>Adult chooses to kill himself of his own free will without

>>742478536
also interested

>>742478536
You know what, small-dicked faggot? Go fap to her pics silenlty in your fucking room till you die. No fucking need to spam this board with this shit again and again. Fucking pathetic faggot.

>defending her in hopes you get laid

>>742478536
he walked out of the car and she talked him back in to die

if that goes over your head this is prolly not a conversation worth having

>>742478536
god damn that cunt is ugly. i will be glad when people stop posting her

sage

>>742478951
Quoted for truth

>>742479014
She didn't force him by gunpoint

>>742478973
Get laid by who?

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>>742478536
hope she rots in jail for life

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>>742478536
>

>>742478536
read the transcripts.

She had a desperate beta cuck wrapped around her finger. he did anything she asked. she manipulated him to do it and that it was the best thing for everyone including his family.

Ad revenue.

The only reason is ad revenue. Jews sell the story through media brands. Sensational content makes money. Bored white people make it a cause to garner attention to fill the void in their lives. Public interest literally rewrote case law.

Rip humans

>>742479014
He made the decision to get back in. His fault.

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>>742478536
>Please explain how this works.
the judge found her guilty of a crime. He knows the law better than you do. /thread

>>742479113
This is why.

>>742478536

I actually know the family involved, they're over in MA and a HUGE group had signatures to convince the judge not to emprision her.

This Country makes it's own criminals.

>>742479087
She will only get 15 months, if she loses the appeal. And why would you want someone who never committed any crime in prison at all.

>>742479089
How is that white knighting

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>>742479113
>Jews

>>742478536
She's ugly, so she deserves to go to prison.

>>742478536
You fags get told valid arguments on a daily basis that you choose to ignore while you're spamming this shit. You do realize she's not going to fuck you for "defending m'ladys honor on kek boards" right? Or are you that delusional? If you didn't find this fivehead bitch attractive you wouldn't give a fuck.

what niggerfaggot makes this thread every single day?

is this what memes are now?

>>742479130
This

>>742479014
He made the decision to get back in the car. He had all the freedom to do whatever.

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>>742479098
That's not true, if he did anything she said, then he would have gotten help when she told him to, but he refused. And she didn't manipulate him, she just told him to do what he told her he wanted to for months. It was him who said his death was the best thing for him, not the other way around. Well she later said it too, but only because he said it first.

>>742478536
When your such a bitch that it lands you in prison, don't be surprised when what you do has consequences. It's called life.

>>742479130
ok, so next question. How do you have such shitty laws?

>>742479130
It's literally just one man's interpretation of the law. That's why we have appeals. Judges are overturned all the time.

Also, state court judges are far from the brightest legal minds.

>>742479130
Obviously not if he messed up this bad. This is why appeals and false imprisonments and false convictions exist, because many times judges are very stupid or make up their own laws.

>>742479177
Which family are you talking about, the girls or the boys? She's already been sentenced, nothing can be done now, except for her to win the appeal. Which the judge will have no say in.

>>742479330
>How do you have such shitty laws?
she encouraged someon who was mentally unstable and emotionally fragile to kill themselves. I don't think someone like that going to jail is a bad thing.

>>742478536
because merica

>>742479219
I have yet to see a single valid argument for how she broke any laws. Or how the guy was wholely responsible for his death.

>>742479528
*wasn't

>>742478536
Office course OP, you massive faggot, just like Jim Jones, during the Johnestown mass suicide/massacre

"But the guy didn't force anyone to commit suicide, the 914 followers of Jim Jones all agreed to suicide, so I mean he can't be guilty, right?"

That's not how shit works.
The law is clear, if you make people suicide, you should be held accountable.

The guy would have lived if she didn't intervene.
He got out of his car he was smoking with fumes, and told her by text. She told him to finish what he started and kill himself.

She is guilty of manslaughter and that's it.
If you disagree, you're a bigger that doesn't understand the law.

>>742479351
>It's literally just one man's interpretation of the law.
who knows the law better than you, and who's opinion on law is considered expert.

>>742479300
She's not in prison yet, and she wasn't a bitch, she just told him to do what he said he wanted to do. But he's entirely to blame for his decision to do it.

>>742478536
Please go away troll

I think she's always been a fuckugly cunt

Either way I don't think coercing somebody via vocal means and text is murder. Its hardly even manslaughter. If she have him a loaded gun or a means to do it. Then Its manslaughter. But bullying and harassing is not.

This is what happens when you have a generation full of blowhearts who were taught bullying is had in school.

>>742479584
Spelled *nigger wrong at the end

>>742479377
ok, so her appeal will be successful then :^)

is this a meme now?

or just a fucktard posting it 5 times a day?

>>742479632
Seriously though, either you're an adult with control of your life or you're handicapped and be to be cared for.
Which was he?

