What do you think about nazism?

Here's the deal about nazis, they make cool shit, they don't do politics so well. Porsche 911? An amazing machine. Killing homos and Jews and others? Not so amazing.

good but fucked the jews

>>742907906
They got Germany out of an economic depression

>>742907769
Probably better than what we have now.

>>742907769
leftist ideology ...

the holocaust was probably the funniest thing that has ever happened in all of histroy, it's a shame it never happened

>>742907769
National socialism is pretty much the best way to move a nation forward as far as I can see.

And the idea that genocide goes hand in hand with it is a fallacy. Hitler brought that into the equation himself personally.

>>742907769
when sht smells like roses

>>742907769
It was the correct political response for Germany at the time, But it's day have passed and it should be seen as such

>>742907769
The German economy during the Nazi era was largely socialist and was dependent on expansion of borders and theft. The German economy started to collapse as soon as Germany stopped expanding.

>>742907769
Could have been amazing but they fucked up badly. If they just kicked the Jews out of their country, Germany would have become a world superpower. Instead, they killed all the Jews and tried the world domination thing.

The Jews in Germany needed to go, but killing them all wasn't the answer.

Shitty leadership and unrealistic goals, combined with the shittiest alliances( i.e. Japan, Italy)

>>742908867
they didnt try to kill all the jews lol a bunch of butthurt heebs made all that shit up after the war and the soviets altered the camps in poland to look like death camps

>>742907769
>nazism
ya'll need jesus

>>742908099
...and right in to losing yet another WW.

>>742909042
and the winner of the alex jones bullshit award is.....YOU

fucktwad.

>>742908505
Also. Conspiracy theory time.

I firmly believe that WW2 was set up by the global communist order solely to demonise the only ideology that can stand in their way. National Socialism. That the entire premise of the war was to make this ideology seem so monstrous, by attributing it to certain hideous acts like genocide, that almost nobody in the near future would question it's monstrousness and also attack anyone who even suggests that it might not've been as bad as we previously thought.

So that essentially, there would be no ideology that could be a successful antithesis to the communist thesis. Because national socialism is and always will be the only successful antithesis.

>>742907769
Back then: their ideologies were mostly stupid, but at least they tried a third route, that's something.
Today: meh, it only attracts contraians, white trash and edgy morons, somehow most of the interesting stuff went to hell and only the shitty parts remained.

>>742908867
>If they just kicked the Jews out of their country, Germany would have become a world superpower. Instead, they killed all the Jews and tried the world domination thing.
Either way they give away the A-bomb to their enemies while denying it to themselves. Doesn't seem like a good start for superpower status.

>>742907769
ARBEIT MACHT FREI

>>742909360
sry you were brainwashed and cant see past your conditioning but thats not my fault lol
u might be in the finals for the good goy award tho

>>742909428
You're a stupid faggot but I'll play: why did the "global communist order" destroy the Soviet Union?

>>742908438
Badass detected!
Well done
*clap slowly*

>>742909614
simple really

bait and switch

make people focus on the communist enemy so much that they don't see their own country becoming communist over time. and even if they did see they wouldn't believe because "our government is against communism, right?" so even if people were to state that the government is gearing towards communism, pretty much nobody but the communists would believe it. cognitive dissonance.

not to mention the fact that at some point, when we get awfully close to communism, and we will. they'll have to pitch it in a way that seems appealing to most. even though most will have already been indoctrinated to accept it to some degree. they'll have to use the previous communist style governments as bad examples and say, nah, that national communist style regime bullshit wasn't real communism, our global centralised communist order is nothing like that, think more like star trek than stalinist russia, that's what we want! and people will fall for it. because they'll think "well my government has always been against that kind of communism so it's likely telling the truth" or they'll at least be complacent to it.

>>742909506
Not the same Anon, but why do you think he is the one bring brainwashed and not you? I mean, not seeing past your conditioning wouldn't let you realize you are wrong either.
Honest question, what makes you think you are the redpilled one and not him?
Hell, you might both be blue pilled, that's the whole point of brainwashing, isn't it?

>>742910077
>don't see their own country becoming communist
What country would that be? Not the USA i assume.

>>742909042
Just like no one died for 9/11. Bin laden is alive and partying with the bushes.

Also the afghanistan war is fake. Fake war. Sad.

