What should I get for my first gun?

Anything that you can shoot yourself with.

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>>743452269

>>743452350
/Thread

>>743452269
S&W .38 snub nosed revolver.
You can put it in your pocket.

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>>743452269
Glock

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>>743452460
Glock in .380

>>743452269
Howitzer.
Smoothbore or bust.

>>743452350
So a bb gun?

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>>743452559
Put a silence on that glock

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On average, it's disadvantageous to own a gun. Only special snowflakes think otherwise.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GunsAreCool/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GunsAreCool/

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>>743452460
that's a M1911 you dumb nigger

>>743452269
Get yourself a decent pump shotgun. Good for home defense, not widely restricted if it's factory stock, even if you live in commiestan.

The Mossberg Maverick is supposed to be a cut-rate 500 series with most of the good features intact. Good stopping power, legal almost anywhere, and built solid enough to be more of a danger to whatever you're pointing it at than yourself.

If you want to get into a specific sport, or you want to carry concealed, this is less than optimal, but for a first gun, you can't really go wrong with a quality shotgun or a full-size service pistol.

>>743454745
Stop, you're not trolling anyone
Obvious bait fag/

>>743453471
I think you got it wrong. Stupid and mentally Ill should not have them.

>>743454777
GODDAMIT TRIPS
I want a carry gun

>>743454858
Yeah, we all know it's a glock >>743454745

>>743452269
Glock 19, 15 round. Seems like the best handgun for the money that's out there.

Been researching for a while.

>>743454777
Or an army surplus bolt action. Lee Enfields, although rising in price, are great guns. Unfortunately, ammo for them is expensive. You could try getting a rifle that's chambered for a cheap round too so then you can practice a lot without putting a huge hole in your wallet

>>743454987
CARRY GUN YOU DUMB ASSHOLE

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>>743454876
well, for a carry gun you can't go wrong with a pfiefer zeliska .600 NE

>>743452269
A 50cal machinegun or a gatling-replica. If that is too exotic try a wallgun or a puntgun, i heard they are great for beginners.

>>743454979
In all honesty, my family uses glock, they also use Iphones

I'm a android man, and id sooner trust my life to a hipoint

>>743455116
Nah, maybe just a desert eagle
I wanna conceal carry

>>743454868
If you're on this website at this hour, you are stupid and/or mentally ill.

>>743452686
Nice silencer, obvious quality trigger. Looks like an awesome glock.

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>>743455228
a barrett M82 should be more your style then

>>743454987
Can't deny the surplus bolt rifle as a solid option. Maybe not as practical for use during a home invasion, but good idea there.

>>743454876
Well you should have said this in the OP.
I'm not really up to speed on compact handguns, but you're probably looking for a 9mm with a compact poly frame and double stack magazine. Glock makes a few models with these features, but there are others.

If you ask /k/, you'll probably get better responses. They know their shit. Also, you might want to stay away from Taurus. They have a reputation for going from gun to grenade at the worst times.

>>743455350
Great for squirrel hunting, but too long to carry all day

>>743455370
Fuck 9mm
Go big or go home
45, nothing else

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>>743455095
IMO, Hasbro's Nerf Rebelle Sweet Revenge is the best for that. It's a more streamlined Hammershot. Harder to find though so you may need to settle for a Hammershot.

>>743455228
I use a pal-40 for concealed carry. I hide it up my ass and no that is not gay... it's perfectly heterosexual and if you get attacked by armored vehicles or light tanks you are good zo go. I also carry some additional he-shells for anti-infantry combat.

>>743455509
A bit overpowered for me

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>>743455350
might be too powerful,
here OP this is a good concealed carry gun.

>>743455175
Android here too. Glock 19, 15rd gen 4 is the best out there. Dead reliable, good handling and easy to conceal. A million mods for them too.

If money was no object though, I'd get a Five Seven.

>>743455545
>pal-40
Ok

>>743455613
Hipoint is dead reliable too

>>743455631
Pak-40... try typing with a gun up your ass and we talk again, faggot.

>>743455664
Don't know if I like the way that sounds....

>>743455613
Doesn't 5.7 meme pistol cause way more tinnitus than most other handguns if you ever need to use it?

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cz75

Best beginning caliber .22LR very little recoil.

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>>743455690
>Pak-40
Looks underpowered

>>743452269
Go to a local range and rent a few guns that interest you. Buy the one that you like to fire the most and you'll maximize your satisfaction.

