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Give me one serious reason to believe in atheism.

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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Give me one serious reason to believe in atheism.
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one reason?

ok, because you dont "believe in" it.

you believe in there being an invisible, intangiable, ephemeral being or beings that supposedly have omnipitent powers over us, without there being any evidence for them.

not believing in any such nonsense is what constitutes atheism.
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>>743171065
/thread
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>>743171065
Bible and Jesus, also many paranormal stuff can be taken as a evidence.
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>>743171247
jesus was real ? right...

and the bible.? I have a book here that says the bible is made up and full of lies.. so whats your point ?
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>>743171246
this
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if no one believed in god would he exist?

I think thats all you need to think about. Anything based entirely in "faith" ceases to exist once nobody is actually thinking about it..
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>>743171407
Atheism is based on faith. You don't know what was on the beginning.
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religion is a terrible and ridiculous way to find truth
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>>743171492
you are a troll
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>>743171330
You mean "the Gods delusion" ? AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>743171531
No, i just said fact.
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>>743171065
Maaaate, I'm on your side as a fellow non-religiotard, but make sure you know the definition of a word before you use it. "Ephemeral" refers to something fleeting or temporary. It comes from the word Ephemera, which is a genus of beetle with a short life-span. The absurd god of christfaggotry is claimed to be the opposite.

Perhaps you meant ethereal.
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>>743171492
wow

atheism is based on faith ... ORLY ? id love to hear this explained without requiring some LSD
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>>743171247
dont think you understand what "evidence" is.

evidence is something which is repeatable, can be observed by all, which has verifiable proof behind it.

"your honour, this is a gun! it proves the accused was the murderer".
Is not evidence.

"Your honour, this gun was found on the accused when he was arrested. it had been discharged twice, and bullets fired from the gun were a ballistic match to the two found in the body, as you can read in this report".
That is evidence.
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>>743170498
>the bible is the word of god
>it says so in the bible

checkm8 atheists
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>>743171542
>the Gods delusion
>gods

That's what he should have called it, to remind christfags that their laughable little god is just one of thousands of fabricated gods.

Also, when you find some evidence that your god actually exists, you will be able to talk about that, instead of hats. Then you will look less retarded.
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>>743171765
You are wrong. Atheism is a rejection of all Gods, not just some. That makes your argument invalid.
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HELL YEAH SPIDEY THREAD
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>>743171620
Resistance to learning is one of the surest signs of stupidity. You have my sympathy.
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>>743171680
Your idea of evidence is shitty, i don't think its a definition of real evidence or proof.
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>>743170498
>believe
>in atheism
You mean antitheism? Not believing in god and believing there is no god are two different things - after all, you don't believe in all those 2k gods invented throughout the history, do you? That makes you an atheist as well.
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If God's not real, the explain this. Checkmate athiests!
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NIGGA YOU AINT THE REAL SPIDEY
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>>743171065
You believe "in the beginning nothing exploded and here we all are".
>inb4 hurr durr where did God come from then?
Hush, pumpkin. Don't strain that sweet little noggin. God as a being exists outside of time and space - something incomprehensible for temporal, corporeal beings such ourselves, If you could comprehend God you would have to be God. But you're not.
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>>743172049
Nice strawman.
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>>743170498
You're pretty much fucking retarded aren't you? Do you have to wear a helmet or are you just garden variety retarded?

The whole point of atheism is "no theism" - you don't need to believe in anything.

This topic is so old and tired. I really don't know what you fucktards get out of it.
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>>743172174
Atheism is a claim that God doesn't exist. It means that it needs evidence.
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>>743171247
Except in reality never anything paranormal happened. James Randy is still sitting on them 1000k bucks for the first person who can actually do something paranormal. 100s tried 0 succeded, so stfu.
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>>743172256
>Atheism is a claim that God doesn't exist
False, try again.
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>>743172049
>Hush, pumpkin. Don't strain that sweet little noggin. God as a being exists outside of time and space - something incomprehensible for temporal
Great. How do you know that? And why are so many denominations of Christianity and an innumerable amount of proposed true gods? Are they all correct? Are you a God?
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>>743172318
Why are there*
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>>743171407
Idiot wtf is going on in your head? Christians believe god made them, so how is his existance coupled to the believes of individuals who didnt exist before he made them? Can you think for one minute before you post?
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>>743172296
False ? Because what ? Idiot. You try again.
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>>743172318
They are talking about same God, dumbass. Go back to your basement fedora and paint nails black.
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>Because what ?
Factually false. Atheism is absence of belief, not belief in non-existence.
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>>743171492
Atheists also dont come up with stories and proclaim them as unarguable truth, like religious people do. In fact if you had a brain you'd understand that in "the beginning" spacetime didnt exist and there is no way to find out what exactly happened. Goddamn read a book.
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>They are talking about same God, dumbass.
How do you know that? And why haven't only monotheistic regions existed if that's true? Don't forget to prove even that one God exists too. The floor is yours.
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>>743172641
Monotheistic religions*
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>>743172256
>Atheism is a claim that God doesn't exist. It means that it needs evidence.

