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But why was there no time?

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But why was there no time?
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Or was this benjen' s thoughts all along
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Poor benjen. Not even jon's impenetrable plot armor could save him.
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What was Jon doing fighting his way away from the dragons?
How fast does Gendry run?
How fast do ravens fly?
How fast do dragons fly?

There are a lot of questions with this episode
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>>742739284
But why was there no time? Bitchass horse couldn't carry them both?
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mabye its no time to explain
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>>742739451
>What was Jon doing fighting his way away from the dragons?
He wanted to kill the night king. To end the war.

These are the important questions.
>How fast does Gendry run?
>How fast do ravens fly?
>How fast do dragons fly?
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>>742739181

>you'll be playing the character of Benjin Stark
>Couple of scenes in the first season, but trust us, he'll be a character of major importance later.
>so stay available.
>...
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>>742739613
But
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>>742739590
Was supposed to be an elk.
Thanks show.
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>>742739725

>Jon snow tryna sweet talk Dany Targarean, colorized
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Real talk though, is this dragon going to breathe some kind of blue fire or just flat out have ice breath
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>>742739852
But the night king is also supposed to be on a giant zombie spider 0_o

>Thank God they didn't animate my nightmares
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>>742739948
Blue fire.
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>>742739181
i just think the guy wanted to die. hes been this frozen fuck for like 7 years, he saved his nephews and probably just wanted to done with so much bullshit
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>>742739974
Nothing but disappoint.
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why didn't sandor clegane smash a circle in the ice after he hammered mr. skeleton into the water
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>>742739451

I have a feeling Dany was on the way already before they asked for help

>>742739948
Nigga he isn't rewiring the things anatomy, just bringing it back to life. It'll breathe (prob blue because it makes fanboys get hard) fire
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>>742740042
Good fucking plan.

"Guess I'll hang around until it's too damn late to warn anyone the army is coming. Now that lil' Jon is safe, I WHIP MY CHAINS BACK AND FORTH, I WHIP MY CHAINS BACK AND FOR--"
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>>742740082
Also I was really hoping they would do more in the previous seasons with flashbacks about Roberts rebellion, Jamie stabbing the Mad King, etc etc
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>>742740190
>mr skeleton
>audibly kekd
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so like

how do the zombies work

If you get bitten, but don't die, do you turn? Or if you get bitten you die of eternal bleeding even though you cauterized the wound? Or does the magic virus only take effect after you die of natural causes?
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Jon and his allies bring the captured wight to a big parlay with Cersei and her allies at the Dragonpit in King's Landing. The Hound chops the wight in half, but the wight still tries to attack. They demonstrate it can only be killed by fire or dragonglass (?). Cersei promises to send Lannister soldiers North to help against the White Walkers. After the meeting, Euron leaves with his fleet, and Tyrion has a private talk with Cersei.
Jon and Daenerys return to Dragonstone.
Theon has a fight with an Ironborn at the beach of Dragonstone.
Cersei reveals to Jaime that she will not fulfill her promise to support the fight against the White Walkers. She wants to let the White Walkers grind down her enemies. Jaime is disgusted by this and leaves towards the North.
Cersei awakens in a bed soaked with blood (her last scene)
Sansa sentences Littlefinger to death, he is executed by Arya.
Jon's true parentage gets revealed by Bran and Sam
Flashback to the marriage between Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark.
Jon and Daenerys leave by fleet towards the North. On the boat Daenerys and Jon have sex for the first time.
Last scene: The Night's King attacks the Wall riding an undead Vyserion who breathes blue fire, a big chunk of the wall falls down.
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>>742740459
Pretty certain you have to die first. Not sure why Benjen is half zombie though.

Some bookfag pls explain
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>>742740459
ressurected by the white walkers as dead
killing the blue guys kills the dead they control
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>>742740529
Just leak the episode don't make me read it.

>tldr; get wrecked
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>>742739181
I don't understand why he didnt' just pull john up with him on the horse and run

not like they were gonna chase they needed to get the dragon out the lake
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>>742740459

the zombie bite is the result of efforts to explain how zombies could A.exist, B.spread enough to be an actual threat to a modern population.

So in order to be a zombie you have to have caught zombie aids, the military/police can't fight it because it can spread so easily.

Classic zombies are just living dead, they don't eat brains and don't spread via bites.

(actual proper zombies are just drugged slaves).
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>>742740582
But then what about the zombie in at the wall like 5 seasons ago?

They brought the corpses back to the wall and the zombo didn't start moving until the night time

He was just playing dead?
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>>742740542

I suspect it's because Benjin is a stark, since the nightking is also a stark, the necro-magic may be weak against the nightkings own blood.
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>>742740717

>Sheeeeeeeeit.jpg
>pic unrelated
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>>742740717
>nightking is also a stark
wut
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>>742740687
shiet idk
in the last ep it showed that killing walkers killed the zombies though.
mabye it takes time to infect
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>>742740529
>Cersei awakens in a bed soaked with blood (her last scene)
Her telling Jamie that she won't help in the fight against the zombies prompts Jamie to kill her?

