Seriously speaking, what do you think comes after death?

>>742556851
The same thing that happened before life. Nothing.

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oblivion.

>>742556851
I'm not sure. It's probably just nothing.

>>742556851
Nothing. We return to the ground, from whence we came.

>>742556851
Heaven, Hell, Reincarnation all lies invented by psychopaths to control the masses.

>>742556851
My dick!!!!

For most of us hell

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>>742556851
all
fuck all
theirs no heaven, theirs no hell

just sweet fuck all
you live through the eyes of your children

you don't have children ? so what ! when your dead you're not going to give a fuck either way

life is basically your born, you struggle to live (unless your rich) you get some pussy (if your lucky) you have kids, teach them stuff
you get old and die

the bible teaches resurrection but of-cause you have to pay for your sins
so technically even if you get resurrected you'll face being killed by god anyway unless your a pure unadulterated person (which lets face it if you come here you are far from with all the filth that's available here form anal (sodomy) to killing people (daily occurrence in reckt threads)

>>742557184
*tips fedora*

>>742556903

/thread

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>>742556851
One thing for sure: not dubs.

>>742556851
It feels just like how you felt before you were born

>>742557441
*Shines shoes*

Are you implying I'm wrong?

>>742556903
>>742557448
>>742557586
but do you remember what it was like being born? or anything from the year after you were born?

just because you don't remember there being anything before life doesn't mean there was nothing

>>742556851
You'll ask an angelic looking lady where one could score weed, and continue where you left off, probably.

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The same thing that comes before birth, reverting back to nutrients.

How do people accept death. To even consider it now after all that you've learnt and experienced. I cannot fathom all the senses i currently have and all the mechanisms in my body that function coherently just to simply breathe.

>>742557757
just because life exists doesn't mean i personally have any experience of it outside my own brain function.

on this note; i wouldn't use a teleporting device based on deconstructing my body atom by atom and reassembling it somewhere else. that person may be indistinguishable from myself to everyone, but for all intents and purposes, as pertaining to my subjective experience, it would constitute death.

>>742556851
This question is a bit of a red herring.

We are presupposing that consciousness and memory are "something" that exists for the individual while he or she is alive, that would necessarily continue, disappear altogether, or transform into something else upon death.

However, consciousness is secondary to the demonstrable but abstract physical processes that form the basis of life, and is in essence a very believable but completely imaginary phenomenon.

Consider this. In order for something to exist, it must exist absolutely and independently from something else. But we know for a fact that no thing exists absolutely and independently from any other thing; that is, a thing by definition is reliant upon another thing for its existence, and the relationship that defines both of those things is integral to the existence of either.

The point is, you are, by definition, composed of matter that is already dead. Your consciousness may "disappear" but there is nothing to be afraid of, as you were, are, and always will be part of a system of matter and energy that is fundamentally composed of nonliving matter. Nothing changes when you die.

>>742557421
>you live through the eyes of your children
i call bullshit. please refer to this post >>742558328

>>742557777
quads of tempting but questionable truth

>>742556851
black you fucking retard

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>>742556903
hi

>>742558328
Glad I'm not the only one who thought about molecular deconstruction being sketchy as fuck

>>742556851
The Big Nothing

>>742556851
Something completely different.

>>742558328
Consider the following:

Consciousness may be discrete rather than continuous. I get what you're saying about the teleportation technology, but what about the fact that all the cells in your body are continuously dying off and being replaced? What about the fact that your brain is running a defrag every time you sleep? At what point does the Ship of Theseus stop being the original vessel?

>>742556851
nothing obviously, but the genes that created us live on

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>>742556851

>Nothing.

I've had the unique experience of dying and yeah, you only realise you are gone if you get brought back.

Think about it like blacking out. While your out you have no memories of before, after or during. Your just not. You never were, until you come back.

Nothing to be afraid of, dying hurts but its not like you ever wake up the next day and go 'wow that hurt' once the hurting starts it's already over you never existed.

Peace

>>742558641
ikr?

if you haven't already you should check out the game SOMA.

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>>742556851

Death.

>>742558773
how did it hurt?