No. Theism is a claim that God exists. That, is what needs evidence.

I can also say that a teapot does not orbit Mars. I do not need evidence to say that there is no such thing.
If you, however, say that a teapot is in orbit around mars, it is your job to provide evidence.

in the words of carl Sagan: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And the idea that there is an omnipitent extradimensional being that created the universe and watches over us and disapproves when you masturbate is pretty fucking extraordinary.
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>>743172490
There are at least 2 gods in christianity itself, how are they the same?
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>>743172504
Because what ? Because you say so ?
AHAHAHA, look at this loser and laugh hard guys.
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>>743172714
>Because what ?
Because it's defined as such. You can continue fighting strawmans though.
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>>743172700
Google trinity and dont fucking post on threads with zopocs you have 0 knowledge on you imbicil.>>743172731
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>believe in atheism
I see here the root of your misunderstanding
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>>743172550
Cry some more, fedora.
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>>743170498
give me one reason to believe in sky wizard
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>3 things are actually one thing, and not even all branches of Christianity accept that
Top logic here I see.
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>>743172700
Because of the trinity they became one, or some bs like that don't ask me, i'm an atheist.
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>>743170498
you dont believe in atheism, thats the whole point
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>>743173053
Spooky
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>>743173053
There's no chocolate rain you fucking skeleton.
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>>743172687
But you keep saying that atheism is true. Go and prove it.
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>>743170498
I thought athieism is the lack of belief
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>>743172885
Give me one reason to believe in magic grandpa dawkins that will magicaly remove crime and intolerance by killing all believers.
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Nice strawman.
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>Give me one reason to believe in magic grandpa dawkins that will magicaly remove crime and intolerance by killing all believers.
Muslims.
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>>743171455
Yah damn right we don't!
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>>743173515
Its not strawman, i don't worship dick dwakins that promisses to kill all Christians. You are doing that.
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>>743173151
>But you keep saying that atheism is true. Go and prove it.

Again, you do not understand.

you cannot disprove a negative. The only way to "prove" athiesm, is proving it wrong, by showing through hard evidence that there IS a god.
I am not going to spend my life looking for something that I does not exist, to "prove" my stance.