Plus you get to sample a lot in the process. This is the intelligent way to do it and save yourself from buying a gun you may never enjoy to the fullest.

>>743455694
Better than nothing
Glock 40, problem solver right here

>>743455716
It fires armor piercing rounds. Never heard one fire, but I'd expect it would be pretty loud.

I was born with tinnitus so it's never really something I look into.

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I'm enjoying this one. Load it with the cheap third party solid tip darts and you can have some fun when your masochistic partner is restrained.

>>743455722
CZs are fucking quality. I want one so bad so I can get my ass kicked in IPSC stock division.

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>>743455858

>>743455735
Fuck that
45acp
go big or go home

>>743455864
Damn, now I want to break out my old nerf shit and the duct tape....

>>743455864
Too over powered for me

>>743455770
It's for concealed carry man. I'm not a faggot, so i cant fit a railway gun in my ass.

>>743455782
Most ranges don't allow solo rentals, and what are the odds of a /b/ OP having friends?

>>743455997
Idk
it is a 40, so you must be preatty gay for not using 45

>>743455973
Literally an anti-material pistol. Hasbro's lawyers won't let it be more powerful. That had to design the darts with airbags to make it safe enough.

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>>743452269
Mossberg 500, cheap as fuck, reliable, and effective

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I'd recommend a .22 LR rifle. Simple to operate, light, zero recoil, and relatively cheap.
>Pic related is what I have, a Marlin XT-22

>>743456076
Idk, i'm not legally allowed to handle anything more dangerous than a book

>>743456166
>>743456126
CARRY GUN!!!!

>>743456064
Yes you dont know, there is no 45 and 40 stands for the year production started 1940... kinda like in a colt 1911. It's a 7.5cm anti-tank-gun and i already told you it's perfectly heterosexual ty carry on of those in your anus.

>>743456167
What's more dangerous than a book?

>>743456202
Why can't you carry a mossberg

>>743455928
https://youtu.be/58hDI7bk02U

Doesn't seem any louder than normal to me. Not like you're going to be using in self defense situations very often, if ever, anyway.

>>743456226
Butt a 1911 is in 45
Hence, not gay

>>743456227
Nukes

>>743456227
someone who can enact their interpretation of it.

>>743456202
You know, as badly as you're reacting to people trying to give you genuine advice, maybe you shouldn't have a deadly weapon on you at all times? That, and specify in the OP what you're using it for.

>>743456258
>>743456267
>>743456267
>>743456267
BECAUSE IT"S NOT A FUCKING PISTOL

>>743456270
Amd a pak-40 is in 7.5cm... how is that gay? It's a decent sized shell for civilian use.

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>>743456202
OP didn't specify. But in that case, Glock 17 all the way. Or a subcompact.

>>743456202
You never said so in the op, how were we supposed to know

>>743452355
Fucking A man.

>>743456348
How about an mg-42?

>>743456326
I wish I could shoot you

/k/ will know, ask them.

>>743456376
me too

>>743456348
Gayer than a Pk-40 us the ass

>>743456326
Hahaha butthurt gunfag is butthurt... suck my luger you bitch.

>>743456379
Too impractical.

>>743456337
Ptrs 41 all the way

>>743456411
I did
I pissed them off too, heheheh

>>743456227
The pen.

>>743456433
Wtf? It's not gay you fucking idiot. Good luck defending yourself against drunken russians in t-34 tanks with your shitty pistol

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>>743456446
An rpg-7?

>>743456463
14.5×114mm has too much recoil for a new shooter.

>>743456523
I said a glock is gayer
cmon baby, you know I love your dick

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>>743453471
On average, I just found out I can have whatever I want from you because when I point a gun at you you think you statistically hold an advantage.

>>743456594
Dont come near me, i'm armed and heterosexual!

>>743455819
Hi-point does the same thing for 1/3 the price. Fuck off with your expensive toys

Hi-point makes what glock pretends to: cheap no frills tool built to function reliably

>>743456026
>mmost ranges don't allow solo rentals
The fuck are you talking about?

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>>743452269
Yesterday I buy for self defense
ICBM is best
Glock is ban
Glock is homosexuality

>>743456594
There's nothing wrong with a Glock 17. Easy-to-use, easy to disassemble and clean, light, 9mm hits plenty hard.
>I posted this from an iPhone

>>743456738
How would a holstered gun help if you already have one pointed at me?

>>743455858
Armor piercing doesn't mean they shoot harder or faster, the gun shoots nearly as hard as it can without blowing up every time no matter what it's shooting. Armor piercing ammo is literally harder, so it won't smash when it hits armor, and instead poke a hole and go right through.