>>742479497
Encouraging suicide is legal in her state. Also he wasn't mentally unstable. And yes it is a bad thing when someone is falsely imprisoned. Also she only told him to because that's what he said he wanted.

>>742479291
It is illegal to encourage people to kill themselves.

>>742479687
Hopefully.

>>742479120
>>742479255

>coercion and manipulation are imaginary things that don't happen in real life

>>742479744
>Encouraging suicide is legal in her state.
not anymore, bucko :^)

>>742479755
No it's not in her state, thats why they had to go for the nonsensical involuntary manslaughter charge.

>>742479605
>who knows the law better than you

Dumbass, the law is vague and open to multiple interpretations. There is no absolute right answer. However, the Pandora's box this judge opened up by interpreting the law this broadly is likely to be overturned. He knows it himself, which is why he stayed her sentence pending appeal.

>>742479837
Yes it still is.

>>742479777
She didn't manipulate him. She just told him to do what he said he wanted to do for months. How is that manipulation. If anything she was manipulated by him into agreeing with his death, whereas before she didn't want him to go through with it. Also coercion means that she threatened or forced him into, she never did that.

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>>742479886
>There is no absolute right answer.
So why are you complaining about the decision made?

>>742479671
This is true, but she didn't coerce him.

>>742478951
/thread

>>742479966
>>On July 12, 2014, a day before Roy was found dead, Carter wrote: “So I guess you aren’t gonna do it then, all that for nothing. … I’m just confused like you were so ready and determined.”

“I am gonna eventually,” Roy responded. “I really don’t know what I’m waiting for … but I have everything lined up.”

“No, you’re not, Conrad. Last night was it. You keep pushing it off and you say you’ll do it but u never do. Its always gonna be that way if u don’t take action,” Carter replied. “You’re just making it harder on yourself by pushing it off, you just have to do it.”

He was wavering and wasn't really sure if he wanted to do it or not. She basically pushed him over the edge.

stop fucking posting this, your "wife" isn't even pretty. she was lucky that she only got 15 months.

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>>742479906
>Yes it still is.
Not in her case

>>742479969
Because criminal laws should be interpreted as narrowly as possible, and this one clearly wasn't.

>>742478536

imagine caring about this bobble-headed hoe for longer than 0.5 seconds

>>742480052
15 months is too long for not committing any crime.

>>742479880
If that's true, fine. I'm curious how they made it into involuntary manslaughter, but I'll roll with it. Otherwise, she's still guilty.

>>742478536
my mama used to ask me if someone told me to jump off a bridge would I do it?

at 5 years old I thought the obvious answer was no.

>>742480037
She told him to do what he told her he wanted to do for months. How is that manipulation. Also how is that coercion. And there's nothing wrong with telling someone to kill themselves. If he didn't want to do it, he just wouldn't have done it.

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>>742480102
>and this one clearly wasn't.
Too bad a judge who studied law and knows it better than you is the one making the decision then, huh

>>742480084
Bad rulings don't change the law. The conviction just needs to be overturned on appeal.

>>742479377
most people plea bargain even if they're not guilty
99% of criminals admit guilt before trial

>>742478536
lifted right from the definition of involuntary manslaughter:
Three elements must be satisfied in order for someone to be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

>Someone was killed as a result of the defendant's actions.
>The act either was inherently dangerous to others or done with reckless disregard for human life.
>The defendant knew or should have known his or her conduct was a threat to the lives of others.

>>742479886
no it's not you dumb ass, the law is really fucking complex and in detail. She is was in assist suicide, it's the same if you see a crime happen and you don't call authority you're charged with assisting in the crime

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>>742480273
Good luck with that

>>742480182
No she's not guilty of anything. The involuntary manslaughter charge makes no sense, one he intended on him dying, so it wasn't involuntary, and two, in manslaughter you must kill someone somehow, he killed himself.

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>>742479584
OP's a dumbass. Probably some college student jumping back into the semester with knowledge and expertize of listening in on his friends' conversations who study law and has seen far too many Law and Order episodes.

He just wants to fit in somehow but OP, you're not doing it right. If you can't see that this bitch was practically the cause or rather motivation for his suicide, there is no point in trying to have us explain. You're either really good at method acting for a troll or you seriously think that there is some chance that she could be innocent. Man if only you were in that case through and only if those lawyers with years of training and experience knew as much about the law as you.

>>742480329
She didn't assist in the suicide. And if you see a crime happen, you don't have to call the authorities what are you talking about.

>>742480182
Your reading comprehension is fucking awful and you do not understand what some of those words mean.

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>>742480405
>Man if only you were in that case through and only if those lawyers with years of training and experience knew as much about the law as you.

>>742478536
because it's everyone's fault but his and the parents, now go kys.
(don't really, I don't want to go to jail since it would be my fault apparently)

>>742480405
He was the cause of his own suicide. I don't know what his motivation was exactly, other than he didn't like his life so he wanted to end it, but I mean I don't know why he disliked his life, I read his father beat him. Anyway she wasn't the motivation definitely seeing as how he had tried killing himself multiple times before without her.