that is your job.
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>>743173545
Yeah, but why not kill all atheists. They killed over 100 million people in less than 100 years. Just look at communism, almost all communists were atheists.
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>>743173151
He is an atheist because there is no evidence of god. You are a theist because a 2000 year old book says there's a space daddy that floats around in the universe watching you masturbate
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>>743173585
>i don't worship dick Dawkins that promisses to kill all Christians
Neither do I.
>You are doing that.
>Its not strawman
It clearly is strawman.
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>>743173647
Good strawman
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>>743173738
At least i'm moral, unlike you.
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>>743173795
I dont think you know what a "strawman" is either.
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>>743173800
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>>743173654
Yeah, let's just ignore the crusades and the fact that Hitler was a Christian. Pope himself congratulated him on his birthday. If religious people had modern weapons and modern population they would have killed just as many people.
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>>743173151
>But you keep saying that atheism is true. Go and prove it.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1801540/
http://izt.ciens.ucv.ve/ecologia/Archivos/ECOLOGIA_DE%20_POBLACIONES_Hasta%202004/ECOL_POBLAC_Hasta%202004_(O-Z)/STRINGER_2003.PDF
https://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-powered-the-big-bang
https://www.amnh.org/explore/resource-collections/cosmic-horizons/case-study-the-cosmic-microwave-background-radiation/
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v543/n7643/full/nature21377.html
Not him and not at all related to atheism, but I hope we're done here.
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>>743173927
>Hitler was a Christian
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>>743174007
You not proved atheism. You just proved that big bang or other scientific things are true. There is a possiblity that God exist threfore it makes athiesm a belief. Not fact.
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>>743174052
Educate myself my boy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP_iNCGH9kY
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>>743174172
*yourself
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>>743174052
>>Hitler was a Christian
Oh, my poor dear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz42hBg4jys
And please explain why he and all german soldiers in the WWII wore a cross on their uniforms.
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>>743174148
>You not proved atheism
Are you capable of having a conversation in English first of all? Atheism doesn't make any positive claims. How can you not get that through your head?
https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/
>There is a possiblity that God exist threfore it makes athiesm a belief
Great, there's a possibility. There's a possibility of an innumerable ammount of claims being true, but reasonable people don't just assume their convictions are all correct, because of the sheer possibility alone. You have the floor - tell us which God you believe in and provide evidence that such a being exists.
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>>743170498
none cares, the only people who care about converting others out of religion are sjws, rest of atheists just want u to go fuck yourself
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>>743174652
Yeah, no one ever killed in the name of religion and people haven't suffered in the name of religion either. We should just hide in rainbows and sunshine until bad people go away.
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>>743174172
His Yahwe videos are hilarious.
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>>743174740
ur grandgrandgrandparents u mean? unless youre a muslim born in a muslim country u didnt go through shit go fuckyourself
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>>743175039
Have you heard about these things called empathy, compassion and selflessness?
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>>743175039
This post gave me cancer.
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>>743175134
fuck you

>>743175184
i hope u die from it
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you get the comfort that the world is not some esoteric monstrosity you need saving from
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>>743170498
The scary thing about atheism is that its scientifically sensible.
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Sadly, this accounts for the majority of the arguments made here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDS_hE_UYWA
There's a possiblity of a God existing, therefore God exists... This is just sad.
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>>743170498
Athiesists are dumb. That's why I worship satan
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>>743176001
I'll bite. That's still better than Christianity, except for the "eye for an eye" rule.
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>>743175841
>There's a possiblity of a God existing
ayy lmao
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>>743176070