I would've thought the event would be a bit bigger, like threatening to kill everyone in kings landing with wild fire
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>>742740687
I think it was a guy that died and didn't turn into a white until later on (at night, because for some reason they couldn't be around during the day until season 6/7)
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>>742740529
>Sansa sentences Littlefinger to death, he is executed by Arya.
We're still missing a key piece of context, the sisters are still at each others throats
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>>742740847
Supposedly an incestuous miscarriage
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>>742740847
Miscarriage ya dipshit.
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>>742740818

Pretty sure it's a bookfag thing.
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>>742740948
Bran ya dipshit.
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>>742740529
>Last scene: The Night's King attacks the Wall riding an undead Vyserion who breathes blue fire, a big chunk of the wall falls down.
So all that lore and easter egg of the horn and it's all for nothing?
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>>742740623
I think old Benjen can't go past the walk due to magic of the Wall, being part white
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>>742739181
Because he has to make yet another dramatic appearance next season. Duh.
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>>742741042
Yeah. This show is utter garbage now.
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>>742739451
Well the raven seemed to have all night to fly to dragon stone, which gave dany and her dragons 3/4 of daylight to fly north. Seemed plausible
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>>742740984
>>742740986
This sounds like a cop out

I mean, if you miscarriage and die, is it REALLY the fathers fault?
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>>742740717
The damn bran theory?
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>>742740948
When we gonna see her nude?
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>>742741103
Lol he just died

>mfw when Benjen is 100% zombie next season
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>>742741197
No no, I don't think he actually kills her. He loves her too much.
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>>742739664
Why was dumb cunt dragons back to the white walker king
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>>742741210

>While on his way north, Bran Stark recalls stories told to the Stark children of Night's King and the Nightfort by Old Nan, servant in Winterfell. She said some people believe Night's King was a Bolton, a Magnar of Skagos, an Umber, a Flint, a Norrey, or a Woodfoot. However, she identifies Night's King as a Stark of Winterfell and brother to the King of Winter and suggests his name was Brandon.[1]
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>>742740529
does arya take littlefingers face and do something cool with it later
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>>742741265
never
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>>742741547
What about that Brandon le builder..
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>>742740409
Nigga they are using that shit for the game of thrones prequel
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>>742741265
>tfw she looks just like my crush of 10 years
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>>742739181
Because time in Westeros this year is relative, and people and ravens can travel across the continent and back in mere hours.
Really, am I the only one concerned that the showrunners are lost without the books, and are gonna fuck the end of this show up? Since they departed form the books they are whipping through storylines, and much of the conflict feels forced.
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>>742741265
I don't think sansa is attractive

not even back in s1
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>>742741751
I figured she'd get into some shady shit with it down south. She still has that list ;)
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>>742742278
post pic
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>>742742238
Nooo it'll be so bad if they recast young Ned
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LITERALLY JUST JUMP ON THE HORSE IT TAKES 8 SECONDS DAMMIT
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>>742742278
She will be my crush for life now
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>>742742397
THEY'RE CALLED WHITE WALKERS NOT WHITE RUNNERS
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>>742741265
When the selfish cunt who hacked her shit releases them.
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>>742742397
/thread
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>>742739181
There is "magic" protecting the wall, he can't go across. Said so earlier in series to bran
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>>742741335
>mfw when
>when when

Nigger, die.
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>>742742473
Forgot until after I made thread lol

>>742742322
Fuck off, but checked

>>742742209
Remind me what Bran the Builder is
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>>742741335
Typo, sorry Caucasian
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>>742742551
he da buildo who builda buildings
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>>742742443
NIGGA I HAVE WAITED 6 FUCKING YEARS TO GET BACK ON THIS SHOW AND I WAS PROMISED MORE. FUCK IT, KILL MY ASS
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>>742742592
Meant for (you) >>742742520
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>>742742520
no u
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>>742741032
>>742740717
kek, fucking no. Not even in the book.
People are confusing the Night's King with the Night King. They are 2 completely different characters, not to mention, the Night's Kings is not a Stark.
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does anyone have a link where i can watch?
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>>742742551
He built the wall back when westeros was powered by magic and lann the clever stole the sun
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>>742740192
it's an ice dragon now, come on
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>>742742737
>Night's King with the Night King
Jesus fucking christ
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>>742742612
Oh that makes sense

Is varys anyone else's favorite?
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>>742742775
It's not even a fucking dragon it's a wyvern