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>>742480440
yes you can and yes she did assist the suicide .

>>742480313
What does that plea bargain thing have to do with what I said. You lifted that off a wiki like website, not the legal definition. On that same site that you lifted that from though, it explains the difference between involuntary and voluntary manslaughter, being intent, which she had, so she definitely didn't commit involuntary anything, but she also didn't commit manslaughter since he caused his own death.

Go fuck yourself /b/

>>am going to prison for involuntary rape for 6mo

>>742480211
Clearly at the point that he said he wasn't so sure and at the point that he walked out of the car he was killing himself in, he didn't want those things anymore.

You can't just say "well he wanted it two months ago so I better make sure he goes through with it now although he seems to no longer actually want to kill himself"

>>742480620
Yes you can what? I don't know what that screenshot is for. No she didn't assist in his suicide, she just told him to do it, and it's not against the law in her state to encourage suicide. That screenshot is talking about crimes though, suicide is not a crime.

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>>742480577
Yeah but that's wrong.

Let's bring up the one case where these teens were at a lake and saw a junkie wading in the water. They knew he was drowning but did practically nothing to help. I think they were let off easy because they did not necessarily lead to the man's death because all they did was witness it. If they had told the dude to do it beforehand, like if he was at the edge of the water and contemplated it, then they might have gotten into more trouble because they practically had him do it.

In this case with the girl, she is guilty of assisting suicide because she egged him on. She could have said one line like that, let's say she was just trying to be satirical, and it may not have been as severe for her. But since she basically acted as an angel of death and held his hand through the whole thing, she has some responsibility for it because just as much as she caused it to happen, she could have just as well prevented it. THAT'S why she is being punished.

>>742480802
She couldn't "make" sure he goes through it", she couldn't make him do anything. He chose to do everything he did. And if he didn't want to kill himself, then why did he kill himself without being threatened into it or forced. If you mean you can't tell someone to kill themselves, you can.

OP clearly never read the transcripts

>>742480923
What's wrong? They weren't "let off easy" that makes it sound like they got a slap on the wrist despite doing something illegal. They got no punishment at all because they didn't do anything illegal. You aren't under any obligation to call the police or help when someone is dying. Telling someone to do something is not assisting them. She didn't cause his death to happen, he caused his own death to happen, and she had no obligation to prevent it. She's being punished because the judge made up his own law.

>>742480211
>When your girlfriend sees you as a failure.

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>>742480952
>you can.
tell that to her lmao

>>742480737
false imprisonments and convictions exist because most people don't even attempt to fight a false charge, nor give any judge, smart or not, a chance to see otherwise.

they choose the lesser of evils: a very reduced sentence by plea over an *iffy* chance of getting out of maximum sentence.

>>742478536
You don't need to get physical to force someone to do something.

Psychology is a hell of a drug.

>>742478536
explain why you make this thread everyday

also, do you understand anything about the human mind? its not that hard to understand what she did.

She deserves to be in jail for being a cunt, and if she doesnt deserves it, who cares

>>742480233
He obviously doesn't know the law better than him if he made such a huge mistake. Assuming it was even a mistake and he wasn't just knowingly making up his own laws.

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>>742481137
>You aren't under any obligation to call the police or help when someone is dying.

>>742478536
arya stark looking ass nigger lipped dimwit

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>>742481137
He caused his own death, yes, but would he really have done it if she didn't keep on saying "do it"?

>>742478536
>without being threatened into it or forced

>without

there's your answer poppy. SHe told him to do and kept calling and texting telling him to do it. He tried to stop and she kept cajoling, shaming and encouraging him to finish the job.

tell me you don't actually have shit for brains, OP.

>too late

>>742481255
And they also exist because of the many bad verdicts.

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>>742481284
>He obviously doesn't know the law better than him
the /b/tard knows better than the judge

>>742479054
dick sucker

>>742478536
>1498655520116.jpg

tits or gtfo

>>742481237
Thats the point, she's been falsely convicted.

>>742479061
its "on gunpoint" you dinwit

>>742481390
>He tried to stop and she kept cajoling, shaming and encouraging him to finish the job.
this

>>742478536
>im an idiot

we know that, op

>>742481437
It's at gunpoint...

>>742481291
Yes are you retarded.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/20/us/florida-teens-drowning-man/index.html

"Florida teens who recorded drowning man will not be charged in his death"

"Police: Family of victim 'frustrated' in lack of accountability"

You have no obligation to call the police when someone is dying or anything else.

>>742481437
It's at gunpoint
>dinwit
>DINWIT
I don't want to live on this planet anymore

>>742481558
Shit maybe in Florida but not everywhere

>>742481351
Don't know, but in the end he made the decision. Had he chosen a different decision, he'd still be alive. Therefore his death is entirely his own fault.