>>742910077
>Disguise nation's march towards communism by enriching and empowering the Capitalist class at the expense of workers, destroy common property and eliminate worker-led power blocs in organized labor.

I have to admit, it has fooled me into believing we have a ruthless Capitalist society.

>>742910180
The USA is 50/50 atm I'd say, or close at least. could go either way. but I think it's likely gonna end up communist at some point because the current conflict between the left and the right is being perpetuated by the same powers behind what I'm talking about. they want civil war, they want americans at each other's throats over BS and they want the total destabilisation of the entire west, not just the US. just have to go about it in different ways. and then be like, look, this is what nationalism gets you. you need a global centralised order to regulate things for the sake of peace and security.

>order out of chaos

>>742907769
I think trump is doing excessively well

>>742910340
not a valid comparison, you're attempt to discredit me by trying to make the point seem foolish will not work :)

>>742910375
>you need a global centralised order to regulate things for the sake of peace and security.
How is this different from Capitalism? Eventually all the monopolies must inevitably merge, the demands of infinite growth imply it from the start.

>>742910498
Then you know nothing about nazis.

>>742910375
Exactly. New world order is the only way to defeat the real puppet masters. The old world order.

>>742910362
exactly. it fooled me for a time as well. I was socialist for a while, then I was conservative / capitalist. now I'm all over the place but my personal preference in relation to political ideologies is national socialism.

I just realise now as opposed to back then that the left / right dichotomy is literally just divide and conquer, while the "masters" are using a mixture of both to keep us servile and divided, and not to mention confused and psychologically drained. because people who are confused and psychologically drained and in dismay will likely abdicate their personal responsibility when given the chance. which is what's happening with the younger generations of today.

>>742910375
Not sure about that, CIA has being medling in other countries affairs for quite some time now, and it usually is to keep said contries from turning socialists, the dictatorship in my country for example even got torture training from the CIA, and their primary objective in power was "fighting communists" (of course all the corruption that also happened had nothing to do with it).
Imho the most socialist version of the USA will always still be rather captalist and will make sure everyone stays the same.

>>742910589
I don't assume things about you.
Yet you assume things about me.
I know all about nazis.

>>742910676
So the solution is to keep everybody in fear, and disallow all individual goals and instead work for the glory of the state. Sounds fun. Im gonna go find a smart guy to tell me how to feel right now.

>>742910676
I don't understand how you separate Nazism from Capitalism. Nazism is merely Capitalism that rules in the interest of Capital, just as Liberalism does, but denies Capital ownership to untermenschen. Also, I don't understand why you are upset about the Versailles Treaty at this late date.

>>742907769
You mean national-autism?

It's is pretty much autism on a national level.

>>742907769
Nazism was good for Germany initially but then became a disaster when Hitler flew off the handle.

The nerds LARPing today with the Nazi flags are literally retarded. So retarded in fact that Hitler would've personally lobotomized them.

If you are a new and rising political movement, why would to bring unnecessary symbolic baggage from a failed empire from last century. Hitler would not do that. He created his own symbols that he could imbue with fresh positive meaning that his whole country could get behind. Waving a Nazi flag today is asking to be banned and killed. Not smart at all.

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>>742908438
it's also the most well documented event in history, it's funny that you can't understand that.

>>742910969
It's regrettable that neuro-atypical behavior due to biological causes has been conflated with being an Internet Asshole, to this extent.

>>742910498
At what?!

He's shaping up to be the least conservative president in the last 2 decades

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>>742907769

they can believe what they are entitled to believe (at least here in the states). But as long as they aren't hurting anybody I don't give two shits, nor do most of the people I know. One of the few "good" manufactured consensi are; equating modern day nazis with white, southern, illiterates.

Don't get me wrong, though. This manufactured consent has worked in both directions. Making us all seem terribly stupid. And it continues to get worse.

>>742911096
the most elaborate fabrication in history lol

>>742910534
well, firstly, when people say "capitalism" they usually think of large corporations, big businesses etc.

but personally I don't think that's capitalism at all. I think when businesses become so big that they have the same power and influence as a state, because they have so much resources pooled into them that they can go anywhere and pretty much do anything, that they are essentially a state. it's also quite interesting as well, when you look into the nature of the state, the state is actually a private corporate entity. even local councils here in the UK for example are private corporations, legally speaking. so you see, corporations and states / governments really aren't that different.

in my opinion, true capitalism only exists when you have small local businesses operating locally, providing goods / services for the locals. if a business goes any bigger than local, wherever it originated or whatever, it becomes corporate, and is on the road to becoming state-like, because its economic ambition and influence will essentially snowball if it's successful, and the greed will never stop.