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>>742558773

>>742558727
it does feel as if i'm a completely different person now than i was 10 years ago, but i still wouldn't use that type of teleportation if given a choice.

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Death is just another path.

One that we must all take.

>>742558608
I'd rather be a fat neckbeard fedora wearing faggot than a braindead christian mongoloid

>>742558862
>>742558641
I've heard it suggested that teleportation may involve scanning the individual in question and beaming the data to the destination where an exact molecular copy is made, right down to the chemical state of the brain.

The original is then destroyed.

I had trouble breathing after the first time I read that.

>>742556851
crazy quantum immortality , reincarnation, infinite parallel realities madness, cyclical universes, permanent oblivion?

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>>742556851
we become radical cool skeletons and fight demons n shit

No more AIDS. I've been diagnosed twice. This second time they say they can't cure it.

>>742558967
E D G Y
D
G
Y

>>742558727
Continuous consciousness is an illusion; the only thing that is discrete about it is that it exists in the present moment. Every memory conjoining that consciousness to a prior moment in time could just as easily be a fabrication injected into your brain at the time of your creation.

I think what people are really afraid of when they die is not losing their consciousness or their memories, but losing the distinctive quality of "being" at the point of reference from which all their memories are formed.

I believe that point is not fixed, however, and is more like a unique bump on a large sheet of fabric that appears isolated when looked at by itself, but the bump can re-emerge at any other location on the fabric with identical qualities and the being that experiences that point would be none the wiser.

Afterthought: it is not unlikely that this is how "reincarnation" works; we are all experiencing the fabric of "being" in the same way as one another without actually realising it, and the point of experience that appears unique to us is actually composed of the same quality as that of everybody else's--thus, by conscious existence, we are all one and the same.

We live in a perpetual loop of realities, if somebody percieves you as alive then you are. You have already died and infinite amount of time and you have lived an infinite amount of times. Why do you think you feel deja Vu. From a science perspective matter can't be created or destroyed so if that's true then you live on through electrons moving back and forth. And those electrons carry data that make you. Well you

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A better question is that if you can digitize your entire brain and create a new virtual life for yourself that could potentially live eternally, would you? It wouldn't be you, but an exact digital clone of you. Is that something you would want for a copy of yourself? There are a lot of philosophical things to consider. Would you ever "delete" yourself once things get boring? Would that be suicide? Why do it at all if you know you'd eventually just off yourself? If all consciousness becomes a singularity, then does it matter if you won't be you anymore?

>>742556851
I will never understand why people are all so afraid of death. Its like you think you will be shut up in a pine box alone in the dark for eternity. What you fail to realize is that death is simply the annihilation of consciousness. You don't experience anything at all anymore whereas being alone in the dark would be an experience. With a small change in social attitude death can be just as beautiful as birth because simply put its a completely natural part of life just like birth.

>>742557184
>listen up sheeple

>>742558917
>>742558922

In my case i'm not sure, being violently flung out of a car did a pretty number on me. But I imagine I was in serious pain, there were enough medicos.

Lung cancer though, yeah that looks like a rough ride. There's a reason they keep you doped up on morphine 24/7. Your body doesn't want to die, it spends alot of it's time keeping you alive, when organs and stuff start shutting down, your body ring alarm bells, usually this comes in the form of pain, the more stuff inside you dies...

But once your on that path you never really existed anyway.

>>742559145
Matter can be created and destroyed.

>>742559186
Sounds peaceful.

>>742559145
>Why do you think you feel deja Vu

Because sometimes neurons misfire or fire out of normal sync. That's why "deja vu feeling" is a common symptom people experience just before having a seizure.

>>742558727
our consciousness which evolved by darwinian principles is uniquely good at dealing with natural processes like cell death and growth, its not necessarily good at teleportation by 3d printer or whatever thing we invent

there might be some continuity mechanism that gets interrupted

>>742556851
heat death

72 fat neckbeard virgins

>>742558641
on the other hand some people are willing to die for plenty of reasons, science included. Perhaps in 1000 years it will be normal to commit suicide and have your clone appear on another planet, maybe it will be like a gap year. Our strong intuitions about what it means to be alive, conscious, a self, may change as we learn more, we are already moving to a pro-euthanasia society...