COME ON!
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>>742742738
couch tuner . Ag
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>>742742448
Proof?
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>>742742829
>mother of wyverns
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>>742742827
I like him as a character, but for an obese eunuch he's not nearly as overblown as he should be
>reality would make him a good 400 pounds and his voice squeaky as fuck
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>>742741127
The rampant teleportation does it for me
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>>742742827
One of mine yeah
Though I'm not a huge fan of danny...
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>>742742817
Eh, there's no context behind that. Can't tell if that's a bad or a good.
The night's king was a lord commander of the Wall who went rogue and fucked shit up till the free folk King (king beyond the wall) and the starks defeated him. The Night king is much older than the wall...
You can wikia this shit, but I'm not wrong.
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>>742742775
How the fuck it gon just make ice now
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I ride horses for a living and that horse couldn't have carried both them very fast for very far.
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>>742742313
Yeah I 100% agree. It's a fucking joke but all the normies lap it up anyway.
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>>742742737
>>742742737
nope the night's king is obama.
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>>742742955
Oh well about the physique, I just love the acting and portrayal
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>>742743145
BUT DID YOU SEE THE GUYS ON FIRE WHEN THE DRAGON SWOOPED IN DOE
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>>742742992
Dany has never been a favorite (except season 1 cause bewbz)
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>>742743111
Czechd and wrekt
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>>742743127
She looks adorable in that picture.
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>>742743127
Still hot as fuck
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>>742743179
Oh he's quite nice, but it just irks me cause I met a few actual eunuchs
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>>742743312
You an opera singer?
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>>742743214
DON'T FORGET THE ZOMBIE DRAGON AND THAT TIME ARYA TOTALLY HUMILIATED THAT TALL CHICK WITH HER DANK ASSASSIN SKILLS BRO, THAT SHIT WAS KASH AS PHUCK
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>>742742322
Her personality is fucked.
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Let's be real here

Cersi was always hotter than dragon bitch, and Lena headly is an amazing actor
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>>742743505
BUT WHAT ABOUT DAT LITTLEFINGER IN THE SHADOW SHIT BRUV? SHIT IS TENSE AS PHUCKIEDUCKS
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>>742743695
Arya literally spelled out everything I hate about sansa in the last 2 episodes.

Sansa is basically your normal conniving woman
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>>742743127
I've been wondering how they are going to get Jaime to kill her. Cause there is no way he does it if she's pregnant.
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>>742743744
She was hot in Dredd, and she looked an absolute mess. Only person hotter than her is Margery, can't check dem titties anymore cause she's roasted.
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>>742741042
what horn
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>>742743815
No empathy for political prisoners I guess
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>>742743744
Truth... but
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>>742739664
Gendry: rough terrain, 5mph max. 2 hour run over 10 miles to the wall.

Raven: Max flight speed of 30mph. 33 hour flight to Dragonstone.

Dragons: Estimated at 65mph (similar to Pterasaur estimates) give 15 hour flight to the wall.

Took about 2 days total.
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>>742743777
Czechd even though massive samefaggot
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Littlefinger dies next episode.
Boatsex.jpg
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>>742743951
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Horn_of_Winter
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>>742743983
This is the only reason why I want them alive.
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>>742744023
You people have to stop thinking like that.
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>>742740542

he was nearly turned by the WW but the children of the forest hooked him up with some magic glue to keep his ass together
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>>742743977
She got her father killed and committed treason.
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>>742740542
Benjin admits they was ambushed by whitewalkers and fell, but before the undead magic could fully turn him, the children of the forest found him and stopped it from fully taking effect.
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>>742744011
The Wall is 100 leagues or 300 miles and if you look at a map of Westeros it's gotta be at least twice that distance between the Wall and Dragonstone.

Benioff and whatever the other showrunner's name fucked this one up.
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>>742743857
Fucking roastie

But truly, first saw cersi as the wife in the purge and Goddamn did I want to fuck her ever since
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>>742741547
Get your shit straight. There is the NIGHT KING, basically the fucker that is still alive today, and then the NIGHT'S KING, who was just some faggot named Stark who wanted to be a necromancer n shit.
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>>742744393
I've been trying to say this, but retards can't do their own research..
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>>742744217
>She got her father killed
Wrong. He was dead no matter what she did.

> committed treason
I mean I guess. But most of her actions have been understandable. She was a naive helpless girl in a situation bigger than her.
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>>742744393
Correction, Brandon, not Stark.
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>>742744023
>>742744125
GET REKT GAYLORD
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>>742739451
This entire season is deus ex machina saved by deus ex machina.
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>>742744333

Westeros is 2000-3000 miles long. Wall to Dragonstone is about 1000 miles.

1000/30=33
1000/65=15
total 48 hours.
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>>742744446
No, cause if she didn't do what they asked he would've languished in the dungeon til she did something.