>>742479255
>>742479061
>>742479120
He had inhaled some of the gases in the car, putting him in a vulnerable state where it was determined he couldn't make a proper decision

This is the crucial technicality that retards don't ever seem to know

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Like wtf? haha

How the fuck is OP this dense? You're not even acknowledging the points we make, nor are you even considering the facts.

What. The. fuck OP? I've known people that are like you but soon admit they're wrong if the facts are stated against them.

Man, and I thought honey was dense but fucken a, OP. You're really letting your intelligence shine here.

>>742481558
>>742481607
Only because it's Florida. That's why they were let off easily.

>>742481390
It's not illegal in her state to encourage suicide. Besides that, even after she started telling him to do it, one time she told him if he doesn't want to kill himself anymore, she will get him help, he chose the kill himself option. He always wanted to kill himself, she just started showing support after he spent months telling her it was the only way for him to be happy. Regardless it was his decision whether to do it or not in the end.

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>>742481435
The judge isn't physically dragging her into a cell and and keeping her imprisoned. It's not his fault she's in jail :^)

>>742481408
Yes, if the judge actually made a mistake, and didn't just purposely make up his own law, then the other anon knows the law better than him.

>>742481390
>cajoling
Holy shit am I the only person who's never seen this word

How many times have I heard it ?

>>742481607
It's the same in her state.

>>742481783
Stop saying they were "let off easily" like they committed a crime and got a slap on the wrist. They committed no crime and did nothing wrong, same as me choosing to eat a pizza or anything else that's not illegal. And so they got no punishment same as whenever anyone does something not illegal. You don't have to call the police when someone is dying.

>>742481845
then why was there even a case

>>742481709
There is no reason to think him inhaling some fumes hindered his decision making. He got in the car the first time without the fumes, so why would you think it was only the fumes that made him get in the second time.

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>>742481999
I'm saying let off easily because they were let off easily. Not saying they got a slap on the wrist, that would imply they had to be punished somehow. In their case, they were let off easy, no charges were against them.

But yes, I see your point. Even if it is bullshit semantics you're arguing about here.

I think everyone arguing about the Florida kids needs to google "Good Samaritan law". It's selectively applicable in certain states and some not

>>742481739
I've acknowledged every point anyone's made, and I know all the facts of the case.

>>742482056
It wasn't only the fumes, it was her telling him to. Because he tried to get out?

>>742482056
>so why would you think it was only the fumes that made him get in the second time.

Because he got out and didn't want to do it. So it's either the fumes or her telling him that. That's why she was convicted.

>>742481814
She's not in jail yet, she won't be until the appeal is over, assuming she loses the appeal.

>>742482011
What are you talking about.

>>742482184
>tried to get out

He did get out, no one could stop him from getting out. Same as no one could make him get back in, he chose to get back in.

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>>742482178
Are you considering them though? Like do you see what we are saying?

And bullshit you know everything about the case. You weren't there so you can't speculate unless you watched it beginning to end as close as the actual lawyers on the case. And even then, you don't have the proper evidence to correct the judge on his possible "mistake". I highly doubt you know anymore about the law then what google provides you.

>>742482204
She was convicted because the judge made up a law. And if you think the fumes messed him up, then wouldn't you think that it was only the fumes that made him get out in the first place? Seeing as how he got in without the fumes, and only got out with the fumes? And what made him get back in was his decision to get back in.

>>742482590
>She was convicted because the judge made up a law.
see >>742482011

>>742482466
But once againhe supposedly was all loopy from the gases, and she told him to. don't necessarily agree, just letting you know that's what got her in the eyes of the law.

>>742482510
I have read what people are saying. For the most part the statements they are making are pretty stupid and nonsensical. I know all the information about the case that was released, if that's not everything then I don't know everything, but I think I know enough. I do have enough evidence to correct the judge on his mistake, he laid out his reasonings for why he ruled it, and it made no sense.

>>742482778
Well. What are you gonna do about it then? Cause just as how we can't sway your opinion, you won't sway mine. So are you just gonna keep on the high road and tell everyone they're wrong including the judge or are you gonna stop wasting time and write a 'complaint' to the judge? To be honest, I would rather see you try the latter.

>>742482726
There's no reason to think that he was "loopy" from the gases. And the judge didn't bring that up during the reasoning for his verdict.

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>>742482778
>I do have enough evidence to correct the judge on his mistake
shoulda been in the courtroom, phoenix wright

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>>742478536
she did it with her mind powers

>>742478536
Suicide is illegal so she's an accessory to a crime
Booyah

>>742482725
What are you trying to say here. There was a case because she was charged with a crime. She didn't commit said crime though. The judge made up his own law and convicted her of a crime she didn't commit.