I think the difference between these two market-types or whatever is quite simple as well, the local model is based on community and service to others where the corporate model is based on greed and influence more than anything. I think that's the root issue of all our problems really. a lack of a true sense of community.

>>742910915
You already have an authoritarian president. Ask him how to feel.

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>>742910676
>I was socialist for a while
>then I was conservative / capitalist
>now I'm all over the place
>but my personal preference in relation to political ideologies is national socialism
Anon, you are like a chick that keeps hooking up with guys that are totally bad for her.

>>742907769
MuriKKKans are doing it better than Germany. Israel does it best of all.

>>742911077
yep that's me
>>742911140
well at everything duh
and hes making illegals flee to canada, its genius

>>742911269
I thought round earth was the most elaborate hoax

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>>742910741
could it be that it was the CIA that planted these communist influences in these countries in the first place? so it had a justification to meddle in the private affairs of those countries with the false intention of helping them?

>plants communist influences
>communists become an issue and cause problems for countries in question
>cia offers help
>US now has deep-seated influence in that country and can now add it to its collection of countries it's currently policing

>>742911286
Capitalism implies accumulation of capital as its goal. "Small Business" is by definition inefficient at accumulation of capital and will be outcompeted and driven from the market or amalgamated into a more successful entity as soon as practicable.

To put limitations on the size of capital accumulation contradicts the logic of private property in the first place.

>>742910961
Well I'm not really separating it from anything. It's got elements of pretty much every part of the political spectrum in it, it's pretty much in the middle.

>>742911530
hitler and the nazis didnt really care about niggers since there weren't many of them in europe at the time
why do niggers think theyre so historically relevant

>>742911447
Really? Lets see some numbers.

Oh and in the mean time lets discuss if you can be conservative and not run a budget correctly.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-secret-service-trump-family-20170821-story.html

>>742911560
>could it be that it was the CIA that planted these communist influences in these countries in the first place?
No. Comintern and later the KGB had interests in spreading world revolution both for moral reasons and for keeping the CIA jumping. Besides, if you read the actual details of their confrontations, the CIA is obviously incompetent in the field and was outclassed by the KGB in every manner of operation except sigint and analysis.

I think all nazis should die in one of those swell fake camps they like to mention so much.

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>>742907769
Retarded and immoral. Unironic Nazis belong in the gulag.

>>742911661
Yes and this to me just highlights a deeper issue, which is our penchant for greed and our willingness to fuck over other human beings even it's just by outcompeting them rather than working with them.

>>742911908
you just can't get over the fact that he's doing great, everything is great, if he needs money he can just sell canada to the chineses

>>742907769
They did nothing wrong. Also I think they're not fascist because they have the word "socialist" in the name. Despite this, I love them and hate socialists. Also I don't think I'm one of them, even though I agree with their philosophy and won't shut up about how Jews control the world and should have been exterminated.

Who am I?

>>742912105
>Yes and this to me just highlights a deeper issue, which is our penchant for greed and our willingness to fuck over other human beings even it's just by outcompeting them rather than working with them.
So we're willing to invade Poland and carpet bomb the suburbs of London but we draw the line at eating the other guy's lunch in business?

>>742911923
>Outclassed in every capacity...

Kind of agree, with the exception of a few noticeable agency coups

Americans are just very bad at humint. Probably because it's a lot easier to get someone to fight for the "revolution" rather than "for Reagan".

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>>742912054
>gulag

>>742912054
that's rich coming from a commie that unironically says "gulag" lol

>>742912184
>Who am I?
Average /pol/ak?

>>742912204
Those kind of behaviours aren't inherent to national socialism alone and I would never advocate them.

>>742911902
What?

The black people in the Rhineland were a major selling point for the nazis in the thirties. There was a lot of resentment over German girls getting BLACKED by French colonial troops after WW1.

Of course it also fed into the Jewish conspiracy, in that the Nazis thought the Jews brought in the black troops, etc.