>>742559409
You dumb fuck it's not peaceful. It's nothing absolutely nothing. Peaceful is a feeling and death is simply that death.

>>742559138
if we are all blips on the same plane of being isnt that very distinct from being the same as an exact blip on a previous state of the plane

reincarnation implies to me that i am now me but i used to be hitler and before that i was a donkey a named pedro and before that i was the apple tree in front of isaac newtons house

what youre saying seems to be different

Rick and Morty
The game is life
The game
We come out of this reality and finish our old life in the dream
Also movie Inception dreams within dreams. It all comes back to you but you get caught up in life so you forget. Life is a social scheme intended to make you forget what is real. Alan Watts

You know what a death here could wind up taking you back and considering all your life times are a hoax.
Would you keep anhero ing through all of it to see one base reality? You do it once and it becomes easier.

I think my dejavues have stopped because I'm not living lives over again because I've passed the point where I was heroing so this is all new for me.

>>742556851
72 virgins

>>742559145
>>742559527
ive always thought of deja vu as this

we are always storing memories (we dont store everything, but storing is happening basically constantly), sometimes the neural path glitches and we start recalling the present moment from our memory as we are recording it to the memory (or .05 seconds after its being recorded, but it is perceptually indistinguishable)

so we are just remembering .05 seconds ago

i dont have any science to back that up though. lel

A big orgy

>>742559838
do you meditate?
nothing is peaceful
that little neurotic voice in your head is stressful

Nothing, just blackness like floating in space.

>>742559114
The amount of times I've been called edgy by some summer kid...
kek

>>742559959
I am suggesting that being "you" is not as solid as you think it is. Every day that you wake up you are effectively a different person, and the blip on the plane may have shifted to some degree without your conscious intent or recollection thereof, while you continue to remain effectively "you" (connected by memories and such). I am suggesting that reincarnation is simply a more complex version of this process, whereby instead of swapping out little bits of old matter with new ones you swap out large bits (different brain and all that) and create new matter configurations altogether. All sentient creatures are all bound by the same quality of consciousness, despite being different clumps of matter.

Keep in mind also that consciousness may not be linearly tied to time as we perceive it. Thus, in the way you describe 'having been' somebody or something else you throw out the idea that you are already that person or thing simply by sharing a quality of existence / life with it.

>>742560424
Agreed

>>742557481
But at least he had a VCR and some porn hehehe

>>742560704
Suck a greyhound's dick.

Nothing.

You guys are really dumb. Do you see all those planets in space? And i mean every single one of them. Well those are fail human society. Some how we will fuck up on this planet earth and get extinct. Than it will slowly die just like the planet before this. A new planet is already being born many years ago and is still developing at this moment. We will die before its finishes and when its finished some how new life will be born on the next new planet. This repeats itself until life gets it right without fucking up!

>>742560704
I see, im down with panpsychism (or at least i know it cant be debunked), im just skeptical of the concept of reincarnation but the definition you've just given it is totally acceptable to me

>>742557065
I came from my mom's pussy tho

My roommate actually was dead for almost 10 minutes due to his body eating away at itself. He told me afterwards everything seemed content and he didn't feel happy or sad, but a feeling of relief.

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>>742556851
It's rather simple: "death adder" comes after "death". Sometimes I wonder about /b/.

>>742558773
Clinical death is not brain death
You can't experience true brain death and come back
So you don't know any more than anyone else

>>742558961
A far green country, under a swift sunrise

>>742562853
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9223408/Miracle-recovery-of-teen-declared-brain-dead-by-four-doctors.html

>>742556851
nothing

>>742556851
I'd imagine either nothing or something.

Either oblivion, the nothing which we can't comprehend,
or your conscious is immediately transferred to another entity, but then that begs the question of limitations, are things like rabbits, bugs, or gastropods even conscious?
Could your consciousness be transferred into a plant, like an equivalent of hell? Where you can't think, you can't see, you can't move, but you can in fact feel pain?
Is your consciousness even limited to this planet? Could it be transferred to a non carbon based life form 1,000,000,000 light years away?