>>742482590
>100% conjecture

I love /b/

>>742483021
No she was not an accessory. And suicide is legal everywhere in the US.

>>742478951
yep, this

>>742482319

oh no it's retarded

>>742482949
Some people will be swayed. The ones that listen to logic.

>>742482991
How would me being in the courtroom, make the judge not make up his own laws?

>>742483102
No it not

>>742483047
It wasn't just the judge that thought ahe was guilty. The police, prosecutor, etc.

Justice was served. She should have gotten more time, tbh

>>742482590

When unprecedented things happen, we make up laws. What do you think all of our laws are? Do you honestly believe they've been set in stone for eternity, untouched by human hands? Something like this has never been brought to court, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't legislate for it. You're a fucking idiot if you think any government is done making laws.

>>742483096
There's no conjecture there.

>>742483222
>>742483222
Look those repeating digits
I did good

>>742479014

>If someone told you to jump off a bridge...

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>>742483222
Yes it is.

>>742483333
Oh my goodness I've done it again

>>742478536
Why do you post this retarded thread again? It's like you still don't know shit about this case.

>>742483148
At least read something about the case before making a statement. She is not in jail yet, the judge stayed her sentence until the appeal is over, she will only be going to jail if she loses the appeal.

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>>742483221
Maybe your infallible logic would have convinced him, phoenix. You know everything about the case and can prove him wrong, after all.

>>742479255
By that logic Charles mason is completely innocent.

>>742483347
I can't hear you over my trips >>742483222 and quads >>742483333

>>742483429
I'm >>742481814
but not >>742483148

>>742478536
>Adult chooses to kill himself of his own free will
^Wrong. He was pressured into it. Thats how this works bitch.

>>742483242
Wow the prosecutor thought she was guilty. Doesn't that go without saying. And her defense lawyers thought she was innocent. There was no justice served, what justice is there in locking someone up who committed no crime.

>>742483262
You're retarded. She did not commit the crime she was charged with, therefore she should have been found innocent.

>>742483592
How does someone telling you to do something take away your free will. Are you retarded. Kill yourself. See how you're not going to do what I just told you because you have free will and me telling you to kill yourself doesn't take away your free will and actually force you to kill yourself.

>>742478536
bich got like couple of years, so big deal?
if someone did that to a human (woman), there'd be serious consequences

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>>742483617
>who committed no crime.
involuntary manslaughter

>>742483461
Charles Manson told people to kill people, it's incitement and a crime to tell someone to commit a crime. Suicide is not a crime. And encouraging suicide is legal in her state.

>convinced someone to commit suicide

Sounds like a garbage human being to me, she's ugly too.

>>742483831
She got 15 months. And that's too long for someone who didn't commit a crime.

>>742483866
>not involuntary
>not manslaughter

Try again.

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>>742483930
>And encouraging suicide is legal in her state.
too bad involuntary manslaughter isn't

>>742478536
Its illegal to call in a fake bomb threat. You can be arrested for giving police false information. Hate speech can eventually turn into a hate crime. Words are enough to get you into legal trouble. "Freedom of speech" goes only so far. You would know this if you actually understood the law instead of pretending you do.

She was lucky to get the slap on the wrist she got, as she is obviously a sociopath.

>>742483975
Yea if she was just going around trying to get random people to kill themselves, that would come off as pretty bad. But she told him to do it because he spent months telling her it was the only way for him to be happy. Besides that the guy was a psychopath who was trying to get her to kill herself with him in a Romeo and Juliet like fashion. He might have gotten a different girl to do it. So he needed to die. But she didn't kill him, he killed himself.

>>742484054
She didn't do that so there shouldn't be a problem.

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>>742484024
>Try again.
I don't have to. Sounds like a job for the retrail you're gonna be a pivotal part of, Phoenix

>>742483831
I think that's a point that's being missed here.

In this case the guilty party is a woman, but a very unlikable one with some apparent culpability- but imagine the precedent that this sets.

Wait until a victim that garners more sympathy comes along. Say, a cute (but psycho) blonde woman from a family with money. She kills herself after being dumped- and her boyfriend catches a manslaughter charge because he was callous or some shit.

We're heading into some really insane shit here.

>>742483818
I actually find it funny when someone does that. "KYS! See! I didnt commit a crime, hur dur." when its not the same circumstances. Call me on my phone. Harass me day and night till I kill myself. And when I try to stop goad me back into it. If I die, then its the close to being the same thing.

See this is why I miss IDs on 4Chan. I could then proceed to ignore every further stupid comment you make, as you have obviously shown how unqualified you are to talk about this.

>>742484061
None of those things you said had anything to do with this case. But it does show me the kind of idiots who want her in prison, you want to ban "hate speech". No, hate speech is apart of freedom of speech, kill yourself. Also she's not a sociopath just for telling him to do what he said he wanted.

>>742481558
It's because in Murcia, the person you help will later charge you with assault. Good decision on the teens part.

