occur. It's like seeing a slowmotion trainwreck- you know what's happening, but are quite powerless to stop it.

>>743763795

I know. Pretty sure he's already left. :(

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>>743759326
Watched the original with my gf a week ago. I couldn't stop laughing the entire time. Eddy Spaghetti died a virgin. The clown was fucking funny most appearances. "Kiss me, fat boy! AHAHAHAHA!"

She was seriously spooked and was pissed at me for laughing during the whole movie. Idk if she'll go see the new one with me now.

What about the new Blade Runner? I thought they were really going to fuck up a classic this time, but the previews gave me a small glimmer of hope.
Is there any chance at all this new film isn't going to ruin the Blade Runner universe?

>>743763482
>Jennings directed Shaun of the Dead and Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy and W.D. Richter co-wrote Big Touble in Little China and co-wrote/directed Buckaroo Banzai; Across the 8th Dimension (he also adapted Invasion of the Body Snatcher back in '78; the good one with Donald Sutherland).

>>743763985
Saw it like 15 years ago with 2 homies we were like 12-13yp they both shat their pants and needed me to get drinks from the kitchen holy shit i laughed so hard at them

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>>743759326
After that fucking abortion of a movie dark tower....
I'm boycotting anything king is part of now.

>>743763910
>>743763714

TBF, Corporations cannot exist without governemnt, so in a way, such dystopias ARE govenment derived.

>>743764015

Small glimmer of hope.

1. Not a remake.
2. Key people involved.
3. Disney is not within 1,000 lightyears of it.
4. Sony is on the other side of the solar system from it.
5. Hasn't been stuck in dev hell forever.
6. Ready acknowledgement from all involved it will need to be handled delicately.

Of course, I had high hopes for Star Trek Discovery, too. Look at what a clusterfuck that's going to be.

>>743764046
You're sure Garth Jennings directed Shaun of the Dead?

>>743764189

Tell them that when they start to hire private armies.

>>743764178

This is actually the reason I won't see it.

Well, that and I thought the source material shit the bed at the 11th hour (King's worst habit).

>>743764206
ER...my mistake. Looking at the wrong data set. He was an extra in Shaun of the Dead (apparently friends with Frost & Pegg).

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>>743759326
Only saw scenes from the first one . Dont really knoe what to expect besides a kid yelling " YOULL FLOAT TOO "

>>743764152
Tim Curry is legitimately funny as a clown, and he actually tells jokes the whole time, even if most of them are macabre. Idk how more people don't just laugh the whole time. The lore is pretty cool, and I love how it connects to all those other Steven King stories, but I even got my gf laughing at their portrayal of the only chick in the group, how she was always fainting and getting friendly massages and shit. The 80s were a different time.

Maybe this new one will be more gruesome, like show some of the kids getting dismembered. That'd set the tone a little darker.

>>743764278
They already do that. Have been since the East India Company was chartered back in 1600. Most of them just never bother to prosecute the wars they fight with bullets and bombs is all.

>>743763910
More like reasoned sightfullness. The fear of "greedy megacorporations" is laughable. Global warming will prove to be a non-crisis, even if it is occurring. And Pump Six sounds like the biggest farce since Silent Spring. Whereas you only have to look at history to see what can be done by totalitarian governments, on into the present day with what it must be like to live in North Korea. And where Twitter et. al. is leading to a world of Newspeak for real, Google Home shows the technological possibility of the telescreen, and where death of printed media will enable old news to be "edited" at whim to reflect any reality, and then changed again.
But freedom and businesses are what's going to give us our nightmare future world... sure thing.

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>>743764581
?

>>743764561

The East India company was instrumental in overthrowing the Mughals of India for the British, dude.

Do you even history?

>>743759326
original was a fucking scrap, and who the fuck even watches fucking remakes? youre all fucking faggots

>>743764581

>global warming is a scare
>businesses should be given MORE power
>governments are unquestionably evil

Go back to /pol/ , thank you for playing.

>>743759326
Not going to give any money to see that shit.
King can go suck a dick.