Think steel instead of lead.

>>743456843
Too many suicide attempts from solo renters so most require having someone else there.

>>743456893
Criminals do this thing called risk assessment. You don't generally point a gun at someone who's open carrying, because even if you have an advantage you're still in a standoff with a deadly, cornered animal.

If you're concealed carrying?
>oh hold on anon here let me reach into my back pocket to get my wallet
>here it is
>KRAKOW POW POW BANG

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>>743452269

20mm

>>743456937
This is the most insane myth I've ever heard. It may be true that ONE RANGE SOMEWHERE does this shit, but nah. I've never been told "lol we need you to have a friend so you wont kys before we can rent you our automatic lolol"

Try not living in NY or cali, maybe.

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>>743456948

20mm with .50 cal next to it

>>743456898
Well, with defensive loads, sure. Unless you count 9mm and .40, where defensive loads are low powered for "quicker followup shots" aka "so you can magdump faster with your garbage shot placement"

but plinking rounds will still have super low pressure.

I'm sure you were talking about self defense shootings, but it doesn't hurt to be particular

>>743457002
The larger ranges in Minnesota have that rule.

>>743456880
>hits plenty hard.
How does this even matter? It's not like you can keep attacking someone after getting hit by caliber for humans. It's like gettimg stabbed you wont chase anybody, you wont fire any aimed shots anymore or even spit at him unless you are on ketamin or an afghan mujaheddin.

>>743457042
>Don't you shoot me or my son ever again.

>>743452269
One you are not legally allowed to get. Keep it hidden, it's a trophy.

>>743457068
Watch out, every single year you guys nearly get insane gun legislation passed. RIGHT NOW there are two fucking extreme gun control bills alive

it doesn't surprise me you have a faggot of a "gun culture" too

>>743457136
Minnesota has a higher rate of gun ownership than Texas.

>>743456948
anything smaller than 40mm for home defense is pointless

>>743457098
Holy shit, are you kidding?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsE_m2z1NrvF2ImeNWh84mw

Please educate yourself. A bullet isn't an "off switch for men," and plenty of dudes full of 9mm holes went on to kill cops. Have you not fucking heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout ?

PLEASE shut your fucking mouth if you don't know what you're talking about

PLEASE

>>743457098
not true, most people in a high pressure situation dont notice they've been shot until they see the wound because of the adrenaline and nerve damage

>>743457206
Ownership doesn't mean anything other than ownership. Google your shit before you start to think you live in a gun paradise, YOUR STATE NEEDS PEOPLE LIKE YOU VOTING ON SHIT SO YOU NEED TO BE EDUCATED OR YOU'LL END UP WITH FORWARD ASSISTS BANNED LIKE CALI

>>743457042
>50cal can penetrate light vehicle armor
>20mm cant penetrate heavy armor
>20mm can hardly be carried by a single man
>20mm has no other function than amr
For what is that even usefull?

>>743457270
Good. I don't like dumbasses like you having easy access to guns.

I'm not even American and as most people in this thread have already suggested, I'm pretty sure a Glock is the go-to first gun.

Fairly cheap, reliable..

Also you can turn it sideways for Gangsta aim and that improves your accuracy by 105863%

>>743457098
Getting shot with a .22 can be deadly, don't get me wrong. But a hollow point 9mm round is GUARANTEED to stop anyone in their tracks.

>>743454979
I very much prefer glock trigger over other soft squishy triggers. I went with a G22 as my carry. I hardly ever carry but it's what I got. I shoot the .40 much better than 9mm for some reason. I just need to lighten the trigger on mine.

>>743457442
9x19 is so much more comfortable and easy to shoot. Glock 17/19 all the way.

>>743456898
The FN Five seveN (yes, they're fags for stylizing it like that, fucking Belgians) fires a specialized overpressure round, the same one the P90 fires. It is louder if you're shooting the good shit. The higher muzzle velocity of the 5.7x28mm cartridge is what is supposed to make it more effective against armor than a conventional 9mm round.

>>743452269
Glock 19 gen4

>>743457554
I agree. Glock 17/Glock 19 any day of the week.

>>743457270
Wait, california banned forward assists? What the fuck are you supposed to do when your shitty Stoner carbine jams like it always does?

Oh, wait, you already have to take the upper off every ten rounds. Never mind. Carry on California.