>>742911560
>false intention of helping them
They didn't even pretended it was to help, Anon, did you read my last post? they taught advanced torture to dictators so they could better fuck with opposition, the most well known cases ended with reporters and artists getting fucked and killed, we have no idea how deep the rabit hole goes, but the CIA didn't, for a second, pretend they wanted to help a country in need, they'd rather have dictators fucking with thousands than letting an unfriendly government take over, i doubt they would ever try to pretend to be another bad guy only to later pretend to be the good guy, they go straight for being the asshole and that's it.

>>742912347
>Those kind of behaviours aren't inherent to national socialism alone and I would never advocate them.
The entire point of Nazism was to get revenge on the Western Europeans, Jews and North Americans for World War I.

>>742912292
damn got it in one

>>742907769
As long as they don't kill my family and I, do what you gotta do you crazy bastards.

>>742912541
I think you mean that was the sentiment behind the pushing of this ideology in Germany at that time, but that's not the inherent nature of national socialism as an ideology generally speaking.

>>742912450
and after the second war more french colonial troops came in for a second round of mass rapes
guess niggers are just savages by nature and belong in africa

>>742907769
Good.

>>742912455
So basically the CIA helped to further destabilise your country? And it did so under the guise of helping it, by teaching it certain techniques in order to "help it" oust the opposition?

My general point is that typically, both sides of conflicts are influenced by the same forces at play in the background and all for the same endgame.

>>742912665
>I think you mean that was the sentiment behind the pushing of this ideology in Germany at that time, but that's not the inherent nature of national socialism as an ideology generally speaking.
There is no other historical instance of this ideology running a state or being developed in the first place. It's a mish mash, as has been noted above, of every practicable idea that Germany would need to get an Army up and running capable of conquering continental Europe again.

>>742912668
Probably not rapes. Probably actual relationships, because after each war, millions of Germans were dead and there were millions of available women. Plenty of American GIs had German girls. It was apparently as easy as trading them some nylons or chocolate.

>>742912897
there were legitimate rape squads of nigger french troops going around southern germany in 1945 raping women and young girls, go look it up
your marxist faggot professors would never tell you about it though

>>742912455
Meh, and the KGB orchestrated civil wars all over the world and constantly organized proxy wars.

CIA and the US in general were usually reacting to Soviet moves. Soviets, interestingly, were just trying to put as many allies as they could between them and the inevitable (they thought) NATO invasion.

>>742907769
Nazism is just a cheap method to get your anger out at someone and want to get attention...

Lost your job? Blame the jews.
Black people getting welfare? Lazy niggers.
Younger generation being more liberal? Fucking lefties, they're contributing nothing but cancer to the earth.

Hatred doesn't move anything forward, it keeps us still. It prevents change and progression because we're all so occupied at screaming at eachother.

>>742913123
Woah, easy there man.

Thanks for at least assuming I'm educated. I'm actually a historian. I'll look into it though.

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It was the truth and who ever disagrees is a retarded leftists. Or a conservative/libertarian faggot

>>742912836
Yeah I know, but that doesn't mean that the atrocities that happened in WW2 under the third reich were a direct result of national socialism though. The people who pushed that ideology brought that shit into it themselves, it wasn't inherent to it.

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>>742910741

but they were right about the pocket. problem is the spooks aren't the only people at the table. they seem to be the only people focused on. they all help eachother out though, no matter how much "in-fighting" may be reported on the news.

>>742913226
Do you think there are any real problems with Jewish influence and race mixing and all that stuff?

I go back and forth on it.

I think it's kind of interesting that Jews control so much of the media and are so prominent in business. I think it's interesting that they have so much power but somehow are still "oppressed".

I'm concerned about unbridled immigration and the fact that so many people are happy that white people are dying out.


World feels like it's going crazy when you can look at nazi talking points and see some sense in them.

>>742913346
yeah the infighting is basically each different faction wanting to be on top, but they're all working together for the same endgame.

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>>742907769
I prefer fascism because it doesn't have same amount of hate against other races.

>>742907769
Thinking fantasies if believed enough and worked towards enough will become truth.

Idiotic crap in other words. Now Fascism had actual ideas about the world and some ideas how to make things work better. One have to have some respect for that even though they also had a lot of idiotic crap (and a shit leader that betrayed his own people).