Oh, and by the way, Satanists don't worship a being, nor do they believe such a being exists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpaN6YIf5PI
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>>743173837
>Calling a random dickhead on the internet "immoral" because he has an opposite opinion
Is that what Space Daddy told you to do?
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Religion keeps us retarded.
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>>743173837
>At least i'm moral, unlike you.
https://www.uni-muenster.de/imperia/md/content/kfg-normenbegruendung/intern/publikationen/_fellows/38_engelhardt_-_secular_morality_after_foundations.pdf
http://www.eurel.info/IMG/pdf/voas-storm.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4476139/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4345965/
Learn something.
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>>743176229
Some do. Theistic and spiritual Satanists exist.
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>>743172049
>Proving your own lack of understanding of the big bang theory
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>>743176434
Religious precursors developed our consciousness. To regard it as useless superstition is fundamentally dangerous.
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>>743176826
>Religious precursors developed our consciousness
You know what else did? Science. If it wasn't for the popularization of science and an unbiased, evidence based approach to discovery, Europe would still get decimated from the black plague and praying for it to go away.
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>>743176826
>Religious precursors developed our consciousness.
What does this mean?
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>>743177002
And would still be praying*
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>>743176528
Did you really expect him to real all that shit. Btw thanks for backing me up
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>>743176826
QED
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>>743177899
>Did you really expect him to real all that shit.
Oh, no. True savages like you don't right. Why would they even need to when everything's already in the Bible?
>Btw thanks for backing me up
If you read the headlines, you'd realize that you just embarrassed yourself and that I'm not actually agreeing with you. But hey, religions thrive on ignorance and everything that could take away that ignorance is a bad thing in your eyes.
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>>743178259
Don't read*
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>>743177048
I find it hard to believe that jesus and satan doesnt exist in all of us, because it does. In my life I have seen very gruesome acts and also acts of great charity. Stop trying to judge the bible on a scientific basis. John, Moses etc, were NOT scientists.
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>>743178408
>I find it hard to believe that jesus and satan doesnt exist in all of us
Finding something hard to believe doesn't mean it isn't so.
>because it does
Prove it.
>In my life I have seen very gruesome acts and also acts of great charity
Sure, doesn't mean that Jesus and Satan exist.
>Stop trying to judge the bible on a scientific basis.
On what other basis should I judge it?
>John, Moses etc, were NOT scientists.
How does that matter?
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>>743178408
Righteous man, western civilization was built on christian judaeo principles. wether people choose to acknowledge that or not. U dont have to be a religious person to enact religious principles.
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>>743178408
>I find it hard to believe that jesus and satan doesnt exist in all of us, because
it does.
Argument from ignorance fallacy. Because I can't think of a better explanation, any possible and presumably unfalsifiable explanation is therefore valid.
>In my life I have seen very gruesome acts and also acts of great charity.
Personal anecdotes don't prove anything. You can feel strongly that prayer works for example, but that tells us nothing about the validity of the claim.
>Stop trying to judge the bible on a scientific basis. John, Moses etc, were NOT scientists.
Great. But science exists even if they weren't alive at the time of its inception. And why shouldn't we use scientific methods for examining Holy books? I know why - because religions thrive on ignorance and everything that could take away that ignorance is a bad thing in your eyes.
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>>743178665
>western civilization was built on christian judaeo principles
It was also built on secular reasoning. You don't find things like freedom of speech and freedom of religion in the Bible.
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>>743178551
Okay then, prove to me that civilization has improved since the movement of modern science. I find that a harder thing to prove.
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>>743178665
You don't know what you're talking about. Here's an Englishman educating an American citizen on the constitution of his own country:
https://youtu.be/U0iA6CN449s
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>>743178798
Not him, but:
>>743176528
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>>743178798
>prove to me that civilization has improved since the movement of modern science
Lifespans are longer, more people have more rights, wealth has increased.
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>>743172490