Meaning she waits, her dad lives. Quite possible til tyrion or tywin comes to be the hand and suddenly Ned doesn't die
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>>742740192
how'd she know where to look and find them?
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>>742744630
Did you even take the wind conditions into your consideration?
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>>742744255
Nice

>>742744393

GRRM is one confusing fatfuck
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>>742744393
>change one letter
>OC DO NOT STEAL
just fanfic my shit up fam
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>>742744678
>Meaning she waits, her dad lives.
Even if that was the case, which I don't believe it is since I think Varys swayed him more than anything, she still would not be at fault.

Fucking kill yourself.
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>>742744011
Checked and noted
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>>742744679
Love, you dumbass

But really, she prob just flew north. And who's to say the dragons didn't split up before regrouping once they were found
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>>742744011
>flying at 65mph non-stop
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>>742742520
>wun wun
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>>742744778
Eh I would't say he is confusing, he technically calls the whitewalkers "the others", the term white walkers was just merely popularized by the show since it was an easier way of identifying them. But the reason for the similarity in the name is because the night king was the ORIGINAL, then some ass hat retarded guy named Bran (after the night kings original defeat) went past the wall and basically proclaimed himself the new Night's King.
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>>742744745
Nope, just giving the best possible conditions. More realistically, we're looking at 3-5 days.
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>>742744954

yeah no that's stupid
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>>742745211
>>742744011
> 2 days in below freezing temperatures
>no fire
>no food
>3 of them been drinking booze the entire time
Not realistic survival outcomes.
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>>742744858
I'm sorry you feel the need to defend a fiction female. Your shiny white armor must get heavy while typing.

She fucked up and got her dad killed. Arya knows it now. Everyone who's anyone knows. It doesn't matter what Ned would have said cause his ass would be in the fucking dungeon if sansa didn't fuck the dog
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>>742745336
>realism
>applying to named plot characters
Not in my GoT
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>>742745026
Well... she did get 3 dragons from Essos to Westeros, and that took even longer. But I guess you can assume they chilled on some random rocks or islands, then caught up to the fleet once they've rested, if we're implying dragons need to rest like humans.
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>>742742473
>There is "magic" protecting the wall, he can't go across. Said so earlier in series to bran

If that's the case, how did the band of morons get the intact wight across it?
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>>742745140
He ded
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>>742745511
They flew OVER the wall silly
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>>742745142
Cool cool. Never read books so this helps me learn.

But why
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>>742745473
It all sounds logistically absurd, but they're literally magic and can disregard all established rules at the writers' discretion.
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>>742745583
What about the wight the came through the gates in the 1st (or 2nd) season and attacked the Lord Commander?
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Jon Snow's gonna fuck everyone's mother and Danny's gonna get captured and fucked to death by the night king.
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>>742741265
Wonder how good her ass smells. I'd definitely fuck her sister
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>>742745657
Not a wight, that was a zombie (a resurrected corpse rather than a converted being). It was brought in, and then animated.
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>>742745721
I would let Sansa peg me just to lick her ass.

Although, dream woman is Missandei with a dick
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>>742745511
Correct me if im wrong, but one way I understood it is the "magic" of the wall basically stops them from willing themselves past, so basically when they brought the wight over with Danny, it was them basically taking it hostage, and the reason the undead have never been able to pass before is the magic interferes with the night kings control, he (to my understanding) just uses a more powerful explicit form of greenseer power, like worging but for the undead. But if the rumors are true and he BREAKS a piece of the wall, then that would allow passage. Another example is how when Jon killed the whitewalker, its wights died with it.
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>>742745640
Pretty much every fantasy novel out there. I don't look too much into dragon physiology. Unless I've been reading that dragon book that literally covers dragon physiology. Wish I remembered what the book was called. Was about a boy who joined this academy, and all they did was research dragons in their notebooks. Based on a huge children's book about dragons, had bunch of pop ups and explained the difference between wyvern and dragon (Dany's drags are actually wyverns), types of both, sizes, what they usually do, etc. Dragons were the shit was I was a kid.
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>>742745611
I dont remember exactly but I believe he was actually part of the Nights Watch when it was originally founded, and just went bat shit insane while stationed at one of the castles on the wall, I believe thats where he started his necromancy bullshit, i just recall he had tons of women and blood sacrifices before bolting north to continue his bullshit.
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>>742745842
Cool thoughts
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>>742745739
They literally called it a wight when they were explaining the mission earlier in this season. There's no difference between a wight and zombie in this series...
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>>742745336
Two days in below freezing temperatures without fire or food is perfectly survivable if you have shelter. It's unlikely that being dressed for the cold plus huddling together under a ledge (it's the wind that gets you) would have been good enough, but not out of the question, and to be fair one of them did die in the night.
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>>742745583
So your theory is that this incredible magic would not stop the wight army from just climbing over the wall? If that's the case, why have magic at all?
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>>742745672
Nah Snow is gonna fuck Danny and Tyrion is going to win the game of thrones according to the Season 8 leaks, cuck.
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>>742739181
It was his uncle's destiny . He saved Bran and John
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>>742745842
Assuming that's true, then Jon could have just dragged Benjen through the wall. Problem solved.
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>>742745739
Nigger, read the books. All the non-white-walker undead are wights.
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>>742745842
The water ways are now frozen around the wall because it's winter. You can see it in the opening off every show this season
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No time to do anything with the character before the show raps up.
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>>742740542
>bookfag pls explain