I'd imagine oblivion, consciousness is too abstract a concept to even try to explain, that's why people make up garbage like heaven.

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>>742561004
I want some of your drugs.

>>742556851
I don't get it why people think that something happens after death. It doesn't makes any sense. Just realize how many people died in the history of humanity. If there's is a afterlife it would be a total mess

>>742563315
Think about it it may be real

>>742556851
White bois crying about confederate statues.

>>742556851
I see no proof of life.

>>742559049
yo that'd be sic

i can tell you this much; we live in a recording.

i've seen the future before and it was a few seconds in a dream that, since the scene came together a thousand miles away in a strange place but exactly the same on a special night, that means that there is no free will and this is just a recording.

you can't ONLY exist in a recording. we don't actually live here.

>>742556851
Cremation seems to be the most popular choice these days but some still opt for burial.

The same thing that came before birth

>>742556851
The world won't stop without you. Basically everything but you comes after death.

>>742556851
I believe that just as there are laws concerning mass and energy. (Specifically the law of conservation of mass/energy) I.e. mass and energy can neither be created or destroyed.

In the same manner I think there is a scientific law for the law of conservvati9n of life i.e. life can never be created or destroyed only change forms. So I guess I believe in a form of reincarnation or transitional state.

Or you know we are just dead. There's always that and it's probably the winner.

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>>742556851
The mind is set free from it's physical existence to form a true unity with god

More death

>>742556851
>Seriously speaking, what do you think comes after death?

It's like waiting at the DMV... forever...

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spas in volcanos?

>>742558268
Breathe and reproduce

>>742562853

Brain death, clinical death. Who cares really, but the point you completely missed is death is a lack of consciousness. You don't know your dead, you never knew you were alive.

Your just not.

I don't think there's anything but the void of non-existence.

Look, if there was an afterlife, then all our loved ones would know that the best way to alievate our fear, would be to contact us and let us know it's okay and they are okay.

The fact that they don't do this, leaves us with a few possibilities.

1) They are unable to respond
2) They are unwilling to respond.

2 can be dismissed, as many of the dying have made promises to contact the living if it is possible. (e.g Harry Houdini)

So we have 1) They are unable to respond.
If they are unable to respond, then it logically follows that EVERY SINGLE "communication" from beyond was bullshit.

Therefore all religions talk about the beyond, is bullshit.

Given that we can dismiss religion, what is more likely? An alternate dimension for consciousness? Or life is as simple (and brief) as it appears?

>>742560497
No, he's right. Your original post was just the neck beard slogan. Christ, think for yourself you fucking pleb.

I have a near death experience I can greentext, however, every time I talk about it it erupts in a shit storm of nonsense.

It's my own personal experience and belief now. While it may not be 100% true, it's just what I think is fact. Will post if there's interest.

>>742556851
I only know of things that come when they're alive.

>>742566223
so funny.

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for all the fags out there thinking your immortal your not.
your personality lives on through social imprinting. Whether that's a child or close friend family member co-worker.
I found myself laughing just like my friend who died...
I found on numerous occasions my child doing saying and finding interests in the same very things I did.
I found my self acting just like my friend who was murdered.. on multiple occasions.. I knew him since I was 13 I am 27 now..
My child is 4 and I see my smile when she smiles I see multiple things in her ..
we live on only through social imprinting..
after you die - you lose consciousness and slip away into the sweet void of nothingness.
its just like falling asleep at night without dreaming.. except you wake back up in the morning..
but point is..
There is just nothing.
It's just an empty void...
my own personal theory is that when you die.. if your lucky enough to die peacefully ...
the brain shuts down one last time and when it does time stretches into infinity and you live within your own memories for ever never really knowing you died... but then again how do you explain super natural phenomenon or the transfer of energy after you die?
Energy has gotta go somewhere.. your consciousness is electric energy..
thought is just the brain sparking between the synapses that make up your dome piece..

once that stops... life as you know it stops and there is only.. the void. accept that and you will live a happier life because you will spend your time alive doing what makes you feel good and you wont feel like you wasted your life on /b/

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>>742566109
Post already it feels like sitting on an atomic bomb to wait

>>742561165
you're supposed to get back there before you die

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>>742558430
Horse shit
Consciousness creates matter by collapsing the wave function
There are two things that constitute the universe, consciousness and resonance
Read the masters of the great mystery schools, it's science. Quantum mechanics concurs
Anything else here other than this explanation is wrong
Good afternoon

>>742566520
tl;dr
>I think I know something that I think you don't.