>>743452269
Depends on conditions, will it be your only gun?
A glock is good if you never plan to use it but what it to work if you ever do.
A 12ga shotgun is good if all you want to do is hunt and or protect your house.
An AR 15 is good if you are going to be doing more range stuff but want a defense gun too.
10-22 or similar if all you want to do is play round an do plinking.

But for me my first was a 1911 and I don't regret it.

>>743457355
Lol, can you even read?

>>743457424
Yes. Anything bigger than 9mm for a handgun for selfdefense is honestly a joke. You dont defend yourself against ppl in bodyarmor or armored vehicles and you dont defend yourself against people behind walls. 9mm is enough to stop everyone. Why do you retards think the police and even military forces all over the world are using 9mm handguns lf they cant stop people in stressful situations?

>>743457515
The P90/PS90 is so weird. The mag, the ejection port being on the bottom, the overall look of it, the mini ACOG everybody mounts on it... I love it to death and I think it's cool that it's ambidextrous but so many things about it are unusual.

>>743457424
>>743457860
PLEASE STOP TROLLING, YOU BOTH KNOW FIFTY CENT WAS SHOT WITH TENS OF 9MM ROUNDS AND LIVED

>>743457515
It's not overpressured unless it's actually overpressured.

.22WMR can penetrate body armor, too. Any small projectile with a lot of powder behind it will. .357 was designed to go through auto glass and still maintain trajectory for a fatal wound.

It's not "armor piercing," though. It's just a "hot(fast) round"

>>743458017
Overpressured as in +P which literally means "over the standard pressure" or +P+ which menas "so high above standard pressure there are no arbitrary ratings"

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>>743452269
Kel Tec P-11 9mm. Great carry gun. Quality nigger protection.

>>743457786
Glocks get the job done just fine when it comes to self/home defense. 20ga is fine for small game and better for home defense in my opinion because it's easier for women/kids to handle. AR-15 is fun to shoot, definitely good for hunting and the range. Picatinny rails are also nice. But, 5.56×45mm tends to overpenetrate, which is why I don't recommend it for home defense.

>>743457786
Also, starting out with a .45 will teach new shooters to anticipate recoil and it'll throw their shot off.

>>743458089
When you start dealing with +p you loose all economy that comes with a smaller round.

If you are firing +p hollow point 9mm then for the same price you could buy 30-06 and fire it out of a cut down M1 with better effect.

>>743458351
I don't even know what to say to anything you just said. It's all borderline retarded.

+P comes with no "penalties" and I'd like you to describe bullet "economy" for me.

You make a round hotter, it penetrates further. Period. End of discussion.

>>743457496
Both the 9x19 and .40 really come down to preferences. They are both great and essentially equal rounds. Regardless, no matter what you're using will work. You could use a .22 and that'd be a great round to use.

>>743457871
It was the future of firearms in the 1990s, kind of how the CZ was the future in its time. I like the aesthetic, but it is kind of eccentric. I don't think I'd buy one unless I already had a sizable wall going on.

Also, the one thing it has going for it, the 5.7x28mm ammunition is in my opinion its fatal flaw. It's found literally nowhere in the wild, as opposed to 5.56, 9mm, and a lot of other more common bullets. Personally, I'd prefer something a bit more common so that in a worst case scenario I could trade for more ammunition.

You know FN made an experimental shotgun with a p90 style magazine? Fukkin dope.

>>743458426
>+P9mm: 500ftlbs
>30-06: 3000ftlbs
WELL NO SHIT A RIFLE ROUND IS STRONGER. DO YOU EVEN OWN A GUN???????

>>743458130
Got to love compacts. Subcompact G26 is more my cup of tea, though.

>>743458504
I meant this for
>>743458351

>>743458351
lol at that point why don't you just edc >>743455116

Since we're carrying giant chopped down rifles under our trenchcoat for self defense, why not just get a revolver designed to be one?

Or maybe a magnum research BFR in 45-70?

>>743458224
20ga and you start to get into a difficulty finding shells and rifles. If you are going for a shotgun get a real one and just get lighter loads in your ammo.

It all depends on your home defense scenario, it is just you gunfighting unknow with some random assassin or are you standing in a hallway with your family at your back?
I wouldn't recommend the 5.56 for home defense if you have a family but it is fine if you live alone.

>>743458518
Nice. Would carry.

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>>743457217
9mm has plenty of stopping power.

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>>743457217

>>743452269
Chain gun from the warthog attack plane
>BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>743458330
I get better groupings with my .45 than with my 9mm or my ar 15.

