Is this gay?

Yes.

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Not very

Where can I get this full picture set of Mariana Cordoba?

>>743078361
dude wtf how big is that dick like damn bro

I mean it is a guy fucking a girl....

>>743078637
>a girl
You sure about that anon?

>>743078361
It's hot!

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>>743078572
http://shemalestardb.com/galls/ts-mariana-cordoba-fucking-another-shema/52535/

>>743078581
10 inch

>>743078734
Well no. Is the blonde a trap too?

>>743078361
Idk but why the fuck is she sucking dick with a condom

>>743078361
Who cares?

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>>743078942
Le reddit detected

>>743078905
aids

>>743079145
Oh, all the care bear fags live on /b/ now? Thanks Stormfront.

Is it a little bit gay that I want to be spit roasted between them?

>>743079308
Just a little.

>>743078857
That's a very liberal way of using the word "fucking" but thanks anon

>>743078361
Yes

>>743078361
i watched belladonna get drilled from both ends by two pretty convincing traps once. never been so aroused yet horrified in my life. par for the course around here i.m sure.

Everything is gay

all traps are gay

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>>743079577
Danielle Foxx & Vicki Richter

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>>743078361

>>743079766
futa is 2D only.
3D only has men with tits

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>>743079766
>summer
>school

>>743079766
Futa can only exist in fiction. In reality, a trap is male genitalia + male body = male.

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>>743078361

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>>743079995
>male body

>>743079995
Real traps don't have male bodies

>>743080117
Yes. You can try to alter a male body to look female, but it's still male.

>>743078857
you wouldnt happen to know the name of the other shemale, would you?

>>743080158
See >>743080197

kind of, i'm assuming the girl is actually a girl. if it's another trap then yes.

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>>743080214
nope

>>743080197
When taking proper pills you alter the in your body to change your body from that of a man to a woman

>>743080397
No, you don't. You've just reshaped a male body to look female. It's still male (XY).

>>743080393
damn, recognized mariana instantly, but the other one seems nice too

>>743080464
We're not talking about chromosomes were talking about the body. With proper chemical change you can change a male into a female and a female into a male

>>743080567
>We're not talking about chromosomes were talking about the body
The chromosomes are the nice little tag to tell you about the body.
>With proper chemical change you can change a male into a female and a female into a male
Nope. You can make a male look female and a female look male, but the male is still male and the female is still female.

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>>743080735

>>743080735
this

>>743080735
Anon please, you're among fellow trap lovers. No need to fight it, to put up a front for the "straight" fags. We all know that fucking a trap isn't gay. Don't worry about it. That cute little feminine dick just gets you hard, us too buddy

>>743080735
>YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT MUH DEFINISHUNS
>STOP DOING THINGS I DONT LIKE

Is this the "white privilege" everyone's been talking about? No wonder the whole world wants to genocide you faggots.

>>743081048
Go easy on him anon, he's just trying to keep his love for it in the closet. His parents probably aren't very accepting of his desires. It's our job to make him feel comfortable so he knows he can be himself in this thread

>>743081039

more please. or info plz

>>743081136
Sorry, it's just too easy to mock post-orgasm guilt shitposts.

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>>743081039

>>743078530
Sauce?

>>743081039
that's pretty gay.
Got any more?

>>743081204
I know it is, I know. He'll come creeping out, they all do

>>743080464
i very briefly dated a post-op tranny. all female in every respect. still deep down she was a guy. could not handle that, no matter how much of a woman she is.

biology is biology, at least at the mental level i would argue for most people. it all comes down to how your brain is wired.

i believe in trans right, i believe that an individual has the right to define who they wish to bet within reason.
the whole ordeal just felt utterly wrong. couldn't do it. it's just the way i'm. i'm straight and only am aroused or interested by the genuine article.

>>743078361
Only if the person sucking the guy's dick ALSO has a dick.

>>743081306
Are you claiming that a man whose brain is wired like a woman and get surgery to become that is not genuine?

>>743081295
But when will we reach the critical mass required for nonstop hedonistic sissy orgy? I'm getting tired of waiting to dress up and dominate a cutie!

>>743081421
:-( I know, as am I. We're just going to have to settle for the small orgies for now.

>>743081306
Sure. There's nothing wrong with being trans, there's nothing wrong with being attracted to trans, and there's also nothing wrong with not being attracted to trans.