if they're the same god then why have religious wars been fought between differing christian denominations?
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>>743178887
Christopher hitchens was a brilliant man, im actually an atheist aswell. Science is essential to our existence, but morality cannot be extracted from it. Ignore this fact at ur peril.
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>>743178408
>>743178408
Stop trying to cure diseases with science! Bacteria are not scientists!

You sound like a fucking moron.
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>>743178798
Oh, and by the way, the inventor of the MRI is a young Earth creationist, but he still had some sense to not actually pray for people who are ill and actually do something about it.
https://youtu.be/cuutXnjFjLY
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>>743179020
>Science is essential to our existence, but morality cannot be extracted from it
Depending on how you define morality, yes, it can.
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>>743178978
Theyre improvements on a scientific level. Why should living forever be a good thing? I realise ur not advocating immortality, but an extended life hardly bears any reason that meaning is able to emerge itself.
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>>743179020
His oratory skills and charisma are rivaled only by Hitler. What's most astounding is his quick wit, powerful argumentation and eloquence. How does one even learn the accent he had? Not posh, not cockney, but respectful, sophisticated and grounded.
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>>743179194
Is there any reason "scientific" reason why i should care for the life of someone else?
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>>743179378
Psychiatric disorders are scientifically provable human traits, yes.
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>>743179277
>Theyre improvements on a scientific level.
What does that mean?
>Why should living forever be a good thing?
I didn't say it was, but are you saying that dying early is good?
>an extended life hardly bears any reason that meaning is able to emerge itself
This is gibberish.
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>>743179378
Yup we need each other to survive.
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>>743179378
Sure. You can demonstrate that working together with others allows you to achieve goals more efficiently than working alone. That being the case, the lives of others matter. In addition, fostering a society in which the lives of others should be cared about increases the likelihood that others will care about you.
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>>743179441
Well why is a psychiatric disorder a immoral thing? Its an anomaly i realise, but theres no reason to think its imoral if u base ur reasoning on strictly scientific reasoning. Science is so convincing, and so provable, but we forget our limitations if we rise it to the top of our idealistic structure, it cannot provide a way of acting in the world, period, wether u disagree or not. This is my opinion btw.
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>>743179679
I don't think you have a point in your post. Secular mortality exists, if you aren't aware and it's the superior one.
>>743176528
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>>743179779
Morality*
Damn it.
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>>743179611
Okay, so why should the duration of life be cared about? Science cant provide a meaning as to why life should endure, if meaning is void then why should life exist anyway? I was a very nihilistic person, and i find it hard to abandon the ideas that surround it, but the alternative to meaning in life is death, u want that? And if not, WHY dont u want that? To be happy? Well what is happiness? Stop trying to advocate that we know so much about the human psyche. We need science to improve our understanding, i agree with that, but we also need tradition to ground ourselves in humility, or else we idolise the very proveable theories that we create.
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Why religionfags did even try to argument? Its obvious that there is no god its all fake, it comes just from a stupid old book. There is no proof.
Accept it you weak faggots
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>>743180083
You are contradicting yourself at every sentence.
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>>743179358
Yes, an amazing man, a historical figure, no doubt.
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>>743180145
lol no u
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>>743180083
>Okay, so why should the duration of life be cared about?
We like living. While you are alive, you can enjoy life.
>Science cant provide a meaning as to why life should endure
It can provide a meaning as to why life wants to endure.
>Well what is happiness?
A brain state.
>Stop trying to advocate that we know so much about the human psyche.
We know quite a bit more than we did before the scientific revolution.
>we also need tradition to ground ourselves in humility
Why?
>else we idolise the very proveable theories that we create.
How do you figure? Also, how is idolizing tradition better?
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>>743179779
Well tell my why u dont murder anyone then, theyve probably got a lot of things u want. And yeh, u wouldnt want that happening to u, but why should u care if it happens to someone else? Try propagating the fact that anything can be dealt with subjectively instead of universally, see what happens.
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>>743180442
Religion does not solve the "problem" you are raising here.
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>>743180442
Your argumentation is confusing and yet again, you don't have a conscise point.
>Well tell my why u dont murder anyone then, theyve probably got a lot of things u want
I've already explained that. If you weren't born with a psychiatric disorder, you have no such desires. And again, empathy, compassion and selflessness are traits of people without a psychiatric disorder.
>Try propagating the fact that anything can be dealt with subjectively instead of universally, see what happens.
Are you actually arguing for moral subjectivism?
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>>743180423
Theres no reason to think that things that make certain people make everyone happy, theres no objective grounding to exactly what makes us happy. We know what happens when happiness shows itself in our brains, but we dont know what happiness is anyway. Humans know absolutely nothing about consciousness. Im not trying to advocate the existence of god btw, i find him hard to believe in myself, but i find it wise to accept that we dont know everything, and that maybe the limitations we posses means that we can NEVER know everything. This is the scientific reasoning, i know that. But a judgement that we were superstitiously fooling ourselves for thousands of years and then suddenly BAM, we substituted it with scientific reasoning is ridiculous. Btw, to the other comment, arguing for religious purpose IS contradictory and irrational, which is why no one does it, and the decline of spirituality is what is dividing us into teams.
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>>743180994
>Theres no reason to think that things that make certain people make everyone happy
I never said there was, but people are more similar than they are different.
>theres no objective grounding to exactly what makes us happy
Isn't there?
>We know what happens when happiness shows itself in our brains, but we dont know what happiness is anyway.
If you don't know what it is, how can you even talk about it?