>>742566608
nah its just my explanation
damn forgot i cant get in /b/ and make my own opinion a statement..

>>742556903
you came from this

so when you return to it, why wouldn't it produce 'you' again?

it already did it once before, we know it's in the nature of 'nothing' to produce lifetimes

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>>742558727
Consciousness exists outside of the body, it's our higher self which in turn is the great void.

>>742556851
All evidence shows that you rot, unless preserved by some method.

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>>742566608
Here's the short version for you..
brain synapses creates thoughts...
when that ends your consciousness ends..
therefor you die.. and there is nothing.
You only live on through social imprinting..
was that short enough for you faggot?

>>742566109
No matter what personal experience you could relate to us, we have no way to verify that it's true at all.

Many people don't seem to take into account that a brain can do loopy things, including inventing memories.

>>742556851
Burial

>>742566675
>my explanation
stated as fact in direct opposition to other people's alleged opinions
>for all the fags out there thinking ______

Okay sure thing buddy. You have a good day now.

>>742556851
Relief

I've given this a lot of thought OP and I have come to the conclusion that I don't know, lol.
The point is none of us KNOW for a fact what happens after we die, not even our greatest scientists can say with 100% certainty.
This my anon friend is what faith is all about. I have often said it takes just as much faith to believe in nothing as it does something and sometimes I think it takes even more.
It comes down to what you want OP, what you innermost desire is. What you wish for is what you will get. And while you're waiting go to your little sister and slip a finger up her butthole.

>>742566739
There is no evidence to support that.
In fact, there is evidence against it.

You. Are. Wrong

Nothing

>>742566912
No... we know pretty extensively what happens to the body after you die.

You will have to first prove that either a soul exists, or that consciousness can continue outside of the host body in order to entertain anything else.
And the lack of evidence for that is telling .

Fucking sick of metaphysical retards and their "feelings" being injected into the argument.
PROVE IT or shut the fuck up

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>>742567093
prove this fuckface

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>>742566914
Gee, do you have time to tell us the truth bout everything else in the whole world mr great mind of all centuries?

>>742567339
that cartoon racoon was not a squirrel
You. Are. Wrong.
Faggot

>>742567193
I never said you could prove a butthole jeez I'm a fag but not an expert

Eternal, dreamless, fucking sleep.

>>742567467
*not a butt expert*
haha I'm such a retard

>>742566109

Welp, here goes

> Be me, 26 (4 years ago)
> Had a back injury a few months prior
> On pain meds for a few weeks
> Doc calls and tells me my insurance won't cover them anymore
> Can switch to a cheaper brand I've never heard of
> Pain sucks balls, why not
> Get meds, head home, try em after others wear off
> The minute I take one, something feels off
> Chest hurts, can't breath, etc etc
> Having a really, REALLY bad reaction
> Call 911, barely able to tell em address
> "Yes sir blah blah blah on our way 10 minutes"
> 10 minutes? God damn lady
> Laying on the floor, scared shitless and quite literally dying

Here's where it gets fun
> Black out
> See and feel nothing
> Calm darkness
> I start to see shapes and outlines of everything around me
> Bed, dresser, desk, it's all being illuminated by some odd glow coming from no where
> Feel myself stand up and look around
> No fear, no emotions, I remember saying "This is acceptable".
> The most vivid part is looking at my hands

This parts hard to explain. If you've seen the movie Lucy, it helps.
> My hands look like strings of coding.
> Everything around me looks like coding, not 0's and 1's, just symbols and nonsense.
> I'm able to interact with them, push things, move the coding strings. The symbols just keep descending down.
> See outlines of the paramedics coming in the house
> They're on the floor next to my body with the de-fib
> Zapped twice
> I black out again from the weird coding world and open my eyes, everything is back to "normal".