>>742912804
Yep, that's pretty much it, i'm not saying it would be any better with socialists pulling the strings, i'm just saying that instead they tried to keep this place as much captalist as third world country with lots of cheap goods to offer can be.
>>742913166
Don't get me wrong, i bet we'd get fucked either way, and yeah, i agree that KGB cared less about actually usefull allies and more about having other countries as cannon fodder, i'm just arguing that the USA government doesn't really have (or had) a socialist agenda, it's only different levels of how much captalist a country can be.
>>742913346
Yeah, everyone was and is playing the same game with the same goals, no one can deny that. I just wish people hada third route to follow some times, but then again, last third route i've heard to have some actual influence was Nazism, and that wen't wrong for a huge number of reasons.

>>742907769
Like communism, Nazism/fascism sounds good in theory but it doesn't work in practice due to the amount of control over and interference in people's lives required to make it work.
We as a society need to remember that there are actual definitions for these things and stop using them as pejoratives to describe anyone that disagrees with us. A lot of the recent "rise of the right" is in part due to people being branded as Nazis or fascists for expressing views that are simply right-of-centre or just "unfashionable" ("destroying confederate monuments is whitewashing of history" etc) leading to them identifying as such. Many of the self-proclaimed nazis seem to have a superficial, aesthetic idea of nazism.

>>742908099
Gerhard got Germany out of a depression in the 1960s. No military build up, no war economy, and half his country was controlled by commies. The "Hitler helped the economy" meme is frustratingly anti historical.

>>742913823
When compered to what?
Ultra-nationalism is often a part of fascistic ideologies and is difficult to separate this from theories of nationo-racial superiority.

>>742909708
Kill yourself

>>742908099
You know that is wrong and just propaganda, right?

>>742913928
ah I get you.

this is how I'm thinking though. Individual national political games like that can go either way. they can go to the left or the right. but the endgame, that's far left. they want a global centralised government that's communist in nature. and even if they allow things to go far right, it's only the push pull dynamic at play. I mean, if a country goes so far right that it basically becomes one big sweat shop, the likelyhood is that it'll overcompensate by having a revolution and going far left at some point. and that's the endgame for the entire world essentially. they just haven't created the right conditions for it to come into full fruition yet, the push / pull dynamic has to be used over and over again until everything falls into place and the infrastructure is set up ready for that to happen. E.g. the EU / UN and NAU.

>>742913512
Hey if you listen to crap some minority spews out you'd "know" that white heterosexual males are oppressed, that all males want to rape all women and that fat, rude idiots that can't sit right have to spread because their balls - while the real reason (except the rudeness and fatness that are real factors) are the angle of the male pelvis.

IOW you are using selective reading in order to find some thing to hate jews for. That's bullshit. Stop doing bullshit.

>>742913512

There is no Jewish influence, it's merely a coincidence that a majority of media moguls are Jewish. It doesn't mean anything, it doesn't mean that Jewish people are planning to influence our nation.

Jewish people are oppressed, you can be a powerful individual but still face discrimination. Barrack Obama was president, but he was discriminated for being black.

This country is a country of Immigrants, while I do not agree with illegal immigration. Even if our citizenship system is a difficult and fickle one for the people who want a better life, this doesn't mean they shouldn't just ignore it. But then again, without illegal immigrants, we'd lose a ton of employees who are keeping our country running. It's a situation that's hard to fix, you can't deport them, but you can't not deport them either.

White people are not dying out, to believe that the white race is being drowned out by other races is just a byproduct of not accepting change. It's the same reason why older generations believe that newer generations are dumber, it's a belief based on stereotypes and biased facts from news outlets that curve their opinion to a broader audience.

I may have been rambling a bit, but it's difficult to talk about this most of the time.

The only closing argument I have is that when you start thinking Nazi's are making sense to you, that's their influential power of persuasion working on you. Nazi's left compassion behind because they believe this is not a time for compassion, they believe it makes them look weaker...

>>742908336
/thread

>>742914341
That's where you're wrong kiddo.
He was even Time's man of the year in 1938 for his economical advances.

>>742907769
they made national socialism look really bad.

>>742914465
>$0.02 has been deposited to your account.
Though I have to say, the writing quality has improved.