>Humans know absolutely nothing about consciousness.
Because consciousness is poorly defined. Humans know a lot about the brain and mind.
>to accept that we dont know everything
Sure.
> that maybe the limitations we posses means that we can NEVER know everything
Maybe. So what?
>But a judgement that we were superstitiously fooling ourselves for thousands of years and then suddenly BAM, we substituted it with scientific reasoning is ridiculous.
Why?
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>>743181273
Well, u stumped me, really. BUT, "so what?"? Okay then, let us keep a nihilistic view of life and see where that gets us. I believe that ur arguing AGAINST nihilism, but u cant tell me that u dont act out religious principles, wether u know it or not, OR wether u choose to define it as traditionally religious or not. Atoms dont tell us how we should act.
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>>743181556
>let us keep a nihilistic view of life and see where that gets us.
I never said that.
>I believe that ur arguing AGAINST nihilism
Yep.
>u cant tell me that u dont act out religious principles, wether u know it or not
Sure I do, when those religious principles happen to coincide with my principles. What I don't do is act on anything because they are religious.
>wether u choose to define it as traditionally religious or not
What does that mean?
>Atoms dont tell us how we should act.
Individual atoms don't. Collections of atoms (us) do.
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>>743170498
get a dictionary and try again
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>>743181273
>>743181807
Not him, but you still don't have a concise point. What are you even arguing for at this point?
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>>743181910
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>>743182009
>still
This is the first time I've been accused of that this thread.
>don't have a concise point
My point is that the guy I've been talking to hasn't made a case for anything.
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>>743181807
"Collection of atoms (us)" - I dont understand what that means sorry. And i dont mean that u should abide by something religious because its religious, but symbolically, we evolved on the ideal depiction of jesus as the ideal persona that man should enact to prolong our species. But theres no scientific reason as to WHY we should prolong our species, maybe its cause we wanna live on, but who the hell knows where that desire comes from anyway. The idea of god could be of everything we DONT KNOW, and could NEVER KNOW, but science WANTS to know everything, it desires the satisfaction of it. Maybe we could, one day, but we're very limited creatures, and if we want to step forward as a revolution of scientific reasoning then maybe we should remember where we came from first.
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>>743182185
I've quoted your post by mistake. I meant to quote:
>>743181807
>>743180083
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>>743182185
4chans a ridiculous arena to engage this debate in i guess, mostly cause we're both anonymous, but i stand by the notion that realising we dont know everything enlightens us. Whatever the fuck enlighten means
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>>743182317
>"Collection of atoms (us)" - I dont understand what that means sorry.
It's pretty simple. You are composed of atoms.
>we evolved on the ideal depiction of jesus as the ideal persona that man should enact to prolong our species
No, we didn't.
>But theres no scientific reason as to WHY we should prolong our species
Because we want to.
>who the hell knows where that desire comes from anyway
We do. It's from biological evolution. Life that doesn't want to prolong itself dies out.
>The idea of god could be of everything we DONT KNOW, and could NEVER KNOW,
Maybe, maybe not. So what?
>science WANTS to know everything
Which drives us to learn more.
> if we want to step forward as a revolution of scientific reasoning then maybe we should remember where we came from first.
I'm not advocating that we destroy the history books. There's a big difference between remembering the past and being a slave to it.
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>>743182613
>i stand by the notion that realising we dont know everything enlightens us
Sure. If we thought we knew everything, science would be done.
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>>743182774
All great points, i still dont understand why we WANT to though, what is WANT? And why do we WANT things that are benificial to our existence. Cause u can then ask what is existence? Is it a pursuit of meaning? And what is the meaning that drives us to prolong our species and WANT it in the first place?
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>>743183013
>what is WANT?
The desire to possess or do something.
> why do we WANT things that are benificial to our existence
Because having that desire will be selected for by evolution.
>Cause u can then ask what is existence?
The state of having objective reality.
>Is it a pursuit of meaning?
No. Air does not have a pursuit of meaning, yet it exists.
>And what is the meaning that drives us to prolong our species and WANT it in the first place?
There is no intrinsic meaning. We are driven to prolong our species because we evolved that way. If you want subjective meaning to why you want to live, you have to give that to yourself.
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>>743170498
Remember to always sage
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>>743183376
Want = desire? Ok then what is desire? These are poorly defined terms anon, that are not described by science at all, and u still havent provided any evidence that it can define em..
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>>743183810
>Ok then what is desire?
A particular brain state caused by various stimuli.
>These are poorly defined terms anon, that are not described by science at all,
Brain states are described by science.
>u still havent provided any evidence that it can define em
MRIs.
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>>743171680
>>743171765
>That's what he should have called it, to remind christfags that their laughable little god is just one of thousands of fabricated gods.
The only people who take the bible literally are idiots. They are stories that portray various human archetypes. Atheism isn't the most logical conclusion either. I don't know whether some force exists but it's possible it does, statistically it would make more sense.
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>>743184196
>statistically it would make more sense.
Oh, boy. Just as I thought you'd be 100% reasonable. How can you even pretend to know that?
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>>743184196
>Atheism isn't the most logical conclusion either.
An atheist is someone who does not believe in gods. An atheist might conclude that no gods exist, but it isn't necessary.
>I don't know whether some force exists but it's possible it does, statistically it would make more sense.
What statistics? Also, keep in mind that "making sense" doesn't make something true or even likely true.
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im six drinks deep atm and ive just started with the 12 year old el dorado
come at me bro
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>>743184847
What are you even talking about?
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>>743171948
Genes.
Checkmate, theist.
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>>743171065
but Atheism is a belief
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>>743185094
alcoholism
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