I'm just saying that they are still male. If they want to call themselves female, they can, but they are male to me.

To some other posters:
>implying I'm going to take the bait
ayy lmao

>>743081237
Its Op's anus

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>>743081306
>post-op
disgusting d-gen

>>743081385
brain wired like a woman or just mental illness.

>>743081514
>they are still male to me
That doesn't make them a male tho, you're not the be-all end-all of gender decisions

>>743081605
Mental illness or just what you say here on /b/ so that you can feel better after you're done jerking off?

>>743081648
>That doesn't make them a male tho
To me it does.
>you're not the be-all end-all of gender decisions
No one is. Them calling themselves female doesn't make it so. You calling them female doesn't make it so.

>>743081796
I'm pretty sure you have the final say on what your gender is. It's your gender

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>>743081742
C'mon cuck, you can do better, can't you?

>>743081893
You have the final say on what your gender is to you. I have the final say on what your gender is to me.

I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me.

>>743081385
no of course not. what i meant was biologically born female. cis scum i believe is the term. for me i mean, not the woman.

as i stated i did briefly date a post-op trans male to female. i just couldn't do it. like cold sweats, anxiety attack not able to continue dating her. i did try but i suppose, in the end, it's the way i'm wired. attracted to biologically born females.

there's little i could have done, despite my efforts to overlook the an arguably primitive subconscious response to her. i didn't want to break out in cold sweats and have near panic attacks. it's simply how my brain and body reacted to her in the end.

i feel badly about it but i don't feel guilty.

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>>743081796
clearly a female

>>743081977
Well it sounds like you handled it as best you could so that makes you a good person

>>743082066
Dude, you could have chosen so many trans people who at least look like woman but you go with that. C'mon man

>>743081967
No you don't have any say in the gender except your own. Claiming that you can choose somebody else's gender is just ignorant and stupid.

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>>743082116
siiiiir she's 9/10

It's a shame Mariana's been dead for a year now

>>743082175
>No you don't have any say in the gender except your own.
Yes, I can, and you can't stop me.
>Claiming that you can choose somebody else's gender is just ignorant and stupid.
How so?

If you say your fingerbox is a priceless antique and I say that it's a worthless piece of junk, which of us is correct? Are you right because it's your fingerbox? Do I not have a say?

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>>743082286
She got married and is living a normal life.

>>743082330
No because you're talking about an inanimate object and trying to put a price point on it. The gender of a living breathing human being in the value of an inanimate object or two very different things

>>743082430
>The gender of a living breathing human being in the value of an inanimate object or two very different things
In this context it's the same point, but I'll give you another example if you like.

If you say that you're a dragon and I say that you're a human, which of us is correct? Are you right because it's your label? Do I not have a say?

>>743082567
Again isn't the same argument. You are now talking about what a person identifies as racially. Your gender and your race are again two very different things

>>743081967
this may be guilding the lily to a degree.

you most certainly have the right to define your own gender but i think it's a little much to say that you have the final say on how someone else defines their gender, or how you define them.

the individual's definition of themselves is the one that matters. i think it would be incredibly cruel for someone who defines themselves as female and then everyone else gets to say no, you're still a man.

having respect for each other is one of the ways in which we are (theoretically at least) be a pluralistic society, as opposed to some crazy ass theocracy.

at the very least, i think ,y points are worth thinking about.

you start telling people they can define others in any way you choose, regardless of the person's own personal definition of who they are we end up with massive breakdowns in the social contract. at the very least, a civilized society.

i do agree that we can disagree, and everyone is free to voice their opinion on the matter.

it always confuses me, that there are people on both sides of this argument who are adamant one way or the other about people's "gayness". why are people so aggressively adamant that people who like traps/shemales/whatever are gay and why are people who like those things so defensive about being called gay? you like what you like, and any label someone gives you doesn't change that. if you like only shemales and someone calls you gay, guess what, you don't suddenly like masculine dudes.

and same goes for the gender thing. it can be an interesting discussion, but one side cant accept that times and definitions change, and the other cant accept that there is historical and scientific precedent for a dichotomy of genders.

>>743078361
R.I.P Mariana

>>743082689
>Again isn't the same argument.
It's analogous.
>You are now talking about what a person identifies as racially.
The key point here is that we're talking about what a person's subjective labels something as.
>Your gender and your race are again two very different things
You are being obtuse.