>>742484165
The man you're describing is obviously not mentally stable, and she told that man to commit suicide, driving him over the edge.

Like I said she's a garbage human

>>742484354
>No, hate speech is apart of freedom of speech
Well you are wrong. Simple as that. (:

>>742484506
Fucking tumblards

>>742484287
>"KYS! See! I didnt commit a crime, hur dur."

Are you making fun of the idea that it's not a crime? It's not a crime you retard. Also she never harassed him, he never told her to stop contacting him. Wouldn't make sense for him to do that anyway since all she was saying was do what he had been telling her he wanted to do. Also what do you mean "try" to stop, you just stop if you want to stop, you don't "try", there's nothing physically stopping you from stopping.

>>742484354
Showing that words are enough to get charged with a crime has a lot to do with someones words getting them charged with a crime.

Like are you just fucking retarded or are you trolling?

>>742484598
In your mind no one can be talked into anything.
You are wrong.

>>742484506
Back to europe to be killed by muslims. Unless you're a muslim yourself then please leave Europe.

>>742484555
I love how easy it is to get you people angry. Like "Here are some facts of life." And you RAGE...its fun.

>>742478536
pic unrelated?

>>742484492
He was mentally stable. And she told him to do it because he spent months telling her death was the only way for him to be happy. How is she a garbage human for supporting him in what he said would make him happy?

>>742484354
>hate speech is apart of freedom of speech
totally agree. those are completely different.

>>742483699

>she did not commit the crime

that's obviously open to interpretation, and i'm going to trust a judge that studied law over an anonymous dick on b

>>742484739
You realize the only people who think "Hate speech is a part of free speech." are people who regularly participate in hate speech? Like of course the murderer thinks murder should be legal.

Its the stuff like this that puts you in a lower class than me. Not where you live or how much money you have, but the fact that you are a sewer rat compared to me. I have intellect...you have nothing. :->

>>742484618
No one said that words aren't enough to be charged with a crime. Are you legitimately retarded?

>>742484933
>Samefagging
Lol

>>742484764
You'd think that with a narcissistic blowhard in the White House, shitlibs would think just a little bit harder about the implications of banning "hate speech".

i.e. "that's fake news" becomes "that's hate speech". Any and all criticism gets shut down by the feds, and the snowflakes get thrown in jail.

>>742484693
I never said that. But in the end whatever you do is your decision. Unless you are threatened or forced into it.

>>742483435
Ok, I've been lurking this thread the whole time. But what's with like the 15 appeals to authority in this thread? Oh, a judge ruled it. He's a a JUDGE guys, HE JUDGES. THIS WAS A JDUGMENT. You're wrong OP, are you a JUDGE?

>>742478536
The issue is not that she told him to kill himself, but who she is/was when she told him to do so. Just as we would hold a shrink responsible if he told a patient to kill themselves. She was his GF and held influence over him. He trusted her and valued her opinions. Thus, she had a position of limited power in his life and it was proven that had she not influenced him, he may not have gone through with it.

>>742485009
You're a muslim aren't you.

>>742484887
>a man who spent months saying the only way for him to be happy was to die
>he wanted her to kill herself with him
>this man is mentally stable

You just called him a psychopath earlier aka mentally unstable, but now he's stable so it fits your narrative?

She's a garbage human because she told a mentally unstable man on the verge of suicide to do it

>>742485059
>No one said that words aren't enough to be charged with a crime.
Every single person that is saying she committed no crime is, in fact, saying that.

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>>742484887
>He was mentally stable.
>he spent months telling her death was the only way for him to be happy.

>>742485073
nah, just came here.

>>742478536
Your waifu deserves to get raped to death in prison by a massive nigger dick.

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>>742478536
Same fucking post, every single day. Don't you niggers have anything creative?

>>742484995
Why would you trust a judge over your own logic. Did you trust the judge over your own logic in the OJ case as well?

>>742485073
did you even get the joke?

>>742485127
Because a judge knows more about the law than OP, guaranteed.

>>742485232
No, they are saying what she did was not a crime. That what she did happened to be speech, does not mean that they are saying all speech aren't crimes. You are retarded.

>>742478536
she's not going to fuck you op.

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Whelp, clearly that man had nothing to do with his own death, he just had to kill himself for she had pushed him and that is clearly enough to force him to commit suicide. There was clearly no other way to handle her bullying, so clearly he was forced to have to an hero his way outta the situation...That women is a murderer for telling someone something not so nice and then that person taking the pussy way out of life because he can handle his feelies getting hurt...duh.

>>742485097
If some fat black chick gets called "Fatty." as she is eating in a restauran , thats not hate speech. Thats someone being a dick, sure, but thats not a crime. Now if she is eating, and some guy starts screaming "Nigger! Fat nigger bitch! You fucking niggers outta be hung like your ancestors! NIGGERS!", thats hate speech, thats a hate crime.