Now, if you're thinking I'm going to reference God, Aliens, Religion, The Matrix or living in a computer program, you're all wrong. Here's my personal belief.

From what I witnessed (and later researched). I think all thinks, big, small, living, dead, are tied together by a single thing. Electricity.

Seems stupidly simple right? Now run with me on this. Electricity is universal, we can control it, use it, or let it do it's own thing.

Cont

atheists are just butthurt faggots that can't accept the fact that god not only exists he's a fucking dick and he really hates you
all th faggots with the money? guess who god likes?

>>742557421
>the bible teaches resurrection
the new testament teaches resurrection.
according to the old one, you go to the underworld Sheol where you wander around as shade forever

>>742567702

From what I went through, if I was a "soul" or what not, there was a seamless transition between "living" and "dead".

> Heart stopped for 45 seconds btw

Now, while I don't believe in souls, heaven, hell, whatever, I do believe in reincarnation, and my belief follows along with that.

For the sake of argument, whatever I was, i'm just gonna call it a soul. As a soul thing, I had movement, a (simple) thought process, and could interact with my surroundings. All of those actions (with a body) require some form of electrical impulses from my brain to limbs to complete.

As for the soul itself, it's my belief that we're somehow just masses of information, energy and electricity. These things kept in a certain form (so we're not shredded to nothingness) so we can travel around.

It just keeps getting harder and harder to explain lol. Anyway, with the theory of reincarnation, we live, die, born again, right? And somehow we have "memories" of past lives. But what is a memory? It's just some electrical impulse that sparks in our brains.

Cont?

Reincarnation. You would wait for a new body to become available for your lessons that you need to learn. A person reincarnates on average 1,500 times until their soul decides which path to follow on a permanent basis, Service-to-Self (evil, hate towards others) or Service-to-Other (love, assistance towards others). Each of these two paths are separate and no longer cross. One is literally hellish and the other heaven like.

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>>742568158
I'll allow it

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>>742566912

>>742568419

Yeah I know, it's absolute nonsense, but personally it makes sense.

I'll end it with this.

I believe we live in a universe that operates on it's own system, where everything is governed by electrical impulses and coded information.

It's not The Matrix, there's no God or heaven, no afterlife, it's the same loop over and over.

For whatever reason we're here, everything has it's own code, rules to follow, and direction.

That being said, humans specifically live and die endlessly. Our brains, nervous system and all of the thoughts and memories we have are our own. When we die, we become some form of energy that has it's own unique code of information. When it's time again, we become "living" again, by following whatever coding matches with ours. We can't control it, we don't understand it, but it has a direction and we follow it.

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>>742567093
We've got a tipper over here

>>742556851
Is this a multiple choice question?

You never die. Your relative experience is almost unaffected by the laws of nature. Anytime you're in a life or death scenario the self, or your soul, experiences the one where you do not die. Forever. Leading to an inevitable and eventual endless cycle of suffering

no one really dies

I believe in Crom. If I die, I have to go before him, and he will ask me, 'What is the riddle of steel?' If I don't know it, he will cast me out of Valhalla and laugh at me

>>742556851
Infinite trap porn

Maggots...

Decomposition

>>742556851
metal

It's so fucking arrogant to think that you are special enough to do anything other then rot in your casket after death.

>>742570694
even more arrogant to believe people will put you in a casket when cremation is 10 times cheaper

>>742559959
>being this dense

>>742560345
I bet I can shoot the voice out.

>>742561441
This is comfy as fuck.
An actual light at the end of the tunnel.

>>742563270
A well read anon appears.

>>742565113
>your

>>742566520
I like this I found it strangely comforting

>>742567093
actually there was a study done that shows that immediately after someone dies they weigh 1 gram less than when they were alive
>the soul weights 0.98 grams

>>742567193
that is a man's butthole

>>742567410
bitch he is Rocky the flying squirrel.

>>742570079
does anyone know the answer to this 'riddle'???

>>742571073
Please don't let me be the only one left posting in this depressing thread lol

>>742575015
oh God no.
Did you all get JOBS????

>>742559838
Did you just call me a dumb fuck? Lucky nigger. I would have totally kicked your ass if this wasn't internet