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>>743764189
That's kind of like saying private property can't exist without a government to enforce property rights.
If you don't even have enough of a government to protect property rights or enforce contracts, or enable businesses to operate, then you technically and metaphorically just have anarchy.

>>743764199
All valid points.

Then again, Ridley Scott and the original Alien films vs. Prometheus and that Covenant....

>>743764805
>Go back to /pol/ , thank you for playing.
/pol/ is full of fascists who want government to be given more power

Your call can not be completed as dialed, please check the number and dial again

>>743764693
No shit. But they didn't do it for free. The EIC stayed in business for better than 270 years, largely in part because they had license from the British crown to wring every halfpence from the people of India and in several cases loot it for all it was worth.

A corporation that DOES NOT have the protection of a government is a sitting duck for anyone they've ever pissed on. Soldiers COST money. War is organized waste. A corporation cnnot afford to just hire a shitload of troops and have them hand out all the time. a small security force to keep out thieves and vandals, sure. But rentacops aren;t really up to dealing with a dozen guys in body armor and actual weapons who aren't there to swipe a truckload of shit, but instead to set fire to an entire block of warehouses, blow up trucks and shoot any employees they can find.

Corporations with actual troops, use them to fight weak governments and troops acting on behalf of other corporations. If your troops aren't allowing you to make more money than they cost, then you don't NEED troops.

>>743759478
She's 15.
Look for pics from the movie Tiny Mammals. Purple shirt waterfall scene.

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>>743764673

>>743765151

No, /pol/ is full of faggots of every hue.

If you're a proponent of a completely unworkable ideology, chances are you browse /pol/.

>>743761021
The thing remake
Ghostbusters remake
A very Brady movie
Beauty and the Beast remake
Poseidon (remake of 'the poseidon adventure)
1998 remake of Godzilla
1998 remake of Psycho (1998 was a real bad year for remakes)
Karate Kid remake
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
The Goodbye Girl remake
Arthur remake
Footloose remake
Ben Hur remake
Dirty Dancing remake

There was a lot of very bad remakes. Worse yet is when they try to do a modern remake of a classic, like psycho, Dirty Dancing or Beauty and the Beast. The acting has to be spectacular to even match the original or it's an instant flop. Any changes will piss off the purists. Any effort to modernize the politics will piss off half the viewers either way. And goddamn it, gore is not nearly as scary as horror. The goriest movies in the world can't hold a candle to real horror. Watch any number of "Friday the 13th" films and then watch "wait until dark" and let me know which one scared you more. We all know which one will scare you more.

Remakes of good films is always a bad idea. Remakes of bad films can be a good. But remaking a good film never is.

>>743764924
Not at all. Corporations (SPECIFICALLY corporations) are charterd by and protected by governments. Partnerships accomplish the same function as corporations but do not require such charters. Partnerships pre-date government.

>>743765228
What some corporations are good at is spending a small amount of money to direct a massive military paid for by tax dollars into pursuing objectives that benefit their own ends. Something that would probably not be possible nor cost effective if the armies were not paid for with someone else's money against their will.

>>743765257
Whatup cuz!

>>743765228

No, they stayed in business because they became a law unto themselves. Once you're given enough power, that tends to happen.

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>>743765265
>If you're a proponent of a completely unworkable ideology
like marxism?

>>743765407

Corporations no longer need the protection of government. Many times they are arguably more powerful.

>>743765438
Agreed. Without those standing armies (provided by government) those corporations would be SOL and having to either change their business model or would go tits up and be replaced by a more functonal apparatus (if there were a demanded one that is).

>>743765265
>If you're a proponent of a completely unworkable ideology, chances are you browse /pol/.
I'm a proponent of a limited constitutional government that protects the natural rights and freedom of peoples, based on the non-aggression principle.
A completely unworkable ideology.

>>743761978
You can literally hear the guy jackin it as he's reading

>>743765512

Yep. Marxism doesn't work, full stop. Communism in general doesn't.

>>743765506
Power given to them BY THE GOVERNMENT OF FUCKING ENGLAND.

>>743765614

>i do not know that things like Blackwater exist

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>>743765512
>>743765638
Why can't faggots like you stay in your own threads?