I know I just spent this whole time explaining this to someone who obviously knows this and is choosing to ignore it, either because he is a devils advocate or he is that fucking stupid, but now that I have done this. I dont have to explain it again to all the other inbred redneck fuck faces in this thread.

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>>742485293
But the judge didn't make the call in that case. It was a jury, who doesn't know as much about the law as a judge would.

>>742485213
Yea I called him a psychopath in the sense that he was a evil person, as in, he did evil things. I would also call a serial killer a psychopath, even though they are completely mentally well and capable of making their own decisions, they chose to do evil things. It is the same in this case, he was completely mentally stable.

>>742485249
Yes how do those contradict each other.

you guys are retarded. if you know someone is gonna die and you don't call the cops, you can be charged with involuntary manslaughter. this has been a thing for a long time

>>742485174
Not a muslim. Just someone who knows better than all of you it seems. (>")>

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>>742485559
Nah, she isn't a murderer. That's ludicrous. She is an involuntary manslaughterer, though.

>>742478536
>OP has autism
>Please demonstrate why I won't die alone obsessing over model trains

I just want you to not breed OP, is that so much to ask?

>>742485122
In your mind no one can be talked into anything.
One again, you are wrong.

I would like to point out that there are literally millions of people who put stock into the idea that when they die some magical shit happens and they get to go chill with Jimi Hendrix or some shit. People are beyond fucking stupid and gullible. Look no further than this very thread.

>>742485741
No it hasn't and no you can't see
>>742481558

You have no obligation to call the police when someone is dying.

>>742485744
You have to be a muslim. No one besides cucked europeans and muslims would say that hate speech is not free speech.

>>742485475
Well they are wrong, what she did was a crime. So then why is everyone still talking...oh, cause they dont like being wrong, lol.

>>742485741
Only if there is concrete proof that you know. And if you arent actually there then thats pretty much your concrete gone.

Also, you are a over-confident faggot who needs to be caught out by the police to teach you a lesson.

Cunt.

>>742485626
Judges have made the same mistake.

>>742485966
I never said no one can be talked into anything. But in the end it is still your decision on what you choose to do. Are you implying one you attempt to "talk someone into something", they lose their free will? Because that's a no.

>>742486095
>free speech

is only protected for political speech
and that is important

does not apply to psychological manipulation with the intent to harm

>>742478536
still not going to sleep with you op

>>742485966
What do you mean "I would like to point out"? The idea of Heaven is shared by millions of /b/ users. You are not superior to them, as much as your autism says you are.

>>742485656
>I don't want my ugly waifu to be in the wrong so I'll call the poor man she told to commit suicide evil


A mentally stable man does not think for four months that the only way for him to be happy is too die. He was a troubled individual, and instead of helping him (By having him seek medical help or otherwise attempting to talk him out of it) she told him to kill himself.

The fact that you're even still attempting to argue this is astounding

>>742486095
Free Speech protects you from things like government censorship and protecting you from backlash when you give harsh criticism. That kind of thing. Its not some kind of right to be a complete piece of shit to another human being.

And I am an American. One of the only ones, it seems.

>>742486098
No she committed no crime, especially not the one she was charged with.

>>742485966
You sound like one of those people the world would not miss if you disappeared. Like one of the useless spergs

>>742486399
No, I am in fact superior to you people. Shocking news I am sure...

I mean in terms of intellect, decision making, deductive reasoning, etc. Stuff like that. In terms of having ridiculous and destructive outlooks on life and such, well that I leave to you people.

>>742486383
She didn't manipulate him, she just told him to do what he said he wanted to do. If anything he manipulated her into agreeing with his death whereas before she was against it. Besides that, I was specially talking about the hate speech thing, not this case.

>>742486440
"And one of the only ones it seems" you are not American. You are a fascist. You disgust me. My brothers and sisters and I are coming for you motherfucker

>>742486642
>She didn't manipulate him
>>742479014
>he walked out of the car and she talked him back in to die

>>742486379
There is literally a hit country song called Jesus take the wheel where I woman basically admits she cant lead her life at all and she needs an unseen mystical force to lead her life for her. There are literally people who dont eat pork or beef cause they think they will go to hell.

If you wanted to know how stupid we all are as a species look no further than religion. If you cant see that she committed a crime than you have no reason to continue talking to me. You are wrong and nothing will convince you otherwise. So this is a moot point.

>>742486438
He was evil, he tried to get the girl to kill herself with him just so he could have someone to die with. I think what he did deserves the death penalty. Adults can't just be going around trying to convince underaged girls to kill themselves. Yes he was a mentally stable man, who just didn't like his life so he wanted to kill himself. She did try to help him though, told him to get help and not to kill himself, but he refused, and once he made it clear the only way for him to be happy was to kill himself, she supported him in his decision.