>>742914391
Isn't that a bit the horseshoe theory territory though? I think i get what you mean, it's a controled tension/realease cicle, but i think that actually happens naturally, as soon as things start getting extreme towards one end or another ("extreme" being defined by what a certain culture can endure) it always end up with the opposite staging a rise to power, for the USA for example going a certain distance in left territory can make people go for someone like Trump (and it seems it will go down like that for a good portion of the world).
It's interesting though to think all this will lead to a global form of socialism, i personally think that, if that happens, it will be a mix of statism and free market, people will get what need from the government so they can buy what they want for the money they can pay.

>>742915491
yes I think it can happen naturally, but I think it can be forced too. and the fact that it can happen naturally benefits those influencing this dynamic, because it makes them overlook the forced hand, the influence. "oh it's just the way of the world, nothing to see here", and as a result, nobody tries to break out of that cycle of warn others about it, and if / when they do they're ridiculed.

yeah I used to actually want something like that to happen but it sounds far too much like slavery. I don't want a state at all.

>>742914465
>Barrack Obama was president, but he was discriminated for being black
Or you know, it could have just been all the terrible things he did and tried to do. Playing the race card was just his handy escape.

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>>742915842
All presidents do dumb shit, it's called being human. Some have made worse decisions than others, and I'm not saying Obama is innocent. But we can't deny that shit like this has happened...

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>>742907769

that antifa need to stop being fascist

>>742915783
>sounds far too much like slavery
Maybe, i don't know, not having the state providing health programs for example sounds similar to me, for someone who has a bad paying job having to spend all the money after a month of work because a kid got sick or someone ended up with cancer doesn't seem much better.
Captalism sells the idea that you are free to do anything, and that's nice, but i doubt most can pay what it takes for that freedom.

>>742915115
He used plans by the previous Reichskanzler Kurt von Schleicher, he developed the "arbeitsbeschaffungsprogramme", he even used the same people that worked previously on those. He didnt do anything, he just used the means that were already underway, his propaganda minister Goebbels did the rest.

>>742916458
The problem with healthcare is over-regulation. That's why costs are so high. That's because of socialism, ironically. Socialism's interference in the free-market. And when socialism interferes in the free-market, it doesn't end well for the bottom of the capitalist hierarchy. They're exploited for the sake of both the ones at the top and the state overlords that regulate the economy to benefit themselves and their top tier capitalist buddies.

In an ideal capitalist system, the regulations would be clean and concise and the costs would go down massively because of that. They're intentionally overcomplicated to raise costs.

But to put it simply, to me it goes down to a simple choice. What would you rather have? Freedom or security? You can't have both. You can't even have security tbh. Only the illusion of security. And that's all the state gives you, the illusion of it. But it requires you to trade in your freedom. I'd rather be free and risk my life being free than give up my life for the sake of some false promises that may or may not be able to always be kept.

>>742916902
>In an ideal capitalist system, the regulations would be clean and concise and the costs would go down massively because of that.
It isn't even close to ideal though, is it? And we usually get either the state medling with the market in disastrous ways or corporate greed having it's way with the government so they can do as they please.
Freedom remains as much an illusion as secutiry, you have to pay for both.

>>742908099
number of unemployed in Deutshland before Hitler became the chanceler :
>+5 millions
number of Germany's soldiers right before Hitler became the chanceler:
> less than 100k
Number of soldiers once Hitler annexed Austria: +5 millions.
The NSDAP indeed found jobs for german people, not the best one but it's still better than living in a building full of cholera.

>>742908099
And then got it dominated by four other nations, split into seperate territories and then turned into two seperate nations for decades. The harm of being split by a wall and kept from each other will continue to have severe effects on German culture and society for generations to come.

>>742907769
Inherently anti-American. I mean you can be a nazi but you need to admit you are anti-American and no different from commies.

>>742914465
Wait... but if the number of white people in white countries keeps decreasing, and they're replaced by non whites, then that's absolutely "drowning out" white people.

Why is that okay? That's not just demographic change, it's the end of a race. It's not just "how it is", it's wrong!

>>742917728
As ideal as it can be. The market should regulate itself and be based wholely on performance and without interference from a third party. The only entities involved should be buyer and seller.

And nah, we don't have either one or the other, we have both at the same time, at all times. Government and corporations working hand in hand aka corporatism. But I get what you mean.