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>>743082738
reddit.....please go

>>743082689
actually no, you are talking about what species they identify as. racial identification IS just as fluid because race doesn't exist scientifically except as an arbitrary grouping or in sociological terms as an amorphous cultural grouping

>>743082839
Your right about that anon. My mistake for confusing race and species

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Femenine penis
http://baja-opcionez.com/category/shemales/

>>743082818
I would argue that you're the one being obtuse but I guess that's just the nature of a discussion like this

>>743082709
>you most certainly have the right to define your own gender
Correct.
>i think it's a little much to say that you have the final say on how someone else defines their gender
Right.
>how you define them.
No, see, it works both ways. You cannot unilaterally control the definition of others. I do not have to accept your definitions.
>the individual's definition of themselves is the one that matters
To them.
>i think it would be incredibly cruel for someone who defines themselves as female and then everyone else gets to say no, you're still a man.
>having respect for each other is one of the ways in which we are (theoretically at least) be a pluralistic society, as opposed to some crazy ass theocracy.
Freedom of speech and expression are necessary for such a society.
>you start telling people they can define others in any way you choose, regardless of the person's own personal definition of who they are we end up with massive breakdowns in the social contract.
This starts veering off course, but we do need to do this. It doesn't matter if you define yourself as innocent if the rest of us define you as guilty, for instance.

>>743083058
I'd like to see you try to make that case, when you are the one who rejects analogy on irrelevant grounds.

>>743078361
wow thats one big bla... oh wait

>>743083242
But you're the one that's claiming that they are relevant. Why is it allowed to be relevant because you say so if I think it's irrelevant?

>>743081039
yap thats 2 guy alright, only guys wanna get in deep like that, strap on lesbian porn never get it right.

>>743082709
the problem with the position that everyone can define their own gender is that it becomes inherently meaningless, for the purposes of the discussions that it is usually involved in.

it becomes like talking about what sports you like, or what you are going to do on your holidays. it is no longer a statistically significant indicator of any potential outcome, so in terms of public policy and the way people interact in wider society, it isn't informative or useful. that is what causes the social contract breakdown, because we lose the common ground that allows us to approach a novel individual with any certainty of outcome.

i agree that people should be fair and nice in general to each other. the real issue in this whole debate is that instead of creating a new term or form for talking about this, a word that has previously been well understood has been hijacked and subverted. it would be simple enough to say something like my "gender expression" is X (X = literally any self identified term for identity). or even create a new word completely, like gendex, identigex, etc. this failure to separate terms leads to defensiveness, feelings based arguments and miscommunication.

>>743083336
>Why is it allowed to be relevant because you say so if I think it's irrelevant?
Because your reasons for claiming they are irrelevant are immaterial to the discussion. Saying that a living human being and an inanimate object are two very different things has nothing to do with anything, for instance.

>>743083502
No it has everything to do with the topic at hand. You're refusing to look at this conversation from any angle but your own. Calling me immature when you refuse to see things from the other side doesn't exactly make you the mature party

>>743080796
Who dis

>>743082738
because the majority of people were raised to believe that homosexuality was taboo from a young age by one cherry picked verse from the book of Levitivus.

Other passages along with the pronouncement against homosexuality include:
-Touching the skin of a pig makes one unclean
-Stoning to death for storing dairy and meat in the same space (think refrigerator)
-Stoning by death to any farmers who plant dissimilar crops next to each other (corn and soybeans for example)
-The ability to sell your daughters into slavery

There's many more, but you get the idea. A series of laws with draconian punishments that no longer make any sense within the context of a modern society; not to mention the fact that the Christian church was supposed to teach the gospels of the new testament which was supposed to make the old testament obsolete.

When you know the history and have at least a basic knowledge of the western religions, it becomes clear that the prohibition against homosexuality should never have made it to the modern era simply, if for no other reason, all of the other admonishment in Leviticus were essentially abandoned.

it's an obsolete holdover from an obsolete time many thousands of years in our distant past. In today's context it simply is a dated idea that somehow managed to claw its way into the 21st century. That really sad if you think about it.

>>743081039
this is paradise ?