bookfag here, no fucking idea. the show is so far ahead and so divergent from the books it doesn't matter anyway.
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>>742746154
Hmm that is an interesting thought, but my thought it even if he did try that, the wall might break the magic of the children that saved him in the first place, so basically it would be like killing him or dooming him to fully turn if he did. Plus I think he was doomed to sacrifice himself to buy Jon even a little bit of time to ride unfollowed so he could escape, cause by the time he made it to the wall he was basically unconscious and his horse looked near death.
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>>742746379
True, there was no time because the show was almost over.
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>>742746274
I have considered this, and found that the best explination is the "magic" of the wall is not limited to the ice wall itself, but almost like an equator line across the globe. If you want to look even further into it, technically there is a fucking bridge to the west of the wall that no one has mentioned or seen for a while which could possibly be used or considered as a loophole, but I havn't really been able to find too much info on it.
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Just watched it now i need to fap
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>Dragons fly in
>Let's roast all the cannon fodder
>Fuck those important looking guys just standing on the hill
>We'll get to them later
>Burn, cannon fodder! Burn! Yay!
>ohshit.jpg
This episode.
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>>742745389
>if sansa didn't fuck the dog
i thought she only imagined doing that
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>>742746563
they've extended the show a few minutes before
I agree w/ the Anon who said that he had to buy Jon some time.
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>>742746100
Bump Tyrion wins the GoT according to the season 8 leaks
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>>742745739
i think you are mistaking WIGHTS for WHITE WALKERS
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>>742739664
>>742744533
>>742739451

They're down to 7 episodes per season with only one left. They're gonna have to cram a lot of shit in. This will keep happening.
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>>742747027
I meant the show itself, this was the easiest way to off Benjen before the show ends. At least they didn't forget about him.
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>>742741133
"There are seven kingdom and the North is as big as the rest combined."
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>>742746832
The reason for that is most likely HEY THERE ARE MY FRIENDS I WANT TO SAVE THEM FIRST ABOVE ALL ELSE, and my guess is that the Night King will most likely have some type of immunity to fire, seeing how he can just always walk through it and douse it with just his aura or some shit.
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>>742739181
cuz they only got 7 episodes this season. season 8 is only 6. fuck.
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>>742747408
But supposedly each episode of the next season is going to run about 2hours long, basically a movie for each episode. If the rumors are true. =/
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>>742741751
>does arya take littlefingers face and do something cool with it later
Like put it on a saddle and ride that jew honker?
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>>742742827
>faggot spotted
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>>742747535
If she does take his face, it will to control or fool the knights of the Vale to keep fighting for Sansa. But im guessing they will fight for her anyways once Sansa and Arya somehow find out all the shit Littlefinger has done backstabbing the North.
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>>742747364
They weren't that far into the north. They were only as far as they could have walked, you mook.
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>>742747467
Shit nice
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>>742747689
An easyway to figure out how far exactly they went is if the arrowhead they went towards is on any official map. But I mean it couldn't have been TOO far because Gendry was able to run all the way back before literally passing out. Plus they knew that the army was somewhere on its way to Eastwatch, so basically cut straight North, you'd eventually run into them.
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>>742747640
I like my idea better.
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>>742747689
Half - 3 quarters a day's walk it seems. What's that for a mid sized group like that? 20-30 miles through some rough terrain?
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>>742744393
The show's NIGHT KING is the book's NIGHT'S KING equivalent, tard.

There are lots of changes to the Others in the show.
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>>742740192
>not rewriting anatomy

Except the you whole 'can live without organs' and 'can move without muscles' thing
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>>742747404
The Night King may be immune to normal fire (though its seems he really just puts it out first rather than walking through it) but if he's immune to dragon fire that kind of destroys the premise as to why he's vulnerable to dragon glass.
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>>742740847
She gives births to the mutant child of the hound. A veritable killing machine
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Why go seeking out the dead army in the first place? Grab some poor bastard and kill him on the other side of the wall. Boom! Instant wight.
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Why's Thoros not wearing armour plate? It probably would have saved him.
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>>742747689
Dany was in Dragonstone which is not only south of the North, it's south of the Vale. If she can fly from Dragonstone to the Wall in under a day, she could literally fly to Qarth in two days.