It likely isn't a one size fits all but it works for me.

Also the .45 recoil isn't that bad unless you are trying to shoot it out of some lightweight polymer garbage.

>>743458504
They both cost about a dollar a round off the shelf.
Why spend the same amount of money on an inferior round?

>>743458589
Who is talking about EDC?

OP is much more likely to survive a gunfight on the street my running. The only time standing your ground makes the most sense is at home. In that case you don't need to conceal shit, you just need to be able to operate under stress.

>>743459253
top tier jhp 9mm +p is 50cent/round....anyone paying more is getting jewed.

>>743459181
So .45 GAP Glocks are garbage in your opinion?

>>743459253
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CARRY A CHOPPED DOWN RIFLE THAT SHOOTS 6 TIMES AS HARD AND EXPECT IT TO DO THE SAME JOB??????????????????

>>743459647
.45GAP is a dead round, and the corpse is rotting. Ammo is expensive, it wont kill a man any more dead than .45acp.

>>743459647
Garbage as a self defense gun for a newbie. I love the .45 ACP but coming out of a light polymer gun it can scare a newbie.

>>743459785
GAP isn't ACP.

Glock Automatic Pistol
Autmatic Colt Pistol

GAP shoots as hard as .45, with a slightly reinforced, shorter casing with a small pistol primer instead of large.

>>743459628
I stand corrected. 9mm +p is only a bit more expensive than .45 ball ammo.

IMO those ammo types are pretty equivalent, I just prefer .45 because I can pull tighter groups with my R1 than my VP9.

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Get yourself a Glock
Get yourself a Sig P320
Get yourself a Mossberg 590 SP
Get yourself an AR-15
GET YOURSELF A FUCKING SCAR

>>743459941
if you're
>lol carry a chopped down m1
then you stand COMPLETELY FUCKING RETARDED.

>>743459383
Yeah, right. Just get the >>743456948 then, right?

>what should I get for my first gun?
>chopped down M1 so you have to pay the tax on an SBR

>>743459775
If .45 GAP came out before .40 S&W it would be wide that used.

>>743459775
*widely used

>>743452269
SIG P210

>>743460053
Yep, just like if 9mm came out int he 90s we would have something better already.

Reality didn't happen that way, though, so .45GAP is hard to find and expensive just based on supply and demand. So it's a stupid round to pick, unless you're a handloader.

>>743459939
Your gun fires a proprietary round?

And on lucky gunner GAP is 50% more expensive than ACP...

The best round is the one you can afford to train with regularly. If you can afford defense ammo or proprietary rounds then by all means go with those.

>>743460125
Not mine, I'm arguing against it for that very reason.
>The best round is the one you can afford to train with regularly. If you can afford defense ammo or proprietary rounds then by all means go with those.
This is super true. Unless you want something for a specific reason, go with 9mm/.40(preferably 9) because you can shoot more and get better faster.

>>743458847
>>743458830
>SEE THEY USE 9MM
You're responding to someone who was making a counterpoint to "lol you get shot once with 9mm, you aint shooting back foo"

If you think 9mm is a one stop shop, then by all means shoot someone who has a gun once in the chest with a single shot break action 9x19 derringer and tell me if you live.

>>743460047
Don't be a cunt. No one asked for some snaky cunt to show up.

The point is you should use whatever you want for home defense as long as you can afford to train with your defense round. Fuck concealing something on your body, all that matter is how well you could use it in a defensive fight.

You pull out a beret or some crazy shit and the attackers could just shit themselves and run even after a miss. This is still a win even if it can't be depended upon.

>>743460239
The man makese sense. With the way guns are used in self defense, typically with all rounds being fired before the shooter knows it even with train shooters such as law enforcement. Then yeah 9mm, more training and more rounds per mag.

Only reason I would choose .45 over 9mm is I shoot better with that gun, maybe the crisp single action is helping but all I know is that I can do better with one over the other.

>>743452269
Not that pice of shit

>>743460659
What's wrong with a flintlock? When you shoot, it creates a smokescreen to get away. Brilliant if you ask me.

>>743454876
My first carry gun was a Springfield XD MOD 2 in 9mm. It's a 3 inch sub-compact polymer frame that holds 13 rounds in the short mag and 16 rounds in the longer mag. Great reviews and easy to field strip. I bought a Pierce mag extender for the shorter mag and it's just enough to get my pinky on the grip. But you really need to go into a gun shop and feel the grips of a bunch of different guns. It all comes down to what feels comfortable in your hand.

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>>743452269