>>743083618
new phone

>>743083502
actually, it has a lot to do with a lot of different things. its not that it is irrelevant, but rather that it is meaningless unless contextualized. you have to say WHY they are very different things (especially considering, in many ways, they are very similar things: exist physically, can be described, has subjective value)

>>743083606
>No it has everything to do with the topic at hand.
How so?
>You're refusing to look at this conversation from any angle but your own.
You haven't given me any other angle to look at.
>Calling me immature
I didn't call you immature. I called you obtuse.
>you refuse to see things from the other side
I haven't refused to see anything. You haven't made a case for your side.

>>743083737
I guess I should have been more specific and said "nothing to do with the discussion we are currently engaged in".

>>743082079
My thanks /b/rother for the kind words. I can't claim to be a "good" person necessarily, but i do try to be one.

>>743083747
It's pretty obvious by now that you have no desire to have an actual discussion and simply want to push her own point. It genuinely makes me sad when people who seem to be quite intelligent are so stuck. You "win" anon. I'm obviously just a mentally ill man in your world and should seek help.

shes still got the balls so yes

>>743083691
i understand your point, though i disagree there aren't modern rational sociological arguments for rejecting homosexuality (not that i agree with, but they exist).

that being said, i think my point was more about why we are even concerned about these labels at all. not specifically homosexuality, but rather, we all like what we like, and what someone else calls us doesn't change that. no need to agree with someone else's terminology, but shit, people need to learn to do their own thing and enjoy being themselves.

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>>743083933
right, but my point still stands. it wasn't about that specific phrase, but rather than when you claim something IS something, you need to justify WHY it is that thing. simply claiming it is or is not relevant nonsense without context as to why it is or isn't.

>>743084000
>It's pretty obvious by now that you have no desire to have an actual discussion
I would say the same about you, since you seem either unable or unwilling to engage in a meaningful way.
>simply want to push her own point
Obviously I want to make my case, but that doesn't mean that I'm not open to being shown wrong.
>It genuinely makes me sad when people who seem to be quite intelligent are so stuck.
You've done nothing to even try to "unstick" me.
>I'm obviously just a mentally ill man in your world and should seek help.
I never said you were mentally ill or should seek help. Indeed, I've said that there is nothing wrong with being trans.

>>743078361
Are you a guy? And is that a penis? If both of those are yes then you gay nigga.

>>743078361
it's a fetish pls stop asking this you insecure morons

>>743083165
i do understand the point you're making but i don't think it's helpful to associate trans with an allegory concerning criminal justice. These are very disparate issues, so it does come across, at least, as a logical fallacy to insinuate that gender identity is some sort of crime.

I'm sure that's the furthest thing from your mind, just having a bit of fun /b/rother ;)

That said i do think it's important to keep in mind how you compare things.

I'd say for the most part we are more or less on the same page however.

It's nice to engage in some true intellectual discussion, so you my thanks for that.

I wish our politicians could take a fucking clue from /b/

>>743084623

>It's nice to engage in some true intellectual discussion, so you my thanks for that.

Fuck off, this is /b/, post some pics of chicks with dicks

>>743078361
No she`s not touching her balls.

>>743082411

She died. Ana Mancini was a friend of hers and posted about it personally. The industry is well-known for being hush about deaths.

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>>743083618

Bianca Freire

>>743085316
i think this chick is fucking amazing, but i can never find any good videos. they're always boring or shitty angles.

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>>743085431

Yep. There are a couple of good videos but her image sets are far better.

She is GOAT as far as looks, though.

>>743078862
You is a gay now

>>743083371
I would say a couple of things here in response.

1) For the reasons you stated, the government does require declaration of gender. You can go off calling yourself whatever the hell you want but the government does require that the gender of a citizen is made clear.

2) This is a relatively, if I may borrow a word from you, new and novel public phenomena. True it's been a fighting for recognition for a long time but it's only really in about the last decade that it's come to the forefront and is now recognized legitimately.

3) It's important to remember that progress is painful and slow, yet certain, in the public square (so to speak). This is probably exacerbated by the fact that the gender identity movement is a relatively new movement and one that many citizens is not entirely comfortable with-especially in the wake of the success of marriage equality. Accommodating our fellow citizens that struggle (or not) with gender identity are not helped by this fact.