Face it, the writers have gone full Force Awakens in terms of travel time. It takes exactly as long to travel anywhere in AGOT as the writers deem builds sufficient dramatic tension.

Every episode is worse than the last.
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>>742748018
You didn't even read what I said did you? http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Night%27s_King
Please educate yourself, then you may return to the classroom.
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>>742748148
Then the prophecy is complete and utter bullshit
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>>742748212
Fuck it, she might as well fly to the doom of Valeria to find more dragon eggs.
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>>742739451
>>742739451
Well, like gendry The horse was faster without Benjins massive hammer weighing it down.
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>>742748077
He and his followers are vulnerable to dragon glass (obsidian) because that is how he was made in the first place. I want to think it somehow works as an "anchor" for the magic of the children of the forest to stay in him, but when you introduce another source of obsidian, its like an overload, or at least how it appears when Sam killed a whitewalker with a piece.
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>>742748181
Heavy, slows down fighting techniques / stances, also incredibly hard to keep warm (not freezing to your skin, unless its laced with leather, making it even heavier) plus they only went north as a fast hit and run mission. Not to stonewall in a fight.
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>>742748425
Not buying it. The reason I see most often is that it was created from dragon fire, which is also why Valyrian steel weapons kill them -- they were supposedly forged originally with dragon fire.
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>>742746067
>>742744011
>>742745336
The episode clearly shows that they are on the island for less than 24 hours.

It's almost dark when they get there. It's dark when Gendry gets to the wall. Drunky never woke up from his sleep. The sun doesn't set again.

The walkers were only waiting for the ice to refreeze. The dragons are as fast as turboprops, but only off camera.

Honestly, this isn't the most egregious superspeed this season. Euron couldn't have possibly sailed as fast as he did. And the Dothraki rode to Highgarden how fast exactly.

It all comes down to lazy writing. If you watch the after show makings of, it's really obvious that they are worse than JJ Abrams and GRRM is totally checked out at this point.
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>>742748538
>only went north as a fast hit and run mission
without a few dragon glass/obsidian weapons?
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>>742739451
But why didn't the night king spear the biggest dragon out of all of them that was not only sitting in front of him but happened to have the entire group of people they've been camping out for the past day or so on it?
Why'd he go for one of the flying ones?
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>>742748705
Dothraki didn't ride to Highgarden, they were at blackwater rush, which is pretty much right outside king's landing. I will agree that it's lazy writing and an extremely rushed season.
I honestly don't think GRRM gives 2 shits at this point. Dude gets to write like 1 episode then lives off the millions of gibbs for the rest of the year.
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>>742739948

Would blue fire imply that the dragon is now full of methane gas....basically a big flaming fart.
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>>742748833
They all had dragon glass weapons except Jon, Beric, and Thoros who had better weapons. The Hound had little dagger things, Jorah had bigger dagger things, and Tormund had an axe.
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>>742748631
>Not buying it.
believes dragons exist and people rising from the dead etc. etc.
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>>742748631
Incorrect. Never in the books or show is it directly mentioned that dragon glass is actually made from dragons, it is obsidian, or the real world equivalent of volcanic glass. Made entirely from nature. Thus why the children of the forest had plenty of it and would actually offer bundles of it to the Nights Watch in old ages. The children of the forest as far as I know never had contact or at least controlled dragons.
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>>742748253
>Basing your opinion on a DVD extra from two seasons before the Night King appears
>literally copy and pasted from the books
>never mentioned on screen

wew lad.
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Characters most missed

>Robb
>Carolyn
>Barristan
>Margery
>Osha
>Oberin
>Drogo
>Ramsey
>Stannis
>WunWun
>Maester Aemon
>Olenna
>Ned
>Tywin
>Jeoffry
>Tommen
>Marcella
>Jamie's Right Hand

Pick three only
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>>742745556
Nah nigga, he undead!
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>>742748958
>GRRM
Of course he cares. It's his IP.

He is quietly suffering while HBO guts his story.
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>>742749058
You haven't read book 4 parts I & II. I can't wait for book 5 to come out this year.
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>>742748705
>>742748705
This is how I know everyone on this board is truly autistic. Giant dragons? Awesome. Legions of undead zombies. No problem! Math doesn't check out on how fast ravens deliver a message off camera? BURN THIS SHOW TO THE GROUND!!!
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>>742748833
Jorah's daggers were made from obsidian. And they went to capture a wight, obsidian only directly kills the white walkers (or others), all forms of steel and fire can destroy / kill the wights.
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>>742742313
It's because they have too few episodes left.
They should have gone to season 9 and have 10 full episodes each season to avoid this.
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>>742749096
>You haven't read book 4 parts I & II.
Is the story falling apart in the books as well then?
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>>742748936
His ultimate goal probably requires them to have made it back alive. Either that or he saw Viserion as a bigger threat, since Drogon wasn't going to attack them anytime soon.
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>>742749046
Nah man. Burned those guys, prob
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCr7y4SLhck


literally the entire episode
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>>742748958
Honestly, that just makes it worse. Foot soldiers with a wagon train typically travel 2 mph.