>>743765603
And yet, it's the state that protects the assets of and prosecutes those who interfere with the profitability of corporations, not the corporations themselves.

>>743765686

Except once they had enough power, they didn't need England anymore, technically.

So explain to me how the government is still the enemy in that scenario, and not the corporation?

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What y'all talking about?

This is meant to be an IT thread you fags.

Talk about spoopy clowns and little girl boobs

>>743765614
>tits up
A capitalist in Britain??

>>743765750

>...not the corporations themselves.

Congratulations, you just stumbled across the entire point of my post; the charade of the corporation perpetually asking the government "Mother, may I?" will come to an end if they are given much more license.

They simply won't need to.

>>743765728
As the power of government grows, politics permeates every single facet of society. Everything becomes a political struggle, because government is in every thing.

>>743765855
get outta here while u still can

>>743765855
Is that the new pennywise? looks pretty cool tbf

>>743765867

They're gutting their NHS in an attempt to make their healthcare more like ours, guy.

They could not suck anymore Yankee dick if they tried.

>>743765927
They will no longer need to ask the government "mother may I", they will just have to rely on their customers to exist.
Unless they get to a point where they don't have to rely on voluntary customers giving them business, and just take things with armed force. But at that point they really aren't a corporation any more, but a government.

>>743765974
No, it's his brother, poundfoolish

>>743762346
You seem very anti fun

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>>743765931
We are discussing a MOVIE. A movie which is as unpolitical as possible, and still you can't shut the fuck up with your constant shilling for your political agenda. I don't even give a fuck who you support, stay in your own thread where you can freely nourish your delusions faggot.

>>743765699
You mean Academi?

You have any idea how much Academi charges for it's operators? You can't afford to hire a company of Academi mercs for garrison duty at your warehouse or your factory. Not for any length of time, you'd go broke. Meanwhile the folks you fucked over, the ones who want to put you out of business for giving their kids cancer or dumping 10 billion gallons of oil all over their livlihood, or murdered their kinfolk so you could buy their land, wait and watch until you either send the mercs away or you file Chapter 11. Either way, you're going to wind up out of business.

A business that has no outside (functionally free) protection MUST behave ethically lest it be put out of business by those it has treated unethically.

>>743766105
Are you saying 4chan needs a government to force people to stay in their own threads?

>>743766173
Nah, i think calling out faggots for their faggotry will do.

>>743766049

>Unless they get to a point where they don't have to rely on voluntary customers giving them business, and just take things with armed force. But at that point they really aren't a corporation any more, but a government.

...I love how you're so goddamned close to my point that you're basically stubbing your toe and tripping on it, only to acknowledge you have, in fact, found the point I was making but that it totally isn't ever gonna happen

Congratulations, dipshit; you've found the premise of basically ever 1980's dystopian sci-fi novel ever written. Now you know why the fucking make them in the first place.

>>743762177
haha but actually that's the literal FBI

>>743766236
Welcome to non-authoritarianism : )

>>743766109

...And, once again, you are willfully sailing past my point. A price isn't fucking fixed and immovable, faggot. It can be negotiated and even knocked down a good bit by backroom deals (give us a steep discount on your services and we'll let you pillage our new "customers", I bet your employees would really like that!).

>>743765789
They didn't need england anymore? Where do you think they got the majority of their troops from? The Crown LOANED the EIC troops. What is the EIC going to do if they tell the crow to fuck off and the crown responds by imponding all of their goods in british properties, arresting the EIC's officers and shareholders and issuing orders to the Royal Navy to sieze or sink all EIC ships? Oh, and issuing orders to all those lovely, red-coated, well-disciplined troops they loaned the EIC to capture or kill all EIC employees and sieze all monies and goods of the company. Oh, and the Bank of England just stops honoring their credit and freezes all their assets.

No, the EIC was never more powerful than the crown, no matter how much they (or you) thought they might be.

>>743765867
Alaska

>>743765995
that would actually be an improvment. Unfortunately the US uis woring on gutting it's healthcare system to make it into the NHS.