4) I agree with you that nomenclature or labels (whether the trans community likes it or not) will become necessary within the framework of this emerging group. The problem I see with that is two-fold. First, I don't think we're there yet as a society; in all honesty I'm not sure the trans community is either. Secondly, coming up with a new term at this point in the integration process could potentially caused trans people to be thought of, or worse, treated, as second or third class citizens. They wouldn't be the first group to experience this type of discrimination at the hands of the US and our government. It's not the same in the fact that they are already citizens, all born and bred Americans regardless of what gender they define themselves by. This is a delicate issue and it must be handled properly.

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>>743085552
actually she's the goat for me as far as looks

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I'm a tranny with a bf, it's not gay because I am very girly and curvy and have boobs

>>743084119
The simplest explanation would be that, as a species or maybe just as a society, we feel the need to quantify and understand things-essentially what or who are they and how many of them are there? Perhaps it's a holdover from our very ancient days. One of the earliest stories after the creation, in the context of Judaeo-Christian paradigm, is the one where Adam names all of the animals of the planet.

I believe that we have a need of labels because that helps us to understand them, or at least contextualize, within our world view. If we can name them, we can begin to understand them, and eventually not live in fear of them and in some cases accept them.

The real problem here is that, by and large, the average person is stubborn to change and as such the process can be longer or more laborious that it might be otherwise.

That's just my theory though. I don't claim to be an expert in socioeconomic, political, philosophical, or theological issues. The only thing I can say with any degree of certainty is that they all are important to the fabric that makes up our existence and our ability to understand where we came from so we know where we are and where we're going.

>>743085867

1) correct, though its not just government that needs it. the average person on the street also needs certainty in interaction, else general interaction on the street become too fraught with hidden triggers etc (given the state of the SJW culture, that is).

2) novel = new, no need to use both. in fact, its a specialised type of new. im not sure which phenomenon specifically you are referring to here, sorry.

3) using the word progress is both subjective and biased. it implies that there is necessarily a positive aspect to allowing or promoting self-identifying gender expression, which is by no means widely accepted, or proven to be beneficial to society or those self-identifying. it could be argued that is a regression to a less civilised and less scientifically informed and rigorous time.

4) the problem is, that as with marriage equality, rather than focus on things like equality of rights, people have chosen to make a stand over nomenclature that was already in use. this dilutes the goals of the movement and encourages division and defensiveness on the part of those who aren't sure about it, let alone those who are actively against it. in all honesty, i dont think it could see them viewed any worse than they generally are in most places, though that is just an opinion. the real problem is that there is virtually no chance of that disparate group coming up with a unified label given there labelling in the past few years ( i speak of the LGBTQI+ debacles) and there is no real incentive to promote a new term for all by the status quo. interesting that you think this only affects Americans though...

>>743086263
it's not like im going to say no to either..

>>743086885
>>743086745
Stop with ur autism, I'm a tranny and this whole thread is dumb

>>743086745
again, its not that i dont understand the need to label things...but this is clearly an example of labelling to hate, not labelling to understand because both sides shows a marked lack of attempt to understand.

either way, the issue, in my mind, is that the need to correct someones ELSES label they are using to describe you/me makes no sense, particularly when a) they are no one, anonymous and b) it has no effect whatsoever on one's character or identity.

>>743087052
well, uh, im not a tranny? (not sure why you felt it was necessary to share that) and no, i'm more than happy to keep discussing this with anyone that wants to.

>>743086263

Name?

>>743081237
looks like its a prego jar

>>743087299
Don't have a right to talk about trans issues since you ain't trans

>>743087419
a) i have the right to talk about whatever i want, whenever i want.
b) we are not discussing "trans issues" since a gender expression is a thing that ALL people would have
c) that is a nonsense position, indicative of the negative outcome that SJW and similar groups have on important discussions. can vets not talk about dogs because they aren't dogs? psychologists cant talk about depression unless they have it? not being a thing doesn't mean you cant be educated on, have experience about, or use logic pertaining to any issue.
d)how are you going to stop me?

>>743087419
>can't talk about racism since you ain't black
>can't talk about government corruption since you ain't a corrupt politician
>can't talk about books since you ain't an author
>can't talk about shitty parents since you ain't a parent

Fuck off with that shit, your mentality is a pox on society.

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This thread needs less faggotry and more traps

>>743078361
Are they both traps? If yes, yes. If not, no, its a gay guy getting a straight bj.

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Shame about being full-blown crazy. Was cute as fuck during this time.