>>742749133
I recently rewatched all the episodes. It's pretty surreal going from season one's weeks for a procession to march to King's :anding to everyone is Usain Bolt running max speed for 24.5 hours per day, but only off camera.

Everyone knows suspension of disbelief is all about consistency.

And not liking lazy writing is maximum autism for sure. It's why only autists dislike everything JJ Abrams has ever done.
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>>742749041
Tywin because he was a great presence and ultimately more threatening than any remaining human antagonists.

Barristan and Jamie's hand because we never got to see either of them fight at full capacity. They were suppose to be two of the greatest fighters in the world, but we only know that because of what other characters have said.
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>>742740542
>eternal bleeding
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>>742749040
Your correct, it is my opinion. So you getting all bent out of shape over it is pretty sad. Secondly I was merely stating the difference between the two characters based on the AUTHORS perspective. As far as Im concerned, he has the final say for official lore. Your pissing in your own cheerios over the different between the books and the show. Go get some fresh air.
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>>742749195
Book four is like as long as the first three put together and less happens. Then book five is literally described as part two of book four in the author's notes, but there's still only going to be seven books total.

And book 6 has been coming out this year for like the last four years.
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>>742747467
yeah.. they better. cuz it's another year before we see it.
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>>742749041
>Ramsay
>Ramsay
>Ramsay
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>>742749482
lol
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>>742749335
Consider the following, the first few seasons actually had a foundation to follow, shit that was already taken care of and allowed planning of episodes and timing before hand. Now the writers are basically going off very minimal support from GRRM and they need to fast forward the show to important parts so they can actually finish it before people start dying or otherwise dipping out of the show.
>>
Jon wargs ice dragon after going home to talk to his now aspie younger siblings
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>>742749041
Imagine never getting to beat off with your right hand again. Poor Jamie RIP Ol' Reliable
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>>742749743
He's back with Cersei and her poison lips, so I wouldn't worry too much
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>>742746541
You're forgetting the horns noob
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>>742749461

Literally my own choices. Nice, dude. Always wanted to see that Jamie v Robb fight.

Also, Barristan vs that "HECTOR!" motherfucker at Qarth would have been nice
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>>742749699
>finish it before people start dying or otherwise dipping out of the show
Shit you're pretty right..
Pretty much exactly how Stargate Universe failed and brought down the entire franchise.
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>>742749482
Wrekt
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>>742749699
See, that's what I thought at the beginning of the season.

Buuuuuuuut season 7 is literally a filler season just to explain how, when they finally start the war against the walkers (who are literally dicking around just north of the wall for years now), Cersei is still alive and Dany still isn't Queen of the 7 kingdoms.

What happened this season? The whole political situation is basically unchanged from the first five minutes. Hell, this entire episode was just to get a walker to convince Cersei to agree to a truce that literally only benefits Cersei (and on screen says she should take it).

The only reason I'm still watching is because I've invested so much time in it already.
>>
>>742749511
Eh maybe 1/3
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>>742749899
They made Arthur Dayne live up to his legend, so it's even more disappointing what we got from Barristan
>>
>>742749743
Kekd audibly

I'm lefty though
>>
>>742750048
>lived up to his legend
>stabbing people through armor
>dual wielding
>all opponents were shit at what they did
>>
>>742750048
Im sorry but who
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>>742750202

Is >>742750048 referring to the Sun Knight dude
>>
>>742749041
1) WunWun
2) WunWun
3) WunWun
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>>742749335
Bro I like realism as much as the next person. I really enjoy watching families just living their lives from the open IP cameras in their house. But i come to GOT for fantasy and good storylines not to watch arya and the hound walking for a season or that large bitch from tarth walking around with j Lanister. ESPECIALLY NOT Bitch from tarth and that loyal squire walking around traveling. Fuck alot of this show was traveling around and I want some god damn warping now.
>>
>>742749743

>mfw I already capped but my sister starts getting hot off imagining her enemies dead
>>
>>742750202
Arthur at least looked like he was the most skilled swordsman in Westeros with his two swords. Dawn was underwhelming, but he was clearly on another level from the five(?) guys he was fighting at once.

Barristan didn't look like anything special when he was getting killed by the Sons of the Harpy.

>>742750246
The guy with the two swords from Bran's flashback last season

>>742750285
Yes
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>>742750471
Fapped*
>>
>>742739181
Thought the same. RIP again Benjie
>>
>>742750743
Lmfao "rip again"
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>>742750441
Well, there aren't good storylines anymore.