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>>742486602
Hahaha yeah nah cunt, you worship asians and the soles of feet, you go the chambers with the rest of them. Unless you'd prefer a helicopter ride?

>>742486440
Freedom of Speech allows you to voice your opinion. If your opinion is that you hate a race or religion, you are allowed to speak it. Kill yourself. America will never turn into Europe and hate speech will never be outlawed.

>>742486771
Telling someone to do what they've been saying they want to do, is not manipulating them.

>>742486651
Lol. Call me whatever you want bucko. I care not about insults from a psycho.

America was built on the backs of good men, and people like you tarnish that everyday with every breath you take. You have lost this war and people like you will always lose this war. The treads of progress move forward every day, and you will do nothing but get crushed underneath. Its poetic. Your blood will lay the very foundation for which we will build this country anew. It will be glorious.

>>742486836
>Adults can't just be going around trying to convince underaged girls to kill themselves.

But it's absolutely fine the other way around?

>She did try to help him though, told him to get help and not to kill himself, but he refused, and once he made it clear the only way for him to be happy was to kill himself, she supported him in his decision.


So what I'm hearing is she didn't follow through on help, did a 180 and told the dude to kill himself when he was having doubts on doing so.

How can you be so dumb sir

>>742486780
None of your post had anything to do with anything. But she did not commit any crime for all the reasons I already laid out. And people being stupid or not in your opinion doesn't nullify anything that has been said.

>>742486473
Whats it like being wrong and being unable to even comprehend it? Is it scary? Do you feel alone at times?

I wouldnt know.

It is almost painful at times knowing everything.

>>742486500
Well in your mind intellect and knowledge should be feared and shunned. Then you should be very, very afraid of me indeed.

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>>742478536
>>742478536

>>742487088
What she did was fine, she only told him to kill himself because he spent months telling her death was the only way for him to be happy. She told him to kill himself out of goodness, from what he himself said, is the best thing for him. And it was after telling him not to for months. Him on the other hand, just found some underaged girl to victimize, and tried to get her to kill herself with him just to have someone to die with out of selfishness. What he did was evil, what she did was good. Yes she followed through on the help, from what he himself said, the way to help him was for him to die.

>>742487150
When they are so stupid they cant understand something, then yes, it nullifies everything they say.

You people cant touch me. You people cant even see me.

>>742487022
It is when he gets outta the car and she pleads with him to do it. If she was a random person, maybe not, but he took her suggestion to heart more because she was his gf. She leveraged the "love" they had to manipulate him into "finishing the job".

>>742486948
>hate speech will never be outlawed.
Hate to be the one to tell you this but...it already is. :(

>>742487172
>It is almost painful at times knowing everything.

Are you a middle or high schooler trolling?

Meanwhile, in the first world, we have laws against not alerting emergency services when you know someone's dying.

>>742487448
In Europe.

>>742487326
she did nothing wrong

>>742486841
You realize you people arent even human? Like humans have integrity, they are intellectuals, they have well thought out ideas and opinions.

You "people" have much more in common with the animals then your own species. Its tragic.

>>742482056
If this isn't bait you are a fucking retard. It doesn't take much gas fumes being pumped directly into the cab of a pickup to raise your CO level to the point of severe and even delusional impaired thinking process. It'd be the same as telling an adult you know to be retarded or under the influence of any mild altering substance that if he jumps off a bridge he will fly and then he does it.

>>742487484
I am a god, it seems anyways. :)

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>>742478536
She felt bad because she was supposed to be twins and instead she was born a single person with 2 foreheads. She's been out for revenge on humanity ever since.

>>742487527
Nope. In the good ole US of A.
Sing it with me now!
My country tis of thee!
Sweet land where backwards pieces of shit arent allowed to spew their hate speech!

Oh its a good song...

>>742487419
She told him to do what he said he wanted to do for months. That is not manipulating him or trying to manipulate him. It was his own idea, even back when she was against it.

>>742487377
Alright you're clearly mentally retarded so let's switch the situation. The girl met the dude and told him for 4 months that the only way for her to be happy was to die, she also tries to convince him to commit suicide too. He tries to help her but in the end supports her decision and convinces her to kill herself.

How do you feel about that situation

>>742487782
Land where your fathers died!
If they could see how much of a disappointment you were to your family and society at large they probably would off themselves to save themselves the indignity!

COME ON PEOPLE!

>>742486227

this is a reach anon. and no i don't trust my logic over someone's actual education. the world can't be figured out by one brain alone

>>742487448
nuh-uh. look around you, we're in the midst of a war here. it's not over.

>>742487886
From every mountain side!
Let people like most of the dipshits in here die of dysentery!

>>742487782
Please show me a case anywhere in america where someone was arrested for hate speech. Not bullying a kid or something, but for saying they hate a religion or race or insulting a religion or race and giving reasons why. The KKK is even allowed to hold rallies. You're retarded.