And well we'll never be 100% free, as we'll never be free of the laws of nature which do restrict us to a massive degree. But in this context I mean free from enslavement, or to put it more lightly, free from being told what to do by other human beings who are no better than us. Them telling us what to do and us doing it being rewarded by providing us with healthcare or whatever else.

>>742918294

Why is that scary, exactly? Why do we need to preserve the white race?

Not all races last forever, it's like trying to cheat death.

It's not bad if future generations won't be 100% Caucasian, it just means more interracial relationships are being formed.

Also, nobody is killing the white race to begin with, it's just not being as the most dominant population in the future.

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>>742907769
Nazis are leftists.

>>742919239
So if it happened to another race it would be equally acceptable to you?

If there were constant headlines about "No more African Americans by 2040" that wouldn't sound a little like genocide to you?

>>742907769
It is a form of collectivism. It is a type of totalitarianism.
I disapprove of collectivism and totalitarianism.
It's why I also hate communists.
It's a myth that they're opposites.

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Highly efficient at being evil to their neighbors and fellow countrymen. We will very soon have the technology to genetically perfect ourselves without genocide, and thus they have no purpose. Absolutely barbaric and unnecessary.

>>742919667
But a genocide details that people are KILLING black people with the intent to wipe out their race.

Nobody is killing white people with the intent to wipe out their race.

Also, just so you know for the next time you open your mouth and think about using the word "Genocide", lemme give you the definition of what it means...

gen·o·cide
noun
the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

>>742907906
I didn't realize they made that car. Was always my favourite in Need for Speed Most Wanted. I knew it was German, just not that it came out during Nazi times.

>>742918294
>>742919667
>white people in white countries keep decreasing
>"100%" Native American population continues to dwindle and miscegenate
Really makes you think.

>"No more African Americans by 2040"
>wouldn't sound a little like genocide
No, that doesn't sound like genocide by the exact definition of the word genocide. Geno-cide, anon. Geno, cide. "No more African Americans by 2040" sounds like a projection regarding demographics (race), if not culture, the key word being the
>Americans
in
>African

>>742907769
They've got some neat stuff, but at this point, I mostly associate it with edgy teens. The whole kill all Jews thing was a little fucked up. Any hate they had just doesn't seem relevant today.

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>>742919682
Fairly different in terms of the sentiments that brought about their rise, but similar in practice.
Communism is an economic system, though. Generic communism is not incompatible with extensive personal freedom. I think you're thinking specifically of Russian communism, which was a human rights nightmare more because it was Russian than because it was communist. The Russians just have a long history of being horrible.

Pic unrelated.

>>742919667
Not the person you're replying to, but liberal enough to be relevant.

I would not give a single half-turd. We're all humans, whatever. I have a little native American blood in me. Dead race. A little sad, but humanity is doing just fine. My personal genes will be split down to a sixteenth or so in a hundred years, no matter whom my children marry.
Sounds like you've been fed a lot of propaganda. The left contains a fair lot of white guilt, but is not actually anti-white until you get to the lunatic fringe, and even then it's only some of them.

>>742919932
>>742920131
So the disappearance of an ethnic group by displacement from other ethnic groups doesn't fit your definition of genocide because white people aren't outright being murdered in large numbers?

It's still the disappearance of a group.

>>742921045
>So the
Yes. Literally, literally, literally, literally, literally, exactly, primarily, directly due to the exact definition of the word you are trying to use, of which you did not invent, and I did not invent, but continue to use as part of our lexicons. The disappearance of an ethnic group is not tribe-killing. Literally no literal deliberate killings occur in the act of "race mixing". Literally no literal killings of a group of peoples when a previous census of a group no longer matches with a future or contemporary census- 40% less white people in the future due to the mixing of the races is not genocide.

The word genocide means outright murder. Outright deliberate murdering of, well, a race, tribe, or group of peoples with regards to "kind". Geno, cide. Race, killing. Race, killer. Births do not equal murder. Death from childbirth is not some sort of conspiratorial planned event so that all the white women can die from delivering x-racial children.

Bait or no, the state of affairs warrants not being literally retarded to ensure a future worth shitposting in.

>>742921558
Genocide can be achieved without a single murder. Open a book some time

>>742921661
Give an example.

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>>742907769
I think the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

>>742914218
You dumb cunt. There hasn't been just one economic depression. Get off your high horse and YOU read a fucking history book.