And the "le fantasy means it should be written like it's being told by a drunk braggart trying one-up everyone with obvious bullshit" trope is pretty lame tbh.
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>>742750471
I wish Jamie kept the scruff
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>>742750407
Dun Dun
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>future bran goes back to tell the mad king to burn the white walkers
>mad king gets fucked up and tries to "burn them all"
>bran goes back and becomes "bran the builder"
>bran (the builder) builds the wall
>bran (the builder) builds winterfell
>bran goes back even further and tries to kill the children of the forest before they make the first white walker
>children catches bran
>children stabs bran with dragon glass
>bran turns into the night king
>uses warg power to bring back the dead and make more white walkers
>waits a long fucking time so he can go and destroy the wall that he built
Bran: "It was you, you made the white walkers"
Leaf: "we needed to defend ourselves"
Bran: "from who?"
Leaf: "from you"
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>>742751468
Weird, why tear down the wall
>>
>>742751553
Maybe he wants to go back to winterfell and just hangout.
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>>742751468
We all agree that Bran was both himself *(young) and the man talking to bran in the tree (old) when they fucked up hodor right? Both timelines were playing out simultaneously and has happened many times before but he broke the chain by Hodor holding the door and escaping. Do the books go deeper into Bran being one with everything and timelines overlapping?
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>>742751874
Wait, if the old guy is Bran, then how does he become the night king
>>
>>742751468
I think bran is just a trump card to make a really shitty/cool ending. Bran becomes the Lord of light and the night king, bran is literally every bran in stark history, bran caused every single event to start one way or another.
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>>742752057
The old guy is bloodraven
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>>742749041
I really miss Robb and Catelyn
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>>742752094
Now wtf is a bloodraven
>>
>>742752057
The old man messed up along the way and has to keep telling the younger versions about how to use his powers if the younger version becomes old then they have messed up. we assume this version breaks the endless loop.
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>>742752193
three eyed white blood raven
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>>742752207
got it

Why can't the plot just have some back stabbing ending in kings landing?
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>>742752220
Wtf there is only one 3eye birdie
>>
>>742752138
I miss Robb, but not Catelyn. I get why she did what she did, but she was annoying and boring. She basically spent the whole show telling Ned and Robb not to advance the plot.
>>
Double the weight, slower the horse moves. Jon is dying of hypothermia, so time is everything. Benjen is neither living or dead, so he can't go south of the wall but can't really hangout with anyone north of it either. It was his time to go.
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>>742752267
It'll start all over. Someone will rebel against the New king or queen, Jamie will stab their back, reinstate the game of thrones.
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>>742742313

You do realize that the average homing pigeon can do 400 miles in 8 hours right? They can also be trained to fly up to 1000 miles in a single trip. Trained ravens would have no problem getting to Dragonstone in less than 24 hours.
>>
>>742739181
Now they can Make a Dragon 747 Boeing to fly the undead over the Wall
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>>742752267
Because the old man has waited in seclusion at the tree for his younger self away from the white walkers using magic shield to block entrance. He knows his younger version will find him there with all the messages and turns along the road he planted for him and the new information he gives him sets him on his path and unlocks powers so he waits there by the tree hoping this new version will be the one.
>>742752391
Exactly. This too. Tree is safest place to wait.
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>>742752330
She was the most caring person in the show. She did what she did for her family, to protect them. Not for honor or some shit
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>>742748631
Valyrian steel is steel with dragonglass embedded in it you mong, not forged by dragonfire
Almost everyone ITT has their own wrong headcanon
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>>742752138
Really? Catelyn was a total bitch to Jon and Robb took all of Ned's poor traits when it comes to letting pure honor get in the way of everything. Ned was honorable but he wasn't a pure naive idiot like Robb was. And this is coming from someone who really wanted to see the Starks succeed. Re-watching seasons 2 and 3 made me hate how stupid both of them were.
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>>742752577
Also the dude is crippled so traveling is not the best for him. You are right next to tree is safest place. Thats why Hodor gets fucked too because both timelines playing out same time and he gets worged when he is young to ensure his entire future would play out to the point of holding that door.
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>>742739181
there was no time because Jon wouldn't have been able to get away from the walkers if his uncle didnt stall them by fighting them and sacrificing himself. Just like Jon tried to do with the rest of the group on the dragon.

was it really that confusing? I thought it was obvious.
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>>742753299
Obvious dubs
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>>742744011
Dragons are a lot faster than that faggot
It got there in time to roast the skeletals
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>>742739451
> wanted to kill the night king
> like tops 8- 12 mph and not sustained. . He averaged at 7mph
>ravens like 20 mph
>dragons 30- 50 mph cruising speed.
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>>742739181
747 dragon boeing is being worked out by the walkers it's gonna be able to carry thousands
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